"Baby Killer" given life sentence

[Lenticular_J]

Yeah, that Alyssa story sounded like one of those crappy MySpace things someone makes up as a sob story for pro-abortion. Stupid things like that are probably made for everything, even...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Water bottles.

[urbestfreind]

Yeah, that Alyssa story sounded like one of those crappy MySpace things someone makes up as a sob story for pro-abortion. Stupid things like that are probably made for everything, even...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Water bottles.

 

 

 

With the average IQ of MySpace users, probably (yes, I dissed myspace, get over it).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This story actually had a plot to it, and it was decently developed, but it lacked filler between the crazy claims, which made it seem like a MS story. Plus, it moved from one extreme to another too fast (for example: how did a 4-5 year old figure out how to properly fellate a dog?).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

At least at the end it didn't say "send this story to 10 friends in 5 minutes or a crazy emo clown will come bite your winky off, and another will stab you at 3am on Wednesday.

[deathdrow]

At least at the end it didn't say "send this story to 10 friends in 5 minutes or a crazy emo clown will come bite your winky off, and another will stab you at 3am on Wednesday.

 

 

 

ROFL.

 

 

 

that made me laugh alot.

 

 

 

but it didn't sound very realistic.

[Inuashakent]

Crazy [wagon]... god, people like this make me sick to my stomach.

[deathdrow]

Crazy [wagon]... god, people like this make me sick to my stomach.

 

 

 

worse stuff than this happens all the time.

 

 

 

but it is rather cruel.

[Woodcut Lvr]

Yep it's sick. But it's been going on for centuries, dating back for thousands of years. Thinking of Sparta anyone?

[Riku3220]

Why, why, why is our population filled with idiots like these? ok so he goes to jail big deal, he gets a roof over his head, 3 meals a day, a television, a bed, and all basic needs of life without paying a cent for the rest of his life. What do we accomplish by putting him in jail and using our money to live the rest of his life?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It is people like this that need to be eradicated from this world.

[Kill_Thomas9]

To all the people trying to speak out against abortion with this, it isn't comparable. Aborting a fetus that needs to be inside its mother's womb or else it wouldn't exist isn't equitable to a child who's been in the world for over a year.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Oh yes, a one year old baby is much more able to support it's self than a fetus. :roll:

[assassin_696]

As sickening as it is, the moment you start talking about torture or killing that person you're just descending to their level and seeking retribution. Prison serves it's purpose, he'll never get let out and society will be rid of him. But the second you start legislating official state execution you're overstepping the line.

[llcoolguy972]

 

To all the people trying to speak out against abortion with this, it isn't comparable. Aborting a fetus that needs to be inside its mother's womb or else it wouldn't exist isn't equitable to a child who's been in the world for over a year.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Oh yes, a one year old baby is much more able to support it's self than a fetus. :roll:

 

 

 

I'm not saying that it can support itself. I'm saying that a one year old can breathe and eat and live without 100% support from its mother unlike a fetus who has to completely rely on her for 2/3 of the pregnancy.

[Lenticular_J]

Can one-year-olds even hold their heads up without support? They need their mothers.

[deathdrow]

Can one-year-olds even hold their heads up without support? They need their mothers.

 

 

 

but not as much as an unborn fetus does. i think that's his point.

 

 

 

but 1 year old babies need almost as much support from their mothers.

[RichieMcD]

Another piece of scum off the streets for the next 20 years. The saddening thing is as long as he behaves himself and acts good in jail he will be out in 22 years. The automatic sentence for murder in the UK and Ireland is life, it should really mean life shouldn't it?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The judge also detailed other occasions in the weeks leading up to the murder in December last year when Howson "cruelly and deliberately assaulted Amy", leaving her with multiple fractures to her arms and legs.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anyone find it sickening how social services wouldn't take the child off the parents, multiple fractures is very obvious and often "she fell" story is more than obvious a lie as bones often only break in certain ways after a fall.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think the social services are partly to blame for this, they really should've done more to protect her.

[Guest minime121196]

So what? :thumbdown:

[urbestfreind]

Why, why, why is our population filled with idiots like these? ok so he goes to jail big deal, he gets a roof over his head, 3 meals a day, a television, a bed, and all basic needs of life without paying a cent for the rest of his life. What do we accomplish by putting him in jail and using our money to live the rest of his life?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It is people like this that need to be eradicated from this world.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Enter my previous comment about 35 cent bullets.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As sickening as it is, the moment you start talking about torture or killing that person you're just descending to their level and seeking retribution. Prison serves it's purpose, he'll never get let out and society will be rid of him. But the second you start legislating official state execution you're overstepping the line.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Serving it's purpose? What purpose is that? To waste the taxpayers money to house a killer, giving him 3 meals a day, water, television, recreation time (lift weights, play basketball, etc)? Why spend..what was it, $60,000 a year (or was it 30?), when we could get rid of some 15-20k prisioners, for the cost of one? He killed her, you can't dispute that. So, why are we going to spend 1.3 million keeping him safe and well cared for?

[J a m e s]

I hate to be morbid, but when I hear of things such as this I always wonder what it feels like to be the murderer. As in what's going through their mind before, during, after the murder, and after receiving the sentence. What are they actually feeling? Are they feeling remorse but too ashamed to show it? Are they not sorry at all and simply insane? What motivated him to do this in the first place? :idea:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I agree that us paying for him to live the rest of his life, given three meals a day, with a roof over his head, etc. is flawed but "an eye for an eye" has never been proven to reduce murder/manslaughter rates as far as I know. If you can give definite proof that it does, post it.

[urbestfreind]

I hate to be morbid, but when I hear of things such as this I always wonder what it feels like to be the murderer. As in what's going through their mind before, during, after the murder, and after receiving the sentence. What are they actually feeling? Are they feeling remorse but too ashamed to show it? Are they not sorry at all and simply insane? What motivated him to do this in the first place? :idea:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I agree that us paying for him to live the rest of his life, given three meals a day, with a roof over his head, etc. is flawed but "an eye for an eye" has never been proven to reduce murder/manslaughter rates as far as I know. If you can give definite proof that it does, post it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm pretty much the same way...I was thinking about the sound that it would make when I read the article.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As for your other point, if you kill about 10,000 lifers within a short period of time, execution style, people will think twice about doing stupid [cabbage] like that, especially if we show we're willing to get rid of the rest. Likewise, if you were to get your willy cut off for rape, or your hands cut off for stealing, I bet a lot fewer of those crimes would happen.

[GGunitfan10]

 

I hate to be morbid, but when I hear of things such as this I always wonder what it feels like to be the murderer. As in what's going through their mind before, during, after the murder, and after receiving the sentence. What are they actually feeling? Are they feeling remorse but too ashamed to show it? Are they not sorry at all and simply insane? What motivated him to do this in the first place? :idea:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I agree that us paying for him to live the rest of his life, given three meals a day, with a roof over his head, etc. is flawed but "an eye for an eye" has never been proven to reduce murder/manslaughter rates as far as I know. If you can give definite proof that it does, post it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm pretty much the same way...I was thinking about the sound that it would make when I read the article.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As for your other point, if you kill about 10,000 lifers within a short period of time, execution style, people will think twice about doing stupid [cabbage] like that, especially if we show we're willing to get rid of the rest. Likewise, if you were to get your willy cut off for rape, or your hands cut off for stealing, I bet a lot fewer of those crimes would happen.

 

 

 

I agree, my history teacher told us about some old culture where they cut off the left hand of the theif so EVERYBODY would know they were a theif and if they did it again there goes the other hand. We should do something like that. :thumbsup: And for killing someone... they should have both of their legs cut off. If it was an infant then all 4 limbs. \ No more murders :thumbup:

[Princess Viola]

He should get the death sentence. By being eaten by babies!

[Lenticular_J]

I agree, my history teacher told us about some old culture where they cut off the left hand of the theif so EVERYBODY would know they were a theif and if they did it again there goes the other hand.

 

 

 

That's Islamic law, and it's still in use. Stealing is one of the few crimes where you're allowed to live. Even a mugging will probably have you executed.

[Promise]

Last year a guy put his new born baby in the micro wave. World going nuuuuts.

[assassin_696]

 

As sickening as it is, the moment you start talking about torture or killing that person you're just descending to their level and seeking retribution. Prison serves it's purpose, he'll never get let out and society will be rid of him. But the second you start legislating official state execution you're overstepping the line.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Serving it's purpose? What purpose is that? To waste the taxpayers money to house a killer, giving him 3 meals a day, water, television, recreation time (lift weights, play basketball, etc)? Why spend..what was it, $60,000 a year (or was it 30?), when we could get rid of some 15-20k prisioners, for the cost of one? He killed her, you can't dispute that. So, why are we going to spend 1.3 million keeping him safe and well cared for?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

He's being kept alive in prison, nothing more. He'll be at a maximum security prison and those things aren't holiday camps.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If your justification for actively killing 15000-20000 people is that they're simply taking up too much space then I think your morals are as shaky as some of the people you're trying to kill. Besides, the death penalty isn't cheaper.

[RichieMcD]

 

I agree, my history teacher told us about some old culture where they cut off the left hand of the theif so EVERYBODY would know they were a theif and if they did it again there goes the other hand.

 

 

 

That's Islamic law, and it's still in use. Stealing is one of the few crimes where you're allowed to live. Even a mugging will probably have you executed.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

True but most of those laws are no longer so heavily punishable in most Islamic countries. Only the extremely conservative / Sharia law based countries such as Iran or Saudi Arabia still enforce it.

[ember3579]

He's being kept alive in prison, nothing more. He'll be at a maximum security prison and those things aren't holiday camps.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If your justification for actively killing 15000-20000 people is that they're simply taking up too much space then I think your morals are as shaky as some of the people you're trying to kill. Besides, the death penalty isn't cheaper.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Alright, three things.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

One, the fact that he is still sucking air makes it possible for him to do this again. You ever heard of the term "prison break"?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Two, Urbe's justification is that those who kill others for these random petty bull**** reasons aren't deserving of the air they breathe. To suffer them to live in conditions that are better than a large chunk of the non-criminal population (most of Africa, parts of South America, some of China/India, etc.) is a disgrace to humanity.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Three, that website only takes into account the various methods of killing such as needles. This is not including the Hot Lead Injection method which was talked about. Also, do people really need a couple decades to go through their appeals (if they're on death row) if there's no doubt they have done these atrocities? About 5-10 years should be more than sufficient. After which, last meal, then off to the firing squad. If it's not too grotesque to say it, this might be a good opportunity to test new weapons that military minds come up with. Just as long as there's as little time as possible between the trigger being pulled and him being dead, the "cruel" part of the applicable Amendment doesn't apply.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And besides, isn't it a lot quicker to blow someone's brains out to kill them rather than use some sort of concoction to cause them to fall asleep, then kill them? A lot less chance of something going raw, too.

[urbestfreind]

He's being kept alive in prison, nothing more. He'll be at a maximum security prison and those things aren't holiday camps.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If your justification for actively killing 15000-20000 people is that they're simply taking up too much space then I think your morals are as shaky as some of the people you're trying to kill. Besides, the death penalty isn't cheaper.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So, it's not a vacation to Cancun. Big deal. Why do they need basketball, cable tv, or anything really? We should give them a toilet, a concrete box with a steel door, 2 meals (breakfast and dinner), and a bit of water. They don't need any fun stuff, it's prison, not summer camp.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And your article is for lethal injection and such. Now, go to my choice, which is the second one down (the box of 1000). That works out to 0.19899 per round, or 20 cents. Now, if we have to do 2 rounds to make sure they're gone, that's 40 cents per prisoner. Include backhoe rental for a day or two a week (if the family can't afford a burial), and we have a solution.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And so what if I'm a twisted person? As long as I don't go snapping babies in half, then there's no problem is there?