Grasle: Yer, all dragons but the kbd are female, just examine one :o "mother dragon"

 

 

 

Metal dragons do not have specific genders.

 

 

 

Yet I remember there being eggs in the Iron/Steel lair.

 

 

 

The "mother dragon" you examined was a blue dragon. I know that the examine for black dragons is "A fearsome dragon with jet black scales" or something similar. I can't say for green or red dragons; I've never killed one :oops:

 

 

 

And I really don't know if metal dragons have genders; before the graphics update they looked like robots and I would have said "no they don't", but now that they've been updated, the really do look like regular dragons with metallic scales, so them having genders is not out of the question.

 

 

 

Also; someone pm'd me in RuneScape while I was doing research, someone who couldn't join the forums due to some complications, and they put forth the theory that the invisible gnome city Arposandra may be somehow related to the dragonkin. This is more than just a random suggestion; there is a mention of the invisible city in "My Notes" but I left it out because it didn't seem relevant. The passage is written in some language which is probably gnomish, but the gnome translation manual from Grand Tree is of little help in deciphering it. Here is the passage:

 

 

 

It read 'Laufata ki Glough ki Ta Quir Priw Undo eso, Tolly, gnomo kar is Glough hamo sarko pro Arposandra Qua!' - If only I had studied my languages more diligently.

 

 

 

I'll take a second, more in-depth look at it now, maybe I'll see something I didn't see the first time

While you are thinking of gnomes, consider Hazelmere's dream revealed at the end of the Path or Glourphie.

While you are thinking of gnomes, consider Hazelmere's dream revealed at the end of the Path or Glourphie.

 

 

 

I don't really remember what that was, I just remember Hazelmere saving me from the dungeon. Also, this is how I'm doing on the translation

 

 

 

[hide=Translation progress]Original text:

 

Laufata ki Glough ki Ta Quir Priw Undo eso, Tolly, gnomo kar is Glough hamo sarko pro Arposandra Qua!

 

 

 

Translated Text (words I can't translate X'd out):

 

XXXXXXX XX Glough XX The Grand Tree Land XXX, stupid man, XXXXX no XX Glough XXXX XXXXX to Arposandra Guards[/hide]

While you are thinking of gnomes, consider Hazelmere's dream revealed at the end of the Path or Glourphie.

 

 

 

I don't really remember what that was, I just remember Hazelmere saving me from the dungeon. Also, this is how I'm doing on the translation

 

 

 

[hide=Translation progress]Original text:

 

Laufata ki Glough ki Ta Quir Priw Undo eso, Tolly, gnomo kar is Glough hamo sarko pro Arposandra Qua!

 

 

 

Translated Text (words I can't translate X'd out):

 

XXXXXXX XX Glough XX The Grand Tree Land XXX, stupid man, XXXXX no XX Glough XXXX XXXXX to Arposandra Guards[/hide]

 

 

 

 

 

llol phycho your like one of those die-hard star trek fans who learnt that language :o

While you are thinking of gnomes, consider Hazelmere's dream revealed at the end of the Path or Glourphie.

 

 

 

I don't really remember what that was, I just remember Hazelmere saving me from the dungeon. Also, this is how I'm doing on the translation

 

 

 

[hide=Translation progress]Original text:

 

Laufata ki Glough ki Ta Quir Priw Undo eso, Tolly, gnomo kar is Glough hamo sarko pro Arposandra Qua!

 

 

 

Translated Text (words I can't translate X'd out):

 

XXXXXXX XX Glough XX The Grand Tree Land XXX, stupid man, XXXXX no XX Glough XXXX XXXXX to Arposandra Guards[/hide]

 

 

 

 

 

llol phycho your like one of those die-hard star trek fans who learnt that language :o

 

 

 

Nah, I used the translation manual given in the Grand Tree quest. Its like a Gnome-to-English dictionary

during the a souls bane ques tolna says there was a great evil that benefitted from his suffering, he also reffered to an ancient civilization that did not wish to reveal itself to the world yet.

 

Any revelance?

If that's true it'd be very interesting; I'll take a look into that tomorrow afternoon and see if it leads anywhere!

I would just like to say that I finally finished reading all of this material and I am highly pleased by the research conducted on the subject matter. I give you my high regards for your effort put into this. If new information comes in, be sure to let us all know. :)

While you are thinking of gnomes, consider Hazelmere's dream revealed at the end of the Path or Glourphie.

 

 

 

I don't really remember what that was, I just remember Hazelmere saving me from the dungeon. Also, this is how I'm doing on the translation

 

 

 

[hide=Translation progress]Original text:

 

Laufata ki Glough ki Ta Quir Priw Undo eso, Tolly, gnomo kar is Glough hamo sarko pro Arposandra Qua!

 

 

 

Translated Text (words I can't translate X'd out):

 

XXXXXXX XX Glough XX The Grand Tree Land XXX, stupid man, XXXXX no XX Glough XXXX XXXXX to Arposandra Guards[/hide]

 

 

 

I just *had to* register an account to applaud you on this awesome work. I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one taking an interest in the history of Gielinor.

 

I managed to copy down following conversation during the end of the quest. Perhaps it will prove useful to you:

 

 

 

Hazelmere: "It is even more important now that you understand your future. There will be a time of great change and you will do a great good during the time. At times your task will appear impossible, and it will seem as if the power of Guthix, which you will seek with mighty intent, will slip away even after you prevailed so hard, but don't give up hope."

 

 

 

You: "You: "But that's about as clear as mud!"

 

 

 

Hazelmere: "Stop joking around and listen carefully. This is important. Skilled brothers, numbering eight, will assemble to fight the mahjarrat deceiver, and they will be heading north to confront him. The time after this is... clouded to me, but I see you clearly, dressed in the evil robes of night, lightly decorated with ochre like burnished gold and the rust colours of autumn leaves. Though the robes represent an order of evil, you will not follow that path. You will remain true to Guthix. Of the eight, only two shall return; one represents the path of Slayer and one the path of the warrior. This might have been different, but I have made my choice, and it is up to you to prove that I made the right one."

 

 

 

You have already touched upon how the Dragonkin and Mahjarrat seem to intermingle, perhaps Hazelmere's prophezy can shed some further light on that topic.

Awesome post Psycho =D>

 

 

 

Not long until the truth is revealed.

 

 

 

....The Kin, and they will show no mercy..... *shivers*

Skilled brothers, numbering eight, will assemble to fight the mahjarrat deceiver, and they will be heading north to confront him. The time after this is... clouded to me, but I see you clearly, dressed in the evil robes of night, lightly decorated with ochre like burnished gold and the rust colours of autumn leaves. Though the robes represent an order of evil, you will not follow that path. You will remain true to Guthix.

 

 

 

just putting in my (probably) useless two cents, but that sounds like the 2nd part of demon slayer (forgot the name).

 

the clothing is different though... cookies for the one who finds an order dressed in black/gold/autumn brown robes!

My first post on the forums contains a theory i have been thinking about for a while.

 

 

 

Since the quest is about the Staff of Armadyl, Lucien, the Dragonkin and possibl the Stone of Jaz, these things have to be connected in some way.

 

What if the Dragonkin are extinct or trapped somewhere.And someone (like Lucien) is trying to ressurect/free them.

 

Out of the Dragonkin symbol (or what we think it is) the Stone of Jaz is somehow linked to the Dragonkin. It could be the key to bring them back.

 

As for the Staff, I'm not really shure. Although it might give some kind of a spark wich will start the whole proces.

 

 

 

Great thread btw, looking forward to the quest release

Skilled brothers, numbering eight, will assemble to fight the mahjarrat deceiver, and they will be heading north to confront him. The time after this is... clouded to me, but I see you clearly, dressed in the evil robes of night, lightly decorated with ochre like burnished gold and the rust colours of autumn leaves. Though the robes represent an order of evil, you will not follow that path. You will remain true to Guthix.

 

 

 

just putting in my (probably) useless two cents, but that sounds like the 2nd part of demon slayer (forgot the name).

 

the clothing is different though... cookies for the one who finds an order dressed in black/gold/autumn brown robes!

 

 

 

Those are the colors of Armadyl

 

 

 

during the a souls bane ques tolna says there was a great evil that benefitted from his suffering, he also reffered to an ancient civilization that did not wish to reveal itself to the world yet.

 

Any revelance?

 

I've documented Tolna's story about what he found in the rift:

 

 

I managed to find the remnants of the ancient civilization that the stories talk about. It seems people used to worship a god here years ago in numbers far greater than a simple cult following. Sadly there is little remaining so I have nothing else to tell. As soon as I entered the area the ground swallowed me whole. I felt there was something watching, waiting. Its like there is some evil power under the ground that wanted me to suffer. As if it got some sort of empowerment from it. At least whatever it is, it doesnt want to reveal itself to the world yet

 

 

I think it has something to do with Zaros rather than the Dragonkin, as he's talking about worshipping a god, and the Digsite (which is a former Zarosian temple complex) lies just to the south. The whole Varrock area including the rift was once part of the city of Senntisten, which contained the temple. One thing that does interest me is this one sentence: Its like there is some evil power under the ground that wanted me to suffer. As if it got some sort of empowerment from it. This does sound a bit like the powerlink between the Dragonkin and their Dragon weapons. The Kin (supposedly) receive power whenever the weapons are used in combat, and this fellow gets power from suffering (which also happens when you use weapons, right?). Anyway, nice suggestion, I'll have to think about this one...

Skilled brothers, numbering eight, will assemble to fight the mahjarrat deceiver, and they will be heading north to confront him. The time after this is... clouded to me, but I see you clearly, dressed in the evil robes of night, lightly decorated with ochre like burnished gold and the rust colours of autumn leaves. Though the robes represent an order of evil, you will not follow that path. You will remain true to Guthix.

 

 

 

just putting in my (probably) useless two cents, but that sounds like the 2nd part of demon slayer (forgot the name).

 

the clothing is different though... cookies for the one who finds an order dressed in black/gold/autumn brown robes!

 

 

 

Those are the colors of Armadyl

 

 

 

 

*cough*Order of evil?*cough*

 

 

 

Try the Mourners

All i have to say is WOW on this thread, i knew there was connections but it seems like everything's leading up to a giant macho good vs evil showdown. Can't Wait :)

Skilled brothers, numbering eight, will assemble to fight the mahjarrat deceiver, and they will be heading north to confront him. The time after this is... clouded to me, but I see you clearly, dressed in the evil robes of night, lightly decorated with ochre like burnished gold and the rust colours of autumn leaves. Though the robes represent an order of evil, you will not follow that path. You will remain true to Guthix.

 

 

 

just putting in my (probably) useless two cents, but that sounds like the 2nd part of demon slayer (forgot the name).

 

the clothing is different though... cookies for the one who finds an order dressed in black/gold/autumn brown robes!

 

 

 

Those are the colors of Armadyl

 

 

 

 

*cough*Order of evil?*cough*

 

 

 

Try the Mourners

 

 

 

Oh yea! Duh... #-o

Speaking of Tolna, the rift, Zaros, Mahjarrat, Dragonkin, etc.

 

 

 

Do any of you remember following Tip.It times? Do you know if it was completely fictive by the Editor, or did he receive it from Jagex? Quoting it here for your convenience. The link will be at the bottom of the post.

 

 

 

I awoke this week to find several of you had found an entrance to my Digsite rift, looking for this lost child Tolna. Little did you know this child was not lost. He came upon me, a god whose name would make you bleed pure concentrated drops of terror if you even muttered it aloud, over 25 years ago.

 

 

 

Astonished, bewildered, and amazed would describe Tolna's initial reaction to discovering me. Never before was such power found in the world of RuneScape. These gods Saradomin, Zamorak, and Guthix are no match for what Tolna had discovered. Even Zaros knows better than to cross me, even when your gods feared him.

 

 

 

Tired of living the life of the simpleton Varrockian, Tolna made his living in my hidden underground cave. He studied my teachings in hopes of having power that no other mortal could ever fathom to embrace. In time, studying was not enough for Tolna. He needed more and more knowledge. He needed the power that only I could give him.

 

 

 

Tolna started luring animals into my cave, in attempts to practice what he had learned on his own. He knew if he wanted to truly be my follower, he would have to show his worth and dedication. He practiced spells on them extensively, until finally he was able to turn these creatures into their Angry forms.

 

 

 

Only in anger can one master his full potential. These animals were now gods among their kind. Filled with my power, they would be capable of wreaking havoc upon the lands of RuneScape, if it were my will. Luckily for all those in Misthalin, I have had no desire to do so. For if it was my will, I could wipe out every creature living there in just the blink of an eye.

 

 

 

Tolna, having showed his worth, was granted direct lessons from me. When I demonstrated my power to him, he thirsted for whatever I was willing to pass on to him. I taught him how to smith weapons to control the Angry animals, not only so that he could be my right hand man, but also so that he could offer his sacrifices to me. Even the greatest smiths in all of RuneScape could never dream of conjuring a weapon this powerful. The hits you think you accomplished in Tolna's illusion don't even compare to what you would hit if you could truly possess my might.

 

 

 

Tolna grew strong over the years, perhaps even more powerful than those who you mortals call gods. His thirst for power could not be quenched. He delved deeper and deeper into worshipping me, and possessing my power. Finally his feeble mortal mind snapped. Perhaps his former teachings of Saradomin caused so much internal turmoil that the contradiction was too strong to handle, or perhaps a mortal such as he was not yet ready to handle the power I have to offer.

 

 

 

Tolna's shattered mind pushed my teachings out of memory. My power fled his body in such a rush that it ripped a hole through the ground. His altered mind, still battling the power he now held, created illusions so illustrative that they even impressed me. Adventurers, such as yourself, spent hours attempting to find Tolna in my lair, while the whole time he was only feet in front of you, in plain sight. If only you could have seen yourself from my eyes.

 

 

 

You may have freed Tolna from my lair, but little do you know what you have brought upon RuneScape. Thousands of adventurers have now found me. Soon your old followers of Zamorak will cling to me, seeking the power that he could only dream to give his followers power that I can give them. If you thought Ancient Majicks were powerful you just wait. Soon, you will either learn my power, or learn of my power, and your life will never be the same again.

 

 

 

http://www.tip.it/runescape/index.php?times=35

 

 

 

EDIT: If we assume that the Dragonkin are from pre-gods wandering Gielinor, despite conflicting evidence for both claims, could it be that the Dragonkin also has a god?

Skilled brothers, numbering eight, will assemble to fight the mahjarrat deceiver, and they will be heading north to confront him. The time after this is... clouded to me, but I see you clearly, dressed in the evil robes of night, lightly decorated with ochre like burnished gold and the rust colours of autumn leaves. Though the robes represent an order of evil, you will not follow that path. You will remain true to Guthix.

 

 

 

just putting in my (probably) useless two cents, but that sounds like the 2nd part of demon slayer (forgot the name).

 

the clothing is different though... cookies for the one who finds an order dressed in black/gold/autumn brown robes!

 

 

 

Those are the colors of Armadyl

 

 

 

 

*cough*Order of evil?*cough*

 

 

 

Try the Mourners

 

 

 

Oh yea! Duh... #-o

 

I've never done MEPII, but I believe the Mourners are trying to open a portal so that a 'Dark Lord' can return to Runescape. If this is Zamorak (which I believe he is) he could be called the Mahjarrat deciever, as he decieved Zaros. So you and seven other guys dress up as Mourners and fight a freshly summoned Zamorak... :shock:

 

 

 

[hide=Fenris]

Speaking of Tolna, the rift, Zaros, Mahjarrat, Dragonkin, etc.

 

 

 

Do any of you remember following Tip.It times? Do you know if it was completely fictive by the Editor, or did he receive it from Jagex? Quoting it here for your convenience. The link will be at the bottom of the post.

 

 

 

I awoke this week to find several of you had found an entrance to my Digsite rift, looking for this lost child Tolna. Little did you know this child was not lost. He came upon me, a god whose name would make you bleed pure concentrated drops of terror if you even muttered it aloud, over 25 years ago.

 

 

 

Astonished, bewildered, and amazed would describe Tolna's initial reaction to discovering me. Never before was such power found in the world of RuneScape. These gods Saradomin, Zamorak, and Guthix are no match for what Tolna had discovered. Even Zaros knows better than to cross me, even when your gods feared him.

 

 

 

Tired of living the life of the simpleton Varrockian, Tolna made his living in my hidden underground cave. He studied my teachings in hopes of having power that no other mortal could ever fathom to embrace. In time, studying was not enough for Tolna. He needed more and more knowledge. He needed the power that only I could give him.

 

 

 

Tolna started luring animals into my cave, in attempts to practice what he had learned on his own. He knew if he wanted to truly be my follower, he would have to show his worth and dedication. He practiced spells on them extensively, until finally he was able to turn these creatures into their Angry forms.

 

 

 

Only in anger can one master his full potential. These animals were now gods among their kind. Filled with my power, they would be capable of wreaking havoc upon the lands of RuneScape, if it were my will. Luckily for all those in Misthalin, I have had no desire to do so. For if it was my will, I could wipe out every creature living there in just the blink of an eye.

 

 

 

Tolna, having showed his worth, was granted direct lessons from me. When I demonstrated my power to him, he thirsted for whatever I was willing to pass on to him. I taught him how to smith weapons to control the Angry animals, not only so that he could be my right hand man, but also so that he could offer his sacrifices to me. Even the greatest smiths in all of RuneScape could never dream of conjuring a weapon this powerful. The hits you think you accomplished in Tolna's illusion don't even compare to what you would hit if you could truly possess my might.

 

 

 

Tolna grew strong over the years, perhaps even more powerful than those who you mortals call gods. His thirst for power could not be quenched. He delved deeper and deeper into worshipping me, and possessing my power. Finally his feeble mortal mind snapped. Perhaps his former teachings of Saradomin caused so much internal turmoil that the contradiction was too strong to handle, or perhaps a mortal such as he was not yet ready to handle the power I have to offer.

 

 

 

Tolna's shattered mind pushed my teachings out of memory. My power fled his body in such a rush that it ripped a hole through the ground. His altered mind, still battling the power he now held, created illusions so illustrative that they even impressed me. Adventurers, such as yourself, spent hours attempting to find Tolna in my lair, while the whole time he was only feet in front of you, in plain sight. If only you could have seen yourself from my eyes.

 

 

 

You may have freed Tolna from my lair, but little do you know what you have brought upon RuneScape. Thousands of adventurers have now found me. Soon your old followers of Zamorak will cling to me, seeking the power that he could only dream to give his followers power that I can give them. If you thought Ancient Majicks were powerful you just wait. Soon, you will either learn my power, or learn of my power, and your life will never be the same again.

 

 

 

http://www.tip.it/runescape/index.php?times=35

 

 

 

EDIT: If we assume that the Dragonkin are from pre-gods wandering Gielinor, despite conflicting evidence for both claims, could it be that the Dragonkin also has a god?

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Good find, but as you said, we first need to make sure if this is even true, and not made up by a Tipiter.

Having scoured and searched through my brain I seem to have a vague recollection of Dragon Riders serving as a sort of guard for Zaros and Zamorak.

 

The interesting part is that in the case of the dragon rider intell it was mentioned that the dragons were descendants of wyrms (not dragonkin).

 

 

 

If I remember correctly this information came from a being of the spirit realm. Thus, there are a number of NPCs from the Ghostly Robes hunt you can talk to about it. There are also NPCs from the hunt for the Shadow Sword. Last, but not least, there's a ghost from the God Wars in the temple south of the graveyard, which is east of Bounty Hunter. My guess is that it was the latter that mentioned the dragonriders.

 

 

 

Again, I can't be 100% certain, but I believe I encountered the terms "Dragon Rider" and "Wyrm" at some point or another. If just I could remember the source.

Having scoured and searched through my brain I seem to have a vague recollection of Dragon Riders serving as a sort of guard for Zaros and Zamorak.

 

The interesting part is that in the case of the dragon rider intell it was mentioned that the dragons were descendants of wyrms (not dragonkin).

 

 

 

If I remember correctly this information came from a being of the spirit realm. Thus, there are a number of NPCs from the Ghostly Robes hunt you can talk to about it. There are also NPCs from the hunt for the Shadow Sword. Last, but not least, there's a ghost from the God Wars in the temple south of the graveyard, which is east of Bounty Hunter. My guess is that it was the latter that mentioned the dragonriders.

 

 

 

Again, I can't be 100% certain, but I believe I encountered the terms "Dragon Rider" and "Wyrm" at some point or another. If just I could remember the source.

 

 

 

Yes there was Wyrms, they were most likely the direct spawn of the Dragonkin. However overuse of them during wars and climate changes brought them to the brink of extinction, over time the remainder of them evolved into the current dragons of today.

 

 

 

Urghh, did I bring this up in a topic before or did I forget to mention it? :lol: The one flaw with the Wyrms is that they were apparently used in the God Wars which shouldn't really be possible since White Dragons existed at that time, unless White Dragons were infact Wyrms, which may also explain why 3rd age range armour doesn't look like other dragonhide equipment.

 

 

 

 

I've never done MEPII, but I believe the Mourners are trying to open a portal so that a 'Dark Lord' can return to Runescape. If this is Zamorak (which I believe he is) he could be called the Mahjarrat deciever, as he decieved Zaros. So you and seven other guys dress up as Mourners and fight a freshly summoned Zamorak... :shock:

 

 

 

 

I've started thinking a lot more about this. According to some undefined rules Gods are not allowed to have a direct influence on Runescape so that always made me think that it was impossible for the Dark Lord to be Zamorak.

 

 

 

With deeper thought however I'm starting to think he may appear, let's make Lucien the Mahjarrat Deceiver for once, I mean he is a bit shifty anyway. Although there's no link here, he could possibly be the person behind the plan of reviving Zamorak.

 

 

 

Why?

 

 

 

Well if he has the Staff of Armadyl, and possibly the stone of Jas (or atleast something that amplifies his power) he may be trying to bring Zamorak to this plane so that he can take his godhood. Just something else to throw onto the plate!

The elder dragon ideas are interesting...Maybe the dragonkin (elder dragons) fought humans because we were invading their land? Guthix brough humans to Gleinor (spel) so that would explain the theoretical conflict between dragonkin and Guthix.

 

 

 

Elder dragons....Elder Gods... Remember the Elder gods who created runescape? From the "Meeting History" quest? Maybe the dragonkin got the stone of Jas from the Elder Gods. Also, the stone of jas might be tied to stealing creation, the clay of the (Elder?) Gods...

 

 

 

I highly doubt the elder dragons can be anything but the dragonkin.

 

 

 

I think the elder dragons and the dragonkin are the same thing too, but what if the elder gods and the elder dragons are the same thing? They sound similar and we believe the dragonkin once had control of the stone of jas, with the stone of jas I'm sure they'd have enough power to create the world as we know it, or at least change it so drastically that it looked like it had been recreated. But if the elder gods and the dragonkin are the same, how come Robert the Strong managed to kill one? Surely they'd have been immensely powerful? Maybe that particular one was weakened or maybe Robert the Strong was the incarnation of Zaros and that's how he got his power?

 

You have some good points there, but one thing just came into my mind: Guthix doesn't allow any God to be on Runescape, they all have to stay in the God Realm (maybe they can move between realms, but just not Gielenor). So if Bob the cat is Zaros, then why hasn't Guthix come yet to blow him to pieces? Furthermore, Zaros was imprisoned in another dimension when he 'died', so what is he doing walking around on Gielenor?

 

Guthix doesn't allow them to come to Gielinor because of their powers which could cause destruction. But what powers does Bob(Zaros) have now? Sphinx said he has some mark of power but nonetheless all he can do is to walk around. I support the Bob=Zaros theory, tho it has a flaw: how does it then happen that Bob is in love with Neite and has children with Fluffs? Only gods known to be married are the desert Gods, and they're married in their "family"...

Having scoured and searched through my brain I seem to have a vague recollection of Dragon Riders serving as a sort of guard for Zaros and Zamorak.

 

The interesting part is that in the case of the dragon rider intell it was mentioned that the dragons were descendants of wyrms (not dragonkin).

 

 

 

If I remember correctly this information came from a being of the spirit realm. Thus, there are a number of NPCs from the Ghostly Robes hunt you can talk to about it. There are also NPCs from the hunt for the Shadow Sword. Last, but not least, there's a ghost from the God Wars in the temple south of the graveyard, which is east of Bounty Hunter. My guess is that it was the latter that mentioned the dragonriders.

 

 

 

Again, I can't be 100% certain, but I believe I encountered the terms "Dragon Rider" and "Wyrm" at some point or another. If just I could remember the source.

 

 

 

Yes there was Wyrms, they were most likely the direct spawn of the Dragonkin. However overuse of them during wars and climate changes brought them to the brink of extinction, over time the remainder of them evolved into the current dragons of today.

 

 

 

Urghh, did I bring this up in a topic before or did I forget to mention it? :lol: The one flaw with the Wyrms is that they were apparently used in the God Wars which shouldn't really be possible since White Dragons existed at that time, unless White Dragons were infact Wyrms, which may also explain why 3rd age range armour doesn't look like other dragonhide equipment.

 

 

 

How do you know 3rd age range is made of dragonhide? Not all range armour is dragonhide; there's snakeskin and whatever barrows is as well.

 

 

 

EDIT: Lol nevermind, I just looked at the examine info for 3rd age range :P

Having scoured and searched through my brain I seem to have a vague recollection of Dragon Riders serving as a sort of guard for Zaros and Zamorak.

 

The interesting part is that in the case of the dragon rider intell it was mentioned that the dragons were descendants of wyrms (not dragonkin).

 

 

 

If I remember correctly this information came from a being of the spirit realm. Thus, there are a number of NPCs from the Ghostly Robes hunt you can talk to about it. There are also NPCs from the hunt for the Shadow Sword. Last, but not least, there's a ghost from the God Wars in the temple south of the graveyard, which is east of Bounty Hunter. My guess is that it was the latter that mentioned the dragonriders.

 

 

 

Again, I can't be 100% certain, but I believe I encountered the terms "Dragon Rider" and "Wyrm" at some point or another. If just I could remember the source.

 

 

 

Yes there was Wyrms, they were most likely the direct spawn of the Dragonkin. However overuse of them during wars and climate changes brought them to the brink of extinction, over time the remainder of them evolved into the current dragons of today.

 

 

 

Urghh, did I bring this up in a topic before or did I forget to mention it? :lol: The one flaw with the Wyrms is that they were apparently used in the God Wars which shouldn't really be possible since White Dragons existed at that time, unless White Dragons were infact Wyrms, which may also explain why 3rd age range armour doesn't look like other dragonhide equipment.

 

 

 

How do you know 3rd age range is made of dragonhide? Not all range armour is dragonhide; there's snakeskin and whatever barrows is as well.

 

 

 

Because the examine say's it's crafted from White Dragonhide. :)

 

 

 

"Fabulously ancient range protection crafted from white dragonhide."

Having scoured and searched through my brain I seem to have a vague recollection of Dragon Riders serving as a sort of guard for Zaros and Zamorak.

 

The interesting part is that in the case of the dragon rider intell it was mentioned that the dragons were descendants of wyrms (not dragonkin).

 

 

 

If I remember correctly this information came from a being of the spirit realm. Thus, there are a number of NPCs from the Ghostly Robes hunt you can talk to about it. There are also NPCs from the hunt for the Shadow Sword. Last, but not least, there's a ghost from the God Wars in the temple south of the graveyard, which is east of Bounty Hunter. My guess is that it was the latter that mentioned the dragonriders.

 

 

 

Again, I can't be 100% certain, but I believe I encountered the terms "Dragon Rider" and "Wyrm" at some point or another. If just I could remember the source.

 

 

 

Yes there was Wyrms, they were most likely the direct spawn of the Dragonkin. However overuse of them during wars and climate changes brought them to the brink of extinction, over time the remainder of them evolved into the current dragons of today.

 

 

 

Urghh, did I bring this up in a topic before or did I forget to mention it? :lol: The one flaw with the Wyrms is that they were apparently used in the God Wars which shouldn't really be possible since White Dragons existed at that time, unless White Dragons were infact Wyrms, which may also explain why 3rd age range armour doesn't look like other dragonhide equipment.

 

 

 

How do you know 3rd age range is made of dragonhide? Not all range armour is dragonhide; there's snakeskin and whatever barrows is as well.

 

 

 

Because the examine say's it's crafted from White Dragonhide. :)

 

 

 

"Fabulously ancient range protection crafted from white dragonhide."

 

 

 

Where are Wyrms mentioned? I know there's a summoning familiar Desert Wyrm, also I haven't seen a desert wyrm, nor do I know its examine, but it seems unlikely that it would be related to dragonkin. A search of the knowledge base yields no results save for the familiar. Where is this knowledge of wyrms coming from? Is it speculation? Is it mentioned in a book somewhere?

 

 

 

Also, let me take this opportunity to discuss the grandmaster quest which, if we are to believe the November Behind the Scenes, will be coming out very soon: Do NOT reveal details about this quest until the first Monday AFTER it is released. This will allow people who aren't able to play RuneScape during the week to have the weekend to do the quest. If you feel a dying urge to talk about something related to the quest, put it in a hide tag. If you don't know how to use them, here is the code

 

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You can do almost anything inside a hide tag, including quotes, images, and formatting.

 

 

 

You can discuss the quest as long as it is hidden, but know that I will not read it until I have finished the quest myself OR until the first Monday comes around, nor will it be added to the main post, not even in hide tags.