Salad Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 3) Why are Dagon'hai robes more useful than Ahrim for tanking? I apologize, I'm unfamiliar with the stats of Dagon'hai. No mage armour except for Void has range defence so it's all about accuracy but idk why it's better then Ahrim. He said Dagon'Hai, not void :-$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death123141 Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 3) Why are Dagon'hai robes more useful than Ahrim for tanking? I apologize, I'm unfamiliar with the stats of Dagon'hai. No mage armour except for Void has range defence so it's all about accuracy but idk why it's better then Ahrim. He said Dagon'Hai, not void :-$ Yes and I was saying that Void is the only armour with range def and mage offense Ahrims>Dagon'hai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pianist4 Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 :thumbup: 'cause you made me consider maging Aviansie. It may be confusing to put everything you should correct in paragraph form so I'll just list it. -Needs better organization. Everything that's crucial to the guide should be left unhidden. -Don't use blue font; it's annoying to read. -Provide inventory pictures. -Fix all the typos: were should be where, you need 55 slayer for the Slayer Staff. -Come up with a better banner. -Make sure your pictures are saved in .png format. -Try to refine the method so you don't need range gear or, explain the need better. -Cut to the point with your writing. It's all about the information. When you do all of this you'll be on your way to the AOW! :twss: [img]http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc124/pianist4/sig.jpg[/img] [img]http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc124/pianist4/GrilledCat1.png[/img] [img]http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc124/pianist4/siggygangsterpiano.jpg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProZac_Rehab Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 Nice guide, although i probably won't mage them that fast. Something I'm wondering. isn't slayer dart effective no matter what magic attack bonus is? Whenever i used to dart at barrows player came up to me and said i should have tanking armour, bc i would hit high even with low mage bonus. Or is that just bc barrows bro's are pure tanks? Secondly, I would like to point out that on your prayer method, you're looking at it from a very self-centered view. The spots you're suggesting are often crowded in most worlds, and deciding to do half-kills will only get alot of frustration from other players. It may be cheaper, but in terms of fair play i wouldn't suggest it. that's your choice though. Also half killing at the Red-Xspot is only to your own disadvantage, because the pyrefiends and icefiends are almost the only ones there to finish the aviansies you started killing, and they kill slow, lol. you'll have faster respawns if you just kill them completely, so more kills/hour and more xp/hour. RIP my main Xprozaccx. Still Dreaming of Farming CapeConfucius say: "Crowded elevator smell different to a midget" xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeDaStudd Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 Thats a slayer dart myth it is affected by magic bonus, but most people only use it on low magic defense monsters like barrows, Rex and so on. [hide=Drops]Dragon Axe x11Berserker Ring x9Warrior Ring x8SeercullDragon MedDragon Boots x4 - all less then 30 kcGodsword Shard (bandos)Granite Maul x 3Solo only - doesn't include barrows[/hide][hide=Stats][/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X Battousai Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 [hide=+10 Prayer Bonus]With a Prayer Bonus of +10 each Prayer point is going to last you 4 seconds. Drinking one dose of Prayer Potion will restore you prayer with atleast 18 points making your Prayer last an extra 72 seconds at the very least. That means every Prayer Potion will give you a minimum of 288 extra seconds (4minutes and 45 seconds) of Prayer[/hide] [hide=+20 Prayer Bonus]With a Prayer Bonus of +20 each Prayer point is going to last you 5 seconds. Drinking one dose of Prayer Potion will restore you prayer with atleast 18 points making your Prayer last an extra 72 seconds at the very least. That means every Prayer Potion will give you a minimum of 288 extra seconds (4minutes and 45 seconds) of Prayer[/hide] [hide=+30 Prayer Bonus]With a Prayer Bonus of +30 each Prayer point is going to last you 7.5 seconds. Drinking one dose of Prayer Potion will restore you prayer with atleast 18 points making your Prayer last an extra 72 seconds at the very least. That means every Prayer Potion will give you a minimum of 288 extra seconds (4minutes and 45 seconds) of Prayer[/hide] [hide=+40 Prayer Bonus]With a Prayer Bonus of +40 each Prayer point is going to last you 8.5 seconds. Drinking one dose of Prayer Potion will restore you prayer with atleast 18 points making your Prayer last an extra 72 seconds at the very least. That means every Prayer Potion will give you a minimum of 288 extra seconds (4minutes and 45 seconds) of Prayer[/hide] How do all prayer bonuses get an extra 288 seconds of prayer? Especially when you said at +10 you get 4 seconds per point, and 8.5 seconds at +40. Also, some people get less than 18 points per dose of prayer potion (then again, at 40 prayer, you may get around that much, it was so long ago) so yeah, 4*18=72 seconds of prayer per prayer potion dose with +10 5*18=90 seconds at +20 per dose 7.5*18= 135 seconds at +30 per dose 8.5*18= 153 seconds at +40 per dose what you did, you just basically copied the +10 section into the others and chanced the time prayer lasts at +20/30/40. You mgiht also want to say what it lasts at 40 prayer, 52 and 70 prayer (protect form missiles level, Smite lvl for pkers and piety level for mains) Its only 3 levels, shouldn't take to long, and they are common levels people get good guide, but there is very little need to use magic at avianses, but if you want to use mage and not lose a ton, this is a pretty good way (fire striking/bolt blue or green dragons is probably another, although had to do with their huge magic defense) still, 10/10 for originality =D> . We need more guides like this (and not pointless avianse ones) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorgoroth Posted August 21, 2009 Author Share Posted August 21, 2009 Nice guide, although i probably won't mage them that fast. Something I'm wondering. isn't slayer dart effective no matter what magic attack bonus is? Whenever i used to dart at barrows player came up to me and said i should have tanking armour, bc i would hit high even with low mage bonus. Or is that just bc barrows bro's are pure tanks? Secondly, I would like to point out that on your prayer method, you're looking at it from a very self-centered view. The spots you're suggesting are often crowded in most worlds, and deciding to do half-kills will only get alot of frustration from other players. It may be cheaper, but in terms of fair play i wouldn't suggest it. that's your choice though. Also half killing at the Red-Xspot is only to your own disadvantage, because the pyrefiends and icefiends are almost the only ones there to finish the aviansies you started killing, and they kill slow, lol. you'll have faster respawns if you just kill them completely, so more kills/hour and more xp/hour. Pyrefiends, Icefiens, Gorak's and Goblins will help you kill them a great deal faster. And i have no idea about the Slayer dart and tank gear.[hide=+10 Prayer Bonus]With a Prayer Bonus of +10 each Prayer point is going to last you 4 seconds. Drinking one dose of Prayer Potion will restore you prayer with atleast 18 points making your Prayer last an extra 72 seconds at the very least. That means every Prayer Potion will give you a minimum of 288 extra seconds (4minutes and 45 seconds) of Prayer[/hide] [hide=+20 Prayer Bonus]With a Prayer Bonus of +20 each Prayer point is going to last you 5 seconds. Drinking one dose of Prayer Potion will restore you prayer with atleast 18 points making your Prayer last an extra 72 seconds at the very least. That means every Prayer Potion will give you a minimum of 288 extra seconds (4minutes and 45 seconds) of Prayer[/hide] [hide=+30 Prayer Bonus]With a Prayer Bonus of +30 each Prayer point is going to last you 7.5 seconds. Drinking one dose of Prayer Potion will restore you prayer with atleast 18 points making your Prayer last an extra 72 seconds at the very least. That means every Prayer Potion will give you a minimum of 288 extra seconds (4minutes and 45 seconds) of Prayer[/hide] [hide=+40 Prayer Bonus]With a Prayer Bonus of +40 each Prayer point is going to last you 8.5 seconds. Drinking one dose of Prayer Potion will restore you prayer with atleast 18 points making your Prayer last an extra 72 seconds at the very least. That means every Prayer Potion will give you a minimum of 288 extra seconds (4minutes and 45 seconds) of Prayer[/hide] How do all prayer bonuses get an extra 288 seconds of prayer? Especially when you said at +10 you get 4 seconds per point, and 8.5 seconds at +40. Also, some people get less than 18 points per dose of prayer potion (then again, at 40 prayer, you may get around that much, it was so long ago) so yeah, 4*18=72 seconds of prayer per prayer potion dose with +10 5*18=90 seconds at +20 per dose 7.5*18= 135 seconds at +30 per dose 8.5*18= 153 seconds at +40 per dose what you did, you just basically copied the +10 section into the others and chanced the time prayer lasts at +20/30/40. You mgiht also want to say what it lasts at 40 prayer, 52 and 70 prayer (protect form missiles level, Smite lvl for pkers and piety level for mains) Its only 3 levels, shouldn't take to long, and they are common levels people get good guide, but there is very little need to use magic at avianses, but if you want to use mage and not lose a ton, this is a pretty good way (fire striking/bolt blue or green dragons is probably another, although had to do with their huge magic defense) still, 10/10 for originality =D> . We need more guides like this (and not pointless avianse ones) A few glitches when working out the prayer it seems. Ill get to work on that when i find the time. thanx for mentioning that :) **Thanks to Boo_Boy666 for my amazing Singnature**[hide=Slaytanicc's Achievments]|99Cooking achieved 24Dec 2008|99Strength achieved 17Feb 2009|99Hit Points achieved 8April 2009||99Defense achieved 29May 2009|99Attack achieved 2August 2009|99Ranged achieved 14August 2009|[/hide][hide=Guides by Slaytanicc]Aviansie Maging + Ranging Guide (Must Read!!)Iron Mining + Banking GuideGreen Dragons GuideAnkou Slaying Guide[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirk4slayer Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 What about casting Claws of Guthix on them with Void Mace? Chuck Norris doesn't ever need a compass; he randomly points somewhere and north goes there in order not to anger him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorgoroth Posted September 14, 2009 Author Share Posted September 14, 2009 What about casting Claws of Guthix on them with Void Mace? Damn, never actually thought about this. I will have this tested within the next month. Thanx for the suggestion :D **Thanks to Boo_Boy666 for my amazing Singnature**[hide=Slaytanicc's Achievments]|99Cooking achieved 24Dec 2008|99Strength achieved 17Feb 2009|99Hit Points achieved 8April 2009||99Defense achieved 29May 2009|99Attack achieved 2August 2009|99Ranged achieved 14August 2009|[/hide][hide=Guides by Slaytanicc]Aviansie Maging + Ranging Guide (Must Read!!)Iron Mining + Banking GuideGreen Dragons GuideAnkou Slaying Guide[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P4duke Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 I don't get it, why earth spells with lava staff instead of fire spells? Fire spells high higher, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorgoroth Posted September 14, 2009 Author Share Posted September 14, 2009 I don't get it, why earth spells with lava staff instead of fire spells? Fire spells high higher, right? I'm confused about this mysefl. I did alot of testing and i found that for some reason Earth Spells are more accurate against Aviansies than Fire Spells. I manage to hit 16's+ alot with Earth Wave ad with Fire Wave i barely ever break the 15 mark. **Thanks to Boo_Boy666 for my amazing Singnature**[hide=Slaytanicc's Achievments]|99Cooking achieved 24Dec 2008|99Strength achieved 17Feb 2009|99Hit Points achieved 8April 2009||99Defense achieved 29May 2009|99Attack achieved 2August 2009|99Ranged achieved 14August 2009|[/hide][hide=Guides by Slaytanicc]Aviansie Maging + Ranging Guide (Must Read!!)Iron Mining + Banking GuideGreen Dragons GuideAnkou Slaying Guide[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorgoroth Posted October 11, 2009 Author Share Posted October 11, 2009 Okay its been updated again. If anyone can tell me how to change the Title i will be greatfull :P **Thanks to Boo_Boy666 for my amazing Singnature**[hide=Slaytanicc's Achievments]|99Cooking achieved 24Dec 2008|99Strength achieved 17Feb 2009|99Hit Points achieved 8April 2009||99Defense achieved 29May 2009|99Attack achieved 2August 2009|99Ranged achieved 14August 2009|[/hide][hide=Guides by Slaytanicc]Aviansie Maging + Ranging Guide (Must Read!!)Iron Mining + Banking GuideGreen Dragons GuideAnkou Slaying Guide[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorgoroth Posted October 12, 2009 Author Share Posted October 12, 2009 A large section on Void has been added. Pictures of inventories and setups will be added real soon. Let me know if you spot any mistakes please. **Thanks to Boo_Boy666 for my amazing Singnature**[hide=Slaytanicc's Achievments]|99Cooking achieved 24Dec 2008|99Strength achieved 17Feb 2009|99Hit Points achieved 8April 2009||99Defense achieved 29May 2009|99Attack achieved 2August 2009|99Ranged achieved 14August 2009|[/hide][hide=Guides by Slaytanicc]Aviansie Maging + Ranging Guide (Must Read!!)Iron Mining + Banking GuideGreen Dragons GuideAnkou Slaying Guide[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soar Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 I saw your banner on the picture thread, was extremely bored so I made one for ya haha, do whatever you'd like with them ;) [hide=Hide] [/hide] And if you don't like the font or whatever and you want to use it just tell me and I can change it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jondea0 Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 Are you sure earth spells hit better? After a few runs I'm not convinced discuss a combat reformation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorgoroth Posted October 13, 2009 Author Share Posted October 13, 2009 Well i did A LOT of maging before i started writing this guide. I've done alot of maging sonce i did the guide. Ive done trips consisting of each elemental spell alone and ive done trips were i would do 1k of each. Everytime my result would be much better when using Earth spells. **Thanks to Boo_Boy666 for my amazing Singnature**[hide=Slaytanicc's Achievments]|99Cooking achieved 24Dec 2008|99Strength achieved 17Feb 2009|99Hit Points achieved 8April 2009||99Defense achieved 29May 2009|99Attack achieved 2August 2009|99Ranged achieved 14August 2009|[/hide][hide=Guides by Slaytanicc]Aviansie Maging + Ranging Guide (Must Read!!)Iron Mining + Banking GuideGreen Dragons GuideAnkou Slaying Guide[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorgoroth Posted October 14, 2009 Author Share Posted October 14, 2009 I need to add 2 more screen shots before this guide is completed. I am also going to add a "how to get there" section aswell as some info on the drops. After all of this is added the guide will be complete. **Thanks to Boo_Boy666 for my amazing Singnature**[hide=Slaytanicc's Achievments]|99Cooking achieved 24Dec 2008|99Strength achieved 17Feb 2009|99Hit Points achieved 8April 2009||99Defense achieved 29May 2009|99Attack achieved 2August 2009|99Ranged achieved 14August 2009|[/hide][hide=Guides by Slaytanicc]Aviansie Maging + Ranging Guide (Must Read!!)Iron Mining + Banking GuideGreen Dragons GuideAnkou Slaying Guide[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick4567 Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Wouldnt flames of zamarok be better since it lowers their magic defense so u hit more often.And also can u pot up to use charge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorgoroth Posted October 14, 2009 Author Share Posted October 14, 2009 Claws of guthix is the Spell that lowers their defense if i dont have it wrong. Or atleast thats what i was told. And yes, as far as i know you can pot up to charge. **Thanks to Boo_Boy666 for my amazing Singnature**[hide=Slaytanicc's Achievments]|99Cooking achieved 24Dec 2008|99Strength achieved 17Feb 2009|99Hit Points achieved 8April 2009||99Defense achieved 29May 2009|99Attack achieved 2August 2009|99Ranged achieved 14August 2009|[/hide][hide=Guides by Slaytanicc]Aviansie Maging + Ranging Guide (Must Read!!)Iron Mining + Banking GuideGreen Dragons GuideAnkou Slaying Guide[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorgoroth Posted October 14, 2009 Author Share Posted October 14, 2009 Alsmost done with guide. Just a "Getting There" section to be added. Let me know what you guys think so far? **Thanks to Boo_Boy666 for my amazing Singnature**[hide=Slaytanicc's Achievments]|99Cooking achieved 24Dec 2008|99Strength achieved 17Feb 2009|99Hit Points achieved 8April 2009||99Defense achieved 29May 2009|99Attack achieved 2August 2009|99Ranged achieved 14August 2009|[/hide][hide=Guides by Slaytanicc]Aviansie Maging + Ranging Guide (Must Read!!)Iron Mining + Banking GuideGreen Dragons GuideAnkou Slaying Guide[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorgoroth Posted October 15, 2009 Author Share Posted October 15, 2009 Alright. Everything has been added. I think my guide is finally 100% complete. Please if i missed something or let something out please let me know. **Thanks to Boo_Boy666 for my amazing Singnature**[hide=Slaytanicc's Achievments]|99Cooking achieved 24Dec 2008|99Strength achieved 17Feb 2009|99Hit Points achieved 8April 2009||99Defense achieved 29May 2009|99Attack achieved 2August 2009|99Ranged achieved 14August 2009|[/hide][hide=Guides by Slaytanicc]Aviansie Maging + Ranging Guide (Must Read!!)Iron Mining + Banking GuideGreen Dragons GuideAnkou Slaying Guide[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riptide Mage Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 In the course of 99 range I killed over 9500 aviansies while I was 85+ defense. I found that the increased speed of killing them by wearing full arma, sara bracers, and a zammy book made up for them hitting very slightly more often than when I used a DFS. You might also want to add that its really useful to bring a full inventory of strawberry baskets. Kill logs I could find: 500 kills ----- +264,120 gp +504 addy bars +1095 air runes +111 blood runes +1620 water runes -7 BTP -1210 mith bolts ----- 1,375,054 gp 2000 kills ----- +894,000 gp +1804 addy bars - 4,100,492 +4605 air runes - 55,260 +308 blood runes - 84,700 +6060 water runes - 90,900 +62 law runes - 17,608 -26 BTP - 33,202 -6836 mith bolts - 567,388 ----- 4,642,370 gp 572,602 exp 4,000 kills ----- +1,953,600 gp +3,708 Addy Bars - 8,443,116 +2 Tooth Half of a Key - 103,108 +1,028 Nature Runes - 235,412 +8,787 Air Runes - 114,231 +12,722 Water Runes - 203,552 +741 Chaos Runes - 101,517 +271 Law Runes - 78,319 +671 Blood Runes - 184,525 +12 Body Runes - 108 +3 Herbs - 4,490 -10,826 mith bolts - 909,384 -1,764 fire runes - 17,640 -64 BTP - 71,552 ----- 10,423,404 gp 1,062,364 range exp 2605.851 gp per kill 265.591 exp per kill 2,000 Kills ----- +1,013,168 gp +1,876 Addy Bars +1 Tooth Half of a Key +202 Nature Runes +4,646 Air Runes +6,210 Water Runes +338 Chaos Runes +124 Law Runes +285 Blood Runes -5,010 broad bolts -1,340 fire runes -5 BTP ----- 5,436,844 gp 554,428 range exp Yes, that really does say 5 BTP tabs for 2000 kills, I got way too many swordfish drops that trip, and I think I was around 95 def at that point. You make it sound like running through a few level 87 monsters is hard which it really shouldn't be at your level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorgoroth Posted October 15, 2009 Author Share Posted October 15, 2009 Thanx. I'm gonna have to recalculate those logs witht he current prices. That will help me alot to make sure i have my bar droprate correct. But at the moment it looks lik ei have it spot on. **Thanks to Boo_Boy666 for my amazing Singnature**[hide=Slaytanicc's Achievments]|99Cooking achieved 24Dec 2008|99Strength achieved 17Feb 2009|99Hit Points achieved 8April 2009||99Defense achieved 29May 2009|99Attack achieved 2August 2009|99Ranged achieved 14August 2009|[/hide][hide=Guides by Slaytanicc]Aviansie Maging + Ranging Guide (Must Read!!)Iron Mining + Banking GuideGreen Dragons GuideAnkou Slaying Guide[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick4567 Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 claws of guthix only lowers the melee defense right?Flames of zamorak lowers magic level of them which means they will have less resistance to magic and u hit higher and more often so less runes etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimy_Bunyip Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 claws of guthix only lowers the melee defense right?Flames of zamorak lowers magic level of them which means they will have less resistance to magic and u hit higher and more often so less runes etcMagic defense is calculated from 65% of your magic level, 30% of your defense level, and 5% of your ranged level Flames of zamorak may lower the targets defenses over twice as much as claws of guthix, but claws does lower the target's defences.that and add the fact that with a void mace, claws have a higher max hit. question for flames of zamorak and claws of guthix, do they lower it a set amount then stop lowering it? or does one or both keep on lowering the levels forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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