Bandos GS...

[DiscoDudeStrz]

Should I "train" def with bgs or use it for slayer?? which idea's better??

[CampbellMC]

Selling the BGS, buy a whip and do slayer. BGS is worse exp than whip by a good amount.

[Dire_Wolf]

About 80% of slayer monsters has relatively low defence. When they do whip works great.

 

 

 

Speed+Good accuracy>Good hits

 

 

 

But Godsword is slow. It's far from good for leveling.

 

 

 

Use Abyssal whip w/Rune defender.

[gorgoroth]

Okay well the poster above has very bad info and spelling. I would not suggest training with a BGS if youre looking for fast exp. Although its only about 5 - 8k slower than a whip (in my experience) whip is a better option for speed. Bgs should only be used for "fun training". Like i intend on getting 99atk using my BGS mainly, but thats just because i was looking for a fun way of getting it.

[Inuashakent]

Well... GS is worse than a Whip, and if you find using a sluggish weapon fun, then you could if you want. FACT, though, is that it is worse.

[Dire_Wolf]

Well... GS is worse than a Whip, and if you find using a sluggish weapon fun, then you could if you want. FACT, though, is that it is worse.

 

Don't make whip sound bad :? It's great! :thumbup:

[Inuashakent]

Well... GS is worse than a Whip, and if you find using a sluggish weapon fun, then you could if you want. FACT, though, is that it is worse.

 

Don't make whip sound bad :? It's great! :thumbup:

 

The sluggish weapon is the Godsword. I was referring to the above poster who said the GS was fun... which was opinion, so I gave him mine.

[Dire_Wolf]

Well... GS is worse than a Whip, and if you find using a sluggish weapon fun, then you could if you want. FACT, though, is that it is worse.

 

Don't make whip sound bad :? It's great! :thumbup:

 

The sluggish weapon is the Godsword. I was referring to the above poster who said the GS was fun... which was opinion, so I gave him mine.

 

"GS is worse than a whip" :cry:

 

 

 

Anyhow just saying :lol:

[bem26]

If your slayer is high enough you won't even be able to use the gs much as many of the slayer monsters requires an offhand or special weapon.

[Death123141]

If your slayer is high enough you won't even be able to use the gs much as many of the slayer monsters requires an offhand or special weapon.

 

Not that many do.

[RayOxide]

Well... GS is worse than a Whip, and if you find using a sluggish weapon fun, then you could if you want. FACT, though, is that it is worse.

 

 

 

Wait, the OP asked a question like this:

 

 

 

Should I train defence with BGS, or just use it for slayer?

 

 

 

Where does the whip come into this?

 

Where does the 'everyone has to play the game the same or you suck' come into this?

 

 

 

Why is RuneScape so freaking stupid now? I started and it was about fun. Not everyone used whips because they wanted levels pointlessly. Games are for fun, GS' are fun. OP wants fun, let him have fun.

[iKnowImWeird]

Back OT:

 

Use the GS for def training, and a whip/rune def for slayer. Pretty simple...

[Inuashakent]

Well... GS is worse than a Whip, and if you find using a sluggish weapon fun, then you could if you want. FACT, though, is that it is worse.

 

 

 

Wait, the OP asked a question like this:

 

 

 

Should I train defence with BGS, or just use it for slayer?

 

 

 

Where does the whip come into this?

 

Where does the 'everyone has to play the game the same or you suck' come into this?

 

 

 

Why is RuneScape so freaking stupid now? I started and it was about fun. Not everyone used whips because they wanted levels pointlessly. Games are for fun, GS' are fun. OP wants fun, let him have fun.

 

Lol. His question makes no sense anyways. Slayer = training... and if he meant camp, he didn't even specify a monster. So technically, the BGS shouldn't have even been in his question, but because it is, we should be allowed to mention another weapon instead, no?

[dirk4slayer]

I'd say train Slayer and Strength with your BGS, use a Whip for Defence.

[JoeDaStudd]

I was toying around doing some testing at AZ's just to confirm the difference of whip and BGS for attack or defense training.

 

 

 

With the best offensive and sustainable gear (void melee, god cloak [prayer bonus needed with void], d boots, zerker ring and salve ammy e) as well as potting every time I hit the 50% of the original boost.

 

Using whip and rune defender I get ~73k exp per hour

 

Using BGS I get ~60k per hour

 

 

 

So with my stats theres a 13k difference (~121% more exp with whip), but note that this is is with the best offensive gear on one of the best training spots. So with higher defense monsters its going to be a small gap and lower defense monsters a bigger gap.

[gorgoroth]

In all honesty, BGS = High Hits. High Hits = Fun. I trained most of my high 90's of Defendse with my BGS. Call me a noob, i really don't care, but i LOVE seeing those 50's. It may not be the most effecient way of training, but it sure is much more fun that falling in the rat race and usning Whip + Def just beacuase all the rest do. In the end of the day its about personal choice. Would you wna to reach 99Def 2 hours faster using a Whip + Def, or would you get it 2 hours slower but have much more fun?

[JoeDaStudd]

In all honesty, BGS = High Hits. High Hits = Fun. I trained most of my high 90's of Defendse with my BGS. Call me a noob, i really don't care, but i LOVE seeing those 50's. It may not be the most effecient way of training, but it sure is much more fun that falling in the rat race and usning Whip + Def just beacuase all the rest do. In the end of the day its about personal choice. Would you wna to reach 99Def 2 hours faster using a Whip + Def, or would you get it 2 hours slower but have much more fun?

 

Those 50's were the whole reason I was testing it ;)

 

I'll admit BGS was a more fun weapon to use, but the difference was too great considering I was only there for the exp.

 

 

 

Once I start training strength again I will be using it as the difference between the d scimmy and BGS is going to be very close.

[gorgoroth]

In all honesty, BGS = High Hits. High Hits = Fun. I trained most of my high 90's of Defendse with my BGS. Call me a noob, i really don't care, but i LOVE seeing those 50's. It may not be the most effecient way of training, but it sure is much more fun that falling in the rat race and usning Whip + Def just beacuase all the rest do. In the end of the day its about personal choice. Would you wna to reach 99Def 2 hours faster using a Whip + Def, or would you get it 2 hours slower but have much more fun?

 

Those 50's were the whole reason I was testing it ;)

 

I'll admit BGS was a more fun weapon to use, but the difference was too great considering I was only there for the exp.

 

 

 

Once I start training strength again I will be using it as the difference between the d scimmy and BGS is going to be very close.

 

Ill be frank with you, I find a D scimi appauling. I used it yesterday at Tzhaar and was greated with hits of 5's, 7's, 10's if im lucky.

[RayOxide]

Lol. His question makes no sense anyways. Slayer = training... and if he meant camp, he didn't even specify a monster. So technically, the BGS shouldn't have even been in his question, but because it is, we should be allowed to mention another weapon instead, no?

 

 

 

Seems when I go off-course in the same threads you do, you tell me to go back on-topic.

 

And so do others. No?

[Kinosjourney]

I suggest you use whip and defender for hard tasks and BGS for easy tasks, you can always use BGS as a spec weapon since its so cool

 

 

 

And BGS can be fun for training def at Ankous since you will 2-3 hit them.

 

 

 

Off topic: Im also saving for a BGS \

[JoeDaStudd]

I suggest you use whip and defender for hard tasks and BGS for easy tasks, you can always use BGS as a spec weapon since its so cool

 

 

 

And BGS can be fun for training def at Ankous since you will 2-3 hit them.

 

 

 

Off topic: Im also saving for a BGS \

 

The other way around BGS for harder high defense monsters and whip for easy low defense tasks.

 

Theres a 2:3 ratio with BGS:Whip on speed so if you've got something low level you can kill with whip in 2 hits and bgs with 2 (say a 50hp monster) then whip is going to be much faster kill per kill.

 

With a high defense monster you might miss twice with the whip and hit once, but with the bgs miss one and hit one so they balance out on speed but the higher strength helps the bgs hit higher.

 

Of course a there are very few slayer tasks which require a bgs over a whip especially with the need for special shields, leaf weapons and so on.

[meb]

I hit over 50 with whip :D . So you also have high hits with whip. Anywho, whips is a lot faster. And when I want to see high hits I bring AGS to spec, 70+ ftw.

[DiscoDudeStrz]

Off-Topic: man i left this topic for a day and came back to find out that it's too hot to post things around here! lolz :lol:

 

On-Topic: suuuuuuuuuuure!! I really agree with you guys who say that BGS is fun, IT IS FUN!! It kind'a "nourishes" me when i see my 45+ hits ;) ......And about training def i didn't even really mean that i'm gonna go for 10 lvls of def and 10 or 15 lvls of slayer bla bla..... Of course i know that whip/rune defender owns and are really quick for xp, but some guys here found out anonymously that i'm a guy of fun+training 8-) ......And talking about the slayer monsters... *Ahem* let me you something that i'm gonna be a member after a week and im gonna start slayer AFTER "99 STR" AND "85 or more ATTK".... So i was just "planning" to "train slayer AND def" both at the same time so i'll get some profit, xp for both skills, and fun all at the same time! :D ......Anyway, thnx aloadz u all guys!!

 

 

 

~!PeAcE!~ :mrgreen:

[Dire_Wolf]

Off-Topic: man i left this topic for a day and came back to find out that it's too hot to post things around here! lolz :lol:

 

On-Topic: suuuuuuuuuuure!! I really agree with you guys who say that BGS is fun, IT IS FUN!! It kind'a "nourishes" me when i see my 45+ hits ;) ......And about training def i didn't even really mean that i'm gonna go for 10 lvls of def and 10 or 15 lvls of slayer bla bla..... Of course i know that whip/rune defender owns and are really quick for xp, but some guys here found out anonymously that i'm a guy of fun+training 8-) ......And talking about the slayer monsters... *Ahem* let me you something that i'm gonna be a member after a week and im gonna start slayer AFTER "99 STR" AND "85 or more ATTK".... So i was just "planning" to "train slayer AND def" both at the same time so i'll get some profit, xp for both skills, and fun all at the same time! :D ......Anyway, thnx aloadz u all guys!!

 

 

 

~!PeAcE!~ :mrgreen:

 

Helm of neizinot

 

Amulet of strength

 

Bandos chestplate

 

Bandos tassets

 

Dragon boots

 

Barrow gloves

 

Fire cape

 

Abyssal whip with Rune defender

 

Berserker ring

 

 

 

= Over 50+ max damage with abyssal whip and very fast.

[Inuashakent]

Lol. His question makes no sense anyways. Slayer = training... and if he meant camp, he didn't even specify a monster. So technically, the BGS shouldn't have even been in his question, but because it is, we should be allowed to mention another weapon instead, no?

 

 

 

Seems when I go off-course in the same threads you do, you tell me to go back on-topic.

 

And so do others. No?

 

...What?

 

 

 

 

Helm of neizinot

 

Amulet of strength

 

Bandos chestplate

 

Bandos tassets

 

Dragon boots

 

Barrow gloves

 

Fire cape

 

Abyssal whip with Rune defender

 

Berserker ring

 

 

 

= Over 50+ max damage with abyssal whip and very fast.

 

+Piety

 

 

 

Whips hit very high, but they're fast... so they don't fit the stereotype that fast = low hits.