Defence Apparently is Useless.

[3hitm4g3u]

Defence only really seems to work against NPC's and not very well at that. Iv seen famous pkers with 1 defence and 99 attack and strength rip right through dharoks pkers while barley taking any damage at all, having 99 defence as well, it sometimes feels like my cape means nothing at all

 

 

 

When you watch PK videos just remember the pker doesnt show the clips of him dying.

[All_Is_Great]

The problem isn't the combat system, its the new uber strong weapons Jagex is coming out with. GS, D claws, D bow + dragon arrows, vls, and bolt specials. These weapons have the ability to literally OHKO, so it makes luck more important than skill. Before these weapons, it was whip + dds. The dds is very inaccurate, much less than ags and d claws, so it was still fair. These days, all you see is claws rushing, ags speccing a 70+, and boom, the other person's dead. :roll:

 

 

 

Kinda sucks tbh.

[3hitm4g3u]

The problem isn't the combat system, its the new uber strong weapons Jagex is coming out with. GS, D claws, D bow + dragon arrows, vls, and bolt specials. These weapons have the ability to literally OHKO, so it makes luck more important than skill. Before these weapons, it was whip + dds. The dds is very inaccurate, much less than ags and d claws, so it was still fair. These days, all you see is claws rushing, ags speccing a 70+, and boom, the other person's dead. :roll:

 

 

 

Kinda sucks tbh.

 

 

 

It's exciting, that's why I like P2P pking better than F2P.

 

 

 

You sound like you'd like F2P pking more.

[EpicWin]

Defense is useless, because weapons are too powerful for 90+ Defense to handle. It makes a difference, but the strength of weapons just kill it.

[Zamorakshadow]

With the weapons of today, both Defence and HP don't seem to matter much anymore...

[heartunitftw]

That sucks. :( He probably potted before attacking you, not sure if you did also but that could be a reason.

[All_Is_Great]

The problem isn't the combat system, its the new uber strong weapons Jagex is coming out with. GS, D claws, D bow + dragon arrows, vls, and bolt specials. These weapons have the ability to literally OHKO, so it makes luck more important than skill. Before these weapons, it was whip + dds. The dds is very inaccurate, much less than ags and d claws, so it was still fair. These days, all you see is claws rushing, ags speccing a 70+, and boom, the other person's dead. :roll:

 

 

 

Kinda sucks tbh.

 

 

 

It's exciting, that's why I like P2P pking better than F2P.

 

 

 

You sound like you'd like F2P pking more.

 

 

 

Yea haha, I only got members after they took out the wilderness, because all I did before that was f2p pk. :P

[3hitm4g3u]

The problem isn't the combat system, its the new uber strong weapons Jagex is coming out with. GS, D claws, D bow + dragon arrows, vls, and bolt specials. These weapons have the ability to literally OHKO, so it makes luck more important than skill. Before these weapons, it was whip + dds. The dds is very inaccurate, much less than ags and d claws, so it was still fair. These days, all you see is claws rushing, ags speccing a 70+, and boom, the other person's dead. :roll:

 

 

 

Kinda sucks tbh.

 

 

 

It's exciting, that's why I like P2P pking better than F2P.

 

 

 

You sound like you'd like F2P pking more.

 

 

 

Yea haha, I only got members after they took out the wilderness, because all I did before that was f2p pk. :P

 

 

 

I usually hate to pk in F2P (got downed once while hitting constant zeros, made me detest F2P) but recently I've started enjoying it. But since we have F2P pking I can't see any real reason why P2P pking should be toned down. Especially since anything above 40 defence can tank like a pro in F2P.

[Lord_Shalaj]

Divine and Elysian Spirit Shields are away to counter strong weapons like Dragon Claws and AGS, but unfortunately, they are too rare at the moment.

 

 

 

Thanks..

 

Lord Shalaj

[perfetc]

Divine and Elysian Spirit Shields are away to counter strong weapons like Dragon Claws and AGS, but unfortunately, they are too rare at the moment.

 

 

 

Thanks..

 

Lord Shalaj

 

 

 

It isn't that they are rare, it is that cos they are so rare the price is around 400 million, so there not really an effective counter to them weapons.

[AlexDT]

Yeah defence is fairly underpowered what with the new hyper-strength-bonus weapons.

 

I just liked the colour of the cape.

[Zamorakshadow]

Yeah defence is fairly underpowered what with the new hyper-strength-bonus weapons.

 

I just liked the colour of the cape.

 

 

 

Defence is not underpowered, as it is supposed to stop the accuracy of the enemy and still does it.

 

What is underpowered is HP, which can't handle the Hyper strenght bonuses.

 

 

 

We need a way to counter str and/or make hp less underpowered >.<

[perfetc]

Yeah defence is fairly underpowered what with the new hyper-strength-bonus weapons.

 

I just liked the colour of the cape.

 

 

 

Defence is not underpowered, as it is supposed to stop the accuracy of the enemy and still does it.

 

What is underpowered is HP, which can't handle the Hyper strenght bonuses.

 

 

 

We need a way to counter str and/or make hp less underpowered >.<

 

 

 

I think defence should be changed to the conventional meaning to stop the massive hits then fights will last a little longer, which will also reduces rushers in pking.

 

 

 

This would mean a massive suit of heavy metal will mean you will get hit more and mages could have a stat which makes them harder to hit but when they are hit it is fairly high cos they are only wearing cloth, finaly, rangers will be somewere in the middle.

 

 

 

It makes sense to me and it works with all other simlier games.

[Zierro]

While the idea of a traditional purpose for Defense sounds better to me, an update of that magnitude would cause way too much of an uproar. Not because it would be a bad update, but because 90% of Runescapers are petrified of the word "change".

[perfetc]

While the idea of a traditional purpose for Defense sounds better to me, an update of that magnitude would cause way too much of an uproar. Not because it would be a bad update, but because 90% of Runescapers are petrified of the word "change".

 

 

 

Fair point but given runescape is altered some way every week and the rants and recent updates threads get spammed with the same boring "JAGEX fail again" threads, I am sure Jagex have learned to hear but really listen to vast majority of unintelligent threads.

 

 

 

I am fully aware JAGEX will never change the meaning of defence but that won't stop me thinking it should be changed.