Saru Inc Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 It's a simple question. What's so great about Tool and Pink Floyd? Most people on this forum love one of them if not both, but I've listened to them, in my opinion they doesn't seem that great. Anything I'm missing? Or is it the kind of music you either love or hate? I have all the 99s, and have been playing since 2001. Comped 4/30/15 My Araxxi Kills: 459::Araxxi Drops(KC):Araxxi Hilts: 4x Eye (14/126/149/459), Web - (100) Fang (193) Araxxi Legs Completed: 5 ---Top (69/206/234/292/361), Middle (163/176/278/343/395), Bottom (135/256/350/359/397)Boss Pets: Supreme - 848 KCIf you play Xbox One - Add me! GT: Urtehnoes - Currently on a Destiny binge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jernlov Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 Personally, I find Pink Floyd a very relaxing band to listen to. There's nothing like playing Wish You Were Here or Meddle after a long, stressful day. Their music just happens to have all of the elements that I think make a great rock band - simple yet effective guitar work, powerful vocals, and poetic, beautifully-crafted lyrics. I was exposed to The Dark Side of the Moon at a relatively early age and I've been an avid Pink Floyd listener ever since then. The first two tracks didn't do much for me, but the moment Time kicked in, I was absolutely sold. As for Tool: well, in all honesty I do think it's angsty music for insecure teenagers. I've somewhat refined my opinion from my "lol tool, lol maynard" days, but I can't really say that I enjoy them as a band. Whilst being a technically proficient band by anyone's standard (check out those time changes and weird rhythms), they seem to lack significantly in the ability to craft memorable songs. The only song I can vaguely remember is Schism. Like so many other contemporary bands with progressive elements, Tool seems to come short of what they actually intended to do because they indulge far too much in trying to come across as esoteric and philosophical. I've never really felt anything in them. I don't hate them anymore, mind you. Steam | Soup | Last.fm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lateralus Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 Two very odd bands to juxtapose in a way. The reason they're both so highly regarded is because they make emotional and (usually) clever music without being prententious (though the fans are another story all together). Both are bands that grow on you I think. La lune ne garde aucune rancune. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdioLovesSquall Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 theyre pretty much gateway bands for people into more "serious" music, thus they are cherished as bands of 'nostalgic' value and people hold on to them as so. that isnt to say theyre bad but they're rather accessible gateways. if you don't get it, dont worry, a lot of people dont. or you can be like me and get it but not be a fan. B)B)B)B)B)B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powerr Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 pink floyd is a good band, tool ive never heard of. people like pink floyd because its a classic rock band, so it has history. they are also a bit wierd at time, from i think it was comfortably numb, they sang,"and the wooorms ate into his brain." its just some sort of aura that somehow makes even those moments relaxing. they deleted my double signature... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Range_This11 Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 As for Tool: well, in all honesty I do think it's angsty music for insecure teenagers. I've somewhat refined my opinion from my "lol tool, lol maynard" days, but I can't really say that I enjoy them as a band. Whilst being a technically proficient band by anyone's standard (check out those time changes and weird rhythms), they seem to lack significantly in the ability to craft memorable songs. The only song I can vaguely remember is Schism. Like so many other contemporary bands with progressive elements, Tool seems to come short of what they actually intended to do because they indulge far too much in trying to come across as esoteric and philosophical. I've never really felt anything in them. I don't hate them anymore, mind you. I don't really think that Tool's music could be considered "angsty" at all. Maybe so on Undertow, but that's it. You're very right in being technically proficient department, especially in their drummer. I've started actually study his drumming in more of sense than just playing along and making my own beats up. I've transcribed his music out on about 4 or 5 songs and all I can say is that there is no one out there that can drum better than him right now. That's where I get hooked so much by Tool. They're really appealing to a certain type of listener and, unfortunately, also to morons that think that Tool is some sort of "godsend". Some fans need to stop pushing Tool on people and bringing it up every two seconds when they're discussing music. You can listen to Tool and just enjoy the music for simply being good music, or you can try to understand the different level of thinking the music is trying to convey. Either way is enjoyable to me. "He could climb to it, if he climbed alone, and once there he could suck on the pap of life, gulp down the incomparable milk of wonder." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zierro Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 I hated Tool and Pink Floyd the first few times I listened to them then when I got into my teenage years my musical taste evolved a lot. The more I listen to them, the more drawn in I get. As for what Lateralus said, the fans do get [bleep]ing annoying when they call them gods and such, but I don't think that takes away from the band's music at all. (Although it's strange that someone with Lateralus as their name said that. :P ) I think it's stupid when someone doesn't like a particular thing just to avoid being associated with the other fans. Like so many other contemporary bands with progressive elements, Tool seems to come short of what they actually intended to do because they indulge far too much in trying to come across as esoteric and philosophical. How do you know what they intended to do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jernlov Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 Like so many other contemporary bands with progressive elements, Tool seems to come short of what they actually intended to do because they indulge far too much in trying to come across as esoteric and philosophical. How do you know what they intended to do?Musically they seem to want to fuse alt. rock/alt. metal with progressive rock. Whilst they handle the first part quite well, their 'progression' seems muddled in its execution. 10,000 Days did seem to be an improvement here, but I think they definitely need to either refine the prog or just drop it outright. Instead of sounding intriguing, it sounds as if they're noodling around on their instruments and not really sure as to where to really go with their music. As I've stressed in many posts: there's not much good in using technical proficiency as a selling point when a band's song structure is messy. Just my two on Tool and the like. Steam | Soup | Last.fm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenticular_J Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 Both good music. Both have terrible fans that are complete idiots. I know a guy who thinks Pink Floyd is the greatest and most original band ever, and thought King Crimson must just be some imitating punks. I like King Crimson more, to be honest. catch it now so you can like it before it went so mainstream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jernlov Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 I like King Crimson more, to be honest.:o I never would have thought of you as a KC fan. What's your favourite album? Steam | Soup | Last.fm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warri0r45 Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 Personally I love them both. The appeal comes largely with the fact that they write good, original music. Perhaps it's not to everyone's taste, but that doesn't make them bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenticular_J Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 I like King Crimson more, to be honest.:o I never would have thought of you as a KC fan. What's your favourite album? You guys got me into KC. I have to be original and say In The Court of the Crimson King, because it's the first one I ever heard. Just sounds like it would go great with some sort of sweeping Greek epic plus spaceman kind of movie. If I ever make a movie (a serious thought of mine), I would so most def use KC. Plus I've never been too impressed with Pink Floyd. I mean, my favorite song is "Wish You Were Here". Real Floydians would [bleep]ing kill me. catch it now so you can like it before it went so mainstream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Range_This11 Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 Plus I've never been too impressed with Pink Floyd. I mean, my favorite song is "Wish You Were Here". Real Floydians would [bleep] kill me. Try watching this if you're bored. It might give a little more insight. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zbq47vQHfo "He could climb to it, if he climbed alone, and once there he could suck on the pap of life, gulp down the incomparable milk of wonder." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenticular_J Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 Oh, yeah, I recognize that Pink Floyd revolutionized music by making a small, pretty much inacessible genre wildly popular. The music itself just doesn't do a whole lot for me. catch it now so you can like it before it went so mainstream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albel Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 I love tool, awsome band. As Lent said though... Both good music. Both have terrible fans that are complete idiots. I know plently of tool fans where I live that are... I listen to tool for relaxing music, or when Im angry. It...calms me down, and clears my mind. The lyrics also make you think, in my honest opinion. I always have and always loved too, I cant wait for their next albulm (Friend said it was coming out in 2010 :thumbsup: ) [hide=Quotes]Albel/JustinAlbel doesn't say anything anymore, just comes in, leaves an arrow and vanishes into the night :(Probablypractising some euphoniumYou nearly had me fooled, you fooler youEuphonium/10.9/10. To me, always associate Albel with musical stuff in OT.Everyone with a goatee and glasses is Albel now.lmfao albel m8 wat r u doin, hi though. [/hide][hide=Runescape Achievements]99 firemaking(2007), 99 woodcutting(2008), 99 fletching(2009), 99 magic(2010), 99 cooking(2010), 99 farming(2011), 99 construction(2011), 99 runecrafting(2012), 99 Hunter (2014), 99 ranged (2015), 99 HP (2015), 99 Slayer (2015), 99 attack (2015) 99 Defense (2015) 99 Prayer (2015) 99 Summoning (2015) 99 Strength(2015) 99 Herblore (2015) 99 Dungeoneering (2017) 99 Mining (2017) 99 Crafting (2017) 99 Smithing (2017) 99 Thieving (2017) 99 invention (2017) 99 Fishing (2018), 99 Divination (2018), 99 Agility (2018), MAXED (05/17/2018)[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nerdattack16 Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 Oh, yeah, I recognize that Pink Floyd revolutionized music by making a small, pretty much inacessible genre wildly popular. The music itself just doesn't do a whole lot for me. I've gotta agree with you here, Lenty. I'll listen to Pink Floyd when they play on the radio, but that's it. Wouldn't consider buying/downloading any. Never really liked Tool, either. I guess they're talented, but not as much as some people say they are. Always hated when a band/musician got arrogant for poor reason *cough*Lars sucks*cough*boring drumming*cough**egothesizeofMars**cough* Sig credit goes to ThruItAll. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zierro Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 Hmmm, I'm surprised no one mentioned being drug induced and listening to them yet. I always have and always loved too, I cant wait for their next albulm (Friend said it was coming out in 2010 :thumbsup: ) Are you sure? Aren't they known for making up rumors to get their fans worked up? I haven't heard anything about a new album yet. Plus I've never been too impressed with Pink Floyd. I mean, my favorite song is "Wish You Were Here". Real Floydians would [bleep] kill me. I wouldn't consider myself a "real Floydian" whatever the hell that means, but even though I do like a lot of their music I think that song is definitely one of their best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Range_This11 Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 Hmmm, I'm surprised no one mentioned being drug induced and listening to them yet. I was just going to let it pass because the moderators don't typically like that but yeah, both bands are a major trip that you need to try. I always have and always loved too, I cant wait for their next albulm (Friend said it was coming out in 2010 :thumbsup: ) Are you sure? Aren't they known for making up rumors to get their fans worked up? I haven't heard anything about a new album yet. They never do that on purpose, they only say when they're going into the studio. It's never a definite date until they release it and anything else is simply speculation. Although I do not doubt they'll release it in 2010, it could be until 2011 if you look at their track record for the last 2 albums. "He could climb to it, if he climbed alone, and once there he could suck on the pap of life, gulp down the incomparable milk of wonder." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
How2PK Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 I used to be a pretty big tool fan, now I find it hard to listen to them. I also used to be a PF fan, but I rarely play them anymore. I went on, and kind of left them behind, although I can still appreciate their music, whereas a lot of Tool stuff just sucks the blood from under my nails these days. Signature by Maurice SendakWhen the stars make you drool just like a pasta fazool, that's amore! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jernlov Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 I like King Crimson more, to be honest.:o I never would have thought of you as a KC fan. What's your favourite album? You guys got me into KC. I have to be original and say In The Court of the Crimson King, because it's the first one I ever heard. Just sounds like it would go great with some sort of sweeping Greek epic plus spaceman kind of movie. If I ever make a movie (a serious thought of mine), I would so most def use KC. Plus I've never been too impressed with Pink Floyd. I mean, my favorite song is "Wish You Were Here". Real Floydians would [bleep] kill me.Most KC fans kill me because I like their 1980s sound most. Discipline is a [bleep]ing great album and if you don't have it, I recommend picking it up as soon as you can. It's very rare for every song on an album to stick with me. It's considerably more relaxed and mellow than their earlier albums and they've lost the jazz fusion, which is why I love it so much. Steam | Soup | Last.fm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcneilp Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 You're very right in being technically proficient department, especially in their drummer. I've started actually study his drumming in more of sense than just playing along and making my own beats up. I've transcribed his music out on about 4 or 5 songs and all I can say is that there is no one out there that can drum better than him right now. It was the drumming that drew me to Tool in the first place. My drum teacher let me hear a few tracks a few years back and i've liked them ever since. As for Pink Floyd, my parents listened to them so i kind of grew up hearing them. Prefer Tool, however. It isn't in the castle, It isn't in the mist, It's a calling of the waters, As they break to show, The new Black Death, With reactors aglow, Do you think your security, Can keep you in purity, You will not shake us off above or belowScottish frictionScottish fiction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RpgGamer Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 Pink Floyd is good. Not great but good. I suppose I should listen to more of them before I say much else. As for Tool, I love them dearly. Some of their songs are just a waste of time and space (like those 1.5 minute intro songs on Lateralus) but others are masterpieces. I recommend listening to the album 10,000 days from begining toend while skipping over "viginti tres". Three amazing songs on there including "Vicarious" , "Jambi" , and "Right in Two". Tool i traditionally calm and collected, but some of their songs are just out right rockin'. Sometimes it just takes six minutes or so to get to the song part of the song. But I love how thought provking their lyrics are, especially in the album "Lateralus". I also love the lead singer's voice. The singer also founded two other bands called A Perfect Circle and Puscifer I like a lot of what A perfect Circle is, but the other band isn't that amazing. I hear Tool's next album is scheduled for Winter 2010. I'm very excited :D Quote Quote Anyone who likes tacos is incapable of logic. Anyone who likes logic is incapable of tacos. PSA: SaqPrets is an Estonian Dude Steam: NippleBeardTM Origin: Brand_New_iPwn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElkNight Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 I recommend listening to the album 10,000 days from begining toend while skipping over "viginti tres". Three amazing songs on there including "Vicarious" , "Jambi" , and "Right in Two". You skipped the best songs(s) Wings for Marie (Pt 1) and 10,000 Days (Wings Pt 2) 8,180WONGTONG IS THE BEST AND IS MORE SUPERIOR THAN ME#1 Wongtong stalker.Im looking for some No Limit soldiers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Range_This11 Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 Right in Two is easily the best song on 10,000 Days. "He could climb to it, if he climbed alone, and once there he could suck on the pap of life, gulp down the incomparable milk of wonder." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warri0r45 Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 I recommend listening to the album 10,000 days from begining toend while skipping over "viginti tres". Three amazing songs on there including "Vicarious" , "Jambi" , and "Right in Two". You skipped the best songs(s) Wings for Marie (Pt 1) and 10,000 Days (Wings Pt 2) I can't say I got into those as much as the other songs on that album. There just doesn't seem like any coherent "point" to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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