a_bert Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 I respect you for that Dusty. Japanese troops now go into battle with this song blasting out [yt]CUuvIi3UFK4[/yt] 'Tis I, 'tis Vindice, 'tis I! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 Moon base is going very well, we're nearly done building the mine. Not that hard, considering the lack of gravity. Easy to support the mines and even easier to get the rock out. If anyone needs a crap load of any sort of rock, go ahead and ask. In other news... Burma's army has reached 4 million troops, trained and ready. Well, as soon as the weapons come in, which won't be long. *Stares at Doom* We're working on a new weapon, our biggest project yet. Will be ready in about 5 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 Moon base is going very well, we're nearly done building the mine. Not that hard, considering the lack of gravity. Easy to support the mines and even easier to get the rock out. If anyone needs a crap load of any sort of rock, go ahead and ask. In other news... Burma's army has reached 4 million troops, trained and ready. Well, as soon as the weapons come in, which won't be long. *Stares at Doom* We're working on a new weapon, our biggest project yet. Will be ready in about 5 years. You're moving pretty quick for an extremely new country, y'know? Maybe slow it down a bit and try to pay off the massive debt you've incurred buying spaceships and weapons and raising 4 million armed forces personnel. Vienna Raszyn Warsaw Klushino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 Moon base is going very well, we're nearly done building the mine. Not that hard, considering the lack of gravity. Easy to support the mines and even easier to get the rock out. If anyone needs a crap load of any sort of rock, go ahead and ask. In other news... Burma's army has reached 4 million troops, trained and ready. Well, as soon as the weapons come in, which won't be long. *Stares at Doom* We're working on a new weapon, our biggest project yet. Will be ready in about 5 years. You're moving pretty quick for an extremely new country, y'know? Maybe slow it down a bit and try to pay off the massive debt you've incurred buying spaceships and weapons and raising 4 million armed forces personnel. The Space ships will pay for themselves in time. Besides, we have a population of more then 100 million. We have enough tax money to do this. Never mind the fact that if someone decides to attack me, I'd lose alot more money then I would if I had an Army ready to defend us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a_bert Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 Burma's GDP in 2009 was 68 billion, with 50 million inhabitants. Just by doubling the population I'd expect perhaps only an increase in GDP of around 10 billion, if that, unless you want to tax them so much that they starve and revolt against you. Even with an increase in industry and stuff, your GDP wouldn't be much higher than 200 billion, and that spaceship cost you a lot. 'Tis I, 'tis Vindice, 'tis I! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wisp Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 According to the list of predicted future populations, Burma's population will be around 60 million by this point. No way you can double your population in just a couple years. And while a space ship may pay for itself eventually, it would be a while. Considering the average burmian made about 1000$ annualy in 2009, I don't think you can afford a 4 million man army. I would recommend starting slower. Work on internal projects, instead of military. Improve your road system, your energy/fuel tech, your education system. Make new policies. I don't think you have to worry about anyone attacking you, it's kind of against the unspoken rules to attack newer players. China, a country that had 1.2 billion people in real life only had an army of 3 million. And they have a much larger gdp than you. People, just because you have 60 million people doesn't mean you can reasonably have a 4 million person army. The USA spends more money than any other country in the world on military, and that army is only 3 million. Even if you paid each of those 4 million people only 10,000 a year that would still put you very deep in debt. That doesn't include supplying them, and training and equipping a soldier takes more than you pay them by far. If you tax your people 50% (Insanely high), you would be going 40 billion minimum into debt a year in upkeep for your army a year, and then with your tax dollars you have to pay for everything else. Government officials, roads, schools, police, agricultural benefits, emergency response, medical stuff, and so on. At the rate you're doing, you're gonna be going 2,3 hundred billion into debt a year. Remember, when you're calculating how much you can spend each year, it's not your gdp. It's however much your taxing. (there are some other parts but that's the main bit). If you tax too much, your people will starve and revolt. Tax to little, and you can't maintain your cities. I have a gdp of about 24 trillion at this point (iirc). I tax an average of 20%, so that leaves me with about 6 trillion. Of that 6 trillion about 5 goes to upkeep, then the rest goes to military. Also with added things like selling ships, we have a bit more, and that goes to research. Also remember that on the moon, people degrade. Their bones get very weak, and the amount of radiation that hits them will eventually lead to their deaths. Hegemony-Spain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 Also remember that on the moon, people degrade. Their bones get very weak, and the amount of radiation that hits them will eventually lead to their deaths. People die. That's how it goes. My moon base is doing very well also and we have expanded the solar fields by several hundred more square miles. The Mars base is also doing quite well and is receiving constant shipments from the Moon. Its solar field has also increased in size. Our fifth and sixth nuclear plants have gone up on the Moon. These are also charging batteries for our railguns. We have decided it is time to invest in our first proper space ship. This will be a massive $32b project taking place over the next 7 years. We are planning to incorporate vertical takeoff and landing, heavy missiles, our first weaponized lasers, and larger railguns than ever before. It will also be home to twin nuclear reactors and much of the surface will have solar panels (it will still be heavily armored, but on top of the armor there are solar panels). I'd like to request an alliance with Burma. $32b? That's it? ARe your railguns going to be made from paper mache? Lol. Vienna Raszyn Warsaw Klushino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RpgGamer Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 #-o I just read 10 pages of nothing but whining and arguing. I have 2 things to say: 1) This is a freakin' game. Play nice, play fair or it won't be fun anymore. 2) Why is it no one can co-operate at all? I'll admit that I was the mastermind behind provoking Germania(not hedgehog1) but christ you people can't stick to a plan. I don't think i want to go through 10 pages of fail again. Luxembourg will continue to empty all war material inventories into the hands of LatinoKing. When that's over with, Luxembourg will probably retract back into being a peaceful production country. War and Religion are obsolete after all. Quote Quote Anyone who likes tacos is incapable of logic. Anyone who likes logic is incapable of tacos. PSA: SaqPrets is an Estonian Dude Steam: NippleBeardTM Origin: Brand_New_iPwn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wisp Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 The international space station cost over 400 billion. My Desta space ship cost roughly 5 trillion over a 14 year time. 32 billion would fund a normal shuttle for a few hundred launches. And taking off from earth in any sized ship is impossible. None of my ships that land are designed. ( A nasa space shuttle takes I think 500 million each launch). The cost of developing a space shuttle was around 150 billion. And that's a space shuttle with (obviously) no weapons, that goes into orbit, or to the moon and back, that holds just a few people. A standard nuclear reactor costs atleast 15 billion. The ships I sell are mainly for transport, have no weapons, and cost 300 billion. The only reasonable way to build a space ship of any size is in space, which I think only a few countries have the capabilities to do. Start improving your own country more internally, get the gdp up there, produce a product other people will buy (We've made over 2 trillion selling ships) and then you can start something that big. Hegemony-Spain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 Eh, I suppose your right. Changing my population (Burma and Cambodia combined) to 82 million. I think that's reasonable. My army has been reduced to 500,000, however we still have plently of trained men who could be soliders all over the country. We've began to follow Dooms over advice as well, and we're going to be building schools and hospitals all over the country. Nearly every person in burma is employed, working as loggers, miners and farmers/fishermen. Oh, and by the way, the project I'm working on will be sold, so hopefully that will bring us out of debt. And rocco, Burma accepts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wisp Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 That sounds good. I don't want to hold you back too long in the thread, but it would be be better if you started somewhere a bit more reasonable, and worked your way up now (like you're doing). Also, if you're looking for inspiration for something to do, look through pages 2-10 or so of the thread, that's where most people started doing what you have to do now. Here were my first two relevant posts in the thread. [hide=]Or if not, I'd pick Brazil. Tenth largest economy in the world, largest military in latin america, almost 200 million people, I'd say it has potential. Maybe I could work with Lent and his Argentinian controlled portion of South America. Mainly in the country, I'd try to end foreign exploitation, and instead allow the country to take advantage of it's own resources, which would help reduce poverty, as well as creating many new jobs, and improving old ones. The military would have to remain strong, I might even pull a north korea in having all citizens take basic training at some point, and all households would have a rifle or handgun. Less dangerous drugs like Marijuana, salvia, etc. would be legalized, but taxed. Heavier drugs like heroin, and cocaine would be regulated in that you could only get a certain amount every month, to help decrease OD's and addictions if possible. Of course people would still get them illegally, but it couldn't hurt to regulate them a bit. Heavier taxes would be imposed on the wealthy, but not cripplingly high, and lesser taxes on the poor in order to decrease poverty and help redistribute the wealth so it would not only be the elite who had money. I don't think I would try to annex any other countries, Brazil still has many national resources and a good amount of space. I would protect the rain forests if possible, or at least put aside a large amount of them that would be government land and illegal to log on or otherwise exploit. (Next post) Once then new government was put into place, the first thing we'd do would be to impose extremely heavy taxes on all foreign companies exporting our resources, to the point it becomes unprofitable and they are forced to leave the country. These taxes would give my government enough extra funds to start using our own resources for the good of our country, rather than for foreign countries' interests. The majority of the Amazon would become a preserve, and all the thousands of miles of cut-down forests, instead of just being an eyesore would become solar or wind farms, which would effectively make Brazil energy-independent. The government would fund massive urban re-organization and renewal projects, creating thousands or millions of jobs, providing better housing for the poor, and overall cleaning up the cities. Shantytowns would become a thing of the past. The overall quality of life would increase immensely for the majority of people. A long term plan would be to equip almost ever roof in the country with solar panels, which eventually would lead to a profit and an excess of power. We would sell our excess electricity to neighboring countries for a cheaper price than oil, leading to good relations with surrounding nations. We are investing a lot of our excess funds in on space travel, as well, under the project name of SAB All citizens would go through basic training, and at least 3 months of active service at some point in their life, unless they are already above 50 or a pre-existing condition prevents them. Military size would increase, but only for defense, seeing as with all the new governments around the world, someone is going to be violent. Develop a state-of-the-art missile defense system along our borders, and at various points around the country. We would not build any nuclear weapons of our own, so our missile system could not be mistaken for an offensive act. All citizens would also go through a emergency response class for a few weeks, detailing what to do in an environmental, nuclear, or military crisis. EDIT: After researching a bit, the first military priority would be repairing and maintenancing (Not actually a word I don't think) everything. Then getting newer and up-to-date weapons and vehicles. That's all I can think of right now.[/hide] Hegemony-Spain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim_ Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 That sounds good. I don't want to hold you back too long in the thread, but it would be be better if you started somewhere a bit more reasonable, and worked your way up now (like you're doing). Also, if you're looking for inspiration for something to do, look through pages 2-10 or so of the thread, that's where most people started doing what you have to do now. Here were my first two relevant posts in the thread. [hide=]Or if not, I'd pick Brazil. Tenth largest economy in the world, largest military in latin america, almost 200 million people, I'd say it has potential. Maybe I could work with Lent and his Argentinian controlled portion of South America. Mainly in the country, I'd try to end foreign exploitation, and instead allow the country to take advantage of it's own resources, which would help reduce poverty, as well as creating many new jobs, and improving old ones. The military would have to remain strong, I might even pull a north korea in having all citizens take basic training at some point, and all households would have a rifle or handgun. Less dangerous drugs like Marijuana, salvia, etc. would be legalized, but taxed. Heavier drugs like heroin, and cocaine would be regulated in that you could only get a certain amount every month, to help decrease OD's and addictions if possible. Of course people would still get them illegally, but it couldn't hurt to regulate them a bit. Heavier taxes would be imposed on the wealthy, but not cripplingly high, and lesser taxes on the poor in order to decrease poverty and help redistribute the wealth so it would not only be the elite who had money. I don't think I would try to annex any other countries, Brazil still has many national resources and a good amount of space. I would protect the rain forests if possible, or at least put aside a large amount of them that would be government land and illegal to log on or otherwise exploit. (Next post) Once then new government was put into place, the first thing we'd do would be to impose extremely heavy taxes on all foreign companies exporting our resources, to the point it becomes unprofitable and they are forced to leave the country. These taxes would give my government enough extra funds to start using our own resources for the good of our country, rather than for foreign countries' interests. The majority of the Amazon would become a preserve, and all the thousands of miles of cut-down forests, instead of just being an eyesore would become solar or wind farms, which would effectively make Brazil energy-independent. The government would fund massive urban re-organization and renewal projects, creating thousands or millions of jobs, providing better housing for the poor, and overall cleaning up the cities. Shantytowns would become a thing of the past. The overall quality of life would increase immensely for the majority of people. A long term plan would be to equip almost ever roof in the country with solar panels, which eventually would lead to a profit and an excess of power. We would sell our excess electricity to neighboring countries for a cheaper price than oil, leading to good relations with surrounding nations. We are investing a lot of our excess funds in on space travel, as well, under the project name of SAB All citizens would go through basic training, and at least 3 months of active service at some point in their life, unless they are already above 50 or a pre-existing condition prevents them. Military size would increase, but only for defense, seeing as with all the new governments around the world, someone is going to be violent. Develop a state-of-the-art missile defense system along our borders, and at various points around the country. We would not build any nuclear weapons of our own, so our missile system could not be mistaken for an offensive act. All citizens would also go through a emergency response class for a few weeks, detailing what to do in an environmental, nuclear, or military crisis. EDIT: After researching a bit, the first military priority would be repairing and maintenancing (Not actually a word I don't think) everything. Then getting newer and up-to-date weapons and vehicles. That's all I can think of right now.[/hide] The first part of the second quote sounds like one of my first posts you know before I became obsessed with military growth :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 That sounds good. I don't want to hold you back too long in the thread, but it would be be better if you started somewhere a bit more reasonable, and worked your way up now (like you're doing). Also, if you're looking for inspiration for something to do, look through pages 2-10 or so of the thread, that's where most people started doing what you have to do now. Here were my first two relevant posts in the thread. [hide=]Or if not, I'd pick Brazil. Tenth largest economy in the world, largest military in latin america, almost 200 million people, I'd say it has potential. Maybe I could work with Lent and his Argentinian controlled portion of South America. Mainly in the country, I'd try to end foreign exploitation, and instead allow the country to take advantage of it's own resources, which would help reduce poverty, as well as creating many new jobs, and improving old ones. The military would have to remain strong, I might even pull a north korea in having all citizens take basic training at some point, and all households would have a rifle or handgun. Less dangerous drugs like Marijuana, salvia, etc. would be legalized, but taxed. Heavier drugs like heroin, and cocaine would be regulated in that you could only get a certain amount every month, to help decrease OD's and addictions if possible. Of course people would still get them illegally, but it couldn't hurt to regulate them a bit. Heavier taxes would be imposed on the wealthy, but not cripplingly high, and lesser taxes on the poor in order to decrease poverty and help redistribute the wealth so it would not only be the elite who had money. I don't think I would try to annex any other countries, Brazil still has many national resources and a good amount of space. I would protect the rain forests if possible, or at least put aside a large amount of them that would be government land and illegal to log on or otherwise exploit. (Next post) Once then new government was put into place, the first thing we'd do would be to impose extremely heavy taxes on all foreign companies exporting our resources, to the point it becomes unprofitable and they are forced to leave the country. These taxes would give my government enough extra funds to start using our own resources for the good of our country, rather than for foreign countries' interests. The majority of the Amazon would become a preserve, and all the thousands of miles of cut-down forests, instead of just being an eyesore would become solar or wind farms, which would effectively make Brazil energy-independent. The government would fund massive urban re-organization and renewal projects, creating thousands or millions of jobs, providing better housing for the poor, and overall cleaning up the cities. Shantytowns would become a thing of the past. The overall quality of life would increase immensely for the majority of people. A long term plan would be to equip almost ever roof in the country with solar panels, which eventually would lead to a profit and an excess of power. We would sell our excess electricity to neighboring countries for a cheaper price than oil, leading to good relations with surrounding nations. We are investing a lot of our excess funds in on space travel, as well, under the project name of SAB All citizens would go through basic training, and at least 3 months of active service at some point in their life, unless they are already above 50 or a pre-existing condition prevents them. Military size would increase, but only for defense, seeing as with all the new governments around the world, someone is going to be violent. Develop a state-of-the-art missile defense system along our borders, and at various points around the country. We would not build any nuclear weapons of our own, so our missile system could not be mistaken for an offensive act. All citizens would also go through a emergency response class for a few weeks, detailing what to do in an environmental, nuclear, or military crisis. EDIT: After researching a bit, the first military priority would be repairing and maintenancing (Not actually a word I don't think) everything. Then getting newer and up-to-date weapons and vehicles. That's all I can think of right now.[/hide] The first part of the second quote sounds like one of my first posts you know before I became obsessed with military growth :lol: :| Vienna Raszyn Warsaw Klushino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walka92 Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 so...wheres the bs part of jet propulsion, exactly? and due to the highly sped up time in this game, its not unlikely for a satelite to be in positon within a few minutes. and their locations were spread so that no land mass is more than a few "hours" *(game time)* from the attack range of a satelite Well had I been in play at the time of you placing them I'd have shot them down, you don't have any decent reason for them to be there, honestly they just scream out "I WANT ABSOLUTE POWAH OVER J00!!!!!" Shoot the [bleep] out of my country, I don't care, I've relocated the majority of my population anyway. I will never, however, allow you to have such weapons. Seeing had we all been online at the same time, all attacks from your rods from god are nullified. Go on, shoot me, I dare you. waaaaaaaaaaait, how do you nullify a rod falling from space? well? they are going mach 8; much too fast for you to stop. you cant just say "that didnt work because i said so". thats not how the game works. and no, NOT all my satelites were destroyed, because there were alot still over russia to prevent ground based attacks, and they have enough defence systems onboard to destroy any other satelite that may attack in space. and can you rephrase the "don't have any decent reason for them to be there" thing? because from what it seems, you are basically telling me that the entire idea of having a network of them just for something like this is nullified by the fact that i have no reason for them to be in a place to attack...when there are always some in place for an attack and ones that arent can soon be relocated there do you realise how stupid you made yourself look btw? more of our HAHR (heavily armour humanoid robots) are being produced, and recent redeisgning has vreduced their size to a more managable level, and will be deployed immediately also, any country in the war willing to drop out now will have my protection from any further attacks on their soil if they are attacked first. agressors get no defence, though. this war is going to get us nowhere, really. i am deploying troops to all active warzones, but they are given orders not to engage in combat unless provoked; we are giving a 1 day (real time) amnesty to drop out of the war before we deploy all our normal troops, conscripted troops, exosuits, fighter planes, warships, HAHRs, and special ops soldiers with the brainchip. we have roughly 25 million conscripted soldiers and they have been given a choice that either they fight, and those who die fighting will have their families be given a big grief payout, but those who desert or betray russia....their families will be punished. its enough to keep them fighting at their best, i think. I'm gonna be walking down an alley in varrock, and walka is going to walk up to me in a trench coat and say "psst.. hey man, wanna buy some sara brew"walka92- retired with 99 in attack, strength, defence, health, magic, ranged, prayer and herblore and 137 combat. some day i may return to claim 138 combat, but alas, that time has not yet come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul191600 Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 Bulgarian diplomats have gone to Guinea to speak of joining the Bulgaria, and in exchange will provide the latest technology along with other benefits. The sour dough of the epitmous pie hungers for another's sweet lips to be dulled into a state of most irreverant humblenessTUBULAR BELLS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim_ Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 so...wheres the bs part of jet propulsion, exactly? and due to the highly sped up time in this game, its not unlikely for a satelite to be in positon within a few minutes. and their locations were spread so that no land mass is more than a few "hours" *(game time)* from the attack range of a satelite Well had I been in play at the time of you placing them I'd have shot them down, you don't have any decent reason for them to be there, honestly they just scream out "I WANT ABSOLUTE POWAH OVER J00!!!!!" Shoot the [bleep] out of my country, I don't care, I've relocated the majority of my population anyway. I will never, however, allow you to have such weapons. Seeing had we all been online at the same time, all attacks from your rods from god are nullified. Go on, shoot me, I dare you. waaaaaaaaaaait, how do you nullify a rod falling from space? well? they are going mach 8; much too fast for you to stop. you cant just say "that didnt work because i said so". thats not how the game works. and no, NOT all my satelites were destroyed, because there were alot still over russia to prevent ground based attacks, and they have enough defence systems onboard to destroy any other satelite that may attack in space. and can you rephrase the "don't have any decent reason for them to be there" thing? because from what it seems, you are basically telling me that the entire idea of having a network of them just for something like this is nullified by the fact that i have no reason for them to be in a place to attack...when there are always some in place for an attack and ones that arent can soon be relocated there do you realise how stupid you made yourself look btw? Speaking of things falling out of the sky how did you like the 150 ICBM'S I sent your way? @ Paul Japan owns guinea... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walka92 Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 so...wheres the bs part of jet propulsion, exactly? and due to the highly sped up time in this game, its not unlikely for a satelite to be in positon within a few minutes. and their locations were spread so that no land mass is more than a few "hours" *(game time)* from the attack range of a satelite Well had I been in play at the time of you placing them I'd have shot them down, you don't have any decent reason for them to be there, honestly they just scream out "I WANT ABSOLUTE POWAH OVER J00!!!!!" Shoot the [bleep] out of my country, I don't care, I've relocated the majority of my population anyway. I will never, however, allow you to have such weapons. Seeing had we all been online at the same time, all attacks from your rods from god are nullified. Go on, shoot me, I dare you. waaaaaaaaaaait, how do you nullify a rod falling from space? well? they are going mach 8; much too fast for you to stop. you cant just say "that didnt work because i said so". thats not how the game works. and no, NOT all my satelites were destroyed, because there were alot still over russia to prevent ground based attacks, and they have enough defence systems onboard to destroy any other satelite that may attack in space. and can you rephrase the "don't have any decent reason for them to be there" thing? because from what it seems, you are basically telling me that the entire idea of having a network of them just for something like this is nullified by the fact that i have no reason for them to be in a place to attack...when there are always some in place for an attack and ones that arent can soon be relocated there do you realise how stupid you made yourself look btw? Speaking of things falling out of the sky how did you like the 150 ICBM'S I sent your way? @ Paul Japan owns guinea... theres missile shields on russia, the icbm's were destroyed. maybe 4-5 hit...at most. our missile shileds are accompanied by EMP's to disrupt their targeting for those that get past I'm gonna be walking down an alley in varrock, and walka is going to walk up to me in a trench coat and say "psst.. hey man, wanna buy some sara brew"walka92- retired with 99 in attack, strength, defence, health, magic, ranged, prayer and herblore and 137 combat. some day i may return to claim 138 combat, but alas, that time has not yet come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim_ Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 so...wheres the bs part of jet propulsion, exactly? and due to the highly sped up time in this game, its not unlikely for a satelite to be in positon within a few minutes. and their locations were spread so that no land mass is more than a few "hours" *(game time)* from the attack range of a satelite Well had I been in play at the time of you placing them I'd have shot them down, you don't have any decent reason for them to be there, honestly they just scream out "I WANT ABSOLUTE POWAH OVER J00!!!!!" Shoot the [bleep] out of my country, I don't care, I've relocated the majority of my population anyway. I will never, however, allow you to have such weapons. Seeing had we all been online at the same time, all attacks from your rods from god are nullified. Go on, shoot me, I dare you. waaaaaaaaaaait, how do you nullify a rod falling from space? well? they are going mach 8; much too fast for you to stop. you cant just say "that didnt work because i said so". thats not how the game works. and no, NOT all my satelites were destroyed, because there were alot still over russia to prevent ground based attacks, and they have enough defence systems onboard to destroy any other satelite that may attack in space. and can you rephrase the "don't have any decent reason for them to be there" thing? because from what it seems, you are basically telling me that the entire idea of having a network of them just for something like this is nullified by the fact that i have no reason for them to be in a place to attack...when there are always some in place for an attack and ones that arent can soon be relocated there do you realise how stupid you made yourself look btw? Speaking of things falling out of the sky how did you like the 150 ICBM'S I sent your way? @ Paul Japan owns guinea... theres missile shields on russia, the icbm's were destroyed. maybe 4-5 hit...at most. our missile shileds are accompanied by EMP's to disrupt their targeting for those that get past Yeah use EMPS you just shut down most of your country :roll: (to the best of my knowledge those things spread wide when detonated up high) so if im right you just did more damage to yourself than what the missiles would have done =D> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walka92 Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 so...wheres the bs part of jet propulsion, exactly? and due to the highly sped up time in this game, its not unlikely for a satelite to be in positon within a few minutes. and their locations were spread so that no land mass is more than a few "hours" *(game time)* from the attack range of a satelite Well had I been in play at the time of you placing them I'd have shot them down, you don't have any decent reason for them to be there, honestly they just scream out "I WANT ABSOLUTE POWAH OVER J00!!!!!" Shoot the [bleep] out of my country, I don't care, I've relocated the majority of my population anyway. I will never, however, allow you to have such weapons. Seeing had we all been online at the same time, all attacks from your rods from god are nullified. Go on, shoot me, I dare you. waaaaaaaaaaait, how do you nullify a rod falling from space? well? they are going mach 8; much too fast for you to stop. you cant just say "that didnt work because i said so". thats not how the game works. and no, NOT all my satelites were destroyed, because there were alot still over russia to prevent ground based attacks, and they have enough defence systems onboard to destroy any other satelite that may attack in space. and can you rephrase the "don't have any decent reason for them to be there" thing? because from what it seems, you are basically telling me that the entire idea of having a network of them just for something like this is nullified by the fact that i have no reason for them to be in a place to attack...when there are always some in place for an attack and ones that arent can soon be relocated there do you realise how stupid you made yourself look btw? Speaking of things falling out of the sky how did you like the 150 ICBM'S I sent your way? @ Paul Japan owns guinea... theres missile shields on russia, the icbm's were destroyed. maybe 4-5 hit...at most. our missile shileds are accompanied by EMP's to disrupt their targeting for those that get past Yeah use EMPS you just shut down most of your country :roll: (to the best of my knowledge those things spread wide when detonated up high) so if im right you just did more damage to yourself than what the missiles would have done =D> no, the emps are located away from major cities, and they arent needed very often, maybe 1-2% of the time, when the missile destroying lasers and intercept missiles fail. and it wouldnt "shut down most of my country", mainly because its so spread out, a couple of EMP's does well....hardly anything. at most, a couple of farmhouses had a blackout. lol I'm gonna be walking down an alley in varrock, and walka is going to walk up to me in a trench coat and say "psst.. hey man, wanna buy some sara brew"walka92- retired with 99 in attack, strength, defence, health, magic, ranged, prayer and herblore and 137 combat. some day i may return to claim 138 combat, but alas, that time has not yet come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul191600 Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 so...wheres the bs part of jet propulsion, exactly? and due to the highly sped up time in this game, its not unlikely for a satelite to be in positon within a few minutes. and their locations were spread so that no land mass is more than a few "hours" *(game time)* from the attack range of a satelite Well had I been in play at the time of you placing them I'd have shot them down, you don't have any decent reason for them to be there, honestly they just scream out "I WANT ABSOLUTE POWAH OVER J00!!!!!" Shoot the [bleep] out of my country, I don't care, I've relocated the majority of my population anyway. I will never, however, allow you to have such weapons. Seeing had we all been online at the same time, all attacks from your rods from god are nullified. Go on, shoot me, I dare you. waaaaaaaaaaait, how do you nullify a rod falling from space? well? they are going mach 8; much too fast for you to stop. you cant just say "that didnt work because i said so". thats not how the game works. and no, NOT all my satelites were destroyed, because there were alot still over russia to prevent ground based attacks, and they have enough defence systems onboard to destroy any other satelite that may attack in space. and can you rephrase the "don't have any decent reason for them to be there" thing? because from what it seems, you are basically telling me that the entire idea of having a network of them just for something like this is nullified by the fact that i have no reason for them to be in a place to attack...when there are always some in place for an attack and ones that arent can soon be relocated there do you realise how stupid you made yourself look btw? Speaking of things falling out of the sky how did you like the 150 ICBM'S I sent your way? @ Paul Japan owns guinea... Guinea is in Africa, and I don't see it marked as anyone's territory. You are probably thinking of new Guinea also. I am talking about Guinea. The sour dough of the epitmous pie hungers for another's sweet lips to be dulled into a state of most irreverant humblenessTUBULAR BELLS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walka92 Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 for those in the war, what exactly do you hope to accomplish? me and germania had not incited any anger from you recently, and we had, for the most part, taken unclaimed land only, so its not like we were really hurting anyone. you arent going to be able to take russia or germania, not by a long shot. all this will do is end up with people having superpowered weapons and even more superpowered ways of stopping them. these sorts of things will kill the thread, its just gotten out of hand. tl;dr. i would like to call a general end to the war before it kills the thread I'm gonna be walking down an alley in varrock, and walka is going to walk up to me in a trench coat and say "psst.. hey man, wanna buy some sara brew"walka92- retired with 99 in attack, strength, defence, health, magic, ranged, prayer and herblore and 137 combat. some day i may return to claim 138 combat, but alas, that time has not yet come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RpgGamer Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 so...wheres the bs part of jet propulsion, exactly? and due to the highly sped up time in this game, its not unlikely for a satelite to be in positon within a few minutes. and their locations were spread so that no land mass is more than a few "hours" *(game time)* from the attack range of a satelite Well had I been in play at the time of you placing them I'd have shot them down, you don't have any decent reason for them to be there, honestly they just scream out "I WANT ABSOLUTE POWAH OVER J00!!!!!" Shoot the [bleep] out of my country, I don't care, I've relocated the majority of my population anyway. I will never, however, allow you to have such weapons. Seeing had we all been online at the same time, all attacks from your rods from god are nullified. Go on, shoot me, I dare you. waaaaaaaaaaait, how do you nullify a rod falling from space? well? they are going mach 8; much too fast for you to stop. you cant just say "that didnt work because i said so". thats not how the game works. and no, NOT all my satelites were destroyed, because there were alot still over russia to prevent ground based attacks, and they have enough defence systems onboard to destroy any other satelite that may attack in space. and can you rephrase the "don't have any decent reason for them to be there" thing? because from what it seems, you are basically telling me that the entire idea of having a network of them just for something like this is nullified by the fact that i have no reason for them to be in a place to attack...when there are always some in place for an attack and ones that arent can soon be relocated there do you realise how stupid you made yourself look btw? Speaking of things falling out of the sky how did you like the 150 ICBM'S I sent your way? @ Paul Japan owns guinea... theres missile shields on russia, the icbm's were destroyed. maybe 4-5 hit...at most. our missile shileds are accompanied by EMP's to disrupt their targeting for those that get past Yeah use EMPS you just shut down most of your country :roll: (to the best of my knowledge those things spread wide when detonated up high) so if im right you just did more damage to yourself than what the missiles would have done =D> no, the emps are located away from major cities, and they arent needed very often, maybe 1-2% of the time, when the missile destroying lasers and intercept missiles fail. and it wouldnt "shut down most of my country", mainly because its so spread out, a couple of EMP's does well....hardly anything. at most, a couple of farmhouses had a blackout. lol I'm gonna take my seat as secondary war judge for a second. walka, I don't think you understand what an EMP is exactly. ICBMs were launched at you. okay. You shoot most of them down using sheilding and EMPs. Fine. These ICBMs were obviously aimed at major cities. Or atleast military bases. Now, if you were using EMPs to deflect the missles (more like deactivate) yoou would have to have very very accurate EMP launchers. Otherwise they're on the ground. That would imply that you just hit whatever you were defending with an EMP blast. Although that isn't actual damage, it's certainly an inconvienience since it shuts down communication. Quote Quote Anyone who likes tacos is incapable of logic. Anyone who likes logic is incapable of tacos. PSA: SaqPrets is an Estonian Dude Steam: NippleBeardTM Origin: Brand_New_iPwn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walka92 Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 I'm gonna take my seat as secondary war judge for a second. walka, I don't think you understand what an EMP is exactly. ICBMs were launched at you. okay. You shoot most of them down using sheilding and EMPs. Fine. These ICBMs were obviously aimed at major cities. Or atleast military bases. Now, if you were using EMPs to deflect the missles (more like deactivate) yoou would have to have very very accurate EMP launchers. Otherwise they're on the ground. That would imply that you just hit whatever you were defending with an EMP blast. Although that isn't actual damage, it's certainly an inconvienience since it shuts down communication. well first off, its pretty much impossible to get through the missile shield unseen. given that, we can calculate the speed and direction of the missile and launch an emp at its projected area and detonate the EMP near it. because of the 98-99% accuracy of the lasers and intercept missiles, as i said, very few emps were needed. and we are careful not to put emps near any major areas (cities, military bases, infastructure). think of it as basically 2 rings around russias borders. one with the detection systems and lasers to damage and destroy icbm, and a second one, linked to the first, that gives the signal to launch an emp as the missile is approaching. these emps dont have a very large blast area. big enough to disrupt targeting on an ICMB but not enough to cause serious problems to russian cities, towns etc, because it wont reach that far I'm gonna be walking down an alley in varrock, and walka is going to walk up to me in a trench coat and say "psst.. hey man, wanna buy some sara brew"walka92- retired with 99 in attack, strength, defence, health, magic, ranged, prayer and herblore and 137 combat. some day i may return to claim 138 combat, but alas, that time has not yet come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 Guinea is in Africa, and I don't see it marked as anyone's territory. You are probably thinking of new Guinea also. I am talking about Guinea. I'm currently in diplomatic talks with Guinea. Or it is already part of Germania, idk which. It's part of the land deal me and Brazil signed over the unclaimed countries in Africa, to prevent any conflict between me and Brazil. I'll update the map tommorow morning (or likely - afternoon) when I wake up. Vienna Raszyn Warsaw Klushino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul191600 Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 Guinea is in Africa, and I don't see it marked as anyone's territory. You are probably thinking of new Guinea also. I am talking about Guinea. I'm currently in diplomatic talks with Guinea. Or it is already part of Germania, idk which. It's part of the land deal me and Brazil signed over the unclaimed countries in Africa, to prevent any conflict between me and Brazil. I'll update the map tommorow morning (or likely - afternoon) when I wake up. Oh, It was marked as unclaimed on the map, so I figured that it for grabs. The sour dough of the epitmous pie hungers for another's sweet lips to be dulled into a state of most irreverant humblenessTUBULAR BELLS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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