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[Wisp]

I say teleportation into space is allowed, but not into enemy terrority. Just so we don't have to wait 2 year real life time to be able to reach a planet.

 

I agree with this, for the sake of playability. But restricted, like say teleporting divides the time it would take by 10?

 

 

 

I say it takes 10 years to reach a planet outside of the solar system, seeing as the majority of tipit doesn't know and doesn't want to research exactly how far away some planets are. Hell, we're going to be inventing some planets.

 

There are over 20 star systems within 12 lightyears. For god sakes, that's more than enough.

 

 

 

A light year is 5,865,696,000,000 miles. Even if we could travel 10,000 mph, it would still take us 5,865,696,00 years to get just one lightyear, nevermind 12.

 

1: In real life we can already travel way faster than 10,000 mph.

 

In game, we already have been able to get things to "close" to lightspeed.

[a_bert]

NO THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE

 

 

 

I'm fine with it

 

 

 

EDIT: When did we go over 10k mph? I thought the record was around 8000

[Nero]

I'm fine with that, but it kind of negates all the money I've poured into research. Why can't we just build something like this, instead of just finding it derelict in the galaxy?

 

 

 

 

That works, but I say there's more than 10 areas (in this case, area = solar system). I'd say 15 would be optimal, and it would increase it we got tons of players suddenly. Also, I think someone (someone with no life) should draw up a schematic with a description of each area, planets, their resources, distance from the hub, etc. and then we pick names from a hat deciding who gets first pick, second pick, etc. of the systems.

 

I think 5 hubs is way more then should be. 3 would be my suggestion.

[Wisp]

NO THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE

 

 

 

I'm fine with it

 

 

 

EDIT: When did we go over 10k mph? I thought the record was around 8000

 

I think it's some deep space probe. It might have 10k kilometers per hour though, I forget.

 

But, we can say that they're worm holes, because that doesn't completely rape the laws of physics. It only rapes them a little.

 

Area does not mean solar system, for what I was thinking of. I was thinking there would be no solar systems within 1 light year of where the hub gets out, so that way there couldn't be sneak attacks that easily, and then there are 10 solar systems within the area. It's not like only one person can be at each one.

 

And dusty, how about this, so your money doesn't go to waste. We find evidence that the hub exists, and we find an artifact that allows us to reach it, but we need to build some sort of superstructure type thing in order to use it.

[Seraphi]

[hide=Teh plan]

while flying to mars, our space crew discovered a parallel universe, in which light moves at 15x the normal speed. it can only be entered through certian rips, believed to be created by a planets moons.

 

 

 

Does that solve your problems?

 

No, that's incredibly stupid.

 

 

 

Here was my idea.

 

My idea makes sense to whoever's played mass effect.

 

Basically, we find some artifact/thing that let's us travel (basically) instantaneously to a hub. The hub is in the middle of nothingness (maybe in between two galaxies.) From the hub we can go to a set number of different areas. Each area will have atleast 3 habitable planets, and ten solar systems within 10 lightyears of where the hub takes you. And there would be only 5-10 areas. The thing to get to the hub would be atleast 5 lightyears away from earth, so it takes some research to get there. Each area is far enough from all the others that we would never reach them within a thousand years atleast of lightspeed travel.

 

Now, like in mass effect, there is no ftl travel other than these transporters (I don't know what to call them), so you are pretty much contained to the 10 lightyear area around where it comes out.

 

This is kind of hard to explain with words so I drew a crappy picture.

 

We wouldn't "discover" this for a while, but if we ever need to, we could.

 

Is this ok with all?

 

[/hide]

 

I say we call them warp rifts or something.

 

Make them neutral zones, with no combat allowed within 3/4 lightyear of each hub?

 

 

 

Will there be multiple hubs, eventually?

 

 

 

Think about it, if this game goes far enough, individual countries will no longer matter, since each planet will be owned by a single person, so multiple hubs would be required, most likely.

 

 

 

Aside from those tiny problems, I like the idea.

 

 

 

EDIT: 2 new page starts in a row ftw.

[Wisp]

There would be one hub, which leads to all the other rifts, or whatever. If someone wanted to try to claim the hub they could, but it would be hard to defend.

[Seraphi]

There would be one hub, which leads to all the other rifts, or whatever. If someone wanted to try to claim the hub they could, but it would be hard to defend.

 

Ah, I see what you're saying:

 

 

 

 

 

Each rift goes to the middle of nowhere.

 

 

 

In the middle of nowhere, there are a lot more rifts, which lead to other solar systems.

 

 

 

Each rift is two-way, and the hub would be almost impossible to defend due to the amount of rifts there would be, correct?

 

Why don't we just make a pact that the hub shall remain a neutral zone, with no combat near it?

[jasignhagj]

while flying to mars, our space crew discovered a parallel universe, in which light moves at 15x the normal speed. it can only be entered through certian rips, believed to be created by a planets moons.

 

 

 

Does that solve your problems?

 

No, that's incredibly stupid.

 

 

 

Here was my idea.

 

My idea makes sense to whoever's played mass effect.

 

Basically, we find some artifact/thing that let's us travel (basically) instantaneously to a hub. The hub is in the middle of nothingness (maybe in between two galaxies.) From the hub we can go to a set number of different areas. Each area will have atleast 3 habitable planets, and ten solar systems within 10 lightyears of where the hub takes you. And there would be only 5-10 areas. The thing to get to the hub would be atleast 5 lightyears away from earth, so it takes some research to get there. Each area is far enough from all the others that we would never reach them within a thousand years atleast of lightspeed travel.

 

Now, like in mass effect, there is no ftl travel other than these transporters (I don't know what to call them), so you are pretty much contained to the 10 lightyear area around where it comes out.

 

This is kind of hard to explain with words so I drew a crappy picture.

 

We wouldn't "discover" this for a while, but if we ever need to, we could.

 

Is this ok with all?

 

 

 

 

THAT makes more sense? sounds like something from harry potter

[indy500fan]

As for outdated, considering no one here in this thread research fighter jets, I'll say I still have the best fighter jets in the world.

 

 

 

I know this is from page 153, but I am working on getting caught up. Anything between then and this post I haven't read yet.

 

 

 

I have been researching aircraft technology since the first day of this game, so I am positive I have the best aircraft in the world.

 

 

 

/more to come in a bit

[Wisp]

while flying to mars, our space crew discovered a parallel universe, in which light moves at 15x the normal speed. it can only be entered through certian rips, believed to be created by a planets moons.

 

 

 

Does that solve your problems?

 

No, that's incredibly stupid.

 

 

 

Here was my idea.

 

My idea makes sense to whoever's played mass effect.

 

Basically, we find some artifact/thing that let's us travel (basically) instantaneously to a hub. The hub is in the middle of nothingness (maybe in between two galaxies.) From the hub we can go to a set number of different areas. Each area will have atleast 3 habitable planets, and ten solar systems within 10 lightyears of where the hub takes you. And there would be only 5-10 areas. The thing to get to the hub would be atleast 5 lightyears away from earth, so it takes some research to get there. Each area is far enough from all the others that we would never reach them within a thousand years atleast of lightspeed travel.

 

Now, like in mass effect, there is no ftl travel other than these transporters (I don't know what to call them), so you are pretty much contained to the 10 lightyear area around where it comes out.

 

This is kind of hard to explain with words so I drew a crappy picture.

 

We wouldn't "discover" this for a while, but if we ever need to, we could.

 

Is this ok with all?

 

 

 

 

THAT makes more sense? sounds like something from harry potter

 

Actually, it does. Ever heard of the theory of wormholes? Magical rips in space caused by moons makes more sense? Last I checked harry potter wasn't [bleep]ing around with the time-space continuum.

 

And from my knowledge of it, the maximum speed for things with mass (just below light speed) is not set by how fast light travels, but instead light is restrained by that speed, if that makes sense. So if the speed of light was 15x faster in another dimension, that wouldn't help us at all, since we'd still have to be able to have an infinite amount of energy (See Einstein's special relativity theory) in order to reach that speed.

 

Germany has good fighter interceptors, and I have hypersonic bombers, which can be converted to fighters at any Brazilian air force base.

[Hedgehog]

Seeing as how Dusty is now ignoring my post, an invisible, failure of a counter attack is posted under me. Since Dusty has moved a bunch of troops in the worthless Belarus, more forces have moved into Berlin. ICBM's have been dropped near the main control center to cripple missile and national defense. Citizens of Berlin have been moved all around Scandinavian Findenland where they will be protected while the war rages. Farmland outside of Berlin is being burnt down. Large skyscrapers devoid of people are being knocked down by CN1's. Smaller buildings are being set on fire one by one.

 

 

 

Efforts have majorly been stepped up in the Tunisian war, other African countries are being urged to revolt as well.

 

 

 

Don't worry about any property damage, I will repay you later.

 

 

 

Also, why pretending to be a Jedi inside of an airplane over Berlin, I dropped my lightsaber over the capital. Needless to say, it broke.

[Wisp]

Seeing as how Dusty is now ignoring my post, an invisible, failure of a counter attack is posted under me. Since Dusty has moved a bunch of troops in the worthless Belarus, more forces have moved into Berlin. ICBM's have been dropped near the main control center to cripple missile and national defense. Citizens of Berlin have been moved all around Scandinavian Findenland where they will be protected while the war rages. Farmland outside of Berlin is being burnt down. Large skyscrapers devoid of people are being knocked down by CN1's. Smaller buildings are being set on fire one by one.

 

 

 

Efforts have majorly been stepped up in the Tunisian war, other African countries are being urged to revolt as well.

 

 

 

Don't worry about any property damage, I will repay you later.

 

 

 

Also, why pretending to be a Jedi inside of an airplane over Berlin, I dropped my lightsaber over the capital. Needless to say, it broke.

 

So remind me how you got anyone to berlin again? How is a tank knocking down buildings? How are the icbm's getting through his shield? And you don't "drop" icbm's. Hell, you don't even need to use icbm's for germany, same continent.

 

How did you manage to move millions of extremely loyal citizens out of berlin?

[Latinoking]

I'm currently training 100 million soldiers for my borders against Russia.

 

 

 

Also, I'll like to thank RPGgamer for weapons.

 

 

 

To Latino:

 

Having 25 million troops fully trained is not all that unrealistic, considering the number of wars Germania has been involved in. I never claimed that the other portions are trained though. A deal has been made with another country to supply weapons to my new recruits though (as to stay within the realm of realism). Supplying as many troops I have isn't that hard either, since they're all based on home ground, so the supply lines aren't under attack constantly.

 

Where are all these 25 million troops? I presume that they are all scatter throughout Germania, if they aren't. It's not realistic. I'll let the war judge handle this.

 

 

 

Africa-Germania war news:

 

 

 

Germanian troops are retreating following massive attacks by Jerusalem and Luxembourg. They've adopted a scorched Earth policy, so I'd be quite careful of advancing too far into Germanian land, as you'd soon find yourself without enough food or water to supply your troops.

 

 

 

Germania has also sent around 50,000 troops to reinforce Greenland, and another 15,000 to Iceland. Another 2,000 are dotted across the arctic isles.

 

I've yet to use actual land army in Africa-Germania. So nice job by killing your own people. As I'm still simply Air Force.

 

 

 

As for outdated, considering no one here in this thread research fighter jets, I'll say I still have the best fighter jets in the world.

 

 

 

I know this is from page 153, but I am working on getting caught up. Anything between then and this post I haven't read yet.

 

 

 

I have been researching aircraft technology since the first day of this game, so I am positive I have the best aircraft in the world.

 

 

 

/more to come in a bit

 

Oh really? Considering China has been working on J-XX and I have yet to unveil it...I won't get too ahead of myself.

 

 

 

Actually, he blew up the ship after I returned it to Latino.

 

Oh well I lost a hangar? No big deal. Being repair as I type.

 

 

 

I'll use God.

 

Nah, I'll use my Christian God. Muslims/Jewish/Buddhists are praying for their god for protection. They are all sending me a present soon.

[Hedgehog]

Seeing as how Dusty is now ignoring my post, an invisible, failure of a counter attack is posted under me. Since Dusty has moved a bunch of troops in the worthless Belarus, more forces have moved into Berlin. ICBM's have been dropped near the main control center to cripple missile and national defense. Citizens of Berlin have been moved all around Scandinavian Findenland where they will be protected while the war rages. Farmland outside of Berlin is being burnt down. Large skyscrapers devoid of people are being knocked down by CN1's. Smaller buildings are being set on fire one by one.

 

 

 

Efforts have majorly been stepped up in the Tunisian war, other African countries are being urged to revolt as well.

 

 

 

Don't worry about any property damage, I will repay you later.

 

 

 

Also, why pretending to be a Jedi inside of an airplane over Berlin, I dropped my lightsaber over the capital. Needless to say, it broke.

 

So remind me how you got anyone to berlin again? How is a tank knocking down buildings? How are the icbm's getting through his shield? And you don't "drop" icbm's. Hell, you don't even need to use icbm's for germany, same continent.

 

I'm not sure. I think they launch explosive out of its trunk into the foundation of the building. Tbh, I don't even know what an ICBM is. I just figured they were a bomb or something. I just dropped some sort of bombs on Germany.

 

I floated the armies from Sweden, then through rivers at night, shooting down any missiles shot at us using a mini laser protector. Don't deny the existence of them, because they definitely exist at this point in time.

[Nero]

So remind me how you got anyone to berlin again? How is a tank knocking down buildings? How are the icbm's getting through his shield? And you don't "drop" icbm's. Hell, you don't even need to use icbm's for germany, same continent.

 

How did you manage to move millions of extremely loyal citizens out of berlin?

 

 

 

I've already told him I'm just going to ignore all his posts if he doesn't stick to some semblance of realism. He's been sending me a slew of idiotic messages saying how he's toppled my government and my empire is in anarchy or some other such stupidity. Findenland poses no threat to Germania, considering his military consists of really nothing other then a mass of militia troops.

 

 

 

Where are all these 25 million troops? I presume that they are all scatter throughout Germania, if they aren't. It's not realistic. I'll let the war judge handle this.

 

You do know that Germania spans across 3 different continents, right?

 

 

 

I've yet to use actual land army in Africa-Germania. So nice job by killing your own people. As I'm still simply Air Force.

 

Cute. Except you've already stated you've been attacking my land with ground troops. An attack with only your air force is pointless, considering they'd just be destroyed by my SAM and AA sites.

 

 

 

Oh really? Considering China has been working on J-XX and I have yet to unveil it...I won't get too ahead of myself.

 

Oh really? Let's see the post where you started this research.

 

 

 

Oh well I lost a hangar? No big deal. Being repair as I type.

 

A hangar, and a ship you paid $100b for.

[Hedgehog]

So remind me how you got anyone to berlin again? How is a tank knocking down buildings? How are the icbm's getting through his shield? And you don't "drop" icbm's. Hell, you don't even need to use icbm's for germany, same continent.

 

How did you manage to move millions of extremely loyal citizens out of berlin?

 

 

 

I've already told him I'm just going to ignore all his posts if he doesn't stick to some semblance of realism. He's been sending me a slew of idiotic messages saying how he's toppled my government and my empire is in anarchy or some other such stupidity. Findenland poses no threat to Germania, considering his military consists of really nothing other then a mass of militia troops.

 

You are the one being idiotic.

 

 

 

[hide=pm's]"If you really want to know, I didn't buy it as a vacation spot. I had arranged with the leaders an alliance to defeat you. I would "buy" the country, knowing you would want it. When the time came, I would order a revolt. Thats exactly what happened.

 

 

 

As for getting troops to Berlin, it was as easy as I said it was. I control almost all of the Baltic sea, only a few miles off Germany is yours. I could easily move my troops past that space before you realized I was there. As for getting my troops to Berlin, I followed the river into Germania. That's not very hard in the cover of darkness after all your guards have gone nightynight."

 

 

 

"I have a 5.75m man army. They are all well trained. I don't see where you are getting the 8 million man untrained army thing. My army is one of the best trained in the world, having been trained since elementary school. Only 300 men were lost in the crossing, not 40% of my military. Even if you had killed 40%, I'd still have 180,000 of the 300,000 men I sent in your city."

 

 

 

"I make a valid point and you deny it, saying I don't make any sense at all. You are just afraid to lose.

 

 

 

Your precious empire of over 5000 completely different ethnic isn't working? I'd better ignore those people that point it out, or I have no shot at keeping it together. No, wait, don't invade my country! I, uhmm, uhmm I have a superduper laser ray! I dare you to get past that!

 

 

 

No. I got past your stupid failure of a defense, and I may just win this war. Except the truth, or keep procrastinating, either works."

 

 

 

"Germania has entered Belarus, only to find no one in sight. The soldiers receive a call on the radio saying that, in their absence, Berlin has been completely bum rushed, and is nearly in ruins."[/hide]

 

 

 

Those were my pm's. A bit idiotic, but all still way more realistic than Germania's. He lacks strategy and is falling straight into my plan, just as I planned it. You are almost past the point of no return.

[Wisp]

Here's a map of Germany's rivers.

 

No rivers large enough to fit any military boat connect to the baltic sea. For you to have gone into norway's waters, you would have had to go by all of my boats.

 

[Nero]

[hide=pm's]"If you really want to know, I didn't buy it as a vacation spot. I had arranged with the leaders an alliance to defeat you. I would "buy" the country, knowing you would want it. When the time came, I would order a revolt. Thats exactly what happened.

 

 

 

As for getting troops to Berlin, it was as easy as I said it was. I control almost all of the Baltic sea, only a few miles off Germany is yours. I could easily move my troops past that space before you realized I was there. As for getting my troops to Berlin, I followed the river into Germania. That's not very hard in the cover of darkness after all your guards have gone nightynight."

 

 

 

"I have a 5.75m man army. They are all well trained. I don't see where you are getting the 8 million man untrained army thing. My army is one of the best trained in the world, having been trained since elementary school. Only 300 men were lost in the crossing, not 40% of my military. Even if you had killed 40%, I'd still have 180,000 of the 300,000 men I sent in your city."

 

 

 

"I make a valid point and you deny it, saying I don't make any sense at all. You are just afraid to lose.

 

 

 

Your precious empire of over 5000 completely different ethnic isn't working? I'd better ignore those people that point it out, or I have no shot at keeping it together. No, wait, don't invade my country! I, uhmm, uhmm I have a superduper laser ray! I dare you to get past that!

 

 

 

No. I got past your stupid failure of a defense, and I may just win this war. Except the truth, or keep procrastinating, either works."

 

 

 

"Germania has entered Belarus, only to find no one in sight. The soldiers receive a call on the radio saying that, in their absence, Berlin has been completely bum rushed, and is nearly in ruins."[/hide]

 

Since you didn't bother to post my reply, I'll do that for you ;)

 

I only wrote 1 reply to the 5 or so messages you sent me, since they were all just completely ridiculous strategies that would never work IRL.

 

 

 

This was my response:

 

[hide=]

So, your troops just waltzed across Germanian controlled seas, somehow magically snuck past my shoreline defenses, and then walked right into the most heavily defended city on Earth "easy peasy"? Tell me, do you really see this as in any way possible?

 

And you have no influence in Tunisia. Aside from the ludicrousness of "buying" Tunisia for $50b (Tunisia's annual GDP is 83b), you had it for like 2 weeks in-game. I've had it for years. The people won't revolt against me, especially when I've been creating jobs and removing corruption, not to mention actually protecting them. All you wanted it for was for a tourist spot - how ridiculous is that?

[/hide]

[Wisp]

That river from the baltic is at several points under 20 feet wide, and there are multiple bridges that would have had to been opened for you to pass.

[Hedgehog]

Here's a map of Germany's rivers.

 

No rivers large enough to fit any military boat connect to the baltic sea. For you to have gone into norway's waters, you would have had to go by all of my boats.

 

 

Hmm, I will need to use my time machine to create a new plan.

 

 

 

Ok, they have been airlifted into Berlin. In stealth planes in the dead of the night when the people at the plane-shootdown building were asleep.

[Wisp]

Alright, ignoring logic then, the Brazilian empire has secretly been a spaceship this whole time, and has now lifted into space.

[Latinoking]

You do know that Germania spans across 3 different continents, right?

 

Thanks for the clarification.

 

 

 

Cute. Except you've already stated you've been attacking my land with ground troops. An attack with only your air force is pointless, considering they'd just be destroyed by my SAM and AA sites.

 

The only thing remotely thing that was sent was drones by Iran. LMAO @ thinking some SAMs and AA sites can take down Raptor-F22s and Eurofighters.

 

 

 

Drones get hungry now??

 

 

 

Oh really? Let's see the post where you started this research.

 

http://www.sinodefence.com/airforce/fighter/jxx.asp

 

 

 

[hide=Pic][/hide]

[Hedgehog]

Alright, ignoring logic then, the Brazilian empire has secretly been a spaceship this whole time, and has now lifted into space.

 

The water that rushed into the area where Brazil was completely drained the Baltic Sea, allowing more troops to rush straight into Berlin.

 

I like playing this way.

[Latinoking]

Alright, ignoring logic then, the Brazilian empire has secretly been a spaceship this whole time, and has now lifted into space.

 

Can God help me win this war?

[Wisp]

It also caused a rush of water from the arctic ocean to drown the entire continent.

 

 

 

Latino, maybe dusty could start ragnarok so we can have a battle of the gods.