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[Nero]

As for your whining about nobody caring about Brazil, you went and said "We come [bleep] your army and make you part of us." Then you completely ignore the fact that a rebellion can, and will, severely mess with your army. Ever watched V for Vendetta? 1 man destroyed an entire government. Equilibrium - 1 man brought down the control he once obediently served. While they are movies, you must remember that the whole time you were the Fourth Reich everyone especially the Germans would have hated you. You should have been killed on sight for using that name by your own people, yet we let you continue, so quit complaining about Brazil.

 

 

 

Who was whining? I was just bringing it up to show you the ridiculous justification you have for going to war with me. I went the more realistic route - military conquest. You can't just diplomatically take over 20% of the world. And let's see, V for Vendetta and Equilibrium, lol. V for Vendetta is based of off Guy Fawkes and the gunpowder plot, which was a miserable failure. Equilibrium was the biggest stretch in imagination I've ever seen. Besides, our citizens aren't being led by a conveniently exposable lie that could collapse the empire - a la Equilibrium.

 

And as for The Fourth Reich, do you not think Latino would've found it impossible to gain control of the middle east as "The Holy Empire of Jerusalem" and a christian state? Ha!

[walka92]

Could I please have a summery of the last 20 pages, plus the latest Mars and Earth maps please? I was away all weekend and passed out on Sun from lack of sleep so I haven't caught up. Any action against Australia hasn't happened yet due to the game rule of me being able to defend myself. I would like a semi-detailed list if possible, all I know is something about rods from god and an attack on Japan.

 

 

 

EDIT: Walka, just so you know, to fire the RFD you have to wait till they are over Japan, which could take a while, plus making them too heavy means they they have to be positioned so they won't crash into earth of fly away (eventually they will do either one anyway) plus after launching the first lot everyone would be evacuated if they weren't already. Then there is the fact that the moment you do alot of countries would attempt to take all of them down. (If someone has said all this already I am sorry)

 

the satelites are highly mobile and could get to japan very fast, and i can have satelites over any target within an hour or two, due to how many i have and how evenly they are spread out. and they were launched onto japan as soon as the war started; it was my first attack and they hadnt even declared war on me officially, so they had no real reason to evac eveyrone straight away. and it would be impossible to get everyone evacuated before it hits...if anyone. lol and they do have defenses to prevent attacks, and alot are stationed in gep-sync orbit over russia, where defences are strongest. so no, they wern't all destroyed

 

The satellite is heavy, therefore it will need to be very far from the Earth, which would then mean that for it to travel to Japan it could take a while depending on it's location. Don't try any jet propulsion BS either.

 

 

 

 

so...wheres the bs part of jet propulsion, exactly? and due to the highly sped up time in this game, its not unlikely for a satelite to be in positon within a few minutes. and their locations were spread so that no land mass is more than a few "hours" *(game time)* from the attack range of a satelite

[Seraphi]

Indeed... I am really begginning to have second thoughts about world war IV, and, rereading the reasons we have for fighting, very few of them are justifiable.

 

Dusty did indeed say that he was not planning to expand much more, I seem to remember him saying so.

 

I guess revenge drives people to do crazy things...

 

 

 

Alrighty, I'm commanding all of my drones to stay still until somebody can persuade me to either step out, or keep fighting.

 

I'm not withdrawing because I'm losing, either, Human losses for Aether are barely into the 2000 mark.

 

 

 

Bleh, might as well add that the dyson fragment is nearly finished.

 

 

 

I'm going to dump a ton of money into the restoration of Japan now, as well.

[a_bert]

@Walka, you're an [wagon]. You can't just ignore all of the mediator's (Doom's) post just because your win button isn't actually a win button.

 

 

 

I concede that 3 million people have died in Tokyo and heavy infrastructure damage has occured. Yes, evacuations had "begun" but it's unrealistic to say the city was deserted. - Aside from the fact that the ARC cannons are intelligent enough to prioritise which RDG's to shoot; and aside from the fact that the unnecessary murder of 3 civilians is a war crime in anyones book.

 

 

 

Removing the wreckage took 3 months and a river of tears; harsh vengeance will be enacted.

 

 

 

@Dusty

 

 

 

>2045

 

>naval fleet

 

>larger ships

 

>room for more troops

 

 

 

All the same, will drop the number of troops being transported to 800,000. They're joining the forces of Jerusalem now, and are attacking your African territories. 20,000 of these are in exo-jump suits, marauding your patrols.

 

 

 

As a result of Russia's actions, the citizens of my empire are flocking to recruiting stations. In another 2 years or so, our military will have another 2 million trained troops.

 

 

 

We're launching amphibious assaults on Russia's sea ports near the Japanese mainland, around 200,000 troops at various points along your coast.

 

 

 

We're nearing completion of a top secret aircraft [somewhat like the one in Doctor Who: Sound of the drums, can't find a pic], it cost us 800 million to build and we've been building it ever since we got our hands on some high end technology. It's decked out with 20,000 personnel, full plasma shielding generated by two nuclear cores, and confidential weaponry.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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If this war is to work, people need to man the [bleep] up and accept that SOMETIMES YOU'RE GOING TO LOSE. Dusty, I don't see how you can even withstand however many god damn drones Ross has launched at you; in most military commanders books it would make sense to withdraw and tunnel the drones into a smaller space so they have less room to move around and kill.

 

 

 

@rocco Sorry, peaceful expansion for a month seems like great fun I wish I was more like you.

[Seraphi]

Okay, I think I have decided my next course of action.

 

Aether will withdraw from the war, however, I will supply my allies (Mainly Japan) who are fighting with drones to use as they wish.

 

Whichever desicion they make WILL NOT be influenced by me.

[Furah]

 

so...wheres the bs part of jet propulsion, exactly? and due to the highly sped up time in this game, its not unlikely for a satelite to be in positon within a few minutes. and their locations were spread so that no land mass is more than a few "hours" *(game time)* from the attack range of a satelite

 

Well had I been in play at the time of you placing them I'd have shot them down, you don't have any decent reason for them to be there, honestly they just scream out "I WANT ABSOLUTE POWAH OVER J00!!!!!" Shoot the [bleep] out of my country, I don't care, I've relocated the majority of my population anyway. I will never, however, allow you to have such weapons. Seeing had we all been online at the same time, all attacks from your rods from god are nullified. Go on, shoot me, I dare you.

[Seraphi]

By now, Rhadamanthus I is in its final stages of completion, and will soon be launched on a test flight.

 

 

 

Aether began toying with the idea of storing the human mind on a computer, but gave up after it realised that the human brain contains many, many millions of terabytes of data.

 

Maybe in a few more years, though :

 

 

 

Dyson shard is still progressing nicely.

 

 

 

I am investing a lot of funding into creation of a space station in the orbit of mars.

 

It will use the same plasma docking system that Doom has stated, and will be quite heavily defended, with extremely heat resistant material used in the outer shell, as well as rows of ARC cannons lining the sides.

 

Brb drawing it in paint.

 

 

 

Aether continues to research into FTL travel, with interest now turned to discovering a different dimension with the correct properties for it.

 

Don't expect any breakthroughs for at least 40 years, though.

[jasignhagj]

After taking heavy losses, The Republic of Kazakh will surrender and withdraw troops, if you stop attacking our naval base. All troops are now back at our base, and we are flying white flags.

 

 

 

Our spaceship launches were successful, and now 1000 people and supplies have landed on my colony. Ill update the map later. We are now assembling a missile shield, and fortifying the border with Russia.

 

 

 

EDIT: dont think i didnt damage you though, now many of your bunkers are deswtroyed, leaving the path open for The holy empire, if they choose to continue.

[Seraphi]

By now, Rhadamanthus I is in its final stages of completion, and will soon be launched on a test flight.

 

 

 

I am investing a lot of funding into creation of a space station in the orbit of mars.

 

It will use the same plasma docking system that Doom has stated, and will be quite heavily defended, with extremely heat resistant material used in the outer shell, as well as rows of ARC cannons lining the sides.

 

Brb drawing it in paint.

 

 

 

 

 

Very quick paint drawing of my idea for them.

[Latinoking]

I can't deal with you. You can't just magically create infrastructure and raise an army that size and have them all magically be fully trained and equipped.

 

I have an army of 65 million. 25 million them are trained and war veterans, 10 million are still going through training, and 30 million are new conscripts. I could theoretically raise around 300 million that could fight, but I won't as it would be impossible to supply that many troops. But supplies don't seem to have any sort of effect on anyone else. You guys must have hordes of replicators I don't know about.

 

I didn't magically created anything. Why do you keep saying this? China's army was still there. :shame:

 

 

 

I highly doubt that 25 million soldiers are trained. This game is suppose to be realistic. I never said that those 100 million were ready to go off and battle either, but they certainly are ready once I take the precautions.

 

 

 

And as for The Fourth Reich, do you not think Latino would've found it impossible to gain control of the middle east as "The Holy Empire of Jerusalem" and a Christian state? Ha!

 

Yeah except I started from the middle east and China has been more willing to accept Christianity....good logic right there.

 

 

 

The Forth Reich wasn't a religious matter any hoo. It was more the people of Germany doesn't want to be associated with Nazis so would hate being called "The Forth Reich."

 

 

 

One could also assume that you could have lied to us and continue to battle for more land.

 

 

 

EDIT: don't think i didn't damage you though, now many of your bunkers are destroyed, leaving the path open for The holy empire, if they choose to continue.

 

The Empire thanks you for your contributions.

 

 

 

 

 

If this war is to work, people need to man the [bleep] up and accept that SOMETIMES YOU'RE GOING TO LOSE. Dusty, I don't see how you can even withstand however many god damn drones Ross has launched at you; in most military commanders books it would make sense to withdraw and tunnel the drones into a smaller space so they have less room to move around and kill.

 

I agree!

 

 

 

Okay, I think I have decided my next course of action.

 

Aether will withdraw from the war, however, I will supply my allies (Mainly Japan) who are fighting with drones to use as they wish.

 

Whichever desicion they make WILL NOT be influenced by me.

 

I command some drones to keep attacking Britannia.

[jasignhagj]

Our new colony on mars

 

 

Also fixed up the Sri Lanka text.

[Wisp]

Latino, how do you supply 100 million troops? How do you outfit them? How do you train them? How do you supply them once they're out in the field?

 

In real life, about 100 million ak-47's have been made, and they are the most common weapon, and there are probably as many ak-47's as all other assault rifles combined (I'm guessing there). So I have no idea where you would get 100 million guns. Your army before the war was roughly 3 million, so you just increased your army size by 33.

 

With the loss off 97 million people for important tasks such as farming the rest of your country falls into a deep economic depression, and tens of millions are on the brink of starvation. Then there's the problem of transporting the troops. Let's say each person need's a 1x1 area to stand when marching, this means they would take up an 18,000 square mile area. If they each take up a ridiculously small 8x2 area when not marching, they would take up 288,000 square mile area, for reference, that's about Texas, and then two Massachusetts, of soldiers, packed together with very little room. How in gods name would you supply something like that? It would be impossible, because to get to the middle of the encampment, it would take several days or weeks. During that time, most of the people would starve, or die from disease. Back at home, the people are rioting due to the ridiculous draft. Then in order to get from China to the edge of Germania's territory, you'd have to march over 2000 miles. A marching army of that size could only, at best, move at 2 miles an hour for 12 hours of the day. It would take you at least 85 days to reach there, if the terrain was all flat, on roads, and with no obstacles. Reasonably, it would take you close to a year. During that year, 95% of the soldiers would die from previously "extinct" diseases, such as the black plague, and then many more would die from influenza and exposure. Even if cures were available, try producing 100,000,000 vaccines, then delivering them to every single one of your soldiers. It's impossible.

 

 

 

tl;dr:

 

100 million people is impossible, and it would end china

 

 

 

EDIT:

 

How exactly is that kept in the air dungeonal? And plasma shielding, the only people with research into that are me and Russia. That's bigger than most space ships, and those are able to stay in the are because there is very very little gravity.

 

That thing is just impossible.

[jasignhagj]

Hes just saying he has that many people he could call on if need be

[Seraphi]

By the way, Doom, how is/are your battleship(s) going?

[Wisp]

The first one is finished, the second one was started a few years back. The first one is currently not orbiting earth. Once it gets back it will have it's Plasma shields installed.

[Wisp]

Plus with modern day bombs, dropping a few hundred would wipe out most of the army. And they'd have defense against icbm's since they're no longer in his country.

[jasignhagj]

I know that it is in no way practical to have a 120 million man army.

[Wisp]

Alright, I've played games like these before, so allow me to codify some rules for y'all.

 

 

 

1. No overpowering. This includes underpricing technology so as to mass produce it, being unrealistic, etc.

 

2. No destroying Earth or Moon, directly or indirectly. (for example, no blocking out the Sun.)

 

3. In war, none of your actions are set until the person you are attacking has replied. (For example: I mobilize two Sea King helicopters to take out someone's destroyer. That doesn't actually happen until that person says something).

 

4. Oceans may not be claimed. Small parts of water may be claimed, but not entire oceans or seas.

 

5. No country may do anything including or related to time travel.

 

6. No antimatter for military use.

 

 

 

That about covers my thoughts.

 

That seems pretty fair. I think if possible, wars should have a mediator to call stuff out (Though I do that normally)

 

And antimatter is just impractical period. I rechecked my facts, and it would take about 420 quadrillion dollars to make a gram of antimatter, and even if production was increased by 100000% it would still take about 20 million years to produce that gram.

 

Also, if it was used in weapons, it would be a nuclear fusion reaction, which is against the rules. EDIT: I mean using that as a weapon is against the rules. It would be like shooting someone with a pistol loaded with a nuclear bomb.

 

As for 5, that rules out faster than light travel. So I agree.

[Seraphi]

Okay, I suppose Rhadamanthus I is now finished, but has not entered space yet.

 

Construction of Rhadamanthus II should begin soon.

 

 

 

I have also begun created parts for my space station.

 

 

 

Dyson shard is basically finished, and is currently undergoing preperations for liftoff, Should arrive at its orbit location in about 1.5 years time.

 

The small ship that retreives the power is also completed.

 

 

 

 

 

Also, I still think that FTL travel should eventually be discovered, so that inerstellar warfare can play out at a decent rate, and not take like 2 months to make one tactical retreat.

 

 

 

Yes, I know its basically impossible, but if every nation has it, it isn't really unfair, and it would make thos game much more playable.

 

 

 

Can't we just do one unrealistically impossible thing, for the sake of playability?

[Guest]

:lol: Good thing I loan out the ship. Nice now you gone and kill someone else's people.

 

 

 

*shrug* It was still your ship.

 

 

 

 

I only rented it for a month, it was in your possession at the time. So my astronauts are still alive and well. Can't say the same for your ship though, and probally anything surrounding it.

 

 

 

:lol:

 

 

 

Oh, I've started to build a space station. I expect it to be done is 8 years.

[Wisp]

Faster than light travel makes my brain hurt. If a ship traveled to a planet 10 lightyears away, in 5 years, they could look back with a telescope and see their ship launching from earth, and see it getting closer and closer to the planet they were on, until it finally reached them and merged with them.

[Me_Hate_Libs]

If only trailers could float...

 

 

 

We have a major army ready to go in the south. They have their own breeding system set up to to replace any of those would be lost. Called incest. :thumbup:

 

 

 

A whole army of mutant babies with 3 arms and 2 1/2 legs in floating trailers, attacking our enemies. Beats the hell out of suicide bomber. 8-)

[Seraphi]

Faster than light travel makes my brain hurt. If a ship traveled to a planet 10 lightyears away, in 5 years, they could look back with a telescope and see their ship launching from earth, and see it getting closer and closer to the planet they were on, until it finally reached them and merged with them.

 

This is what I'm saying.

 

I know its stupidly impossible, unrealistic and makes like no sense, but I think it needs to be broken for the sake of playability.

 

 

 

Do you really want to take a week to complete a retreat, or launch an attack?

 

Without it, interstellar warfare is really lame.

[RpgGamer]

Indeed... I am really begginning to have second thoughts about world war IV, and, rereading the reasons we have for fighting, very few of them are justifiable.

 

Dusty did indeed say that he was not planning to expand much more, I seem to remember him saying so.

 

I guess revenge drives people to do crazy things...

 

 

 

Alrighty, I'm commanding all of my drones to stay still until somebody can persuade me to either step out, or keep fighting.

 

I'm not withdrawing because I'm losing, either, Human losses for Aether are barely into the 2000 mark.

 

 

 

Bleh, might as well add that the dyson fragment is nearly finished.

 

 

 

I'm going to dump a ton of money into the restoration of Japan now, as well.

 

 

 

Don't drop out, we were about to retake Europe! We need you in this war, or we're all dead. Is that not justification enough? What if the US bailed out on Britain during WWII? What would have happened then?

 

 

 

Latino, how do you supply 100 million troops? How do you outfit them? How do you train them? How do you supply them once they're out in the field?

 

In real life, about 100 million ak-47's have been made, and they are the most common weapon, and there are probably as many ak-47's as all other assault rifles combined

 

 

 

Well, being the mass production country I am (plus I have a crap load of left over Isreali weapons, I'll be willing to send 50 LAARTs or so full of weapons/supplies to Latino's new Army. Unfortunatly I can only realy reach the African front.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Oh! And didn't Latino rent out his spaceship to Serepherus (one of Dusty's Ally's)?. Blowing up your friends isn't a good idea Dusty :shame:

 

And @ Ross, the reason we all gang up on Germany so much over Brazil is becuase Brazil has done nothing but protect people, where Dusty seems determined to kick people out of the game. I thought the idea of WWIV was to put him cak in his place. We don't want him gone, but atleast push him back into East Europe.

[Seraphi]

RPG, I'm basically taking the backseat in the war, command of a lot of drones has been given to some of my allies.

 

I will not influence the desicions people decide to make though.

 

 

 

Also, if the US had bailed out on Britain, I'd be talking German right now :lol: