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Latino, as advanced as raptors are, eurofighters are more advanced, they're many years newer.

 

But in terms of when they were built, a raptor is a old as something from a few years after WWII would be to us in real life. It may have been the king in it's time, but not anymore.

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They've been used in every war I've been into, everything from WW3 and beyond. So yes, they've been tested against Eurofighters and Raptors.

 

What? Okay I might give you Eurofighters (as Britain, Italy, Spain, and Greece use them) but hell no to Raptors.

 

 

 

Please explain which country used a Raptor F-22 against you before now. I'll love to hear who's been using a fake Raptor.

 

 

 

You do realize I took over Europe through military conquest, right? You're saying not one of those countries had a single F22?

 

Btw, in the present day, we would probably be at F64s or something, if anyone other then me, Brazil, and Norway had actually invested any money into updating their air forces.

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Latino, do you remember where you got the schematics for the raptor? Apparently they were lying around in saudi arabia. So if the saudis had one, I'm sure at some point a few other countries did as well.

 

 

 

 

 

Here's a long post. Be warned.

 

 

 

The Brazilian Empire is proud to present it's latest achievement in personally weaponry.

 

We are introducing a full line of infantry weapons.

 

The most important weapon of the group is the new AK-2047 (Pronounced ak-twenty-forty seven, not ak two thousand forty seven). It is a newly designed variant of the classic weapon, designed with the help of Viktor Kalashnikov (the original creator's son).

 

It keeps the best features of the ak-47, it's reliability, sturdiness, and ease of production, while also increasing the accuracy and effective range with a newly designed barrel. The barrel can also fire specially designed bullets, currently only used by Brazilian special forces. It uses built in recoil suppressors, in order to maintain accuracy with sustained fire. It will also basically never jam.

 

 

 

The second gun is the Ba1 sniper rifle. In appearance, it is similar to the older L96, but it's main feature is a built in targetting computer, that will determine the wind speed, air temperature, humidity, and recommend where the sniper should shoot so all guesswork is taken out. It can of course be turned off, if the sniper wants. For reference, something like this exists in real life, and it fired 16 shots a target 3000 meters away, and they all hit within a foot of eachother on the target. This improves upon it slightly. It is semi-automatic, and holds 15 bullets per clip. Alexi Dragunov also helped with this design.

 

 

 

Next is a submachine gun is an improve PP-19, called the BESM-1. It has a similar helical magazine, which holds up to 64 rounds, though smaller clips are also available. It is more accurate than the original version, and has an adjustable rate of fire, so it could fire all the bullets at an extremely fast rate, or slower for conserving ammo and improved accuracy.

 

 

 

Next is a shotgun,the BSC-1, it's a fairly simple design, just a different way of loading ammunition for a higher capacity. It is semi automatic, or full automatic.

 

 

 

The last publicly announced weapon is a pistol. The BP-1 fires specialized bullets, or normal bullets, with a 18 bullet clip size. It isn't anything amazing, but it's still a solid pistol.

 

 

 

These are all modular, so a scope could be attached to any of them (Though a scoped pistol isn't too effective), a grenade launcher, laser sights, silencer/suppressor etc.

 

I started these on the last post of page 95, if anyone cares.

 

They will be released to the public next year. If anyone wants to buy any, they are some of the best guns in the game.

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Latino, do you remember where you got the schematics for the raptor? Apparently they were lying around in saudi arabia. So if the saudis had one, I'm sure at some point a few other countries did as well.

 

 

 

 

 

Here's a long post. Be warned.

 

 

 

The Brazilian Empire is proud to present it's latest achievement in personally weaponry.

 

We are introducing a full line of infantry weapons.

 

The most important weapon of the group is the new AK-2047 (Pronounced ak-twenty-forty seven, not ak two thousand forty seven). It is a newly designed variant of the classic weapon, designed with the help of Viktor Kalashnikov (the original creator's son).

 

It keeps the best features of the ak-47, it's reliability, sturdiness, and ease of production, while also increasing the accuracy and effective range with a newly designed barrel. The barrel can also fire specially designed bullets, currently only used by Brazilian special forces. It uses built in recoil suppressors, in order to maintain accuracy with sustained fire. It will also basically never jam.

 

 

 

The second gun is the Ba1 sniper rifle. In appearance, it is similar to the older L96, but it's main feature is a built in targetting computer, that will determine the wind speed, air temperature, humidity, and recommend where the sniper should shoot so all guesswork is taken out. It can of course be turned off, if the sniper wants. For reference, something like this exists in real life, and it fired 16 shots a target 3000 meters away, and they all hit within a foot of eachother on the target. This improves upon it slightly. It is semi-automatic, and holds 15 bullets per clip. Alexi Dragunov also helped with this design.

 

 

 

Next is a submachine gun is an improve PP-19, called the BESM-1. It has a similar helical magazine, which holds up to 64 rounds, though smaller clips are also available. It is more accurate than the original version, and has an adjustable rate of fire, so it could fire all the bullets at an extremely fast rate, or slower for conserving ammo and improved accuracy.

 

 

 

Next is a shotgun,the BSC-1, it's a fairly simple design, just a different way of loading ammunition for a higher capacity. It is semi automatic, or full automatic.

 

 

 

The last publicly announced weapon is a pistol. The BP-1 fires specialized bullets, or normal bullets, with a 18 bullet clip size. It isn't anything amazing, but it's still a solid pistol.

 

 

 

These are all modular, so a scope could be attached to any of them (Though a scoped pistol isn't too effective), a grenade launcher, laser sights, silencer/suppressor etc.

 

I started these on the last post of page 95, if anyone cares.

 

They will be released to the public next year. If anyone wants to buy any, they are some of the best guns in the game.

 

 

 

=P~

 

 

 

How much each one cost for one?

 

I'll PM you an order once you respond.

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Oh, heres a map, updated with Burma's new terrority. I used the most recent one I could find, if anything is wrong, PM me and I'll fix it.

 

 

 

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Edit - Damn, sorry for the crappy size and quality. I saved it and uploaded it, and it came out like that :?

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Oh, heres a map, updated with Burma's new terrority. I used the most recent one I could find, if anything is wrong, PM me and I'll fix it.

 

 

 

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Not so fast. If you're doing it through diplomatic measures it'll take you 3 years or so. If it's through military, it'll take 1-2 years, and then another 3 or so to stabilize the country.

 

Also, don't ever post that map as a jpg.

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Well I think I am done with this game, not sure yet. I told myself I would quit if FTL travel got godmodded into it. So I'll give this post, and while I'll probably continue reading, this may be my last post here.

 

 

 

Standing orders for Norway are:

 

 

 

Firstly, for all joint projects with Brazil and I have together, assume that anything she says I automatically agree to. The projects we have together right now are the Alpha Centauri colony, the spaceship construction station (for the ones we sell), the colony on Mars (along with Aether and Australia) which is also where the Mars Space Elevator is, the Earth space elevators (one somewhere in Brazil and mine is in Oslo, Norway) and finally the Brazilian military in Norway (which are fully Brazilian, but I have been paying for them being there). Anything doom says on these things I'll go along with.

 

 

 

Secondly, I have mostly been focusing on space stuff for most of the game. Currently I have the aforementioned joint projects with Brazil, and independently a few other things. The Martian colony of Thorland, 96 completely self sustaining modules around 16 Psyche (where the mining ships work), 2 spaceship construction stations also around 16 Psyche that have standing orders to build more mining ships (each station can produce one ship every 3 years) and the actual ships I have are 4 mining ships and 1 colonizing ship (along with a number of small shuttles for small transportation). 3 of the mining ships are working on supplying ore for the space elevators on Earth (the Martian one is complete) and the fourth is working on my project around Venus, which I might as well reveal at this time. The first station is called Bifrost, and it is a 200km long 300m diameter enclosed cylinder that is completely self sustaining. It has some propulsion just in case but it really isn't meant to move. I chose to do this around Venus since no one else has bothered colonizing closer to the Sun than Earth. Also the atmosphere around Venus can be harvested and the necessary ingredients for air can be extracted. Each station can sustain 100,000 people indefinitely once it is ready. This first one will be completed in 3 years (which will be 10 years from start date) and once the space elevators are completed the mining ships will come back to building more of these.

 

 

 

Thirdly, I have been researching unmanned aircraft since the beginning of the game. This will continue indefinitely. I am not godmodding myself an army of these like many others have with their military, so these are still the most advanced aircraft in the world. I should have around 100 bombers, 300 fighters and 500 drones which have been being built since the first day of the game (updated with new technology as it comes of course). Research will also continue on making these more effective in Martian gravity which is 1/3 of Earth.

 

 

 

Lastly, someone (I think it was Russia) was using Rods of God vs Japan. I was building my satellites solely with mass ever since I first started doing stuff in space. These differ slightly from the others. First, they are farther up. Secondly, they are in geosynchronous orbit above Norway's main cities. This was a deterrent against invasion, not only could I completely destroy Norway if someone invaded the resulting dust cloud would kill most life above the European area and with the air currents the way they are cover most of northern Asia. I have no idea why his 250kg/500kg rods caused so much damage but being that small does make them pretty maneuverable. The ones above Norway are not maneuverable. The only thing that can happen is the engines shut off and they start to fall (since they are in geosynchronous orbit they will fall straight down onto whatever they were above). These are not small tactical rods. These are 15 meter in diameter spherical solid Tungsten, which would be around 34,000,000 kilograms. Being solid Tungsten and not rock like meteors, as well as just starting to accelerate when the engines shut off, barely anything is lost in the atmosphere. Each one should cause around the same amount of damage as double the biggest nuclear bomb, the Tsar bomb (not counting the dust cloud). There are 20 satellites above the 20 major Norwegian cities. The point of this section? To prevent attacks in my absence of course :D

 

 

 

A summary of Norwegians in the galaxy:

 

Around 6 million total

 

5 million in Norway (100,000 ready to move to Bifrost)

 

10,000 in Alpha Centauri (mostly kids, original settlers were mostly women and were to give birth once per year)

 

1 million on Mars, equal parts in Thorland and the joint colony.

 

Around 2,000 on various ships/space stations

 

Incentives were given to increase birthrates. Many of the older people from Norway went to Mars, where it is easier on the body. The booming economy of an entirely new planet is enough to take care of the older people, and the drastic reduction of them in Norway allowed for the kids to be born.

 

 

 

EDIT: God damn that took 2 hours to write and I thought it was a lot longer. I kept on having to go find when I started stuff...

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Latino, as advanced as raptors are, eurofighters are more advanced, they're many years newer.

 

But in terms of when they were built, a raptor is a old as something from a few years after WWII would be to us in real life. It may have been the king in it's time, but not anymore.

 

How are Eurofighters more advanced? They have done tests already and Raptors is king and up to now in this game, they still are.

 

 

 

They (Eurofighters) are 4.5th generation fighter jets. Raptors are 5th generation, and again in all these years only two people have research fighter jets. Me and indy500fan, but I highly doubt indy500fan has the scientists/engineers and money to actually make an improvement and a possiblely create a 6th? generation fighter jet.

 

 

 

Latino, do you remember where you got the schematics for the raptor? Apparently they were lying around in saudi arabia. So if the saudis had one, I'm sure at some point a few other countries did as well.

 

Israel and Saudi Arabia were interested in them before the New Hegemony took over. The former United States leader saw no problem when I posted that I found them. He damaged the former United States. So one else has the schematics.

 

 

 

You do realize I took over Europe through military conquest, right? You're saying not one of those countries had a single F22?

 

Yes....NONE OF THEM have one. I know doom tried to buy the schematics for them, but I never sold them.

 

 

 

Btw, in the present day, we would probably be at F64s or something, if anyone other then me, Brazil, and Norway had actually invested any money into updating their air forces.

 

No there's no F64s, this is just inventing stuff now.

 

 

 

Again, no one except me and now (as I never have stopped the J-XX project) and it seems indyfan500 has research fighters jets. I saw no point to making advances. They are still the best as I saw that there was no conflations and needed to improve them. So I used my money in other government programs.

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Oh, heres a map, updated with Burma's new terrority. I used the most recent one I could find, if anything is wrong, PM me and I'll fix it.

 

 

 

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Not so fast. If you're doing it through diplomatic measures it'll take you 3 years or so. If it's through military, it'll take 1-2 years, and then another 3 or so to stabilize the country.

 

 

 

Ok then, it's what Burma's future terrority will be.

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Report: Raptor F-22 are continuing to be successful against Germania's air defense system.

 

 

 

The J-XX will be even more deadly. Research for improvements for both the J-XX and even improve the Raptor are top priority.

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Again, no one except me and now (as I never have stopped the J-XX project) and it seems indyfan500 has research fighters jets. I saw no point to making advances. They are still the best as I saw that there was no conflations and needed to improve them. So I used my money in other government programs.

 

 

 

Me and Doom?

 

Your planes are outdated, quit getting so pissy about it.

 

 

 

Report: Raptor F-22 are continuing to be successful against Germania's air defense system.

 

 

 

Did you seriously just dismiss the past two pages that explained why your jets wouldn't be effective?

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Report: Raptor F-22 are continuing to be successful against Germania's air defense system.

 

 

 

:?

 

 

 

Basically you get to decide if they work or not?

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The battle in Tunisia rages on, almost all German troops have been killed. (You never made any response, so I assume you don't care)

 

The German troops in Belarus have been mostly surrounded and are having bullets, grenades, and bombs raining down on them, with no possibility of retreat.

 

After some talk, Algeria and Libya are thinking about joining the revolution, but are still far from a decision.

 

And yes, I have around 250,000 troops still in Berlin. Only 50k have died, but many more Germans have died.

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Doom, if said Tamper devices are installed, can the weapons be modified by you to fit my drones?

 

 

 

I could send one that has the AI removed for you to base it on, then you could produce a few hundered thousand and I could buy them.

 

 

 

Sound good?

 

 

 

I basically want the pistol and submachine gun to install onto my mechs, since the sniper can't really be used by an AI.

 

 

 

 

 

EDIT:

 

It looks like Findenland and Germania are totally ignoring each other's posts and making up war status.

 

Probably not the smartest thing in the world.

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Just for the sake of it, over the next decade, I'll be putting money into Norway's sovereign wealth fund, so if they decide to be active at some point, they'll be very wealthy.

 

 

 

Eurofighters aren't fully developed yet, iirc, and raptors have been around since the 90s.

 

As for prices, I'll say the basic price for the ak-2047 is 2100 per unit, the sniper is 12,000 per unit, the submachine gun is 2000, the shotgun is 1700 per unit, and the pistol is 1400. And I copyright them. They require a very specialized factor to produce, due to the alloys used to make them, and it would take many years to build that factory, and many more to figure out exactly how it works. They're advanced guns. And I might embargo any country who tries to copy them. There's also basic tamper guards.

 

And I guess I could do that, ross. I could even specialized the submachine gun for a bigger clip, since it'd be on a mech.

 

 

 

Hedgehog, for the last time, how did 250,00 troops get into Berlin? And why would any countries consider joining the revolution, especially diplomatically gained countries.

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That would be great, thanks Doom.

 

I also forgot to mention the shotgun, I would like those as well.

 

 

 

An Icarus drone model has been dispatched to wherever these guns are being produced, just shout when you've finished modifying the guns.

 

 

 

And yes, a larger clip size would be much apprecciated.

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Just for the sake of it, over the next decade, I'll be putting money into Norway's sovereign wealth fund, so if they decide to be active at some point, they'll be very wealthy.

 

 

 

Eurofighters aren't fully developed yet, iirc, and raptors have been around since the 90s.

 

As for prices, I'll say the basic price for the ak-2047 is 2100 per unit, the sniper is 12,000 per unit, the submachine gun is 2000, the shotgun is 1700 per unit, and the pistol is 1400. And I copyright them. They require a very specialized factor to produce, due to the alloys used to make them, and it would take many years to build that factory, and many more to figure out exactly how it works. They're advanced guns. And I might embargo any country who tries to copy them. There's also basic tamper guards.

 

And I guess I could do that, ross. I could even specialized the submachine gun for a bigger clip, since it'd be on a mech.

 

 

 

Hedgehog, for the last time, how did 250,00 troops get into Berlin? And why would any countries consider joining the revolution, especially diplomatically gained countries.

 

 

 

Eh. I'll take 10,000 of each.

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Eh. I'll take 10,000 of each.

 

That's end up at around 200 million.

 

Ross, how many drones will you send? And do you want all the weapons on each of them, or some of the drones would have a shotgun, some an smg, etc.?

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A~Kirby I own thailand and Laos so please do not try to conquer them If you do I will invade

 

B~I have been at school but have still skimmed the pages so I would like to say this to germany...

 

What are you going to do about 3 million very angry soldiers and 200 super tanks which are now invading?

 

C~I have fighter interceptors that are much faster than the speed of sound

 

D~Dungeonal try using aircraft carriers

 

E~Unless as i said russia has a missile shield most of his major cities and military instillations have been hit by ICBM's also because I ascribe to total war several missiles hit grain depositories(cause I can)

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Eh. I'll take 10,000 of each.

 

That's end up at around 200 million.

 

Ross, how many drones will you send? And do you want all the weapons on each of them, or some of the drones would have a shotgun, some an smg, etc.?

 

I'll probably end up equipping them all over the next few years.

 

Starting a huge shipment of one million, through about a dozen supertanker style ships.

 

Should take a few trips.

 

I want the shotgun:SMG+pistol ratio to be 1:6.

 

 

 

Is that acceptable?

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It depends what you have on them currently. If you have a heavy machine gun on there, that might be better, though the AK might be more accurate. I guess I could start marketing them where they would be attachable to various mech types, with extended clips. I also have a lmg and a hmg in the works, but it's not done yet.

 

I have single strike bombers that can go at hypersonic speeds. So I probably have the fastest planes in the world. I'm working on developing an entire new set of ships, and planes. It'll be a while though.

 

 

 

So that would be 145,000 ish with shotguns, then the rest with the smg and pistol?

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[bleep]ing man up people.

 

 

 

1) Findenland/Hedgehog, sorry mate, but I have to agree - "smuggling" 300k soldiers into Berlin is [bleep]ing ludicrous.

 

2) I'm tired of people saying "NO YOUR PLANE IS UTTERLY WORTHLESS AGAINST ALL MY TECHNOLOGY LOL!" - Yes, history shows us that the most advanced civilization will prevail but seriously; it's utterly unrealistic to say that F-22's are ineffective.

 

 

 

Do you want to play fairly and let everyone have fun, or do you want to play God and just laugh at us?

 

 

 

Japan's gonna tech some new guns for itself. Something in the assault rifle range. I figure we'll have the tech finished in maybe 3 years, be ready to mass produce a year later. Sound fair?

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