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[a_bert]

How exactly is that kept in the air dungeonal? And plasma shielding, the only people with research into that are me and Russia. That's bigger than most space ships, and those are able to stay in the are because there is very very little gravity.

 

That thing is just impossible.

 

 

 

Lols, k.

 

 

 

I'll go back to playing in the stone age for you.

 

 

 

Counters for win buttons are so unrealistic! I know, right!

 

 

 

Edit: in all seriousness;

 

 

 

we've been building it ever since we got our hands on some high end technology.

i.e. spacecraft - Aether let us play with their ship a little bit when we went to Mars and then had our colony blown up and nobody told me why

 

 

 

couldn't it just stay in the air with loads of little hover thingies underneath it?

 

 

 

if you find problem with this then whatever, screw the battleship thing

 

 

 

on plasma shielding;

 

 

 

this article shows that a Japanese company were doing stuff with plasma

 

 

 

. That one is being used to create 3D images in the air using dozens of tiny plasma

 

flashpoints which are constantly refreshed, but which is limited to a fairly small size.

 

 

 

so I don't think it's unrealistic that in the 40 years since then we've altered it to work for shielding

[Seraphi]

How exactly is that kept in the air dungeonal? And plasma shielding, the only people with research into that are me and Russia. That's bigger than most space ships, and those are able to stay in the are because there is very very little gravity.

 

That thing is just impossible.

 

 

 

Lols, k.

 

 

 

I'll go back to playing in the stone age for you.

 

 

 

Counters for win buttons are so unrealistic! I know, right!

 

 

 

Edit: in all seriousness;

 

 

 

we've been building it ever since we got our hands on some high end technology.

i.e. spacecraft - Aether let us play with their ship a little bit when we went to Mars and then had our colony blown up and nobody told me why

 

 

 

couldn't it just stay in the air with loads of little hover thingies underneath it?

 

 

 

if you find problem with this then whatever, screw the battleship thing

 

Didn't your colony get lost when the map was remade?

 

Thats what happened to mine, so maybe you could just make it again, and assume it never disappeared mysteriously.

[Latinoking]

I've already discuss the 100 million people with the war judge. Don't keep pressing me about it.

 

 

 

Well, being the mass production country I am (plus I have a crap load of left over Isreali weapons, I'll be willing to send 50 LAARTs or so full of weapons/supplies to Latino's new Army. Unfortunately I can only really reach the African front.

 

Fine by me. Will the war judge determine how the battle in Africa-Germania is going?

 

 

 

Oh! And didn't Latino rent out his spaceship to Serepherus (one of Dusty's Ally's)?. Blowing up your friends isn't a good idea Dusty :shame:

 

It was actually to Kirby. He actually asked to join to their alliance though beforehand.

 

 

 

And @ Ross, the reason we all gang up on Germany so much over Brazil is becuase Brazil has done nothing but protect people, where Dusty seems determined to kick people out of the game. I thought the idea of WWIV was to put him cak in his place. We don't want him gone, but atleast push him back into East Europe.

 

Yes, the vision is to defeat him but we'll also watch him closely and give some land.

[a_bert]

Didn't your colony get lost when the map was remade?

 

Thats what happened to mine, so maybe you could just make it again, and assume it never disappeared mysteriously.

 

 

 

Oh, okay

 

 

 

 

 

 

<3

[Pirate_Felix]

Alright, I've played games like these before, so allow me to codify some rules for y'all.

 

 

 

1. No overpowering. This includes underpricing technology so as to mass produce it, being unrealistic, etc.

 

2. No destroying Earth or Moon, directly or indirectly. (for example, no blocking out the Sun.)

 

3. In war, none of your actions are set until the person you are attacking has replied. (For example: I mobilize two Sea King helicopters to take out someone's destroyer. That doesn't actually happen until that person says something).

 

4. Oceans may not be claimed. Small parts of water may be claimed, but not entire oceans or seas.

 

5. No country may do anything including or related to time travel.

 

6. No antimatter for military use.

 

 

 

That about covers my thoughts.

 

That seems pretty fair. I think if possible, wars should have a mediator to call stuff out (Though I do that normally)

 

And antimatter is just impractical period. I rechecked my facts, and it would take about 420 quadrillion dollars to make a gram of antimatter, and even if production was increased by 100000% it would still take about 20 million years to produce that gram.

 

Also, if it was used in weapons, it would be a nuclear fusion reaction, which is against the rules. EDIT: I mean using that as a weapon is against the rules. It would be like shooting someone with a pistol loaded with a nuclear bomb.

 

As for 5, that rules out faster than light travel. So I agree.

 

Faster than light travel isnt possible according to Einsteins Relativity's theory, you have to rewrite physics if you do >.>

 

And Antimatter doesnt create an nuclear fusion reaction if im right.

[ThurinEthir]

Screw it all.

 

I offer open borders and trade with Japan, the Holy Empire, Malaysia, and I suppose any of their allies (Aether?).

 

Taiwan is extremely capable of mass production. *hinthint*

 

I've now trained 6 million troops in total. 4 million are in the reserve force, 2 million are on active duty, high-alert.

 

I have no clue what I'm doing anymore.

[Wisp]

Latino, I think you accidentally quoted me instead of rpg on the last page. No big deal though.

 

 

 

And pirate, I think that antimatter is used to start nuclear fusion (or would theoretically if we ever had enough). While it doesn't exactly create a nuclear fusion reaction all by itself, it's pretty close to it. I think. I could be totally wrong. A lot of the science behind it confuses me, due to me not having several phd's.

 

Dungeonal, to be fair, how about we just say that continuing off that companies research, now with government funding, you'll have a working model of plasma shielding ready in a couple of years. That sound ok? And I think having something that big floating would take a huge amount of energy. You could build a space ship that big, eventually, but I don't think it would work for anything terrestrial. You can still use plasma shielding for other stuff though. A sheath of plasma around a plane or missile will also increase how aerodynamic it is by a good amount.

[Guest]

Actually, he blew up the ship after I returned it to Latino.

[Wisp]

Latino, I think you accidentally quoted me instead of rpg on the last page. No big deal though.

 

 

 

And pirate, I think that antimatter is used to start nuclear fusion (or would theoretically if we ever had enough). While it doesn't exactly create a nuclear fusion reaction all by itself, it's pretty close to it. I think. I could be totally wrong. A lot of the science behind it confuses me, due to me not having several phd's.

 

Dungeonal, to be fair, how about we just say that continuing off that companies research, now with government funding, you'll have a working model of plasma shielding ready in a couple of years. That sound ok? And I think having something that big floating would take a huge amount of energy. You could build a space ship that big, eventually, but I don't think it would work for anything terrestrial. You can still use plasma shielding for other stuff though. A sheath of plasma around a plane or missile will also increase how aerodynamic it is by a good amount.

 

You're wrong according to Dan Brown. Apparently anti-matter, when it come into contact with normal matter, goes [cabbage] crazy exploding. Like 1 gram could destroy over a million square miles.

 

1 gram will also never be created. In real life, when looking for cheaper alternatives for getting antimatter, they are looking into mining it from the atmosphere, where they think there might be up to 16 micro grams (microgram=1 millionth of a gram).

 

But antimatter isn't a magical thing, it just is the opposite of matter. 1 gram will only directly destroy 1 gram of matter. Though it will produce a huge amount of energy. How that energy is directed is what makes the difference.

[Seraphi]

Where have we got to on the FTL travel argument?

 

 

 

Again I ask:

 

Can we break the rules of physics just once, for the sake of playability.

[Pirate_Felix]

Latino, I think you accidentally quoted me instead of rpg on the last page. No big deal though.

 

 

 

And pirate, I think that antimatter is used to start nuclear fusion (or would theoretically if we ever had enough). While it doesn't exactly create a nuclear fusion reaction all by itself, it's pretty close to it. I think. I could be totally wrong. A lot of the science behind it confuses me, due to me not having several phd's.

 

Dungeonal, to be fair, how about we just say that continuing off that companies research, now with government funding, you'll have a working model of plasma shielding ready in a couple of years. That sound ok? And I think having something that big floating would take a huge amount of energy. You could build a space ship that big, eventually, but I don't think it would work for anything terrestrial. You can still use plasma shielding for other stuff though. A sheath of plasma around a plane or missile will also increase how aerodynamic it is by a good amount.

 

You're wrong according to Dan Brown. Apparently anti-matter, when it come into contact with normal matter, goes [cabbage] crazy exploding. Like 1 gram could destroy over a million square miles.

 

1 gram will also never be created. In real life, when looking for cheaper alternatives for getting antimatter, they are looking into mining it from the atmosphere, where they think there might be up to 16 micro grams (microgram=1 millionth of a gram).

 

But antimatter isn't a magical thing, it just is the opposite of matter. 1 gram will only directly destroy 1 gram of matter. Though it will produce a huge amount of energy. How that energy is directed is what makes the difference.

 

1 gram of antimatter which meets with 1 gram of matter creates 1,8 × 10^14 joule energy, equal to 43 kiloton TNT

 

And still, faster than light travel isnt possible

[Wisp]

In 2070 of course we won't have a ftl engine because it's impossible, and basically would change so many laws of physics that it would make anything possible. Also, it would probably kill everyone in the ship due to the ridiculous amount of G's being exerted upon them. Tell you what ross, we'll see how the thread progresses, and if it ever gets to the point where we would actually need something like that, maybe we can compromise then. Because for now, we don't need anything like that.

 

 

 

And yeah, that's a lot of energy. In theory, I guess, since it will probably never happen. 43 kilotons would be what? 1000 tsar bomba's going off at once? Christ... EDIT: Wait.. google tells me the tsar bomba was 50 megatons. So that would be a tenth of a tsar bomba.

 

But still, if the energy from that could be channeled somehow it could be an incredible means of generating power. But it's not like we would do a gram at a time. But again, it'll probably never happen.

[Nero]

Germania has halted all acts of aggression against Aether and Kazakhstan. Kazakhstan you're actually pretty lucky, as Russia was planning on staging a mass invasion today. I shall go talk to him and call it off.

 

 

 

To Latino:

 

Having 25 million troops fully trained is not all that unrealistic, considering the number of wars Germania has been involved in. I never claimed that the other portions are trained though. A deal has been made with another country to supply weapons to my new recruits though (as to stay within the realm of realism). Supplying as many troops I have isn't that hard either, since they're all based on home ground, so the supply lines aren't under attack constantly.

 

 

 

Not many changes in Europe, Findenland has dug into their small staging ground in northern Denmark, and a 2 million man assault has begun on Belarus.

 

Africa-Germania war news:

 

Germanian troops are retreating following massive attacks by Jerusalem and Luxembourg. They've adopted a scorched Earth policy, so I'd be quite careful of advancing too far into Germanian land, as you'd soon find yourself without enough food or water to supply your troops.

 

 

 

Germania has also sent around 50,000 troops to reinforce Greenland, and another 15,000 to Iceland. Another 2,000 are dotted across the arctic isles.

[a_bert]

Dungeonal, to be fair, how about we just say that continuing off that companies research, now with government funding, you'll have a working model of plasma shielding ready in a couple of years. That sound ok?

 

 

 

Okay, sure.

 

 

 

And I think having something that big floating would take a huge amount of energy. You could build a space ship that big, eventually, but I don't think it would work for anything terrestrial. You can still use plasma shielding for other stuff though. A sheath of plasma around a plane or missile will also increase how aerodynamic it is by a good amount.

 

 

 

All right. Let's say that in 2 years time, we'll have a fleet of 80 stealth aircraft with plasma shielding, which makes them pretty much invulnerable.

[Wisp]

Plasma shielding is most effective against railguns, or bullets. Explosives will still do plenty of damage. But railguns are good anti air, so it makes it so you don't need to worry about them.

 

And a plasma shielded stealth bomber would probably cost 3 billion a piece. That's very expensive.

[Nero]

Well, FTL travel isn't really necessary, because we have more efficient alternatives, like wormholes (very possible, don't be close minded :shame: ) and teleportation.

 

 

 

And plasma shielding wouldn't make them "pretty much invulnerable". And if it does then it would take longer than 2 years to get -.-.

 

 

 

Plasma shielding makes them absorb a lot of energy-based weapons damage, but can't really stop solid things like missiles and bullets. Which is what my ships use hehe.

 

Alright, one of my colony ships has been sent off to Gisele D, should be there in around 19 years. The first one sent has around 10 years left for its trip.

[jasignhagj]

Germania has halted all acts of aggression against Aether and Kazakhstan. Kazakhstan you're actually pretty lucky, as Russia was planning on staging a mass invasion today. I shall go talk to him and call it off.

 

 

 

The war served its purpose anyway, our tanks work great, even against a well trained army.

 

 

 

Most troops have returned to the mainland, however, we have stationed 25000 in somilia in case things get out of hand.

[Wisp]

Well, FTL travel isn't really necessary, because we have more efficient alternatives, like wormholes (very possible, don't be close minded :shame: ) and teleportation.

 

 

 

And plasma shielding wouldn't make them "pretty much invulnerable". And if it does then it would take longer than 2 years to get -.-.

 

Wormholes are possible, but then again so is god, and invisible unicorns who can fly and feed on rainbows. There is no proof of wormholes, the theory is more of a "what if" kind of thing, rather than one backed up with observation and proof.

 

Anyways, I'm ok with no antimatter as weapons. Except maybe eventually with ship to ship combat, but nothing terrestrial. I still doubt we'll ever get to that point though.

[Seraphi]

Well, FTL travel isn't really necessary, because we have more efficient alternatives, like wormholes (very possible, don't be close minded :shame: ) and teleportation.

 

 

 

And plasma shielding wouldn't make them "pretty much invulnerable". And if it does then it would take longer than 2 years to get -.-.

 

Instantanious distance travel is overpowered.

 

 

 

"I warp 10,000 troops into the centre of your city".

 

 

 

If its going to happen, it will just be normal travel that is faster than light, not teleportation.

 

 

 

Side note:

 

Rhadamanthus I is now in orbit over Mars.

[Nero]

Well, FTL travel isn't really necessary, because we have more efficient alternatives, like wormholes (very possible, don't be close minded :shame: ) and teleportation.

 

 

 

And plasma shielding wouldn't make them "pretty much invulnerable". And if it does then it would take longer than 2 years to get -.-.

 

Wormholes are possible, but then again so is god, and invisible unicorns who can fly and feed on rainbows. There is no proof of wormholes, the theory is more of a "what if" kind of thing, rather than one backed up with observation and proof.

 

Anyways, I'm ok with no antimatter as weapons. Except maybe eventually with ship to ship combat, but nothing terrestrial. I still doubt we'll ever get to that point though.

 

 

 

Germania has raised an army of 5 million unicorns that feed on rainbows. They are currently charging against Jerusalem's battle line.

[a_bert]

Oh my, 3 billion. That is a lot. I thought 80 was conservative but.. Maybe if we only build like, 25.

 

 

 

All the same, if they're stealthed, would it not mean that heat seaking missiles wouldn't work? And modern aircraft would move at immense speed, so surely it would be hard to aim where you think they'll be?

 

 

 

I'm trying to be realistic here.

[jasignhagj]

Our shuttles have returned, and another 750 civilians, 100 soldiers and supplies are being sent. Our colony is still mostly a tent city, but the framework for houses is being built. The soldiers are just to act as a police force.

 

 

 

oh and dusty, i hope that was a joke.

[Nero]

Our shuttles have returned, and another 750 civilians, 100 soldiers and supplies are being sent. Our colony is still mostly a tent city, but the framework for houses is being built. The soldiers are just to act as a police force.

 

 

 

oh and dusty, i hope that was a joke.

 

 

 

Of course not. My unicorns feed off the blood of the unbelieving, fart lighting, and [cabbage] pure gold. I for one welcome our new unicorn overlords.

 

 

 

Oh my, 3 billion. That is a lot. I thought 80 was conservative but.. Maybe if we only build like, 25.

 

 

 

All the same, if they're stealthed, would it not mean that heat seaking missiles wouldn't work? And modern aircraft would move at immense speed, so surely it would be hard to aim where you think they'll be?

 

 

 

I'm trying to be realistic here.

 

 

 

How do you plan on propelling such a massive thing while masking its heat?

[a_bert]

I'll use God.

[Wisp]

Oh my, 3 billion. That is a lot. I thought 80 was conservative but.. Maybe if we only build like, 25.

 

 

 

All the same, if they're stealthed, would it not mean that heat seaking missiles wouldn't work? And modern aircraft would move at immense speed, so surely it would be hard to aim where you think they'll be?

 

 

 

I'm trying to be realistic here.

 

25 should be ok for a start.

 

Stealth is mostly for radar, since everything puts out heat pretty much. The problem with getting the missiles to lock on is the fact that finding a stealth bomber is hard, especially if they're camouflaged to fit in with the sky from the bottom. And they fly very high up. So if you were able to find the stealth bomber, you could lock onto it, but finding it is the hard part.

 

 

 

And dusty, don't forget, they're invisible too.