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[Guest]

 

 

 

We created the grenade launchers for a reason. And don't say we can't launch one of these with a 6000 PSI air tank.

 

 

 

Yeah, I can. I used to have a a 4500 psi paintball gun. That shoots a 3.5 gram paintball like two hundred feet.

 

You said yours shoots a 17 pound grenade (roughly 1,800 times heavier) 500 feet, with a 25% more compressed tank.

 

 

 

Honestly, the tank is going to be about 4x more powerful from any paintball gun.

 

 

 

Reasoning:

 

 

 

When you air up your gun, 4500 PSI doesn't go into your gun. no more then 800 PSI physicaly enters your gun, usually only 200-400 (Look on the air regulator), and then small amounts are realesed per shot. My launcher uses 2000 PSI per shot. Trust me, thats stronger then any paintball gun around.

[Wisp]

Well, either way, your shooting something 1800 times heavier 2-5 times as far.

[Latinoking]

I agree that the war was handle poorly.

[Guest]

Well, either way, your shooting something 1800 times heavier 2-5 times as far.

 

 

 

Ok. For the sake of this argument, I'll change it to 200 feet.

 

 

 

And Latino, can you make me an offer on them?

 

 

 

-Thanks

[Hedgehog]

Findenland has adopted a policy of peace. We will not be involved in any foreign affairs, except from trade, from now on. My barbecue recipe is still being tweaked, but it will soon be super perfect. After the barbecue is done, I'm thinking of making a good pizza recipe. Actually, I have a better idea, I'll make a whole cookbook of perfect recipes, then sell copies to help raise my GDP. I'm a genius.

 

If Dusty we smart, he would've studied the light saber I dropped for him during the war, but it's too late now. On another note, I have ordered a less faulty version from my scientists, it should take 3 days real time.

 

By the way, if any country wants to buy my cookbook when its finished, I'll sell copies for $35 each.

 

 

 

EDIT: I like your strategy, but we all should agree on it before we are allowed to attack someone.

[Seraphi]

That's great and all, but few people here seem to understand how warfare works. I could put 200,000 troops down on the ground in western europe, and they could last for years. It's not like millions of people would be fighting eachother at once. If 1000 troops were well entrenched in a base with good anti air capabilities, and lots of supplies, they could last against millions of enemy troops, in theory. The defender almost always has the advantage. That's why the Axis lasted so long in WWII, even though they had a lot less people, and killed way more Allies. Imagine in real life, an army of 1,000,000 is up against new york city. All civilians have been evacuated, and there are 10,000 defenders throughout the city. The defenders could hide in thousands of different buildings, set traps, ambush small groups, and probably kill a huge chunk of the attacking force. The city has tens of thousands of buildings and alleys, and sewers, and access tunnels. The attackers would have to go building to building, room to room, in order to defeat the defenders, even though they outnumber them 100 to 1. Now imagine the defenders have 25 million square kilometers to hide in. That's why Germany would still have an advantage even if they were outnumbered 10-1, if they used the correct strategies.

 

 

 

This is why both people come up with a scenario and the war judge comes up with the numbers realistically.

 

 

 

Okay, I'll play out a scenario here.

 

[hide=Scenario]Player one: I march my troops towards city X, with hope of conquering it.

 

Player two: I shall evacuate all my citizens, and place my troops in buildings around the city, resorting to a kind of urban guerilla warfare.

 

Judge: The probability of conquering the city is incredibly low, so lets give an instant win a 3% chance, the chance of player one winning is also very low, so lets give that 3% as well.

 

94% chance of skirmishes breaking down in the city.

 

So, 1-3 = Player one wins, 4-6 = Player two wins

 

7-100 = Skirmishes break down in the city

 

 

 

Result: 91

 

 

 

Player one and two now need to rethink their tactics.

 

 

 

Player one: Order an immediate retreat.

 

Player two: Call for backup from the troops in the outer reaches.

 

Judge: The chance of escaping the city with a reasonable number of troops(65%+) left is fairly high, at 80%.

 

The chance of escaping with massive losses (40%- troops remain) is 20%.

 

Chance of backup arriving in time to intercept is 75%, chances of them getting cleanly away is 25%.

 

 

 

Two rolls are now needed.

 

Roll #1

 

1-20 = take heavy losses and escape

 

21-100 = take some losses and escape

 

 

 

roll #2

 

1-75-Backup intercepts your retreat about 1.5 miles from the city

 

76-100 = Backup arrives too late, and your troops are about 1 mile ahead.

 

 

 

Result:

 

17

 

 

 

Result:

 

24

 

 

 

P1 takes heavy losses, and his retreat is intercepted.

 

-Continue for the rest of the turns-[/hide]

 

 

 

That is basically how my system would work, is it acceptable?

 

 

 

(I did actually use the generator on that website to determine those results, and changed the tactics in my head, just to show that in can be used effectivly)

 

 

 

 

 

Edit: Thanks For finding my rules.

[Wisp]

I think air pressure wouldn't work at all. It would also be stupid, because something like a missile is dependent on the round itself to make it go. Whereas, in the middle of a fight, you could just run out of pressurized air in the tank. I don't really see any reason for having something like that when you could just have a missile launcher or something.

 

I'll think about that. Maybe we should just see what the situation is next time there's a war.

[Nero]

If Dusty we smart, he would've studied the light saber I dropped for him during the war, but it's too late now. On another note, I have ordered a less faulty version from my scientists, it should take 3 days real time.

 

To do that I would've had to acknowledge that you actually had control of Berlin, which wasn't going to happen. And the fact that such a stupid weapon could exist, which also wasn't going to happen.

 

 

 

"Hi, I've got a winbutton so you can NEVER HAVE FUN IN A WAR WITH ME AHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHA"

 

It's not a win button. It's a deterrant button. It would [bleep] everyone up, including the person who used it.

 

 

 

I don't really think that's how it happened. (Though I agree most of it was a mess)

 

That's actually exactly what happened.

 

 

 

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It looks good Ross.

[Hedgehog]

If Dusty we smart, he would've studied the light saber I dropped for him during the war, but it's too late now. On another note, I have ordered a less faulty version from my scientists, it should take 3 days real time.

 

To do that I would've had to acknowledge that you actually had control of Berlin, which wasn't going to happen. And the fact that such a stupid weapon could exist, which also wasn't going to happen.

 

 

I never thought of it like that. The only thing is, I was pretending to be a Jedi while flying over your country when I dropped the light saber over your city. If it were stronger, then it would have blown up your whole city, but it only made a pothole. I'll make a post regarding how the latest version supposedly works.

[a_bert]

"Hi, I've got a winbutton so you can NEVER HAVE FUN IN A WAR WITH ME AHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHA"

 

It's not a win button. It's a deterrant button. It would [bleep] everyone up, including the person who used it.

 

 

 

i.e. it doesn't matter if I'm screwed as long as everyone else is because I'm that sort of person! >:D

 

 

 

I don't really think that's how it happened. (Though I agree most of it was a mess)

 

That's actually exactly what happened.

 

 

 

I object, because I think it was me who said drones were attacking, up until then I had no idea what was going on in Africa.

 

 

 

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It looks good Ross.

 

 

 

Yes

 

 

 

[Dusty, I have nothing against you, it's just better to argue and engage my brain than sit here passively and allow inaccuracies - on both sides - to go unnoticed]

[Nero]

I object, because I think it was me who said drones were attacking, up until then I had no idea what was going on in Africa.

 

I could go dig up the sequence of events, but I can't be arsed to.

 

 

 

Yes

 

 

 

[Dusty, I have nothing against you, it's just better to argue and engage my brain than sit here passively and allow inaccuracies - on both sides - to go unnoticed]

 

No worries, I do the same.

[Seraphi]

Yes, I designed my system so that the more strategic person will usually win unless a string of bad numbers appears.

 

But thats how war goes, there is an element of chance.

 

 

 

And details make your plan even more successful - Numbers, exact directions, equipment and such only serves to increase your chances.

 

 

 

Can we devote a few pages to a test run - A theoriatical World War V, that turns out to be a hallucination we all experienced after eating some bad shrimp at a world council meeting?

 

Just to test the war mechanic, all goes back to normal afterwards.

 

 

 

Anyone up for it?

[i_love_burritos]

I've changed my mind, India will go to Rocco.

 

 

 

Why ?

 

 

 

Rocco is highly underqualified.

[Guest]

Yes, I designed my system so that the more strategic person will usually win unless a string of bad numbers appears.

 

But thats how war goes, there is an element of chance.

 

 

 

And details make your plan even more successful - Numbers, exact directions, equipment and such only serves to increase your chances.

 

 

 

Can we devote a few pages to a test run - A theoriatical World War V, that turns out to be a hallucination we all experienced after eating some bad shrimp at a world council meeting?

 

Just to test the war mechanic, all goes back to normal afterwards.

 

 

 

Anyone up for it?

 

 

 

I'd be.

[a_bert]

Anyone up for it?

 

 

 

Yes, sure.

 

 

 

Also, considering India is Adrenal's country, shouldn't it be his decision who the country goes to?..

[walka92]

Yes, I designed my system so that the more strategic person will usually win unless a string of bad numbers appears.

 

But thats how war goes, there is an element of chance.

 

 

 

And details make your plan even more successful - Numbers, exact directions, equipment and such only serves to increase your chances.

 

 

 

Can we devote a few pages to a test run - A theoriatical World War V, that turns out to be a hallucination we all experienced after eating some bad shrimp at a world council meeting?

 

Just to test the war mechanic, all goes back to normal afterwards.

 

 

 

Anyone up for it?

 

 

 

I'd be.

im in

[Seraphi]

Cool, now we just need Dusty, and Doom will probably act as judge.

[Latinoking]

I get to use my FX-Talon! OH SNAP.

[Grim_]

Yes, I designed my system so that the more strategic person will usually win unless a string of bad numbers appears.

 

But thats how war goes, there is an element of chance.

 

 

 

And details make your plan even more successful - Numbers, exact directions, equipment and such only serves to increase your chances.

 

 

 

Can we devote a few pages to a test run - A theoriatical World War V, that turns out to be a hallucination we all experienced after eating some bad shrimp at a world council meeting?

 

Just to test the war mechanic, all goes back to normal afterwards.

 

 

 

Anyone up for it?

 

 

 

I'd be.

im in

 

Same here and to begin this hallucination off I would like to invade russia

 

Also (non hallucination) Malaysia has its space station up \ rail gun research should be done in 3 years as should rfg research (which will be started now)

[Guest]

Now would be a good time to buy those grenades, Latino :|

[Grim_]

Now would be a good time to buy those grenades, Latino :|

 

Actually cause this is a hallucination... Im calling off my attack on russia and attacking cambodia/burma :shock:

[Latinoking]

The blimps of fuel to refuel my planes are now set up.

 

 

 

Now would be a good time to buy those grenades, Latino :|

 

Check your PM.

[Guest]

Now would be a good time to buy those grenades, Latino :|

 

Actually cause this is a hallucination... Im calling off my attack on russia and attacking cambodia/burma :shock:

 

 

 

That is very uncool. Very well, defences are being setup around the nation of burma.

[Nero]

I've changed my mind, India will go to Rocco.

 

 

 

Why ?

 

 

 

Rocco is highly underqualified.

 

 

 

Well then you choose someone

 

 

 

The blimps of fuel to refuel my planes are now set up.

 

:lol:

 

 

 

Germania is reinforcing its borders, I'll draw something up to show you when I get around to it. It should take 7 or 8 years for the project to be completed, and will provide employment for around 300,000 workers.

[Seraphi]

Grim, we aren't starting the fake war until we are sure Dusty is in and Doom can act as judge.

 

Either Doom or Indy, anyways, as they are the two most neutral countries.