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Anyway... I am probably gonna be busy until Thursday now, and after thursday I will be busy till Sunday(then I am fully back(yay))

If no one has any objections I will leave the thread open for discussion but suspend the game until Wednesday night and saturday night, respectively.

[a_bert]

Can someone just quickly explain how Japan managed to become under siege?

[Retech]

No clue. When you mean suspend the game, it means that we can give our attacks and stuff to you, and you'll calculate it Wednesday night, am I correct?

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Retech got annoyed that Sere double/triple/quadruple or something crossed him, and so is gonna make sure he gets something for all his efforts...I think is the basic sentiment. Basically he has surrounded the islands.

[a_bert]

No, give me numbers, please.

[Nero]

Space battle report:

 

Germania:

33 Battleships

141 Carriers

 

NWO:

67 Battleships

300 Helios Spheres

250 Fighters

 

Ending ships:

35 Rhadamanthus Class

20 Cataclysm Class

 

That is all.

 

NWO have orbital supremacy.

 

Earth Report to follow.

 

?

 

My ships would be sticking close to Earth, since I had space supremacy. I had two massive space battlestations there, the area would've been covered by my E2S missiles, E2S Fighter coverage, and half of Bulgaria's space fleet was there (not to mention Brazil's ships).

 

I don't quite understand how 67 Battleships and 250 fighters (not counting Helios orbs, as we have already discussed that they're not feasible offensive weapons) managed to take out:

33 Germanian Battleships (with Dirithanium plating)

141 Germanian Carriers

Around 2000 Fighters

At least 2 Brazilian Super-Battleships

25 Bulgarian Battlecruisers

5 Bulgarian Behemoth Class cruisers

150 Bulgarian Fighters

 

So,

67 Battleships + 250 Fighters

vs

35 Battleships, 141 Carriers, 2150 Fighters, and 30 Battlecruisers + E2S Missiles & an additional 1000 or so E2S Fighters.

 

Besides, where did these Battleships come from anyways? That's nearly the entire Aether fleet, and if they were near Earth, then how are they blockading a planet lightyears away?

 

Also, how did Sere's military strength somehow grow by 100m+ in the last turn? And if it did, how did those civilian militias managed to defeat Germania's 80m regular highly-trained troops equipped with the best military gear in the world? Not forgetting how Russian partisans would join on my side as well.

 

Also not really sure how Britannia would manage to advance at all during that round, considering they were under attack by roughly 100m troops.

 

Can you explain how you got these results? Because it doesn't really make sense to me.

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I was not told about E2S stuff. No one has sent me Bulgarian figures and I assumed that Brazil's ships were destroyed.

Since Doom didn't give me the figures and I didn't know Bulgaria had any....

Also, how did Sere's military strength somehow grow by 100m+ in the last turn? And if it did, how did those civilian militias managed to defeat Germania's 80m regular highly-trained troops equipped with the best military gear in the world?

I just do what I am told. But as far as I can see the Holy Empire is providing 50 million, and Kamino is providing some people, as well as Malaysia....To be honest if they are drawing on all resources they could probably generate another 50 million, but then I would have to say that they have pushed a bit too far.

Also the forces on the Boarder were dug in, so your advantage was somewhat negated.

Additional to that was the employment of mine fields.

[Nero]

I was not told about E2S stuff. No one has sent me Bulgarian figures and I assumed that Brazil's ships were destroyed.

Since Doom didn't give me the figures and I didn't know Bulgaria had any....

Also, how did Sere's military strength somehow grow by 100m+ in the last turn? And if it did, how did those civilian militias managed to defeat Germania's 80m regular highly-trained troops equipped with the best military gear in the world?

I just do what I am told. But as far as I can see the Holy Empire is providing 50 million, and Kamino is providing some people, as well as Malaysia....To be honest if they are drawing on all resources they could probably generate another 50 million, but then I would have to say that they have pushed a bit too far.

Also the forces on the Boarder were dug in, so your advantage was somewhat negated.

Additional to that was the employment of mine fields.

The border wasn't where the main assault was though. 30 million troops to break one border region (fail to see how digging in can stop an assault like that) and then circle around. Also, you could just ask about defenses, as you did with Ross before when we had the last space battle. I think the results should be re-calced for this space battle.

 

Also, if they're pulling troops from all the NWO countries, then how is Egypt defending itself? Kamino doesn't really have a military either, and the only military stuff that Kamino has is on Mars.

And I sent you the Bulgarian Fleet's numbers a while back.

[Seraphi]

I didn't know that the Braziliian fleet or the Bulgarian fleet were there.

Also, the Helios orbs are a capable offensive weapon.

My ships were designed specifically to be extremely hard to hit with missiles, and I don't think any of your ships use energy weapons (If they do, we may have to recalculate. It's up to Archi though)

 

Either way, both of us will be taking a large loss now.

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Hmmm, fair enough, you give me the statistics and I will factor them in. And I did try to ask but you were not around until just recently.

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I reiterate... I am only doing what I am told.

[Nero]

I didn't know that the Braziliian fleet or the Bulgarian fleet were there.

Also, the Helios orbs are a capable offensive weapon.

My ships were designed specifically to be extremely hard to hit with missiles, and I don't think any of your ships use energy weapons (If they do, we may have to recalculate. It's up to Archi though)

 

Either way, both of us will be taking a large loss now.

Bulgaria's ships use ion cannons.

 

And no, Helios orbs are not capable offensive weapons. They're slow, ungainly, used as static defenses, and the friendly fire would be just as prone to take out your ships as it would be mine.

 

Hmmm, fair enough, you give me the statistics and I will factor them in. And I did try to ask but you were not around until just recently.

33 Germanian Battleships (with Dirithanium plating)

141 Germanian Carriers

Around 2000 Fighters

At least 2 Brazilian Super-Battleships

25 Bulgarian Battlecruisers

5 Bulgarian Behemoth Class cruisers

150 Bulgarian Fighters

 

So,

67 Battleships + 250 Fighters

vs

35 Battleships, 141 Carriers, 2150 Fighters, and 30 Battlecruisers + E2S Missiles & an additional 1000 or so E2S Fighters.

 

My fighters also carry nukes (probably 1 every 10 fighters, due to the cost).

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Right, so do bulgarian/brazilian ships have weapons, if so how powerful...that sort of information....

[a_bert]

Can I engage my fleet in this as well? You have the details in your pm, Archi.

[Retech]

Dungeon, I don't need to give you numbers. :)

 

I have sent Arch the information, and I'm sure that he will keep it in the highest secrecy.

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I don't see why not, but this battle is for this turn just gone, not next turn. Only NWO and Dusty's allies can get involved.

[Seraphi]

HELIOS ORBS DO NOT HAVE ANY FRIENDLY FIRE ISSUES.

 

My computers are the most advanced in the world. My people can "See" the world even though they do not have eyes. I have defensive railguns which can target a moving missile and destroy it before it even gets close to the hull. Please explain to me why the hell I would create a defense system which shoots at any ship in the area? They still have cameras, and they still identify my ships.

 

My ships were designed with the intention to negate missiles and bombs which are targeting them. They are designed this way because I always knew I would end up fighting you, and I knew that you specialised in that sort of thing.

 

Yes, Germanian ships will do damage, but it wont be much at all compared to what the Bulgarian ships will do.

[Nero]

Can I engage my fleet in this as well? You have the details in your pm, Archi.

Were they part of the original attack?

 

 

Bulgari'a Fleet uses Ion cannons which can blast through regular hulls, their fighters are the same as mine.

Basically, the Ion cannons are pretty much the same capabilities as ARC cannons, just a different three letter word (name).

 

My computers are the most advanced in the world. My people can "See" the world even though they do not have eyes. I have defensive railguns which can target a moving missile and destroy it before it even gets close to the hull. Please explain to me why the hell I would create a defense system which shoots at any ship in the area? They still have cameras, and they still identify my ships.

Doesn't really matter how advanced they are, you're firing weapons that don't have self-correcting attributes. One of those things shoots and misses, that shot is going to keep going until it hits something, friendly or not.

 

My ships were designed with the intention to negate missiles and bombs which are targeting them. They are designed this way because I always knew I would end up fighting you, and I knew that you specialised in that sort of thing.

And my ships were designed to defend specifically against yours (well, the NWO's, but you all have the exact same weapons), so neither of us have an advantage. It basically comes down to numbers.

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Sere's original attack was 'PM Dungeonal and Ross for fleet specs' or something like that, so I guess those two and Sere can send ships.

[Seraphi]

I doubt they're the same efficiency and power. I've currently spent near 25 trillion in total on my ARC cannon research, discounting the cost of the Ares cannon, which was about 15 trillion by itself.

 

Dusty, the ARC cannons don't fire simultaniously, the cameras check which direction enemy ships are in, correct themselves with small jets and then fire in that direction.

 

And I'm heading out now. Night all.

[Nero]

I doubt they're the same efficiency and power. I've currently spent near 25 trillion in total on my ARC cannon research, discounting the cost of the Ares cannon, which was about 15 trillion by itself.

 

Dusty, the ARC cannons don't fire simultaniously, the cameras check which direction enemy ships are in, correct themselves with small jets and then fire in that direction.

 

And I'm heading out now. Night all.

 

25 trillion? What? There's no way you've spent 25 trillion on the things, as that was like 50 turns of your income.

Also, my pilots can't turn apparently?

 

Where did the ships come from anyways?

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It basically comes down to numbers.

Actually your Carriers don't really count for much, probably 100=10 battle ships.

 

But yeah, if you just want to go for standard annihilation tactics then it breaks down like this(at the moment):

Ross:

2 Super Heavy battleships

20 Heavy Battleships

45 Battleships

3000 Fighters(Converted from Helios Spheres)

 

Dusty:

7 Heavy Battleships

58 Battleships

2500 Fighters

+15 Battlehips from Carriers so 73 in total)

[Retech]

I'm just going to assume that currency in this game is not subject to exchange rates.

[Nero]

3000 Fighters(Converted from Helios Spheres)

 

What?

And if we're going to go with classes to Battleships then all of mine are Heavy.

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Since a Helios Sphere is technically a six sided fighter(Ross has a speciality with AIs so it is basically the same as a fighter). Now something with six sides would be twice as effective because it can engage more than one target at a time, also it cannot be flanked, so it is twice as effective again. So each Sphere is worth 2*2*2(8) and so that is 2400 fighters, and the 250 other fighters, so thats 2650(ok it is short 350 but mainly because I was going from a 3 times as effective, but realised that was unfair, since most of the time it would not be engaging more than 1 target at a time)