Retech Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Well I suppose that is true, but you could turn the argument on its head. You could say that one of my cruisers could shoot at supersonic speeds towards the ARC and it would "only" have a few seconds to react. Master of your domain? I am Lord of the manor, Queen of the castle, King of the county! Former moderator of the original DungeoneeringFormer moderator of Ye Olde HegemonyModerator of the remake of DungeoneeringFormer Empress of the Lichten Empire (Hegemony)Former President of the United States (Hegemony)Former Emporer of Imperial Japan (Hegemony)Czarina Catherine of Imperial Russia (Hegemony The only difference between a disagreement between friends, an argument between strangers, and a feud between enemies is the ability to reconcile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archimage_a Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 You could, but you would not be diving into a planet so your speed would probably be less than 19,000 MPHAnyway: Ok, based on the Annihilation calculation, with both sides having the same modifier, Ross wins by 1 Super Heavy Battleship, 7 Heavy Battleships, 7 Battleships and 8 Fighters(17,780) So casualties are thus:Dusty:1 Space Station (50,000)(The one protecting North America)2 Super Battleships (10,000)45 Heavy Battleships (1,000)13 Battleships (100)3500 Fighters (10)5000 E2S Missiles (5)144 Carriers (50) NWO:3 Ultra Heavy Battleships (20,000) (Pax Britannia, Birthright, Ragnarok)2 Super Battleships (10,000)23 Heavy Battleships (1,000)58 Battleships (100)242 Fighters (10)300 Helios Spheres (400)1 Ares Cannon(5,000)(Non-firing, is here because Dusty sent some ships to destroy it while the rest of the fleet was engaged) Out of:Dusty:1 Space Station (50,000)(The one protecting North America)2 Super Battleships (10,000)45 Heavy Battleships (1,000)13 Battleships (100)3,500 Fighters (10)5,000 E2S Missiles (5)144 Carriers (50) NWO:3 Ultra Heavy Battleships (20,000) (Pax Britannia, Birthright, Ragnarok)3 Super Battleships (10,000)30 Heavy Battleships (1,000)65 Battleships (100)250 Fighters (10)300 Helios Spheres (400)1 Ares Cannon(5,000) ____________ The remaining ships then opened fire on Mainland America and the Bering Straights, wasting all of Doom's ships protecting mainland America/Canada, as well as setting the forests/jungles ablaze. In addition to this the American ground based missile stations are completely destroyed and full spy sat pictures are taken. http://www.uzzisoft..../archimage.jpegWell I knew you wouldn't agree. I know how you hate facing facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archimage_a Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 In other news my 4 Caravels are set to arrive tommorow, at which point they will be the largest fleet in the Sol system...Bow before me! :rolleyes: Also if anyone has any problems with the above I shall be on for the next hour. http://www.uzzisoft..../archimage.jpegWell I knew you wouldn't agree. I know how you hate facing facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retech Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 I'd think that since Doom basically owns a fortress of two continents, spy satellite pictures wouldn't do anything. Also, it seems unlikely that the attack would destroy all American missle systems. After all, she does have a lot. Master of your domain? I am Lord of the manor, Queen of the castle, King of the county! Former moderator of the original DungeoneeringFormer moderator of Ye Olde HegemonyModerator of the remake of DungeoneeringFormer Empress of the Lichten Empire (Hegemony)Former President of the United States (Hegemony)Former Emporer of Imperial Japan (Hegemony)Czarina Catherine of Imperial Russia (Hegemony The only difference between a disagreement between friends, an argument between strangers, and a feud between enemies is the ability to reconcile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archimage_a Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 The ships do have the best part of a year to lay waste to the missile stations. Since Her bases as so far beneath ground there is no chance of hurting civilians, or else the ships would certainly not be firing(or at least not with out the expressed wishes of Sere or Ross) http://www.uzzisoft..../archimage.jpegWell I knew you wouldn't agree. I know how you hate facing facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wisp Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Alright I guess the fact that I have orbital defenses that I told you about in PM wasn't made clear enough, so we'll just pretend they were somewhere else at the time. I might not have specified the #'s, but in total they would be: 14 Production/semi-battle stations,3 Battlestations250 anti ship satellites (way bigger than helios spheres For ease, we can pretend that they weren't there, but they still prevented firing on the Americas. So no forests on fire, or lack of basic icbm countermeasures. But other than that we can just pretend they didn't exist, since I doubt you want to redo the whole thing *again*. Also, construction of my fleet is going well. Started 1 month and 3 days ago (I can post a pm once I'm done with it all for proof)The system they're in is 480 lightyears away, with my entire fleet there including a ton of ships designed to deploy into production stations. Indy's entire space efforts were going there as well. Hegemony-Spain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retech Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 There exists a system that is 480 lightyears away? Imagine how long that would take to get there. Master of your domain? I am Lord of the manor, Queen of the castle, King of the county! Former moderator of the original DungeoneeringFormer moderator of Ye Olde HegemonyModerator of the remake of DungeoneeringFormer Empress of the Lichten Empire (Hegemony)Former President of the United States (Hegemony)Former Emporer of Imperial Japan (Hegemony)Czarina Catherine of Imperial Russia (Hegemony The only difference between a disagreement between friends, an argument between strangers, and a feud between enemies is the ability to reconcile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archimage_a Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Der me, are we allowed to do that then, travel beyond the limits? Sigh, well let us consider that the battle only took place on the very reaches of the bering straights, so that ships could just beat the curvature of the Earth to destroy the ships and thus were not-within the range of the battle stations or many anti-ship satellites. In any even now I know I can factor them, though I doubt we shall have a space conflict soon again. Anyway, to standardize the rules of space combat:Super Space Stations, (such as Kent in Adrigas, when it is at full capacity with full complement) are worth 1,000,000 points.Super Space Stations(U), (Such as Kent in Adrigas, when it is below capacity) are worth 200,000+whatever complement it does have.Ultra Space Stations, (Can't think of any) are worth 200,000Sa Matra, (Super vessels), are worth 200,000 but there can only be 1 at a time in the whole universeBattle Space Stations, (Doom's) are worth 150,000 but have no capacity to repair shipsEndeavorer Stations, (Like the three I am building) are worth 100,000 with the main purpose of repairing ships and producing fighters(it has very little in the way of defense itself)Furlong Fortresses, (Basically a heavy(Long+Mid+Short range) weapons platform) are worth 90,000 points but cannot repair, rearm or otherwise interface with ships.Space Stations, (Short and mid ranged weapons platforms, like the one destroyed this turn) are worth 50,000 points and cannot repair ect.Ultra Heavy Battleships, (Extremely powerful vessels) are worth 20,000 pointsSuper Battleships, (Powerful vessels) are worth 10,000 pointsHeavy Battleships, (Better than average vessels) are worth 1,000 pointsGreat Fortresses, (Mid range weapons platform) are worth 500 points and cannot repair ect.Blank Fortresses, (Short range weapons platform) are worth 400 points and cannot repair ect.Overload Fortresses, (Long range weapons platform) are worth 300 points and cannot repair ectBattleships, (Standard warships) are worth 100Escorts, (All manner of weaker ships) are worth 50Fighters, (Ships that require another ship to support it) are worth 10Missiles, (Specified missiles fired from places outside the battle) are worth 5Transports/Carriers, (Unarmed vessels) are worth 0 Each race can generate its own modifiers based on the exact configuration of their vessels. There are also innate modifiers, dependent on what you have in your fleet... Say you have 50 Super Battleships, your fleet is going to be slow but powerful, making it strong against mid ranged weapons, but weak against long range weapons. Similarly if your fleet is mainly fighters you get a bonus against mid ranged weapons, and are weak against short range weapons. So I will assign your ships into categories if you do not state what type of ship they are(Also please be realistic about ships, if you are not then I will reassign your vessels)For your ease you can use the abbreviations:SSSSSSUUSSSMBSSESFFSSUHBSBHBGFBFOFBEFMissiles and transports should be fairly obvious to spot so... Please PM me about what modifiers you think you should have, after that you can pretty much forget all of this(unless you design a new ship) because I will apply it for you in combat. Happy? http://www.uzzisoft..../archimage.jpegWell I knew you wouldn't agree. I know how you hate facing facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Lord Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Poor, poor Archi. :( SWAG Mayn U wanna be like me but U can't be me cuz U ain't got ma swagga on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archimage_a Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Ok, I think that all things have been tied up so I am officially offline until Wednesday night or Thursday day. Again if there is some urgent matter then please email me, do not PM me as there is chance I will not open it until then. I am going to leave this thread open, but I do not expect anything substantive to be posted, you are, of course, free to suggest ways of improving the roleplay and such. http://www.uzzisoft..../archimage.jpegWell I knew you wouldn't agree. I know how you hate facing facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Lord Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Ok, I think that all things have been tied up so I am officially offline until Wednesday night or Thursday day. Again if there is some urgent matter then please email me, do not PM me as there is chance I will not open it until then. I am going to leave this thread open, but I do not expect anything substantive to be posted, you are, of course, free to suggest ways of improving the roleplay and such. Can we still feed you battle plans through PM? SWAG Mayn U wanna be like me but U can't be me cuz U ain't got ma swagga on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RpgGamer Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Christ that's a complex warhship system. But nesesary. Still on auto pilot, but I've colonized Qyella by now. Destroyer ship and 3 carriers are returning to mars. the 4th will stay in orbit for another year or so. Quote Quote Anyone who likes tacos is incapable of logic. Anyone who likes logic is incapable of tacos. PSA: SaqPrets is an Estonian Dude Steam: NippleBeardTM Origin: Brand_New_iPwn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retech Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 I am constructing a new space station above Japan. It is composed of 3 rings which rotate around a center point. The center point and each of the 3 rings will take 5 turns to construct, and each piece that goes up adds 50,000 to its point value. Unfortunately, being only equipped with thrusters to maintain its position over Japan, the space station cannot attack unless it is being attacked. It's mainly equipped with rotating energy cannons and a special "shrapnel burst" system. What happens is that during a battle, highly explosive shells fitted with millions of little shards are detonated into the air. The station is specially designed to absorb this fire, but enemy ships may not be so lucky. With both the shrapnel and the enemy ship flying at high speeds, it is a potent weapon. The station is powered by a highly controlled nuclear fission reactor. Defensively, the station is strong but then again you could just go around it. Fighter pilots train in 4 years. Fighters are basically designed for a one-time trip from Earth to the Space station. They cannot enter warp drive, and are only designed for defence of the station. They are mass produced cheaply and easily due to the hardy nature of the Lichtes, namely heat is not a concern. They are powered by a rechargable hydrogen battery (like those new cars). Once it reaches the Space station, the "wings" are taken off to be replaced by vertical shields, designed mainly to block stray shrapnel blasts and laser fire. Master of your domain? I am Lord of the manor, Queen of the castle, King of the county! Former moderator of the original DungeoneeringFormer moderator of Ye Olde HegemonyModerator of the remake of DungeoneeringFormer Empress of the Lichten Empire (Hegemony)Former President of the United States (Hegemony)Former Emporer of Imperial Japan (Hegemony)Czarina Catherine of Imperial Russia (Hegemony The only difference between a disagreement between friends, an argument between strangers, and a feud between enemies is the ability to reconcile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Lord Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 You guys do realise that the game's on pause until Wednesday or Thursday, right? SWAG Mayn U wanna be like me but U can't be me cuz U ain't got ma swagga on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Mather1 Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 First we are moved to soft-RP, then he apparantly claims control of the game saying we can't play without him being available and now he tells us to make the game more RP, seems Archi wants us to become some RolePlaying slaves of his. Twitter: @TheMather1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphi Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Mather, be quiet. This game failed before Archi turned up. Uuh, Retech, when did you research energy weapons? And how does your station block the shrapnel from its own weapon? Production of Rhadamanthus battleships has ceased, and all current Rhadamanthus class ships will be scrapped and turned into Cataclysm ships. I think that's around 5 Cataclysm ships from the Rhadamanthus ships I have remaining (Going from the point order and rounding up). The capacity which is freed up by this will be devoted to producing more Cataclysm ships, and another new ship (UHB) will be designed shortly. The Helios orb design is going to be used in a new static defense platform, which I will explain in a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 So, I think nobody has space supremacy, considering both mine and the NWO's fleet were pretty much annihilated that turn.Oh, and Ross' Ares cannon hehe. Vienna Raszyn Warsaw Klushino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphi Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 I have a few more. It's a pretty fun plaything, so I had replacements built. Still, I'll need to get back to building a fleet <_< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 I have a few more. It's a pretty fun plaything, so I had replacements built. Still, I'll need to get back to building a fleet <_<You have a few more multi-trillion dollar death stars that cost billions to fire? Vienna Raszyn Warsaw Klushino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retech Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 The shrapnel things is pretty easy to explain. Even though my station really doesn't have too much armor compared to your massive battleships, what makes all the difference is the fact that the station is stationary, so the shrapnel doesn't affect it nearly as much as a fighter who was flying into shrapnel. Energy weaponary doesn't mean literal "using energy as a weapon". Its more of the shrapnel/explosive power kind of weapon that has been around for years. Basically it just has been modified to work in an airless enviroment. Wait, you have more Ares cannons?!? Master of your domain? I am Lord of the manor, Queen of the castle, King of the county! Former moderator of the original DungeoneeringFormer moderator of Ye Olde HegemonyModerator of the remake of DungeoneeringFormer Empress of the Lichten Empire (Hegemony)Former President of the United States (Hegemony)Former Emporer of Imperial Japan (Hegemony)Czarina Catherine of Imperial Russia (Hegemony The only difference between a disagreement between friends, an argument between strangers, and a feud between enemies is the ability to reconcile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wisp Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 So, I think nobody has space supremacy, considering both mine and the NWO's fleet were pretty much annihilated that turn.Oh, and Ross' Ares cannon hehe.I'm guessing me and indy have the biggest fleets now, since we have been building it for 35 years off planet. It's a minimum of 9 or 10 years away though. Hegemony-Spain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retech Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 But that means that since Rocco and Doom are fighting NWO... Hey, does Ross still have enough ships to blockade my planet? I thought it was totally destroyed. Master of your domain? I am Lord of the manor, Queen of the castle, King of the county! Former moderator of the original DungeoneeringFormer moderator of Ye Olde HegemonyModerator of the remake of DungeoneeringFormer Empress of the Lichten Empire (Hegemony)Former President of the United States (Hegemony)Former Emporer of Imperial Japan (Hegemony)Czarina Catherine of Imperial Russia (Hegemony The only difference between a disagreement between friends, an argument between strangers, and a feud between enemies is the ability to reconcile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archimage_a Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Retech, I hate to point out the obvious but the NWO are the only people with non defensive space fleet. And Japan is deep within their zone of influence, so there are probably some space stations or something which would blow your ships out of the sky as they tried to build it.Also it takes at least 2 years to build a core module and 10 more years to build the rest of the station. Though its during a war so I guess it can be halved. So it will take 6 years to get 1 ring up, 16 years for the full project to get up and running. First we are moved to soft-RP, then he apparantly claims control of the game saying we can't play without him being available and now he tells us to make the game more RP, seems Archi wants us to become some RolePlaying slaves of his. Course I do, the fact that I sacrificed 8 hours of sleep(about 4 per night) because I thought people might want to play a round rather than go 10 days without a single round being played obviously means that I am on a power trip. Additionally if you wanted to just 1-hit kill everything you could go on the Arena and do that. I was invited on here because people were getting annoyed with never being able to kill anything because everyone could 1-hit kill everyone else. Also you can carry on playing if you want, but it will completely screw up the game, since there will be 3 3 year armistices in the middle of a massive war of backstabbing, or just one long 9 year one because I really can't be bothered to generate a map based on three days worth of 'No I owned you in Antarctica!!! Its all mine!' Can we still feed you battle plans through PM? Can do. (Going from the point order and rounding up)Ok....I am not terribly happy about the rounding up, so shall we say it takes 1 year for 4 of them and then 2 years for the other one, since it needs to be repaired. So, I think nobody has space supremacy, considering both mine and the NWO's fleet were pretty much annihilated that turnNah no one does, but NWO can blockade Sol, since there are no other ships in the area. Blockade could only hold off a few ships though. http://www.uzzisoft..../archimage.jpegWell I knew you wouldn't agree. I know how you hate facing facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retech Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 But is the blockade around MY planet still effective? I'm fine with a blockade on Sol. Master of your domain? I am Lord of the manor, Queen of the castle, King of the county! Former moderator of the original DungeoneeringFormer moderator of Ye Olde HegemonyModerator of the remake of DungeoneeringFormer Empress of the Lichten Empire (Hegemony)Former President of the United States (Hegemony)Former Emporer of Imperial Japan (Hegemony)Czarina Catherine of Imperial Russia (Hegemony The only difference between a disagreement between friends, an argument between strangers, and a feud between enemies is the ability to reconcile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphi Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Nah, the ships around your planet were pulled off. I think destroying a ton of your troops and carriers was enough warning that bad things will happen to you if you go to war with us. (I'm still going to fire on you if you try to enter Sol, for the record. And I don't think you have any combat based ships at the moment, so it'll really be a massacre, and a waste of troops and ships if you try to get more troops to Earth) Yes, I do have more Ares cannons. The research cost a lot of money, but that doesn't mean I can't produce them like I would a normal ship. And yes, they do cost a hell of a lot to fire, but they deal a hell of a lot of damage in return. For the record, I've also been building for a while. You destroyed about half my fleet, and that's a pretty big loss, but I did more damage to your side than you did to me, really. Besides, now that production of Rhadamanthus ships has been culled, I can start producing more Cataclysm, Hyperion and [New UHB ship name here]. As well as [New static defense name here]. Also, Doom, aren't we obliged to say how large our forces are, to prevent people from materializing troops and things out of nowhere?If we are, then I'll say mine, but otherwise, it'd be stupid to say it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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