Hegemony-V2 begins page 302

[The_Mather1]

I mean Dusty(apparently) created a drug which could be taken to allow people to survive in areas where the temperature was less than 0 Degrees C. This drug is limited to working at temperatures above -100 degress C. My people also created a permentant genetic alteration to allow people to survive at temperatures up to 100 degrees C(We also created modifications for up to 500 degree C but they went with us to deep space). Thus any race can survive in an environment between -100 and 100 degrees C.

 

Symbiots?

People can survive under 0 degrees C although not bellow -30 C.

 

And symbiots are goa'ulds, you (correctly)called them symbiots yourself three posts ago(your last except this I am responding to).

 

Dusty, how fast can you give all my people the mentioned drug? Cost does not matter(unless you want more than 250 t of course(although I would be able to pay)).

[archimage_a]

Its open market so you can produce it yourself...

 

Yeah, you hadn't included the number when I asked so.... Anyway.

 

Ok that saves 3,153,600 people, now you just have to save the other

37,996,846,400(20% of 190,000,000,000)

 

The plague kills in 7 days, there are 3 days without symptoms, then bubos appear on the 4th day, then they are entirely weakened by the 5th day and the 6th and 7th usually are completely incapable of moving. In total honesty it should be 20% per week but I thought that was overkill. If you want to try to fight it using symbiots then I am happy to do it per week. With 3,153,600 being saved every six hours(Shall we say because the Jaffa and Gouald will need some time to recover) so thats 12,600,000 a day. Assuming 15% are infected every day(28,500,000,000) Then it can't be protected against until the forth day, where there is a 24 hour window before they become unconscience and thus would require you to go to them after that, which would take an extra hour per implantion. Thus everyone (199,500,000,000) is infected after the first week and 126,000,000(10 days worth) are saved. Added to a 1% natural survivablity so 1,900,000,000 who survived anyway.

So total survival is 2,026,000,000 or 2 Billion after 2 weeks.(Plague effect ends thereafter)

 

I have to go so I look forwards to a responce.

[Seraphi]

I added my Hyperion ship to the Hegepedia.

[The_Mather1]

Its open market so you can produce it yourself...

 

Yeah, you hadn't included the number when I asked so.... Anyway.

 

Ok that saves 3,153,600 people, now you just have to save the other

37,996,846,400(20% of 190,000,000,000)

 

The plague kills in 7 days, there are 3 days without symptoms, then bubos appear on the 4th day, then they are entirely weakened by the 5th day and the 6th and 7th usually are completely incapable of moving. In total honesty it should be 20% per week but I thought that was overkill. If you want to try to fight it using symbiots then I am happy to do it per week. With 3,153,600 being saved every six hours(Shall we say because the Jaffa and Gouald will need some time to recover) so thats 12,600,000 a day. Assuming 15% are infected every day(28,500,000,000) Then it can't be protected against until the forth day, where there is a 24 hour window before they become unconscience and thus would require you to go to them after that, which would take an extra hour per implantion. Thus everyone (199,500,000,000) is infected after the first week and 126,000,000(10 days worth) are saved. Added to a 1% natural survivablity so 1,900,000,000 who survived anyway.

So total survival is 2,026,000,000 or 2 Billion after 2 weeks.(Plague effect ends thereafter)

 

I have to go so I look forwards to a responce.

Make that 3,153,600 people cured and made immune each hour(goa'ulds get tired only by the implantation(and recover while in host) and jaffa might need an hour to recover(two batches will get done per hour of treatment)) after the first batch taking 45 min

 

But ok, Atlantis is still underway and those onboard with medical knowledge start producing the drug which will be distributed as soon as people start arriving.

 

Just about now the symptoms have started and the blood samples are collected from the first batch, this is being searched for the correct antibodies.

[Seraphi]

I produce 4 Cataclysm ships, 2 Hyperion ships, and 1 production station this year. I've decided to do my production on a year by year basis instead of just automating it.

[Nero]

It's not an open market drug.

[archimage_a]

I've decided to do my production on a year by year basis instead of just automating it.

Makes my life slightly easier, yay!

 

 

Make that 3,153,600 people cured and made immune each hour

Actually immunity would not be possible, for obvouis reasons such as the hosts immune system being repressed by the symbiot....Therefore its not so much a complete cure as a temporary cure...and they would automatically reinfect themselves from the bubos. I had forgotten about that so thanks for bringing it up. Basically your survival rate would be 1.9 billion if we went weekly.

As for yearly 77 billion would survive until the cure was developed, though it would be much less realistic so the infection-death rate is increased to 50%(As opposed to 20%) (which is far more realistic for plague) so 11.9 billion survive.

 

It's not an open market drug.

Hmmm Sere/Ross said it was. Ah well.

[Nero]

Hmmm Sere/Ross said it was. Ah well.

Sere and Ross would say all my tech was open market if they thought they could get away with it :lol:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlcUwUwjLrs&feature=PlayList&p=D478D40C84D2E1CB&index=5

Yay BSG.

[archimage_a]

Ah well, I am not changing the habitality rating based on a petty issue of owner ship. If you go to a planet marked as habitable and don't buy Dusty's drug from him then you will, not so randomly, die. This random event will be called 'Ice Age'. However please note that planets between +1 Degree and +100 degrees are perfectly fine to settle on since the System of Free Worlds provided open source genetic modifers before they left. New races will have to buy them off an old race.

 

Boo BSG!

Up with Star Trek!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjbUu5MaEEg

[Nero]

Laser beams and photon torpedos? Pwaw, how silly!

[archimage_a]

.... Yggdrasil explodes and mysterious ships warp in to all of Dusty's other systems and spell out 'Star Trek Forever' on the inhabited worlds.

 

[/Joke]

=D

[Nero]

Oh dear

[Seraphi]

I could have sworn you said that your cold resistance drug was open market. Hm.

[Nero]

I could have sworn you said that your cold resistance drug was open market. Hm.

There was the plant that could grow in cold environments that I developed on Haven. Maybe that's what you're confusing it with.

 

The cold resistance drug was developed as military tech.

[The_Mather1]

Make that 3,153,600 people cured and made immune each hour

Actually immunity would not be possible, for obvouis reasons such as the hosts immune system being repressed by the symbiot....Therefore its not so much a complete cure as a temporary cure...and they would automatically reinfect themselves from the bubos. I had forgotten about that so thanks for bringing it up. Basically your survival rate would be 1.9 billion if we went weekly.

As for yearly 77 billion would survive until the cure was developed, though it would be much less realistic so the infection-death rate is increased to 50%(As opposed to 20%) (which is far more realistic for plague) so 11.9 billion survive.

The imunities of a goa'uld as well as the naquadah passes on in a hosts case, jaffa however doesn't even have an imunesystem without a symbiot(or tretonin). Also the word you were looking for was supressed which they could(like the actual control of the body) if they wanted to.

 

And I know I'm a little late(due to karate) but:

StarGate is(are) the best and (recognised by Guinness) biggest sci-fi show(s) of all times.

[archimage_a]

Yeah I guess so. Repression means 'eventually coming back' or 'eventually winning' where as supression means 'never coming back'

For instances supressing a book will mean it is never published, repressing a people means that they eventually explode into war.

 

Also spreading 1.5 k of people's worth of Naquahdah would probably dilute it beyond use.

If the immune system is not supressed then it would also fight the symbiot, and thus the damage would be quiet substantial....Also immediately after the symbiot was taken away the immune system would be too weak to resist even the most minor illness, so the patient would probably die anyway....Best case scenario is that you decrease the chance of death to 30% for the 151,372,800 you could treat per day(your symbiot population times 48(for the number of half hours in the day)) Which would amount to 1.5 billion 30%s or 1 billion saved.

 

So your total is now at 2.9 billion survival.

 

I didn'y mind the Star Gate opening, but then they went and modernised it and so it looked nasty...

[The_Mather1]

Yeah I guess so. Repression means 'eventually coming back' or 'eventually winning' where as supression means 'never coming back'

For instances supressing a book will mean it is never published, repressing a people means that they eventually explode into war.

 

Also spreading 1.5 k of people's worth of Naquahdah would probably dilute it beyond use.

If the immune system is not supressed then it would also fight the symbiot, and thus the damage would be quiet substantial....Also immediately after the symbiot was taken away the immune system would be too weak to resist even the most minor illness, so the patient would probably die anyway....Best case scenario is that you decrease the chance of death to 30% for the 151,372,800 you could treat per day(your symbiot population times 48(for the number of half hours in the day)) Which would amount to 1.5 billion 30%s or 1 billion saved.

 

So your total is now at 2.9 billion survival.

 

I didn'y mind the Star Gate opening, but then they went and modernised it and so it looked nasty...

The reason the hosts body doesn't fight back is because the goa'uld takes control of(not sur-/represses) it's immune system(so it is merely "ignoring" the goa'uld) as well as any other function, a goa'uld can even kill the host by merely wanting to.

 

Also the naquadah isn't the prime factor here, but the memory part of the "sticky" white blood cell, even if it was it could be fixed with an injection of liquid naquadah.

 

The antibody has been found and is being "copied" and distributed as we speak.

 

And Dusty, how long would it take you to distribute the drug to all my people if I paid you 150 trillions?

[archimage_a]

No it hasn't. If you want to play it like that then the whole thing is semantical because the plague finished about 15 minutes after it was first posted(Which is two weeks in game time) with 2.9 Billion survivors.

It takes 5 years to develop a cure.

 

The reason the hosts body doesn't fight back is because the goa'uld takes control of it's immune system

And the point of supressing it then is? If the symbiot can do whatever the hell it wants then what is the incentive for Tretonin, since the symbiot could give control back to the host when it left....

 

But fine. The population that survives is 3.6 Billion.

[Nero]

Mather there's no way you have 150trillion floating around unused. The entire gross GDP of the Earth is like, 1/3rd of that.

[archimage_a]

We already established that because of his entirely unreasonable population he has 300T floating around per turn.

[Nero]

Well then, I must have around 900T per turn.

[archimage_a]

It depends on how much you tax people and how much the average wage is... I don't want to get terribly bogged down in economics though so shall we assume the average galactic wage is 40,000 Dollars. You can set your tax rates off that.

 

Oh, and then there is the children aspect. So the higher your growth rate is the less people in your country get paid(since more of them are children)(Unless you want to do that). With a growth rate of 2% we assume that 50% of families have children, but everyone works(unless people want to factor unemployment but I won't force you) so 50% of people have children, and they have 2.4 children each. So just put this formula into excel:

 

=(Population-((((Population/100)*50)*(growth rate+(2*(growth rate/10))+((Population/100)*50))

 

Or for ease of acces put this in box A1

 

=(A2-((((A2/100)*50)*(2+(A3*(A3/10))+((A2/100)*50))

 

Then put your population in A2 and your growth rate in A3

 

Also if you want to fart about with any discrimination laws then you are free to mess about but make sure you have a (relatively) easy to explain formula for me explaining what the hell you are on about.

[Nero]

Well how much has Mather been taxing? 1100%?

[archimage_a]

Actually only 30%. But as you know 190 Billion * 40,000 * .3 = 300 T

 

Since you are effectively just adding 3 noughts on the end(Since 40,000 has 4 noughts and .3 has -1 nought) Then times-ing that number by 4 then by 3. I think.

[RpgGamer]

These numbers are preposterous. Can't we all just play modestly?

 

Looking at the latest Earth map (the one that I loved) I have a strange island off the coast of Madagascar taht I don't know the name of. I'm renaming it Jurasic. That's where my new cloning testing will be taking place. It's still closed to the public eye, and is still under contruction. So, it's not really anything at the moment.

 

TerrAvenger II is complete and will be launching off of Qyella today. Maybe it will have similiar luck to the first TerrAvenger (I hope it has more luck then the previous probes anyway). The difference between TerrAvenger and the TerrAvengerII is a warp drive (standard 50x light speed), plnatiation of "white trees" and a plethora of homing beacons to keep tabs on it. A few satelties have also been brought aboard to keep communication synced better.