Wisp Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Colonies in space are possible. Making deserts arable is not without a weather machine, or constant shipments of water. Well then, I guess I'm a weather God like you said. Let it pour! Question though, what do you benefit from arguing this point? I assume that one of your main goals right now in this game is to limit me, but I can't seem to see how this would do that. I have more to gain from it than you, but it doesn't make any sense whatsoever, which is why I'm arguing this point. Hegemony-Spain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphi Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Just a quick heads up to Germania, I'm going to be using that bone chemical to try to stop the decay of bones while on mars/in space. The next few buildings on mars have been created, and it is now looking like some kind of high tech village. Work on the other buildings is continuing normally. A small military force is currently on mars, as well, just to keep order. Also, we're probably going to need to draw up a map of mars as well. Buutt...seeing how it has changed during the terraformation, I think we can get away with making the landmass/seas up. I may try to do that myself, actually. If anyone else wants to give it a shot, just remember that the rough water:land ratio is 30:70. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Colonies in space are possible. Making deserts arable is not without a weather machine, or constant shipments of water. Well then, I guess I'm a weather God like you said. Let it pour! Question though, what do you benefit from arguing this point? I assume that one of your main goals right now in this game is to limit me, but I can't seem to see how this would do that. I have more to gain from it than you, but it doesn't make any sense whatsoever, which is why I'm arguing this point. Israel: Israel's land primarily consisted of desert until the construction of desalination plants along the country's coast. The desalination plants, which remove the salt from ocean water, have created a new source of water for farming, drinking, and washing. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arable_land The original intention of the research was more so to turn land that was at some point arable back into arable land, though. This just shows that it would be possible to turn deserts into arable land (it would just be like taking Las Vegas to a higher level, except that with the research it would be less costly and require less water). Just a quick heads up to Germania, I'm going to be using that bone chemical to try to stop the decay of bones while on mars/in space. The next few buildings on mars have been created, and it is now looking like some kind of high tech village. Work on the other buildings is continuing normally. A small military force is currently on mars, as well, just to keep order. Also, we're probably going to need to draw up a map of mars as well. Buutt...seeing how it has changed during the terraformation, I think we can get away with making the landmass/seas up. I may try to do that myself, actually. If anyone else wants to give it a shot, just remember that the rough water:land ratio is 30:70. The tech is yours, you can do whatever you want with it :P And where did all this water come onto Mars from? I'll give the map a shot though. Vienna Raszyn Warsaw Klushino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wisp Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 I thought you meant deserts as in the technical definition, which you can't really grow crops in because there's no rain. But if you're more referring to areas like the increasing edges of the Sahara, that makes sense. Hegemony-Spain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 I thought you meant deserts as in the technical definition, which you can't really grow crops in because there's no rain. But if you're more referring to areas like the increasing edges of the Sahara, that makes sense. Sorry. should've specified myself a bit more clearly :( Vienna Raszyn Warsaw Klushino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wisp Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 And I probably should have made sure about what you meant. Just a misunderstanding, doesn't matter too much. Hegemony-Spain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walka92 Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 my antimatter research has gone horribly wrong, so after some short deliberations, we have decided to head our research in a new direction: teleportation they have been working on this and have managed to teleport single particles/molecules, and my hope is to send this research even further, to aid in colonisation of space. once we complete a teleporter that can move complex organisms/objects we will put one on the ship we are sending into space and will establish a link between here and there due to the complexity of this project, russia is offering/inviting all countries who wish to have this technology to participate in our research, but under one condition, and that it is not used for war. it would also be greatly appreciated if any countries that get involved aid in funding, aswell. my space program is going well, too. the main space station is about 1/4 complete and everything is thusfar going according to plan. also, i wish to take over a couple of areas, that are currently unclaimed: [hide=][/hide] if any one has reasons as to why i should not take these areas (can be discerned because they still have the lines of territory from old counties) then speak now, my aquisition of these areas should be complete in a couple of days (years?) I'm gonna be walking down an alley in varrock, and walka is going to walk up to me in a trench coat and say "psst.. hey man, wanna buy some sara brew"walka92- retired with 99 in attack, strength, defence, health, magic, ranged, prayer and herblore and 137 combat. some day i may return to claim 138 combat, but alas, that time has not yet come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphi Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 [hide=Too much page stretch without hide tags] This, gentlemen and women, is the ARC focused laser cannon. It is to be used in the defense of Mars, should such defense ever be needed(Which likely wont be for a long time), and is capable of cutting through a ship that is in medium-high orbit. It cannot be used offensivly, unless I somehow move Mars itself about 7 miles away from the earth (And if I managed that, the ARC cannon would be the least of your worries :lol: ) I repeat, it CANNOT truly be used offensivly.[/hide] My latest project. The second one is currently being built, with plans to build another 3-4 after that, meaning a total of 6 in the forseeable future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walka92 Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 [hide=Too much page stretch without hide tags] This, gentlemen and women, is the ARC focused laser cannon. It is to be used in the defense of Mars, should such defense ever be needed(Which likely wont be for a long time), and is capable of cutting through a ship that is in medium-high orbit. It cannot be used offensivly, unless I somehow move Mars itself about 7 miles away from the earth (And if I managed that, the ARC cannon would be the least of your worries :lol: ) I repeat, it CANNOT truly be used offensivly.[/hide] My latest project. The second one is currently being built, with plans to build another 3-4 after that, meaning a total of 6 in the forseeable future. mind telling me what program you used to make that image? ive been looking for a 3d program like that for a while but i havent found one. name and possible download link? I'm gonna be walking down an alley in varrock, and walka is going to walk up to me in a trench coat and say "psst.. hey man, wanna buy some sara brew"walka92- retired with 99 in attack, strength, defence, health, magic, ranged, prayer and herblore and 137 combat. some day i may return to claim 138 combat, but alas, that time has not yet come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphi Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 [hide=Too much page stretch without hide tags] This, gentlemen and women, is the ARC focused laser cannon. It is to be used in the defense of Mars, should such defense ever be needed(Which likely wont be for a long time), and is capable of cutting through a ship that is in medium-high orbit. It cannot be used offensivly, unless I somehow move Mars itself about 7 miles away from the earth (And if I managed that, the ARC cannon would be the least of your worries :lol: ) I repeat, it CANNOT truly be used offensivly.[/hide] My latest project. The second one is currently being built, with plans to build another 3-4 after that, meaning a total of 6 in the forseeable future. mind telling me what program you used to make that image? ive been looking for a 3d program like that for a while but i havent found one. name and possible download link? Google Sketchup, its totally free, just type it in on google and the website will be at the top of the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wisp Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 How exactly does your proposed teleportation thing work? Because that is probably less cost effective than antimatter. Hegemony-Spain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 [hide=Too much page stretch without hide tags] This, gentlemen and women, is the ARC focused laser cannon. It is to be used in the defense of Mars, should such defense ever be needed(Which likely wont be for a long time), and is capable of cutting through a ship that is in medium-high orbit. It cannot be used offensivly, unless I somehow move Mars itself about 7 miles away from the earth (And if I managed that, the ARC cannon would be the least of your worries :lol: ) I repeat, it CANNOT truly be used offensivly.[/hide] My latest project. The second one is currently being built, with plans to build another 3-4 after that, meaning a total of 6 in the forseeable future. mind telling me what program you used to make that image? ive been looking for a 3d program like that for a while but i havent found one. name and possible download link? wings 3d could do that, but that's not the program he's using. I will join your telportation project, but if its not being used, why not have it researched on Haven, with the collaboration of the nations that have scientists there (would speed along the research). Oh, and those nations you want (above) Walka, are already claimed. A new player has joined and chosen Kazakhstan and is currently in diplomatic talks about acquiring Mongolia. [hide=Map of Mars] No names in place, I suppose names will be decided by whomever claims the land. Keep in mind though that that is a very scaled down version of the map, so taking over half of it in a year would be impossible - it is a planet after all.[/hide] Vienna Raszyn Warsaw Klushino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ouchy Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 @mage_man: Thanks for the offer, in the future, I'm sure we can help each other ;) My relaxation method involves a bottle of lotion, beautiful women, and partial nudity. Yes I get massages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul191600 Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Just a quick heads up to Germania, I'm going to be using that bone chemical to try to stop the decay of bones while on mars/in space. The next few buildings on mars have been created, and it is now looking like some kind of high tech village. Work on the other buildings is continuing normally. A small military force is currently on mars, as well, just to keep order. Also, we're probably going to need to draw up a map of mars as well. Buutt...seeing how it has changed during the terraformation, I think we can get away with making the landmass/seas up. I may try to do that myself, actually. If anyone else wants to give it a shot, just remember that the rough water:land ratio is 30:70. internet lagged :-# The sour dough of the epitmous pie hungers for another's sweet lips to be dulled into a state of most irreverant humblenessTUBULAR BELLS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walka92 Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 How exactly does your proposed teleportation thing work? Because that is probably less cost effective than antimatter. for the sake of the game im not going to come up with some super complex explanation for teleportation, and i have no idea if its going to be cost effective yet. im thinking that when i have a stable system down for it, it will require vast amounts of power/electricity but as of yet this is unclear. @dusty oh ok, didnt know they were taken, because they hadnt been marked on the map. just let people take which ever ones they wanted (new comers) and ill take whats left over. that ok? I'm gonna be walking down an alley in varrock, and walka is going to walk up to me in a trench coat and say "psst.. hey man, wanna buy some sara brew"walka92- retired with 99 in attack, strength, defence, health, magic, ranged, prayer and herblore and 137 combat. some day i may return to claim 138 combat, but alas, that time has not yet come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul191600 Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Just a quick heads up to Germania, I'm going to be using that bone chemical to try to stop the decay of bones while on mars/in space. The next few buildings on mars have been created, and it is now looking like some kind of high tech village. Work on the other buildings is continuing normally. A small military force is currently on mars, as well, just to keep order. Also, we're probably going to need to draw up a map of mars as well. Buutt...seeing how it has changed during the terraformation, I think we can get away with making the landmass/seas up. I may try to do that myself, actually. If anyone else wants to give it a shot, just remember that the rough water:land ratio is 30:70. I sent a security force of 600 up with the colony, for if anything got out of hand. Also, how are you doing for resources? I'm planning on shipping up more people and supplies once my shuttles are completed, anything to add that might be worth bringing? The sour dough of the epitmous pie hungers for another's sweet lips to be dulled into a state of most irreverant humblenessTUBULAR BELLS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wisp Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Just researched teleportation. It's basically impossible. Quantum teleportation can in theory transfer things at a microscopic scale, but a macroscopic scale is impossible. As is superluminal travel. And teleportation of anything complicated and expecting it to come out right is pretty much ridiculous, it violates so many laws of physics (ie: Uncertainty principle) Also, my ships go almost as fast as light, and teleportation would go pretty much the same speed as them. So it's pretty much useless. Hegemony-Spain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 How exactly does your proposed teleportation thing work? Because that is probably less cost effective than antimatter. for the sake of the game im not going to come up with some super complex explanation for teleportation, and i have no idea if its going to be cost effective yet. im thinking that when i have a stable system down for it, it will require vast amounts of power/electricity but as of yet this is unclear. @dusty oh ok, didnt know they were taken, because they hadnt been marked on the map. just let people take which ever ones they wanted (new comers) and ill take whats left over. that ok? Yeah, I think he just joined today, so the map isn't updated yet. Germania will help with your research on teleportation regardless of whether you want to take it to Haven or not. Oh and Doom, have you sent scientists to Haven or not? Just researched teleportation. It's basically impossible. Quantum teleportation can in theory transfer things at a microscopic scale, but a macroscopic scale is impossible. As is superluminal travel. And teleportation of anything complicated and expecting it to come out right is pretty much ridiculous, it violates so many laws of physics (ie: Uncertainty principle) Also, my ships go almost as fast as light, and teleportation would go pretty much the same speed as them. So it's pretty much useless. Oh the irony. Vienna Raszyn Warsaw Klushino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphi Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Thats awsome Dusty, thanks. I'll start trying to come up with area names ASAP. Paul, the colonies are basically self sufficient now, but spare food is always appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Thats awsome Dusty, thanks. I'll start trying to come up with area names ASAP. Paul, the colonies are basically self sufficient now, but spare food is always appreciated. Might help: http://www.seventhsanctum.com/index-name.php Vienna Raszyn Warsaw Klushino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wisp Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Oh and Doom, have you sent scientists to Haven or not? Just researched teleportation. It's basically impossible. Quantum teleportation can in theory transfer things at a microscopic scale, but a macroscopic scale is impossible. As is superluminal travel. And teleportation of anything complicated and expecting it to come out right is pretty much ridiculous, it violates so many laws of physics (ie: Uncertainty principle) Also, my ships go almost as fast as light, and teleportation would go pretty much the same speed as them. So it's pretty much useless. Oh the irony. Actually, not at all. By almost as fast as light, I mean 80%ish. That's very possible. Superluminal speeds, as far as we know are impossible. But lower than that, you just need the right about of energy. And I guess I'll send some scientists. Hegemony-Spain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul191600 Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Thats awsome Dusty, thanks. I'll start trying to come up with area names ASAP. Paul, the colonies are basically self sufficient now, but spare food is always appreciated. Might help: http://www.seventhsanctum.com/index-name.php Hmmm due to the whole space exploration stage we are getting into, I want to change my flag to this, just for the lulz. The sour dough of the epitmous pie hungers for another's sweet lips to be dulled into a state of most irreverant humblenessTUBULAR BELLS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Thats awsome Dusty, thanks. I'll start trying to come up with area names ASAP. Paul, the colonies are basically self sufficient now, but spare food is always appreciated. Might help: http://www.seventhsanctum.com/index-name.php Hmmm due to the whole space exploration stage we are getting into, I want to change my flag to this, just for the lulz. Wth is that And I guess I'll send some scientists :) Current nations with scientists working on projects on Haven: Bulgaria Britannia Jerusalem Germania Russia Brazil Somalia How about this - any research done on Haven will take 2 years less then if it was tackled by a country alone? No one would be forced to work on someone else's project, and each nation's scientists could theoretically be working on something different, but since there are so many different of the world's top scientists together in one place, they would invariable help with and comment on other team's research. So, 2 years sound reasonable? Since we have all of the world's super-powers taking place as well, funding for the facilities is not a problem. Somalia will be the comic relief :P Vienna Raszyn Warsaw Klushino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphi Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 I guess I have nothing to lose by sending a few scientists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul191600 Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Thats awsome Dusty, thanks. I'll start trying to come up with area names ASAP. Paul, the colonies are basically self sufficient now, but spare food is always appreciated. Might help: http://www.seventhsanctum.com/index-name.php Hmmm due to the whole space exploration stage we are getting into, I want to change my flag to this, just for the lulz. Wth is that And I guess I'll send some scientists :) Current nations with scientists working on projects on Haven: Bulgaria Britannia Jerusalem Germania Russia Brazil Somalia How about this - any research done on Haven will take 2 years less then if it was tackled by a country alone? No one would be forced to work on someone else's project, and each nation's scientists could theoretically be working on something different, but since there are so many different of the world's top scientists together in one place, they would invariable help with and comment on other team's research. So, 2 years sound reasonable? Since we have all of the world's super-powers taking place as well, funding for the facilities is not a problem. Somalia will be the comic relief :P Somalia: We have invented a new cutlass! Research now begins on a flying machine, taking piracy to the sky!!!!!! The sour dough of the epitmous pie hungers for another's sweet lips to be dulled into a state of most irreverant humblenessTUBULAR BELLS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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