DaN Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 This is getting stupid I hate my officialy country its a nation of cowards. In Australia there is a new law allowing the police to hold you for 14days at their will without charging you with anything. Theirs also a shoot to kill act coming out soon wich will allow the police to shoot suspected terrorists who run from them. (who dosent run from the police?) now there is talk of phone tapps (the police already have our sms) and even voIP calls being tapped. What ever happened to privacy I dont care about terrorism Its not apart of my life. Why are people supporting terrorists? After the london bombing I hear that many americans canceled flights to england. WHY? support terrorists by doing exactly what they want? I say to the world STOP HIDING UNDER YOUR BEDS! and can the stupid terror laws there [cabbage] and are assisting the terrorists to disrupt our way of life ~Dan64AuSince 27 Aug 2002 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoRnMaN Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 it dosnt seem like this is up for discussion? so why is it in a forum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killerz Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 I think the whole frightening about terrorist started with the U.S with Bush. I think that checking phone lines is not good. They should have like a warrant or permit with enough evidence to suspect someone as a terrorist. Terrorist kinda affect us all cause what about 9/11, i didnt see that coming. Everybody know terrorism will never stop. Quote From Albert Einstien " So long as there is man, there will be war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runesmithie Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 Its really kinda funny because you have super heightened security after some big event... When no terrorist in his right mind would strike in the first place =\ Sure a little security is good, but I remember after 9/11 MP's did a body search on me.... took soooo long just to get on the plane I just posted something! ^_^ to the terrorist...er... kirbybeam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaN Posted October 27, 2005 Author Share Posted October 27, 2005 Terrorist kinda affect us all cause what about 9/11, i didnt see that coming. Im sick of the whole 9/11 thing. "The day the world changed" No the world hasnt changed because of just ONE incident! I blame bush for kicking up so much fuss if bush gets assasinated I will set up a website proclaiming victory to his assasin. ~Dan64AuSince 27 Aug 2002 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevester77 Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 New world order!!!!! heh :oops: anyways that really sucks...your country needs to jump on the habeous corpus bandwagon. but then again everything over here isn't too great either....with the passing of the patroit act we now can have our phone lines tapped at the cops' will, warrentless searches once again at will, and the best one - a new definition of a terroritst: anyone who endanger's a human life. while it seems reasonable, think about how its ment to be read...in "lawyer speak". with this said, if i jaywalk, i am now officially a "terrorist" because im endangering my life and any other drivers on the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purepehmo Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 Terrorist kinda affect us all cause what about 9/11, i didnt see that coming. Im sick of the whole 9/11 thing. "The day the world changed" No the world hasnt changed because of just ONE incident! I blame bush for kicking up so much fuss if bush gets assasinated I will set up a website proclaiming victory to his assasin. Nice topic name you have there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weezcake Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 I'm a terrorist because I don't believe in the war = I'm not American. ==================================Retired tip.it moderator.Teaching and inspiring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
How2PK Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 What does it matter if somebody that doesn't even know you can hear your phonecalls, it's not that they are interested that you're going to the bar at 21:00 with your mates, or do you have something to hide? If it can help provide a terrorist attack, why shouldn't it be allowed. The whole "privacy" thing is so arrogant. Signature by Maurice SendakWhen the stars make you drool just like a pasta fazool, that's amore! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoRnMaN Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 I'm a terrorist because I don't believe in the war = I'm not American.ur in san fran. san fran is in america. ur in america. so either u r American or u r an imagrant. not a terrorist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kielmccaul75 Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 What does it matter if somebody that doesn't even know you can hear your phonecalls, it's not that they are interested that you're going to the bar at 21:00 with your mates, or do you have something to hide? If it can help provide a terrorist attack, why shouldn't it be allowed. The whole "privacy" thing is so arrogant. Much the same as you have decided noone has a right to privacy, I have decided that it is okay for me to come to your house and steal your stuff. :roll: I don't want people knowing exactly what I am doing/saying over my phone, even though I am doing nothing wrong. Tapping people who are suspected with good reasons phones could be understandable, but in any other situation it just shouldn't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
How2PK Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 What does it matter if somebody that doesn't even know you can hear your phonecalls, it's not that they are interested that you're going to the bar at 21:00 with your mates, or do you have something to hide? If it can help provide a terrorist attack, why shouldn't it be allowed. The whole "privacy" thing is so arrogant. Much the same as you have decided noone has a right to privacy, I have decided that it is okay for me to come to your house and steal your stuff. :roll: I don't want people knowing exactly what I am doing/saying over my phone, even though I am doing nothing wrong. Tapping people who are suspected with good reasons phones could be understandable, but in any other situation it just shouldn't happen. That's a bad comparisation and you know it, so I won't go into that. I don't know what your priorities are, your own "privacy" or having the possibility of preventing a terrorist attack where many people could die. I really don't see a problem in having my phones tapped by the government for a cause like this. And I never said no-one has the right to privacy, don't put words in my mouth. Signature by Maurice SendakWhen the stars make you drool just like a pasta fazool, that's amore! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assassin_696 Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 This is getting stupid I hate my officialy country its a nation of cowards. In Australia there is a new law allowing the police to hold you for 14days at their will without charging you with anything. Here in the UK they are looking to bringing in a law allowing suspected terrorists to be held without trial for 90 days. Does this bother me? No, since they won't just randomly hold people for 90 days if they are completely innocent. Theirs also a shoot to kill act coming out soon wich will allow the police to shoot suspected terrorists who run from them. (who dosent run from the police?) Who doesn't run from the police? Me for one. If you are completely innocent then why would you run from armed police? I'm not talking about the shooting of the innocent after the London bombings either, they were different circumstances; but whatever you have done to make the police want to stop you, you'll only make it worse by running away from them, since it begs the question, why are you running? now there is talk of phone tapps (the police already have our sms) and even voIP calls being tapped. What ever happened to privacy I dont care about terrorism Its not apart of my life. Well chances are if you live in a westernised MEDC then terrorism is a part of your life, you're just fortunate enough not to have been directly affected by it. And to be perfectly honest i'm sick to death of this whole privacy thing. Honest to God you really think they can listen to every single phone call made? Do you really think some policeman will be sat there listening to your conversation with your mates? Of course not, unless it's a specific incident where they permanently tap your phones, i imagine it'll run a similar system to the NSA, searching for keywords like, "bomb," "president" etc. If you have nothing to hide why are you so worried about it? Why are people supporting terrorists? After the london bombing I hear that many americans canceled flights to england. WHY? support terrorists by doing exactly what they want? Here i agree with you, we musn't be intimidated by fear and terrorism. However being overly cautious is slightly different to supporting terrorism, that would involve actively wanting it to happen, of course the Americans who cancelled their flights didn't. I say to the world STOP HIDING UNDER YOUR BEDS! and can the stupid terror laws there cabbage and are assisting the terrorists to disrupt our way of life The chances of these laws actually affecting you are so slim that it's untrue. So you can get shot if you run from the police, why are you running? Your phones are being secretly monitored but unless your talking about some extremely shifty stuff then why worry? So no, if these laws help protect the way of life that we value so highly then i am all for them. Sorry to seem to passionate but this is something that i have strong feelings for. "Da mihi castitatem et continentam, sed noli modo" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eng Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 Terrorist kinda affect us all cause what about 9/11, i didnt see that coming. Im sick of the whole 9/11 thing. "The day the world changed" No the world hasnt changed because of just ONE incident! I blame bush for kicking up so much fuss if bush gets assasinated I will set up a website proclaiming victory to his assasin. Im from england and i support BUSH 100%, at the end of the day iraq was a threat to the world, look what they did in 9/11 what would they do if they had neclear missile capability. Also i think phones/messages should be tapped if it saves a few 100 lives i dont mind my privacy being invaded! IF YOU GOT NOTHING TO HIDE, you wont mind niether. At the end of the day all terrorists should be dealt with in the way the act them selves. (death penalty). you ever seen the film swordfish! lets take a leaf out of that film. You say terrorism doesnt effect you so why the hell are you posting this message, obviously it effects us all, wether its oil prices, phones being tapped or our family and friends going off to war. I think you need to grow up and relise this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killaz52 Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 This is getting stupid I hate my officialy country its a nation of cowards. In Australia there is a new law allowing the police to hold you for 14days at their will without charging you with anything. Here in the UK they are looking to bringing in a law allowing suspected terrorists to be held without trial for 90 days. Does this bother me? No, since they won't just randomly hold people for 90 days if they are completely innocent. Theirs also a shoot to kill act coming out soon wich will allow the police to shoot suspected terrorists who run from them. (who dosent run from the police?) Who doesn't run from the police? Me for one. If you are completely innocent then why would you run from armed police? I'm not talking about the shooting of the innocent after the London bombings either, they were different circumstances; but whatever you have done to make the police want to stop you, you'll only make it worse by running away from them, since it begs the question, why are you running? about it? Jean Charles De Menezes has evidence for him that proves he wasn't running, and the police force in England won't admit that. Even if he did run, I wouldn't blame him. What would you do if these people, in plain clothes, were running after you with MP5's in their hands? I'd definately run! All I want, is for the Met to take the blame for taking an innocent life without any reason to. Ever since 9/11, travelling the world has become such a hassle. I'm an Arab with a British passport, and everytime I want to come back into this country they take extra long to search me, they look through my passport longer than they used to, and my dad always has to stay behind for like 5 mins while they ask him questions. All this because of Bush and Blair, making people scared. I don't blame them for searching me, but why don't they search everyone else with the same thoroughness? I probably have the same view as most other Brits or Westerners, which is that all the terrorists are cowards who kill innocent people for a fake cause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eng Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 As a black british male i understand where your coming from BUT... if they were to search me extra long at an airport i wouldn't be bothered TERRORIST's look , dark skinned or look eastern european. i hope i didnt offend anyone there because thats not my intention. Obviously peoples fitting these discriptions are going to be searched more and for longer.(im one of these people) and i dont care, its there job to protect us and our country and if thats what they have to do thats what they have to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AThousandLies Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 Terrorist kinda affect us all cause what about 9/11, i didnt see that coming. Im sick of the whole 9/11 thing. "The day the world changed" No the world hasnt changed because of just ONE incident! I blame bush for kicking up so much fuss if bush gets assasinated I will set up a website proclaiming victory to his assasin. [qupte]Im from england and i support BUSH 100%, at the end of the day iraq was a threat to the world, look what they did in 9/11 what would they do if they had neclear missile capability. Excuse me? Since when was Iraq responsible for 9/11? Oh, and by that logic, let's just go and invade every country, y'know, just in case they have nuclear weapons. Who needs evidence? IF YOU GOT NOTHING TO HIDE, you wont mind niether. Nothing to hide? So you wouldn't mind if people came into your house, tearing down your property due to allegations that you're in possession of child pornography? That's just an example -- and something ASIO does here to mere suspects. I think you'd mind. At the end of the day all terrorists should be dealt with in the way the act them selves. (death penalty). you ever seen the film swordfish! lets take a leaf out of that film. At the end of the day, there should be sufficient justification and evidence supporting claims -- not just pure speculation and [cabbage]. Shoot to kill? Well, it looks like we've already shot and killed our rights. You say terrorism doesnt effect you so why the hell are you posting this message, obviously it effects us all, wether its oil prices, phones being tapped or our family and friends going off to war. I think you need to grow up and relise this. I agree that terrorism does affect us, but I think he is posting this message because he's concerned about these new laws (if you can call them that). I mean, it's a pretty weak argument to say "if you've got nothing to hide then let them". How about I go searching your apartment or house for something completely obscure, like rock samples from Mars? I could turn your house up and down in search of them, but hey, you've got nothing to hide, so you'll have to let me in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
How2PK Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 Why are you talking about house searches and Mars rock samples while this is about terorism and tapping phonecalls? Signature by Maurice SendakWhen the stars make you drool just like a pasta fazool, that's amore! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antrune Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 Theirs also a shoot to kill act coming out soon wich will allow the police to shoot suspected terrorists who run from them. (who dosent run from the police?) Well anyone who runs from the police is guilty. So if a suspected terroist is running he/she is obviously guilty of terroism or conspiracy meaning they can be shot in the leg or something? And no lol why do you always want to get stuff from John Lewis. Its over ̣̉300 more then than what i paid. John Lewis is a great, great shop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eng Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 Nothing to hide? So you wouldn't mind if people came into your house, tearing down your property due to allegations that you're in possession of child pornography? That's just an example -- and something ASIO does here to mere suspects. I think you'd mind. No i wouldn't mind because thats sick and people should be locked up for it, if it mean't hassling inccocent people to catch the criminals then so be it. would you rather the police searched 10 inocents and caught 3 pedo's, or search 0 inocents and caught 1 pedo. At the end of the day, there should be sufficient justification and evidence supporting claims -- not just pure speculation and cabbage. Shoot to kill? Well, it looks like we've already shot and killed our rights. You say we shot away our rights to shoot to kill thats crap, stop for a second, there had already been 2-3 other bombs detonated in london before this guy ran away from armed police. what if he had a button in his hand and at a press of that button another bomb was detonated, (just imagine that happened and the police saw him but shot him in the leg could he still press that button dam rite he could, causing alot more people to die. Our police done the right thing by me. you remember that greek plane that lost cabin pressure, all the passangers passed out and it flew into a mountain. We'll before it hit the mountain greek officals scambled 2 armed jet planes to shoot it out the sky just incase it was another 9/11, i think the point im trying to put across (as harsh as it sounds) but 100 life weighs more than 1, and 1000 lifes weighs more than 200. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionheart_0 Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 :? :cry: There will always be terrorism, even on a small scale level.... It can never be compleatly stoped... Sig by IkuraiYour Guide to Posting! Behave or I will send my Moose mounted Beaver launchers at you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
How2PK Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 :? :cry: There will always be terrorism, even on a small scale level.... It can never be compleatly stoped... So that would mean we should stop trying to prevent it or something and let it be? What exactly is your point with this reply? Signature by Maurice SendakWhen the stars make you drool just like a pasta fazool, that's amore! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionheart_0 Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 :? :cry: There will always be terrorism, even on a small scale level.... It can never be compleatly stoped... So that would mean we should stop trying to prevent it or something and let it be? What exactly is your point with this reply?Guess i should of elaberated. No i think what SOME countrys are doing to help prevent terrorism should continu. But from the sounds of it, Austrailia (srry cant spell) is going too far. To be able to kill anyone suspected of being a terrorist? what if they kill innocent people (like in london). That is not fair at all! I dotn think ANY country has the right to disrupt the rights of the general public and the innocent just because they think someone is a terrorist. Hey, Canada has tightend defences, and nothing has happend, then again we havent had any terrorist attacks yet.... *knocks on wood* Sig by IkuraiYour Guide to Posting! Behave or I will send my Moose mounted Beaver launchers at you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assassin_696 Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 This is getting stupid I hate my officialy country its a nation of cowards. In Australia there is a new law allowing the police to hold you for 14days at their will without charging you with anything. Here in the UK they are looking to bringing in a law allowing suspected terrorists to be held without trial for 90 days. Does this bother me? No, since they won't just randomly hold people for 90 days if they are completely innocent. Theirs also a shoot to kill act coming out soon wich will allow the police to shoot suspected terrorists who run from them. (who dosent run from the police?) Who doesn't run from the police? Me for one. If you are completely innocent then why would you run from armed police? I'm not talking about the shooting of the innocent after the London bombings either, they were different circumstances; but whatever you have done to make the police want to stop you, you'll only make it worse by running away from them, since it begs the question, why are you running? about it? Jean Charles De Menezes has evidence for him that proves he wasn't running, and the police force in England won't admit that. Even if he did run, I wouldn't blame him. What would you do if these people, in plain clothes, were running after you with MP5's in their hands? I'd definately run! All I want, is for the Met to take the blame for taking an innocent life without any reason to. Yup, i agree with you, in this case the police force were in the wrong for shooting him, based on the evidence that we have been presented with. You say you'd run from a group of men with MP5s do you? Well firstly i'd be suspicious since MP5s are the weapon of choice for special forces and secondly, running from guys with automatics? No thanks, you're asking for trouble. "Da mihi castitatem et continentam, sed noli modo" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rizla Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 Do you people really think government agents are going to be sat round listening to you chatting to your mates about runescape? It's not like they're going to pick a random phone number out of a hat and just hope they find out something. The people they'll be using taps on are suspected terrorists, known criminals, people who might actually be worth listening to in the first place. I think we can all rest safely without having to worry about our plans being snooped on by some federal agency :roll: Kirk and Lars I could handle. At the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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