STOP SUPPORTING TERRORISTS!!!!!!

[AThousandLies]

 

This is getting stupid I hate my officialy country its a nation of cowards

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

YOU ARE UNAUSTRALIAN!!!

 

 

 

How dare you call Australia a nation of cowards!!! Did you think about the men who are in the army for Australia? Do you dare call them cowards? The men that protect out shores? You are an idiot!!!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Calm down. Although his comment was uncalled for, it should be taken with a grain of salt.

[goku_nazz]

 

This is getting stupid I hate my officialy country its a nation of cowards

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

YOU ARE UNAUSTRALIAN!!!

 

 

 

How dare you call Australia a nation of cowards!!! Did you think about the men who are in the army for Australia? Do you dare call them cowards? The men that protect out shores? You are an idiot!!!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

No, he's not an idiot.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You're the idiot here.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My Grandfather served from 1938 to 1958 with the Australian Navy. His ship HMAS Yarra was sunk in WWII by the Japanese and he had to survive on a raft for 5 days with no food or water.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now explain this Mr. Expert-Patriotic-Australian. My grandfather would be rolling in his grave if he knew what Howard was doing. In other words, my grandfather would have shared the same views. What Howard is doing is cowardly. The last thing the old diggers would want is for Australia to turn into the USA (a police state run by unclassified fascists). He saw our land as a land of opportunity and freedom, not a land where police can run wild and shoot who they 'think' is a terrorist, or hold someone for no reason without a warrant.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My grandfather was a proud aussie, he protected our shores, and I'll be damned if he was a coward.

[bas]

you know, here at my country, Holland/the Netherlands, it is like one big terrorist supporting complot. there was this guy, samir A. or wathever, he had plans of bombing several state buildings, he worked it out on paper and all, he was free after some weeks i believe, so now they "caught" him again, completely with his testamony where he said what he'll do and stuff, but hey, they just let him go.

 

 

 

if you would just hang those peopple, it'll be alot safer.

 

 

 

PS dont tell anyone, i might be killed here :oops: :roll:

[killaz52]

The word your looking for is testamony. And I don't think they should be hung, it's just like the shoot to kill debate going on here. You might kill an innocent.

[bas]

The word your looking for is testamony. And I don't think they should be hung, it's just like the shoot to kill debate going on here. You might kill an innocent.

 

 

 

thanks, i edited my post.

 

 

 

and generally i am a supporter of the death penalty, of course evrything must be sorted out perfectly before something like that happens. but it seems pretty clear to me when someone like samir A. is arrested for a first time, well, ok, the police could be wrong( pretty diffuculd to be wrong when finding blue prints and stuff of several important buildings, including a nuclear reactor) but when he gets realesed, he hits a guy of the newspaper in his face with his fist btw, and he is arrested AGAIN, and he will be released, i'm pretty sure that he will, i know my country quite well now. you just can't keep those peopple releasing with the idea of "oh i bet he won't do anything wrong, he's a good boy, he always was" because someday somebody like samir A. or he, WILL do something wrong. it is just a matter of time. and it doesnt matter if you are put into jail here, you get a tv, computer with internet(when i heard this, i was like OMFG :S), or you should put those peopple in a room with 4 walls and a little hole in the ground to pee in, but that won't ever happen here...

[Lord_Muijs]

What does it matter if somebody that doesn't even know you can hear your phonecalls, it's not that they are interested that you're going to the bar at 21:00 with your mates, or do you have something to hide? If it can help provide a terrorist attack, why shouldn't it be allowed. The whole "privacy" thing is so arrogant.

 

 

 

yup, if i ask my girlfriend out i would love some 64 year old fat policeman to listen in. after all, he really needs to know that, doesnt he??

[runesmithie]

 

What does it matter if somebody that doesn't even know you can hear your phonecalls, it's not that they are interested that you're going to the bar at 21:00 with your mates, or do you have something to hide? If it can help provide a terrorist attack, why shouldn't it be allowed. The whole "privacy" thing is so arrogant.

 

 

 

yup, if i ask my girlfriend out i would love some 64 year old fat policeman to listen in. after all, he really needs to know that, doesnt he??

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

don't worry, they'll probably be "monitoring" the 1-800 Live Links numbers ;)

[DaN]

 

What many people here hail to realise is the the goal of terrorism is to disrupt our lives and we freely assist them by doing so.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But this is rare, after the London underground bombing on July 7th, the next day everyone carried on as normal.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And even if we did live in fear because of terrorism, this isn't the same as actually "supporting" terrorists.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

England did carry on as normal, but america didnt I saw on the news Swat teams were deployed all over the place.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Even here in Australia in the most remote city in the world we had techtical response teams deployed at our train station.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

then in england an innocent man was shot by the police.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Bonus points for the terrorists I guess...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

THose of you who say "youve got nothing to hide..." thats stupid I DO have things to hide, Dosent anyone with some sort of life have things they might hide?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you have nothing to hid feel free to email your msn chat logs to

 

 

 

[email protected] Hey youve got nothing to hide so prove it.

[E_D_G_E_1039]

 

 

 

 

Terrorist kinda affect us all cause what about 9/11, i didnt see that coming.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Im sick of the whole 9/11 thing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

"The day the world changed"

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

No the world hasnt changed because of just ONE incident!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I blame bush for kicking up so much fuss if bush gets assasinated I will set up a website proclaiming victory to his assasin.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I know I shouldn't laugh at that, but I just can't resist :lol:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I also agree with you. I think that our fear of terrorism is what drives the terrorists to go even further.

[assassin_696]

 

 

What many people here hail to realise is the the goal of terrorism is to disrupt our lives and we freely assist them by doing so.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But this is rare, after the London underground bombing on July 7th, the next day everyone carried on as normal.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And even if we did live in fear because of terrorism, this isn't the same as actually "supporting" terrorists.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

England did carry on as normal, but america didnt I saw on the news Swat teams were deployed all over the place.

 

 

 

Even here in Australia in the most remote city in the world we had techtical response teams deployed at our train station.

 

 

 

then in england an innocent man was shot by the police.

 

 

 

Bonus points for the terrorists I guess...

 

 

 

THose of you who say "youve got nothing to hide..." thats stupid I DO have things to hide, Dosent anyone with some sort of life have things they might hide?

 

 

 

If you have nothing to hid feel free to email your msn chat logs to

 

 

 

[email protected] Hey youve got nothing to hide so prove it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well, deploying police to vulnerable targets isn't such a bad idea is it really? I mean, prevention is the best cure, so why not have a saftey barrier? And having "something to hide" isn't the same as the something to hide that they could throw you in jail for. We all have secrets, hopefully you won't share yours over the phone anyway.

[How2PK]

 

What does it matter if somebody that doesn't even know you can hear your phonecalls, it's not that they are interested that you're going to the bar at 21:00 with your mates, or do you have something to hide? If it can help provide a terrorist attack, why shouldn't it be allowed. The whole "privacy" thing is so arrogant.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So will you give me access to your msn logs since it dosent matter if someone else sees them?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You are missing the point, and comming back to me with, yet again, a wrong interpertation of my reply.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I do care if everybody could read trough my msn log files or tap my phone calls. But this is done specifically for anti-terrorism sakes, and done specifically by people who are trained and chosen to do those things and nothing else.

[MyPurpleCrayon]

 

 

What does it matter if somebody that doesn't even know you can hear your phonecalls, it's not that they are interested that you're going to the bar at 21:00 with your mates, or do you have something to hide? If it can help provide a terrorist attack, why shouldn't it be allowed. The whole "privacy" thing is so arrogant.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So will you give me access to your msn logs since it dosent matter if someone else sees them?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You are missing the point, and comming back to me with, yet again, a wrong interpertation of my reply.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I do care if everybody could read trough my msn log files or tap my phone calls. But this is done specifically for anti-terrorism sakes, and done specifically by people who are trained and chosen to do those things and nothing else.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

He is not going to understand what you are saying How2Pk....He's not smart.

[KnightLite]

 

 

 

 

 

Terrorist kinda affect us all cause what about 9/11, i didnt see that coming.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Im sick of the whole 9/11 thing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

"The day the world changed"

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

No the world hasnt changed because of just ONE incident!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I blame bush for kicking up so much fuss if bush gets assasinated I will set up a website proclaiming victory to his assasin.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I know I shouldn't laugh at that, but I just can't resist :lol:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I also agree with you. I think that our fear of terrorism is what drives the terrorists to go even further.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

you kinda contradicted yourself there

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Bush does not fear terrorism

[Mercifull]

Bush does not fear terrorism

 

 

 

So why are America forcing people to have biometrics taken of people entering the country. Photos and fingerprints etc? A real suicide bomber isnt going to care if you take his picture and prints, hes not gonna be around for you to prosecute him afterwards

[killaz52]

Well said. My opinion of the tactics used by Bush is that they're just used to scare people, so that they continue to support his military "conquests". I also watched this program on BBC1 a while ago on modern political scare tactics, and they showed quite alot of evidence for what he does being useless.

[Death_By_Pod]

 

Bush does not fear terrorism

 

 

 

So why are America forcing people to have biometrics taken of people entering the country. Photos and fingerprints etc? A real suicide bomber isnt going to care if you take his picture and prints, hes not gonna be around for you to prosecute him afterwards

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It is not fear, it is precaution. Everywhere you go and see people take precautions, many times to the point where anything bad happening is statistically zero (or very small). You might not be scared of robbers breaking or entering but you still have a lock on your front door, the government might not be scared of people paying their taxes but they still have a tax collection agency and as a last example (for Americans) you might not be scared of people taking your rights away but you still own a gun, the world wouldn't exist with precautions.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now you might not think its right or that itÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s racist (I doubt they specify any race in legislation, so the people singling out Arab people over white suspects would be the ones to call racist) but it happens all the time. There have probably been many other pieces of legislation that have taken away your rights (See ECHELON) without you even knowing, this one has just got sensationalised by the media because it concern terrorists.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Or you could be from the other point of view that when you do an action you do it out of fear and in most cases itÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s true. However that also means we are afraid of almost anything and I don't think thatÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s the definition Bush uses.

[redserpent4]

Fundamentaly though i believe that Bush's tactics and Blair's are wrong and that they will never work. Where was Religious fanaticism 5 years ago? did it exist? yes, but it wasn't like it is now. Nowadays the situation is that the governments of Britain and America are considering deporting religious extremists because of the threat they now present. However this threat was created largely by the previous actions and attitudes of America and Britain. The events of 9/11 and 7/7 happened because of religious extremism on the part of the terrorists and lies and deceit on the part of the politicians, the people who suffered most had nothing to do with why the events happened.

 

 

 

You may not agree with me but these are my beliefs, i do not expect many to agree with them.

 

 

 

The situation in the middle east is a problem which stemmed from Western Imperialism, on the part of the British, the land around Israel and Palestine which is disputed by both nations was promised to both groups of people at different times in history by the British. Consequently both nations believe they own the land. Perhaps it is time the people of America and Britain, particularly America though I regret to say it (I have no doubt that the government of Britain would follow), to stop and think, what do we really want from the world, do we want a never ending war? By this I mean the war on terror, which I would of course fully support if i truly thought there would be any chance of ultimate victory. Look at Bin Laden, how long have we been hunting for him, will we ever find him? ultimately he will die just like everyone else but by then there will no doubt be some new threat and a new public enemy number one for Bush or Bush jnr or Bush jnr jnr to deal with.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I hope i didn't offend anyone, if i didI'm sorry but I wanted to say what i was thinking

[DaN]

hopefully you won't share yours over the phone anyway.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

SO we lose our right/ability to use a phone for private convosation?!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The only reason to use a phone over other methords is for privacy.

[WutangFlu]

screw the government... screw the terrorists...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

lets all go live on the moon and eat rainbow marshmellows...

[Pete_the_Viscous]

I'll drink to that -- especially if I get to do it in low gravity. That'd be great.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As for terrorism: I don't see that any way I behave can change they way those people think. Short of my behavious paying a short, sharp visit to their head and bringing their thinking to an abrupt halt, of course. As this is not going to happen, however...

[WutangFlu]

we're all gunna go extinct sooner or later/someway, some how.. might as well bring on the future faster. :)

[Sypher05]

k we'll see how your attitude changes when somene u know dies from a terrorist attack.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

THEN TALK.

[WutangFlu]

u put me to the test, im highly apethetic.

[mbistro]

Who would attack Australia, the population isn't even 25 million?

[____]

Who would attack Australia, the population isn't even 25 million?

Terrorists. They don't care about the population so long as there are people enough to make a big deal out of it.