TWR PKRI's

[Amateurnoob]

Today I was told by a TWR Mod that PVP UNCAPPED PKRI's were not allowed on TWR... however PVP wars are allowed on TWR... this confused me a bit, as in the rules it does not state anything against having a PVP UNCAPPED PKRI, after that I was told it was an "unwritten rule."

 

I was just curious to what everyone else feels about this should we be restricted to how we can declare in PVP? In clan wars there are no restrictions for rules besides armor... Shouldn't the same go for PVP?

 

Im interested to know what you think... remember this rule for TWR

"Any other specifc rules (full out, matched ops, run-in option, different arenas, time limit, attack type, boundaries, stragglers, warring location, et cetera) must be agreed upon by both clans."

 

1. Do you believe that it is fair to restrict rules for PVP?

 

 

2. How do you think having more PVP wars on TWR will effect the community?

 

 

3. Do you believe that if clans on TWR participated in PVP wars that it will progress the clan to venture out beyond TWR and better themselves even more so they can compete in the overall clan world?

[MrGwas]

Why are uncapped Pkri's not allowed on TWR? It's how most people war nowadays and in my opinion is an easy way of knowing who wins. For example, in a capped pkri one clan could get ripped but end with more people thus giving them the win. In an uncapped PKRI the clan will have to end if they're getting destroyed, unless they outlast but I don't think members on TWR will outlast just yet.

[Petee]

PvP uncapped are fun especially if it's DV cause i get all the kills and free rune.

[Lukeeeeee]

1. Do you believe that it is fair to restrict rules for PVP?

no because then it doesnt show the true quality of the clan and whether they can end the other clan warring. sure if you clear them in a capped war its great but some need to be the full distance

 

2. How do you think having more PVP wars on TWR will effect the community?

it will expand the community as other pvp based clans will be attracted by this and join the twr making it more competetive

 

3. Do you believe that if clans on TWR participated in PVP wars that it will progress the clan to venture out beyond TWR and better themselves even more so they can compete in the overall clan world?

i do indeed

[True_Ownage]

Lol, that's just stupid. That's like saying, oh no, Corrupt is now NOT allowed in TWR wars, because usually with Corrupt wars, the richer, better clan wins, it's similar to Uncapped PKRI's tbh. Plus lots of clans tend to war this way, and it'd benefit the clans IF they had the option to do this and if they wanted too. So no I don't think it's fair to restrict Uncappeds when Corrupt is allowed as long as both clans agree on it, and it'll make the community probably better if 2 clans who had beef with each other did like a Uncapped PKRI or even CWRI if they're scared to lose rune as it'd just settle EVERYTHING.

[mrmyk]

If both clans agree, then I see no reason for why it should be disallowed.

[infinitone]

If both clans agree, then I see no reason for why it should be disallowed.

 

^end of discussion.

[obfuscator]

1. Do you believe that it is fair to restrict rules for PVP?

Absolutely. Pvp can be a huge mess - and it saves time of the TWR staff when there are less possible things that can go wrong.

 

2. How do you think having more PVP wars on TWR will effect the community?

It would make it more like RSC's - in short bad.

 

3. Do you believe that if clans on TWR participated in PVP wars that it will progress the clan to venture out beyond TWR and better themselves even more so they can compete in the overall clan world?

It might - but really its up to individual clans to decide when they are ready.

 

 

I find this topic odd for a few reasons. Firstly - there has been absolutely no legitimate interest in an uncapped pvp pkri in the history of the TWR. If there was serious, legitimate interest the staff would definitely be prepared to entertain the idea.

 

Even then, there are too many things that can go wrong. There's already enough complaining about minor broken rules in the TWR - in a pvp pkri we have claims of crashing, welfaring, outlast, etc etc. Something that to be frank I don't think any of the volunteers who maintain the TWR should have to deal with.

 

 

For the record: Uncapped pkris' are and always have been allowed as long as they occur in CWA.

[True_Ownage]

So Y Guy, if 2 clans agreed to have an Uncapped PKRI (rare event in these rankings), you'd just say they can't have one?

[obfuscator]

So Y Guy, if 2 clans agreed to have an Uncapped PKRI (rare event in these rankings), you'd just say they can't have one?

If they were actually serious about it, we'd consider allowing it.

[Amateurnoob]

1. Do you believe that it is fair to restrict rules for PVP?

Absolutely. Pvp can be a huge mess - and it saves time of the TWR staff when there are less possible things that can go wrong.

 

Even then, there are too many things that can go wrong. There's already enough complaining about minor broken rules in the TWR - in a pvp pkri we have claims of crashing, welfaring, outlast, etc etc. Something that to be frank I don't think any of the volunteers who maintain the TWR should have to deal with.

/quote]

 

Thank you for your opinion, however TWR has a lot of rules that fix some of these issues.

 

@Welfare: There may be no cap on armor or numbers with the exception of mini wars (definition of mini war in Structure section below).

 

@PVP RUN INS MOD ISSUES: "Wars must take place in the Clan Wars Arena or in a PvP world. If an unsolvable dispute arises in the aftermath, both clans must rematch in the Clan Wars Arena or accept a nulled war.

[Thehitman324]

I think these rules are only for official clan leaders to talk about not the "MODS", cuz like the above said if both agree with uncapped why not do it? Anywhere in the rules does it say you only have to do uncapped in cwa? Or is that a new rule made secretly, that no one should know about. No one cares about rsc, this is tip.it both cwa/pvp based, not everything should be in clan wars. If you can do any rules in cwa, why not pvp? Welfares,crashers that's something you need to deal with, it happens, you just need to learn how to deal with it.

[obfuscator]

As I've said already, come to a point where you're seriously consider an uncapped pvp war and I'll be happy to discuss it further.

[Danny_TeamDan]

1. Do you believe that it is fair to restrict rules for PVP?

It's their system. All is fair for them. Do I aggree with it? Nah but, I do see why they do.

 

2. How do you think having more PVP wars on TWR will effect the community?

Everyone will become broke eventually resulting in adamant wars or back to cwa. Plus maybe a little more lively with some RSC type trolls? Not sure.

 

3. Do you believe that if clans on TWR participated in PVP wars that it will progress the clan to venture out beyond TWR and better themselves even more so they can compete in the overall clan world?

Only if they have the right base. It's not too easy to go from cwa -> pvp. Especially since most clans are comfortable talking [cabbage] because you don't have to worry about crashers. I'm going to use downfall as an example [ sorry >.> ] You guys had some beef with ph prior to going to some pvp wars and I believe they crashed you couple times? Also had problems with ni at every war. NI will target new clans/smaller ones [ Free rune in their eyes ] So if you don't have the best foundation on your clan it could easily crumble plus you have to realize how many people you could potentially loose once you become more pvp based.

[Neltak]

I've always thought that any rules are fair game as long as both clans agree to them. And as most of the clan world compete in primarily pvp wars, having several clans from TWR starting to pvp against each other opens the door for these clans to find more clans to war and therefore more challenges (off of TWR though).

 

As far as "Uncapped pkris' are and always have been allowed as long as they occur in CWA." (Yguy's quote, cbf to make quote tags)...no offence but thats one of the stupidest things I've ever heard as the war will most definitely come down to one clan simply outlasting the other as there's no reason to stop returning, therefore negating any actual warring prowess.

[Danny_TeamDan]

As I've said already, come to a point where you're seriously consider an uncapped pvp war and I'll be happy to discuss it further.

 

I do aggree with this lol, name two clans that are willing to pkri uncapp ea other for twr points?

[Metallic10]

As I've said already, come to a point where you're seriously consider an uncapped pvp war and I'll be happy to discuss it further.

 

I do aggree with this lol, name two clans that are willing to pkri uncapp ea other for twr points?

 

<<<<<<< yo

[obfuscator]

As I've said already, come to a point where you're seriously consider an uncapped pvp war and I'll be happy to discuss it further.

 

I do aggree with this lol, name two clans that are willing to pkri uncapp ea other for twr points?

 

<<<<<<< yo

Only because you'll obviously win. Finding another is the hard part. ;)

[Uffan5]

1. Do you believe that it is fair to restrict rules for PVP?

Yes, there would be way too much contreversy to solve concering uncapped pkri's, also this is their system, if you want uncapped pkri's they don't have to be for TWR points, just organized one outside of TWR.

 

2. How do you think having more PVP wars on TWR will effect the community?

More contreversy of course, but i think it will spice it up a lot, rather than the boring clan wars fights over and over again. Even if it's a mix of both, it would be much better.

 

3. Do you believe that if clans on TWR participated in PVP wars that it will progress the clan to venture out beyond TWR and better themselves even more so they can compete in the overall clan world?

Yes, currently there are very few developed clans on TWR to participate in PvP wars, so they would be forced to in order to get better.

[lordhotshot]

I agree with them for the most part. Have you seen some of those topics? Some are over a clan war arena full out and they go on for 7-10 pages before a mod closes it. Just imagine a uncapped or capped pkri.

[Metallic10]

As I've said already, come to a point where you're seriously consider an uncapped pvp war and I'll be happy to discuss it further.

 

I do aggree with this lol, name two clans that are willing to pkri uncapp ea other for twr points?

 

<<<<<<< yo

Only because you'll obviously win. Finding another is the hard part. ;)

 

well i been trying to get more clans here from rsc

 

i think The Rising might join so pkri right there :thumbsup:

[obfuscator]

Well, if they do, and CR and TR legitimately want to make an uncapped pkri fight for TWR, we'll do our best to make that possible.

[zq50]

So there can only be a pkri with a time cap? wow...

[Metallic10]

we might lose though =(

[Beckingham]

I'd agree with Y guy that the rule is pretty much irrelevant right now, and it seems like the mods would be pretty open to uncapped pkri's if there were two clans that actually wanted it, so I don't see much problem with this "unwritten rule". If I were a mod I certainly wouldn't want to deal with the results of contested uncapped Pkri.