Dragonfire shield

[Anon523]

Why do people use dfire shield for slayer tasks such as hellhounds, greater demons, abby demons etc while rune defender would be a better choice? Am I missing something here?

[Blaire]

I believe the DragonFire shield has a particularly strong special attack?

 

Might aid them in the final blow I suppose.

 

Btw: You spelled 'Australia' wrong in your Location box xD

[Norriie]

A lot of them are either under the impression that an extra +2 strength is better than the great attack bonuses of the defender, or they just think it looks cool.

That's the only reason I can think of >.<

[BrutalxBrandon]

It gives a great deal of defense, if you want to hit hard then yes a defender would be the right choice but if you'd rather not get hit then the dfs is a great option. Hellhounds and Greaters tend to hit frequently if you don't have a really high defense.

[BrutalxBrandon]

A lot of them are either under the impression that an extra +2 strength is better than the great attack bonuses of the defender, or they just think it looks cool.

That's the only reason I can think of >.<

The DFS gives a +7 strength.

Nvm I just got what you meant.

Edited December 16, 2009 by BrutalxBrandon

[Norriie]

A lot of them are either under the impression that an extra +2 strength is better than the great attack bonuses of the defender, or they just think it looks cool.

That's the only reason I can think of >.<

The DFS gives a +7 strength.

Yes.. and the defender gives +5. Thus, a +2 difference between them.

[sumondskull6]

Why do people use dfire shield for slayer tasks such as hellhounds, greater demons, abby demons etc while rune defender would be a better choice? Am I missing something here?

Some people prefer the +2 strength bonus > the +19 (I think?) slash bonus.

[stonewall337]

People think it makes them look cool. Honestly, it makes you look stupid at higher levels, since the slash bonus more than makes up for the +2 str.

[bedman]

It gives a great deal of defense, if you want to hit hard then yes a defender would be the right choice but if you'd rather not get hit then the dfs is a great option. Hellhounds and Greaters tend to hit frequently if you don't have a really high defense.

I can survive on both of them just with a bunyip. For greaters, I think even 10 tuna would do for the whole task. Often I fight them for like 10+ mintues before I summon my bunyip. So no, you don't need the defence.

 

So yeah, like people have said, they overrate strenght + they think it's cool to carry a 30m shield in stead of a "free" rune defender. One last reason is the reason above, they overestimate their foe and bring all the defense they got, allthough this isn't really true, because most dfs people tend to wear bandos, which has worse defense than barrows, so yeah, I guess it's the overrating of strength.

[aglips]

People think it makes them look cool. Honestly, it makes you look stupid at higher levels, since the slash bonus more than makes up for the +2 str.

 

Thanks for calling me stupid.

I use my DFS for better defense and it looks cool with bandos armor. At my level, I can do enough damage without a defender. I play the game for the fun of it and time isn't an issue. I don't care if it takes me 10 more minutes to finish a task.

[stonewall337]

People think it makes them look cool. Honestly, it makes you look stupid at higher levels, since the slash bonus more than makes up for the +2 str.

 

Thanks for calling me stupid.

I use my DFS for better defense and it looks cool with bandos armor. At my level, I can do enough damage without a defender. I play the game for the fun of it and time isn't an issue. I don't care if it takes me 10 more minutes to finish a task.

 

Still makes you look dumb.

 

Hey, thats ok. This is my personal opinion. I mean, I sold bandos armor for awhile since I was flipping it, and people laughed at my barrows. I laughed at their 70 prayer. Now why you think spending MORE time just so you can show your shield is fun is up to you. Efficacy is a defender, showoff is DFS. At least in most cases.

[Robert_R]

IMO dfs is very unneeded and unnecessary for slayer tasks, the only way I'd buy one would be after I finish leveling every skill that helps me in combat that requires money to level(prayer, herblore, summoning). Otherwise I don't see the point in buying a highly overpriced shield basically for the looks and the +2 extra strength bonus which is very insignificant compared to the higher accuracy a rune defender gives you. This is similar to the strength ammy vs. glory/fury thing, strength ammy has higher strength bonus than both but does that make it better? No. Then people will say the defense bonuses of the shield are needed. For slayer I have yet to see a task that I actually needed more defence than a rune defender with good armour has.

[stonewall337]

According to the person above me few posts back, they didn't care if a task took 10 minutes longer. Lets just say from where you start using DFS you need 300 tasks to 99 slayer. Hmm, that is 3,000 minutes, or 50 Hours. That is a lot of time.

[aspeeder]

According to the person above me few posts back, they didn't care if a task took 10 minutes longer. Lets just say from where you start using DFS you need 300 tasks to 99 slayer. Hmm, that is 3,000 minutes, or 50 Hours. That is a lot of time.

FYI that person has 99 slayer :roll: .

Eh, I like it just for the fact that it makes my bandos look complete, but one thing that it is definitely useful for it holding its value during the rapid inflation. Because it is basically a novelty item it is usually bought at max by characters with a lot of cash so it keeps up with the inflation and keeps your total value more secure, something a rune def cannot do. It's also a decent range tanking shield but the BSS is a good replacement. If you want it why not get it, as Zaaps said in his new guide on Mining the most efficient way is not always the best way to your goal especially if it makes you miserable.

[Kersei]

People tend to buy the shield for looks and the fact that like 75% of the people in this game are focused on strength bonus for everything. I have no idea why anyone would buy one for slayer.

 

IMO dfs is very unneeded and unnecessary for slayer tasks, the only way I'd buy one would be after I finish leveling every skill that helps me in combat that requires money to level(prayer, herblore, summoning). Otherwise I don't see the point in buying a highly overpriced shield basically for the looks and the +2 extra strength bonus which is very insignificant compared to the higher accuracy a rune defender gives you. This is similar to the strength ammy vs. glory/fury thing, strength ammy has higher strength bonus than both but does that make it better? No. Then people will say the defense bonuses of the shield are needed. For slayer I have yet to see a task that I actually needed more defence than a rune defender with good armour has.

 

That's just my opinion on the shield, and the only reason I have that opinion is the ridiculous cost for it makes people buy it just so they look rich/cool. I guess I just think practically instead of how I look.

 

The defense is useful for bossing.

[krimi]

I'm sorry, I do not see the fashion appeal of bandos + dragonfireshield.

[Sinkhan]

I'm sorry, I do not see the fashion appeal of bandos + dragonfireshield.

 

I also don't see the fashion appeal in some of the party hats. The another key fact is that it's also expensive and a status item. People can best show off their wealth with expensive gear which may or not actually look good/function well.

[Obtaurian]

I completely agree with Stonewall. If you're a slayer and you have 85 Herblore, the ONLY reason to own a DFS is for wyvern tasks, which just isn't worth the 30m+ price tag. 30m can buy a lot of dragon bones, summoning seconds, and herblore supplies, and it's much better to put it to use there. For slayers, spending money on Bandos and a DFS before prayer or herblore is totally idiotic and counterproductive.

[Jacks0n]

DFS = good attacking stuff

defender = very good attacking stuff

 

Good attacking and good defence >>>>>>> very good attacking and no defence.

[Kersei]

I completely agree with Stonewall. If you're a slayer and you have 85 Herblore, the ONLY reason to own a DFS is for wyvern tasks, which just isn't worth the 30m+ price tag. 30m can buy a lot of dragon bones, summoning seconds, and herblore supplies, and it's much better to put it to use there. For slayers, spending money on Bandos and a DFS before prayer or herblore is totally idiotic and counterproductive.

 

Herb is not useful until very high levels, so buying resellable armors until the point where one can actually get to those herb levels is reasonable. Your point is true about prayer though, and DFS is indeed overrated.

[Obtaurian]

I completely agree with Stonewall. If you're a slayer and you have 85 Herblore, the ONLY reason to own a DFS is for wyvern tasks, which just isn't worth the 30m+ price tag. 30m can buy a lot of dragon bones, summoning seconds, and herblore supplies, and it's much better to put it to use there. For slayers, spending money on Bandos and a DFS before prayer or herblore is totally idiotic and counterproductive.

 

Herb is not useful until very high levels, so buying resellable armors until the point where one can actually get to those herb levels is reasonable. Your point is true about prayer though, and DFS is indeed overrated.

 

85 is not a very high level, and anyone who has money to buy a DFS, even temporarily, can afford 85 Herblore (or 82 using ales.)

[Cptbaker08]

DFS = good attacking stuff

defender = very good attacking stuff

 

Good attacking and good defence >>>>>>> very good attacking and no defence.

The defense you get from the DFS in addition to the defense you get from armor is completely overkill on most places you can use it. Especially if you use it for slayer, most tasks i have tanked in just Barrows and a whip+rune def.

 

Also faster kills from the Rune Defender means less time getting attacked and less damage taken. Thus meaning less food that is needed and more time spent doing other things.

 

But they have their own uses and despite what people say, players will still value how you look over being efficient. Its the reason Dragon Legs cost more the Dragon Skirt, yet they offer almost the exact same stats (minus the weight and they are equal).

[Kersei]

I completely agree with Stonewall. If you're a slayer and you have 85 Herblore, the ONLY reason to own a DFS is for wyvern tasks, which just isn't worth the 30m+ price tag. 30m can buy a lot of dragon bones, summoning seconds, and herblore supplies, and it's much better to put it to use there. For slayers, spending money on Bandos and a DFS before prayer or herblore is totally idiotic and counterproductive.

 

Herb is not useful until very high levels, so buying resellable armors until the point where one can actually get to those herb levels is reasonable. Your point is true about prayer though, and DFS is indeed overrated.

 

85 is not a very high level, and anyone who has money to buy a DFS, even temporarily, can afford 85 Herblore (or 82 using ales.)

 

Wait, 85 for super antifire? Are those even useful? o_o

 

I thought herb was pretty useless until.. 91 I guess, for extreme magic.

[Cptbaker08]

I completely agree with Stonewall. If you're a slayer and you have 85 Herblore, the ONLY reason to own a DFS is for wyvern tasks, which just isn't worth the 30m+ price tag. 30m can buy a lot of dragon bones, summoning seconds, and herblore supplies, and it's much better to put it to use there. For slayers, spending money on Bandos and a DFS before prayer or herblore is totally idiotic and counterproductive.

 

Herb is not useful until very high levels, so buying resellable armors until the point where one can actually get to those herb levels is reasonable. Your point is true about prayer though, and DFS is indeed overrated.

 

85 is not a very high level, and anyone who has money to buy a DFS, even temporarily, can afford 85 Herblore (or 82 using ales.)

 

Wait, 85 for super antifire? Are those even useful? o_o

 

I thought herb was pretty useless until.. 91 I guess, for extreme magic.

Being able to kill dragons without the use of a shield and anti-fire potions? Yes i call that very useful. Also the Extreme Attack/Strength/Defense also come in handy for bosses and normal slaying.

[Kersei]

 

Being able to kill dragons without the use of a shield and anti-fire potions? Yes i call that very useful. Also the Extreme Attack/Strength/Defense also come in handy for bosses and normal slaying.

 

Killing dragons isn't even that important though, and you can already just use dfs+antifire pot.