Prices for looks? Really?

[Pr3c1pit0us]

What's wrong with wanting to look good?

[Awkward Talking Fish]

D legs show off my tight buns and d skirt doesn't, so I know what I need to wear!

 

:cool:

[Jacks0n]

When I skill I'd rather wear something that looks cool for money over something that looks rubbish for free.

 

EDIT: Oh we're talking about skirts on men.. Whats wrong with that?

 

Internet nerds think it makes you homosexual

 

Haha if they learned to talk to girls they would stop caring about their interwebs manliness. :shame:

 

EDIT: If i wanted to wear d armor, id wear skirt before legs just to save money.

 

I wore a d skirt to save money before I got the level for barrows.

 

It's so much easier.

[3hitm4g3u]

It's not so much that D skirt looks 'gay' so much as the fact that it makes you look like a noob.

And dragon legs don't?

Not to the extent of D skirts.

I'd say you certainly do look like a colossal idiot when you wear a dragon platelegs "for looks" and then wear a rune platebody/fighter torso and berserker helm with it. Nice fashion sense--your bright crimson matches the brown and cyan so well! :rolleyes:

 

Not to mention how you are apparently too poor to spend an extra 400k to upgrade your rune platebody to Guthan's for significant power increases, but not so poor that you can't afford to spend an extra 700k on an item with exactly the same stats.

 

Did you know that 700k will buy you enough repairs on your Barrows platelegs to last you about 140 hours of training? That's long enough to get 99 strength.

How would D skirt look better with your suggested outfit? I don't see how your point is relevant to what I said.

 

If someone can afford 700k extra for an item with same stats it should be common sense they could afford to upgrade their armour. I don't even know where you're getting this rune plate thing from, you make it sound like Jagex has forbidden people from wearing Dragon legs with anything other than Rune platebody or Torso. And Guthan's offers no increase in power at all.

[zotto]

another reason for the diff between d skirt/ d legs is that there are alot less females, and of those females, some of them prefer to wear legs. (when you see full dragon with skirt, you cant really blame them.)

also, skirt drops are somewhat more common then legs, i think.

finally, any males who wear d skirt deserve to die. it just looks soooo stupid!

 

 

That's a bit of a strange statement since everybody walks around in Bandos tassets when they have the cash. Tassets = skirt. Or even worse?

 

Tasset: One of a series of jointed overlapping metal splints hanging from a corselet, used as armor for the lower trunk and thighs.

 

You gladly wear a 'corselet' but not a skirt?

 

 

 

 

Armoured skirts aren't genderspecific. Well, they are I guess, they were all mostly designed for men.

[Plugpoint]

I think it makes sense - if you're a guy with excess money to spend why not go for the option that matches your gender?

If anyone was too poor to afford platelegs and that bothered about the whole "you're wearing a skirt therefore you're gay" thing they'd change their character to female and wear the skirt.

 

Mind you, I'm currently walking around as a hatless Santa Claus so I suppose I can't really comment on appearance :P

[Troacctid]

I'd say you certainly do look like a colossal idiot when you wear a dragon platelegs "for looks" and then wear a rune platebody/fighter torso and berserker helm with it. Nice fashion sense--your bright crimson matches the brown and cyan so well! :rolleyes:

 

Not to mention how you are apparently too poor to spend an extra 400k to upgrade your rune platebody to Guthan's for significant power increases, but not so poor that you can't afford to spend an extra 700k on an item with exactly the same stats.

 

Did you know that 700k will buy you enough repairs on your Barrows platelegs to last you about 140 hours of training? That's long enough to get 99 strength.

How would D skirt look better with your suggested outfit? I don't see how your point is relevant to what I said.

 

If someone can afford 700k extra for an item with same stats it should be common sense they could afford to upgrade their armour. I don't even know where you're getting this rune plate thing from, you make it sound like Jagex has forbidden people from wearing Dragon legs with anything other than Rune platebody or Torso. And Guthan's offers no increase in power at all.

I'm saying the same people who wear dragon platelegs "for looks" are also the people who wear them in disgustingly mismatched outfits, which completely undermines the "looks" they were going for. It's stupid.

 

And what do you mean "Guthan's offers no increase in power at all"? It has about +40 melee defense and +50 range defense over rune. That's a very big upgrade.

[stonewall337]

When I skill I'd rather wear something that looks cool for money over something that looks rubbish for free.

 

EDIT: Oh we're talking about skirts on men.. Whats wrong with that?

 

Internet nerds think it makes you homosexual

 

Haha if they learned to talk to girls they would stop caring about their interwebs manliness. :shame:

 

EDIT: If i wanted to wear d armor, id wear skirt before legs just to save money.

 

I wore a d skirt to save money before I got the level for barrows.

 

It's so much easier.

 

I got guthans as a gift. I used d skirt+black mask+rune plate to train, and guthans for healing, since at the time I was so poor, 100k was a large amount, and I didn't understand everything yet. I though anything dragon was cool.

[Fellfrosch6]

This will be quick, but it's something thats been on my mind for a bit. PRICES HIGHER, FOR BETTER LOOKS?

 

This is mainly the Dragon Plateskirt-Platelegs arguement but, really..Almost 800k more for better looking legs..Seems pointless to me; Has Runescape really diverged into that much of a meterosexual community? Even items like Gnome Goggles have gone up in massive amounts: 20k-487k in two weeks..Thats insane!

 

 

So, i want to hear your discussions on this; Do you think items are really worth paying that much more, just because they look better?

 

Looks have ALWAYS been a main factor in determining who buys something and at what price it is bought at.

 

Are you going to buy a crappy looking car simply because it can get you to point A to B? Or will you prefer to pay a bit more for something that looks snazzy with some extra perks?

It's the same deal with the Dragon Platelegs/skirt.

 

In the end, it's about personal preference and I think most people will always be willing to pay more for something that looks nicer, especially in a virtual world like RS where you can afford to splurge and not have any negative repercussions.

[Range_This11]

Looks have ALWAYS been a main factor in determining who buys something and at what price it is bought at.

 

Are you going to buy a crappy looking car simply because it can get you to point A to B? Or will you prefer to pay a bit more for something that looks snazzy with some extra perks?

It's the same deal with the Dragon Platelegs/skirt.

 

In the end, it's about personal preference and I think most people will always be willing to pay more for something that looks nicer, especially in a virtual world like RS where you can afford to splurge and not have any negative repercussions.

Except platelegs don't have any extra perks. Aside from the opinion that they somehow "look better".

 

I laugh at scapers that pay loads of money for gear that's not worth how much they pay. It's all about bang for your buck.

[3hitm4g3u]

I'd say you certainly do look like a colossal idiot when you wear a dragon platelegs "for looks" and then wear a rune platebody/fighter torso and berserker helm with it. Nice fashion sense--your bright crimson matches the brown and cyan so well! :rolleyes:

 

Not to mention how you are apparently too poor to spend an extra 400k to upgrade your rune platebody to Guthan's for significant power increases, but not so poor that you can't afford to spend an extra 700k on an item with exactly the same stats.

 

Did you know that 700k will buy you enough repairs on your Barrows platelegs to last you about 140 hours of training? That's long enough to get 99 strength.

How would D skirt look better with your suggested outfit? I don't see how your point is relevant to what I said.

 

If someone can afford 700k extra for an item with same stats it should be common sense they could afford to upgrade their armour. I don't even know where you're getting this rune plate thing from, you make it sound like Jagex has forbidden people from wearing Dragon legs with anything other than Rune platebody or Torso. And Guthan's offers no increase in power at all.

I'm saying the same people who wear dragon platelegs "for looks" are also the people who wear them in disgustingly mismatched outfits, which completely undermines the "looks" they were going for. It's stupid.

 

And what do you mean "Guthan's offers no increase in power at all"? It has about +40 melee defense and +50 range defense over rune. That's a very big upgrade.

 

Well picture them people in a D skirt instead. That would look really stupid.

 

Defence doesn't equal power.

[qeltar]

Believe it or not, there are a *lot* of people who really, truly do not care at all about superficial crap like how their outfit looks, or how much they're going to impress friends or onlookers.

 

That's true both in RS and the real world.

 

Honest.

[Fellfrosch6]

Looks have ALWAYS been a main factor in determining who buys something and at what price it is bought at.

 

Are you going to buy a crappy looking car simply because it can get you to point A to B? Or will you prefer to pay a bit more for something that looks snazzy with some extra perks?

It's the same deal with the Dragon Platelegs/skirt.

 

In the end, it's about personal preference and I think most people will always be willing to pay more for something that looks nicer, especially in a virtual world like RS where you can afford to splurge and not have any negative repercussions.

Except platelegs don't have any extra perks. Aside from the opinion that they somehow "look better".

 

I laugh at scapers that pay loads of money for gear that's not worth how much they pay. It's all about bang for your buck.

 

"Bang for your buck" also includes looks, not just performance. How much people value performance over looks (or visa versa) is determined by personal preference and in an overall scheme of things, performance and looks are equally balanced when it comes to determining a price. That's Economics 101.

[totalpwnage]

Have you ever seen the overly used gear for low levels?

Dlegs, granite plate, dmed.

 

These are the people that don't seem to play the game for efficiency or anything, and they make up a lot of the population.

 

So Dlegs are way more expensive + they're quite rare, and you seem to get dskirts more than dlegs at steels/irons ... at least in my experiences :unsure:

I also lol'd at everyone's reactions to Me Hate Libs

[Range_This11]

"Bang for your buck" also includes looks, not just performance. How much people value performance over looks (or visa versa) is determined by personal preference and in an overall scheme of things, performance and looks are equally balanced when it comes to determining a price. That's Economics 101.

Wow, yeah you're totally right! I know when I took my required ECON 201 (yes, 201, not 101) course this semester "bang for your buck" was one of the terms!

 

The term "bang for your buck" does not include looks. That phrase means getting the most performance for your money. Performance has absolutely nothing to do with looks. Performance is performance. My point is that I laugh at people that pay loads of money for an item that, in the case of d platelegs, does not perform any better.

[qeltar]

Economics doesn't deal with words like "looks" or "performance". It uses the term "utility". And that is deliberately vague. The value of something is based on how much people value it, and that can be for any number of reasons.

[Me_Hate_Libs]

Have you ever seen the overly used gear for low levels?

Dlegs, granite plate, dmed.

 

These are the people that don't seem to play the game for efficiency or anything, and they make up a lot of the population.

 

So Dlegs are way more expensive + they're quite rare, and you seem to get dskirts more than dlegs at steels/irons ... at least in my experiences :unsure:

I also lol'd at everyone's reactions to Me Hate Libs

Guys mark out for bras, even if their is nothing in them. Even if you're not wearing them. Guys love bras. It always gets a reaction.

[3hitm4g3u]

"Bang for your buck" also includes looks, not just performance. How much people value performance over looks (or visa versa) is determined by personal preference and in an overall scheme of things, performance and looks are equally balanced when it comes to determining a price. That's Economics 101.

Wow, yeah you're totally right! I know when I took my required ECON 201 (yes, 201, not 101) course this semester "bang for your buck" was one of the terms!

 

The term "bang for your buck" does not include looks. That phrase means getting the most performance for your money. Performance has absolutely nothing to do with looks. Performance is performance. My point is that I laugh at people that pay loads of money for an item that, in the case of d platelegs, does not perform any better.

 

It's a game. People like to have good looking avatars.

[Fellfrosch6]

"Bang for your buck" also includes looks, not just performance. How much people value performance over looks (or visa versa) is determined by personal preference and in an overall scheme of things, performance and looks are equally balanced when it comes to determining a price. That's Economics 101.

Wow, yeah you're totally right! I know when I took my required ECON 201 (yes, 201, not 101) course this semester "bang for your buck" was one of the terms!

 

The term "bang for your buck" does not include looks. That phrase means getting the most performance for your money. Performance has absolutely nothing to do with looks. Performance is performance. My point is that I laugh at people that pay loads of money for an item that, in the case of d platelegs, does not perform any better.

 

If you are taking ECON 201 (I've taken it as well), you should know that the Number 1 principle in Microeconomics that people use to make decisions is the idea that People Face Tradeoffs. In this case, the tradeoff between money and the item.

 

For example, The tradeoff for a slice of pizza (i.e. the price) in many places is $3.50. But, whether this is a reasonable tradeoff is determined by the value of the item to buyer and the seller. For instance, if the Seller needs to sell of this slice to make room for a fresh pizza on the rack, he might be willing to lower the price of the slice. And for instance, if the buyer is extremely hungry, he might even be willing to spend an extra sum of money for the slice. No matter the final price, the slice of pizza has the same functionality. It fills up the buyer's stomach and open up shelf room for the seller to sell more pizza. So a major determinant of price in this case is the Value of the item to the buyer and the seller.

 

This can be applied in the Dragon Platelegs situation. A player who finds the platelegs very attractive looking (an intangible value) will be ready to spend more money on it, even though it might offer inferior stat bonuses (a tangible value) compared to other items. As such, the seller recognizes this as an opportunity for making extra money and raise the price of the item and people who value the look/styling of the item will be willing to pay the increased price. Players who don't value the Dragon Platelegs as highly will simply wait for the price to go down, will try other methods of acquiring said item or might not pursue the item at all.

 

This happens in real life all the time. In fact, Apple, one of the most successful companies of the past decade has thrived due to the fashion value of its products. While their products have innovated the way things work, the major reason people keep coming back to buy apple products, even if the upgrade is minor, is because of how good it looks. As such, Apple can price its products at a costly price point, knowing that there are millions of people who will continue buying their products due to the fashion statements they make.

People who don't value the look of Apple products as highly (myself included), will either buy the products during a discount period or not buy it at all.

 

I personally feel that tangibles, such as stats and performance, and intangibles, such as looks and styling, play a crucial role in the determining of price. So I don't think there is anything wrong with Dragon Platelegs being priced so high. It just so happens that there are many people who value the item at such high a price, be it because of looks, performance (or lake thereof), status symbol etc. In fact, the only reason items such as PHats and Santas are so costly is because of their intangible value (i.e. Rarity). If anything, spending millions on an item with no tangible bonuses is even stupider than spending on Dragon Platelegs. But alas, there is a market for it! I guess that's the free market! Well...as free as it can be nowadays on RS! :P

 

PS: I apologize for the wall of text effect... :oops:

[gremmy]

It's all worth it, yes. Looks > money. It's just pixels, l0l - why care?

[Troacctid]

I'm saying the same people who wear dragon platelegs "for looks" are also the people who wear them in disgustingly mismatched outfits, which completely undermines the "looks" they were going for. It's stupid.

 

And what do you mean "Guthan's offers no increase in power at all"? It has about +40 melee defense and +50 range defense over rune. That's a very big upgrade.

 

Well picture them people in a D skirt instead. That would look really stupid.

 

Defence doesn't equal power.

As one who wore d skirt/granite plate before getting 70 defence, I can honestly say that no, it does not look any uglier at all. It looks pretty much the same.

[Me_Hate_Libs]

I'm still waiting on my Granite Skirt.

 

And Thrander, why oh why did you leave us? :cry:

[3hitm4g3u]

I'm saying the same people who wear dragon platelegs "for looks" are also the people who wear them in disgustingly mismatched outfits, which completely undermines the "looks" they were going for. It's stupid.

 

And what do you mean "Guthan's offers no increase in power at all"? It has about +40 melee defense and +50 range defense over rune. That's a very big upgrade.

 

Well picture them people in a D skirt instead. That would look really stupid.

 

Defence doesn't equal power.

As one who wore d skirt/granite plate before getting 70 defence, I can honestly say that no, it does not look any uglier at all. It looks pretty much the same.

 

You may have convinced yourself that D skirt made you look pro beast but actually it didn't.

 

That 'pretty much' you speak of is the difference that matters. I myself am completely unbiased to the whole D leg/D skirt debate so I can tell you D skirt makes you look alot noobier. I'm not saying that should be something you should worry about but it's a fact.

[Gandorf61]

That 'pretty much' you speak of is the difference that matters. I myself am completely unbiased to the whole D leg/D skirt debate so I can tell you D skirt makes you look alot noobier. I'm not saying that should be something you should worry about but it's a fact.

 

Actually that's an opinion. In reality though that's what paying for looks all really comes down to, your own opinions as well as the ones of others. It's the same as if I were to wear full bronze around everywhere. Would I look like a newbie? Yes, because that's the image people have when they see bronze armour. It's not a fact that bronze armour makes you look not as good but rather the stereotype that "bronze is for noobs".

 

Which brings up another point, why do people pay tons of cash for expensive items that are useless? Because in their opinion it makes them unique and cool. A lot of people pay insane amounts of gp to look different or respectable in the eyes of other players. While sometimes stats and bonuses of the equipment come into play, for the most part it's just to meet the opinions and expectations of others.

[stonewall337]

That 'pretty much' you speak of is the difference that matters. I myself am completely unbiased to the whole D leg/D skirt debate so I can tell you D skirt makes you look alot noobier. I'm not saying that should be something you should worry about but it's a fact.

 

Actually that's an opinion. In reality though that's what paying for looks all really comes down to, your own opinions as well as the ones of others. It's the same as if I were to wear full bronze around everywhere. Would I look like a newbie? Yes, because that's the image people have when they see bronze armour. It's not a fact that bronze armour makes you look not as good but rather the stereotype that "bronze is for noobs".

 

Which brings up another point, why do people pay tons of cash for expensive items that are useless? Because in their opinion it makes them unique and cool. A lot of people pay insane amounts of gp to look different or respectable in the eyes of other players. While sometimes stats and bonuses of the equipment come into play, for the most part it's just to meet the opinions and expectations of others.

 

Or to make it easier to get into a team.