Dragon chainbody?

[Umoria]

So I have a task of Fire Giants right now. And I just range them, since my range can use an update.

But I'm more fond of melee, and ever since I completed all the F2P tasks I wear a rune platebody. I think I can use a different body.

And Fire Giants use crush attacks, so a chainbody is better then platebody.

 

I don't have lots of cash, and I got a torag body in bank, just for some tasks.

But with 8 mil on bank, just doing nothing, I started to think to buy the dragon chainbody.

 

Is it a good piece of armour, if I have 8 mil, and don't want to spend cash on barrowarmour?

Is it better then the rune platebody?

Or are there better options, if I just make more money?

[kamil1210]

D chain is crap not worth milions of gp. You should go play BA and get tors or you can use barrows armour (if you will training slayer while waering barrows armour you won't loss cash).

[stormveritas]

One rune scim drop at fire giants will pay for a full task and then some using Torag's platebody.

 

Barrows continues to be the most underpriced, underrated high level combat armor in the game.

[Sea_dragon35]

Barrows continues to be the most underpriced, underrated high level combat armor in the game.

This. Just get some barrows, its better and much cheaper then D chain.

[Zaaps1]

Barrows is much, much better. The only armor that can compete with it at a high level (for melee) is bandos.

[Dire_Wolf]

Dragon chainbody does not give you good or great protection. It's just better than Rune platebody.

 

What i recommend you do with your 8,000,000 GP:

Do Stealing creation minigame (100% free and safe):

Obtain Stealing creation/Sacred clay hammers through that minigame. They double XP of smithing.

 

Many clan chat groups work peacefully together to make Stealing Creation minigame go as fast as possible and without combat in any form involved in the rounds. Such clan chats are:

SC_Claymates, Quick_SC, FAst_sc, Fast_sc2, Smooth_SC.

 

So what am i saying?

I am advicing you to use your 8M on smithing. Advantages of leveling smithing:

1) The higher smithing you have the cheaper Barrow armour and weapon will be in Player owned houses (Armour stand in Workshop room). Barrow armour is the best armour to use in-game.

 

Bandos is expensive and does not degrade, but Bandos defense can not compare to Barrows. Barrows is NUMBER ONE (best armour for defense) while Bandos is number three or four. Bandos advantage is that it does not degrade (but it's not close of being best protection), and it has strength bonus. Bandos also costs far to much and it's not worth the strength bonus and non-degradable effect.

 

2) Higher smithing will be advantage in Diaries, Quests and future contents. Already in many quests higher smithing is required.

 

I have around 84,000,000 GP - 84M. I am Combat 138, and level 99 in all combat. My path is "Way of the Warrior", and i can tell you...Barrow armours are great to use. So as you can see, even with money, Bandos nor Dragon chainbody/platebody can beat the great defense of Barrows.

 

I hope you make a good choice, GOOD LUCK!

[Cptbaker08]

If you want to range your fire giants, might i suggest you safe spot them in the Waterfall. Much better then having to tank them.

[gspbeetle]

High level people here who dont use welfare gear doesnt seem to remember there is something called a granite body... <_<

 

Granite body is cheap (and its price will drop further more), no quest requirement, you dont have to play ba to get it (but it would be 1.5x more expensive in GE), better stats except weight than rune plate and no repair bills.

 

Never buy chain, if you have enough money. get dragon plate instead (13mil).

 

Assume you can resell everything with no loss, the barrow repair bill just doesnt worth it ... except guthans of cause.

[Sinkhan]

High level people here who dont use welfare gear doesnt seem to remember there is something called a granite body... <_<

 

Granite body is cheap (and its price will drop further more), no quest requirement, you dont have to play ba to get it (but it would be 1.5x more expensive in GE), better stats except weight than rune plate and no repair bills.

 

Never buy chain, if you have enough money. get dragon plate instead (13mil).

 

Assume you can resell everything with no loss, the barrow repair bill just doesnt worth it ... except guthans of cause.

 

If you can't make the paltry 200-300k to fix barrows after FIFTEEN HOURS of usage, then there is something seriously wrong. The food you would save and thus time you save from not having to bank as much would certainly make up for it, amongst other factors.

[gspbeetle]

High level people here who dont use welfare gear doesnt seem to remember there is something called a granite body... <_<

 

Granite body is cheap (and its price will drop further more), no quest requirement, you dont have to play ba to get it (but it would be 1.5x more expensive in GE), better stats except weight than rune plate and no repair bills.

 

Never buy chain, if you have enough money. get dragon plate instead (13mil).

 

Assume you can resell everything with no loss, the barrow repair bill just doesnt worth it ... except guthans of cause.

 

If you can't make the paltry 200-300k to fix barrows after FIFTEEN HOURS of usage, then there is something seriously wrong. The food you would save and thus time you save from not having to bank as much would certainly make up for it, amongst other factors.

 

Except guthans, the extra bonus barrows provide wont save you much food nor time than your average welfare amour... Think about void and fremmy helm+gplate+dskirt combo.

And for guthans, you should only wear it when you need heals.

Furthermore, a loss is a loss, the extra 200-300k per 15 hour can make a difference if he save it... it maybe the difference for him to upgrade w/e better amour / weapon he always wants faster....

[Sinkhan]

If he has enough to even consider buying a D chain, he can afford barrows. Money is not nearly as big an issue here compared to actual effectiveness.

 

Torag's is 20-30% better in just about every category and less than half the weight compared to the granite body. There are some things you just cannot do effectively without exceptional defence bonuses.

 

To be perfectly honest, he'd be fine with the rune plate over the granite body. The gpb is only 5-10% better so unless he needs excessive amounts of ranged defence, the rune plate is all that he really needs. An even better option would be a sacred clay platebody, which is significantly lighter than both options, but maintains the bonuses of rune plate.

[Vulxai]

High level people here who dont use welfare gear doesnt seem to remember there is something called a granite body...

 

Granite body is cheap (and its price will drop further more), no quest requirement, you dont have to play ba to get it (but it would be 1.5x more expensive in GE), better stats except weight than rune plate and no repair bills.

 

Never buy chain, if you have enough money. get dragon plate instead (13mil).

 

Assume you can resell everything with no loss, the barrow repair bill just doesnt worth it ... except guthans of cause.

 

If you can't make the paltry 200-300k to fix barrows after FIFTEEN HOURS of usage, then there is something seriously wrong. The food you would save and thus time you save from not having to bank as much would certainly make up for it, amongst other factors.

 

Except guthans, the extra bonus barrows provide wont save you much food nor time than your average welfare amour... Think about void and fremmy helm+gplate+dskirt combo.

And for guthans, you should only wear it when you need heals.

Furthermore, a loss is a loss, the extra 200-300k per 15 hour can make a difference if he save it... it maybe the difference for him to upgrade w/e better amour / weapon he always wants faster....

 

Most people only use the plate and the legs. That's only 90k and 80k respectively if you DON'T use your own repair stand in your house, which reduces that. You could go kick chickens for that, it's nothing compared to the bonuses you get.

 

EDIT: Just noticed Umoria doesn't have 55 construction, however I recommend that he/she gets it. If Umoria uses sacred clay hammers, it'd cost less than 250k to get 55 construction, without the hammers it's still under 500k. That's a flat fee to have cheaper barrows repair for life, which with his 61 smithing is about 30.5% cheaper costs. So if Umoria uses barrows plate and legs, it's just under 63k and 56k respectively. That's less than 119k per 15 hours. I never even let my barrows go below 50, most of the time if it's at 75 I'll swing by and repair it because it's such a small cost.

[Bladewing]

Let me give you a little anecdotal evidence. At maxed stats, I can kill abyssal demons indefinitely (with a bunyip) with RUNE ARMOR. No sense using Barrows armor here! However, for things like dust devils or nechyrael where multiple monsters may be attacking me due to the use of combat familiars in multicombat, I use barrows to reduce the amount of food I use.

 

If you are using a bunyip and you need food, use better armor. Or more generally, if you need to use food, use better armor.

[gspbeetle]

If he has enough to even consider buying a D chain, he can afford barrows. Money is not nearly as big an issue here compared to actual effectiveness.

 

Torag's is 20-30% better in just about every category and less than half the weight compared to the granite body. There are some things you just cannot do effectively without exceptional defence bonuses.

 

To be perfectly honest, he'd be fine with the rune plate over the granite body. The gpb is only 5-10% better so unless he needs excessive amounts of ranged defence, the rune plate is all that he really needs. An even better option would be a sacred clay platebody, which is significantly lighter than both options, but maintains the bonuses of rune plate.

 

You know... guthans is cheaper than torag's... right?

And if he eventually made enough for full set, the more he can save.

 

edit: stats here

rune: 82 +80 +72 -6 +80 +40

granite: 87 +84 +79 -6 +97 +45

barrows: +122 +120 +107 -6 +132 +60

[Vulxai]

If he has enough to even consider buying a D chain, he can afford barrows. Money is not nearly as big an issue here compared to actual effectiveness.

 

Torag's is 20-30% better in just about every category and less than half the weight compared to the granite body. There are some things you just cannot do effectively without exceptional defence bonuses.

 

To be perfectly honest, he'd be fine with the rune plate over the granite body. The gpb is only 5-10% better so unless he needs excessive amounts of ranged defence, the rune plate is all that he really needs. An even better option would be a sacred clay platebody, which is significantly lighter than both options, but maintains the bonuses of rune plate.

 

You know... guthans is cheaper... right?

 

The leg's are also weaker, which is why many people use mismatched barrows pieces if they don't need the set effect.

[Sinkhan]

 

You know... guthans is cheaper... right?

 

As the OP already stated, he has a torag plate.

[gspbeetle]

 

You know... guthans is cheaper... right?

 

As the OP already stated, he has a torag plate.

 

He can always sell it and get money back.

 

 

The leg's are also weaker, which is why many people use mismatched barrows pieces if they don't need the set effect.

 

That guy above you stat that granite is such a small upgrade that he should not spend money for... In this case, the difference between torag and guthans is even more trace. Btw, Guthans plate and torags plate has the same bonus with a smaller price tag.

[Vulxai]

You know... guthans is cheaper... right?

 

As the OP already stated, he has a torag plate.

 

He can always sell it and get money back.

 

The leg's are also weaker, which is why many people use mismatched barrows pieces if they don't need the set effect.

 

That guy above you stat that granite is such as small upgrade that he should not spend money for... In this case, the difference between torag and guthans is even more trace. Btw, Guthans plate and torags plate has the same bonus with a smaller price tag.

 

Actually the upgrade from rune to granite is pretty close to the upgrade from guthan's legs to torag's legs.

[Sinkhan]

Ok, I'll give you the point on guthan's vs torag's. The argument still stands between granite plate and barrows. It's just so much more of a significant difference when you need the higher defence. However, any situation where you could you the granite plate could be done almost identically with the rune plate (Again with the exception of ranged def situations).

 

Right now he's going at fire giants, which have a reasonably high accuracy. If he really wants crush defence, he should go barrows which has more crush defence than the dragon chain he was considering but at like 1/20th of the cost. Otherwise, the rune plate would be sufficient and getting a granite plate would yield very unnoticeable results.

[Guest jrhairychest]

Barrows continues to be the most underpriced, underrated high level combat armor in the game.

This. Just get some barrows, its better and much cheaper then D chain.

I'll third it (actually untrue as many got there before me). Torags plate and legs won't break the bank and keep repair costs to a minimum.

[Umoria]

High level people here who dont use welfare gear doesnt seem to remember there is something called a granite body...

 

Granite body is cheap (and its price will drop further more), no quest requirement, you dont have to play ba to get it (but it would be 1.5x more expensive in GE), better stats except weight than rune plate and no repair bills.

 

Never buy chain, if you have enough money. get dragon plate instead (13mil).

 

Assume you can resell everything with no loss, the barrow repair bill just doesnt worth it ... except guthans of cause.

 

If you can't make the paltry 200-300k to fix barrows after FIFTEEN HOURS of usage, then there is something seriously wrong. The food you would save and thus time you save from not having to bank as much would certainly make up for it, amongst other factors.

 

Except guthans, the extra bonus barrows provide wont save you much food nor time than your average welfare amour... Think about void and fremmy helm+gplate+dskirt combo.

And for guthans, you should only wear it when you need heals.

Furthermore, a loss is a loss, the extra 200-300k per 15 hour can make a difference if he save it... it maybe the difference for him to upgrade w/e better amour / weapon he always wants faster....

 

Most people only use the plate and the legs. That's only 90k and 80k respectively if you DON'T use your own repair stand in your house, which reduces that. You could go kick chickens for that, it's nothing compared to the bonuses you get.

 

EDIT: Just noticed Umoria doesn't have 55 construction, however I recommend that he/she gets it. If Umoria uses sacred clay hammers, it'd cost less than 250k to get 55 construction, without the hammers it's still under 500k. That's a flat fee to have cheaper barrows repair for life, which with his 61 smithing is about 30.5% cheaper costs. So if Umoria uses barrows plate and legs, it's just under 63k and 56k respectively. That's less than 119k per 15 hours. I never even let my barrows go below 50, most of the time if it's at 75 I'll swing by and repair it because it's such a small cost.

 

Well I didn't thought such a question would end up in a discussion like this. It's a lot to read, but I get some insights in things I never thought before.

I went to Fire Giants with Torag body, dragon legs, dragon boots, whip, defender, slayer helmet, RFD gloves, glory (since fury went through the roof) and obby cape.

In Iventory I had some monks, ánd guthans to heal. Basiclly I only used 1 monk, because the healing took more time. I did just fine with torag body.

Now I can imagine using torag legs and body would save more healing, but I just did fine.

I really didn't thought of barrows, as one of you said, it's underrated.

 

As for 55 construction: after the task I went to my house. Since it was a REAL mess, I putted in some time and effort. And money offcourse.

First I made Eagle Lectern, and the best telescope I can make now. Used some items for two beds (I want the servant/slave) and build a chapel with teak altar now. Really love the crystal saw :)

I pretty much get the hang of construction atm, and started to like it. So I will go for 55 construction some days, because I want to use my house more often. So now I aim for portal.

But first I need to replace every wooden thing for oak or teak. It looks better, and I get some exp.

Yesterday I finally traded 5 longbones for exp, wich made me 47 construction, and build some things wich boosted me to 48.

 

But mainly, the discussion has given me an importent insight: dragon chain is overrated, and to spend money, I should aim for barrows ór the dragon platebody.

Since I have torag, I might just save the money, made some more, and overthink the next steps :mrgreen:

[Umoria]

Well, as for the sacred hammers, what is this SC all about?

Someone mentioned clans and such that won't fight, but mine clay for the hammers, to speed smithing/construction?

I should go and read some stuff about it, since more and more people in the forums suggest the sacred hammer/harpoon etc. for training.

[Dire_Wolf]

Stealing Creation minigame guide on Tip.it site:

http://www.tip.it/runescape/?page=stealing_creation.htm

 

Stealing Creation is a minigame you do with other players to get tools that give you double experience when using the tools. For example, the most used tools are:

Sacred clay needle (double experience in Crafting when making leather, dragonhide and so on), Sacred clay hammer (double experience for Construction and Smithing).

 

Stealing Creation is VERY important if your gonna level non-combat skills like Smithing, Crafting and Construction. It saves you loads cash! There are also more skills which you can use tools for double experience.

 

Read the guide.

 

By the way Barrows are better than Dragon platebody, but if you like Dragon, i'd say go for Dragon platebody! Another thing, i know about Fire giants spots, i will post maps of the spots with safespots showed.

[Obtaurian]

You'll save way more money using barrows and paying the repair costs than you will buying a dragon chainbody and keeping it. As others have stated in this thread, barrows is the best, most underrated armor in the game.

 

The best, most efficient (and effective) slayer gear is a Bandos plate, Verac's skirt, and SW cape. Using piety, of course.

[Umoria]

Bandos plate, Verac's skirt and SW cape is best slayer outfit? Well I think SW cape is Soul Wars cape, wich you get after the new master quest.

Well, I like dragon alot, but maybe I just buy it when I have money to burn. And at this time, I can't burn up too much money.

 

So barrows it is, I'm really happy with Guthan's atm, something I don't like to sell!

 

As far as SC goes, I have to read ALOT I see. For enough tools I should spend good time. But he, if it's gonna save me loads of cash in the long run, I give it a try.

Well, of to study Stealing Creation!