Farming

[Robert_R]

This is really cool:

 

50 toadflax seeds farmed

 

87 farming

 

magic secateurs

 

supercompost on all patches

 

Average herbs farmed: 5

 

 

Awesome jagex thanks for making higher farming levels increase herb yield rates.

 

Even more awesome just did a herb run and farmed a total of 11 herbs out of 4 toadflax seeds. Two of them died.

 

/rant

 

 

Here's some things that point out that farming level barely plays any role in yield rates.

 

 

The whole point of this rant is that farming level has nothing to do with yield rates for anyone who can't figure that out. Basically instead of farming level playing the big factor in yield rates, luck plays the biggest role. In fact, farming level seems to play and role at all.

 

 

Look at this thread on rsof of an actual test between two very different level farmers and there results:

74-75-80-58949891

 

And then look at what bladewing farmed in 50 seeds compared to what I said I farmed. (He's 95 farming I'm 87 almost the same as the two from the test)

 

And tell me luck doesn't play the biggest role, if not the only role, in yield rates.

[Bladewing]

Jagex is conspiring against you. Obviously not just a run of bad luck, which is what happens to most players.

[K4ylan]

Jagex is conspiring against you. Obviously not just a run of bad luck, which is what happens to most players.

 

I don't even think it is possible to get that much bad luck. I'm going with the conspiracy theory tbh.

[The_Gabe]

This is really cool:

 

50 toadflax seeds farmed

 

87 farming

 

magic secateurs

 

supercompost on all patches

 

Average herbs farmed: 5

 

 

Awesome jagex thanks for making higher farming levels increase herb yield rates.

 

 

Even more awesome just did a herb run and farmed a total of 11 herbs out of 4 toadflax seeds.

 

That can't happen. The minimum amount you can get from a herb seed is 5..

[Dax]

This is really cool:

 

50 toadflax seeds farmed

 

87 farming

 

magic secateurs

 

supercompost on all patches

 

Average herbs farmed: 5

 

 

Awesome jagex thanks for making higher farming levels increase herb yield rates.

 

 

Even more awesome just did a herb run and farmed a total of 11 herbs out of 4 toadflax seeds.

 

That can't happen. The minimum amount you can get from a herb seed is 5..

 

He could killed off two patches and gotten 5 from one and 6 from another. I know it's worded as though they all grew.

[K4ylan]

 

This is really cool:50 toadflax seeds farmed87 farmingmagic secateurssupercompost on all patchesAverage herbs farmed: 5 Awesome jagex thanks for making higher farming levels increase herb yield rates.Even more awesome just did a herb run and farmed a total of 11 herbs out of 4 toadflax seeds.

That can't happen. The minimum amount you can get from a herb seed is 5..

He could killed off two patches and gotten 5 from one and 6 from another. I know it's worded as though they all grew.

 

 

Oh, that makes much more sense. But still, I haven't ever gotten less than 7 Herbs, even with my noob Farming level.

[Robert_R]

 

This is really cool:50 toadflax seeds farmed87 farmingmagic secateurssupercompost on all patchesAverage herbs farmed: 5 Awesome jagex thanks for making higher farming levels increase herb yield rates.Even more awesome just did a herb run and farmed a total of 11 herbs out of 4 toadflax seeds.

That can't happen. The minimum amount you can get from a herb seed is 5..

He could killed off two patches and gotten 5 from one and 6 from another. I know it's worded as though they all grew.

 

 

Oh, that makes much more sense. But still, I haven't ever gotten less than 7 Herbs, even with my noob Farming level.

Which is exactly why I'm not very happy atm. Farm level has no effect on herb yield rate. Jagex says it does but it doesn't. There's a thread on rsof that tested his farm level(95) to his friend's farm level (I think it was 80) with 5 different seeds 20 times each and it actually turned out that his friend had a higher yield rate average then him.

 

And ya 2 of the seeds did die.

[Jacks0n]

Never rant farming. Farming is win beyond all levels.

[oropher]

Maybe you would get more herbs/seed if you used My Arms patch as well. You can't expect to get 6.5/6.7 yield average if you don't use all patches(specially one that can't die...)

[Kaphias]

Maybe you would get more herbs/seed if you used My Arms patch as well. You can't expect to get 6.5/6.7 yield average if you don't use all patches(specially one that can't die...)

I averaged 6.6/patch without using My Arm's patch.

 

Farming is interesting in that its workings are relatively unknown. By that I mean we don't know how the code dictates a lot of things. It's just something that you have to put up with as a person actively training the skill.

[Robert_R]

Maybe you would get more herbs/seed if you used My Arms patch as well. You can't expect to get 6.5/6.7 yield average if you don't use all patches(specially one that can't die...)

I did include that in my overall average.

 

The last trip that I put info for at the bottom was 4 toadflax seeds, I didn't have normal magic on so I didn't bother with my arms patch.

[stonewall337]

Actually, I think the opposite happened. Numerous people I've been talking to have seen an INCREASE in average yield.

[Robert_R]

Actually, I think the opposite happened. Numerous people I've been talking to have seen an INCREASE in average yield.

I didn't say there was a change and there wasn't a change to farming recently, not even in a long time. It's always been that farming level never really helped in herb yields. It's just starting to annoy me now thought because I never really cared before.

 

If you're talking about the opposite as in higher level makes an increase, I never said it makes it decrease.

[stonewall337]

I don't understand what you said.

 

You are ranting because you had bad luck farming

 

I said that there could be a faint chance that farming was updated, to improve the average yield, or so it seems from several people's unofficial testing.

 

Im confused.

[Robert_R]

I don't understand what you said.

 

You are ranting because you had bad luck farming

 

I said that there could be a faint chance that farming was updated, to improve the average yield, or so it seems from several people's unofficial testing.

 

Im confused.

I'd consider it bad luck if it was only 20 maybe 30 seeds but I'm now at 80 seeds and still at an average of 5-6 herbs per seed. Yes including My Arms patch.

 

I don't think jagex would update farming like that with out some sort of announcement even if it was just in the patch notes.

 

This thread on rsof pretty much proves that higher levels have very little or no effect on yield. Well at least it's the only thing I can find that actually did testing for this.

 

74-75-80-58949891

[Bladewing]

50 seeds grown:

 

No universal nerf. You just had bad luck.

[Shovelmeface]

Like everything else in RS its all based on luck. You have pewp days most of the times, but one one occasion, like Bladewing above shows, you can pull a swift one and get a ton of produce.

 

Kinda like my luck with clues <_< never had anything better than a Zammy page 4.

[Robert_R]

50 seeds grown:

 

No universal nerf. You just had bad luck.

I never said anything about a nerf..........

 

My whole point is farming level has nothing to do with yield rates.

[Omali]

50 seeds grown:

 

No universal nerf. You just had bad luck.

I never said anything about a nerf..........

 

My whole point is farming level has nothing to do with yield rates.

 

He has 95 farming, you have 87. He gets better yields than you do, and has higher farming.

 

Your move.

[Robert_R]

50 seeds grown:

 

No universal nerf. You just had bad luck.

I never said anything about a nerf..........

 

My whole point is farming level has nothing to do with yield rates.

 

He has 95 farming, you have 87. He gets better yields than you do, and has higher farming.

 

Your move.

Look at the thread that I posted a quick find code for. It compares 95 farming to 82 I think it was. They tested 10 seeds of each herb and the lower level farmer actually turned out with a higher average yield out of all of the herbs combined. You should really look at it before responding to what I just said.

 

After you look at that and how bladewing's results compare to mine tell me that farming level plays a role in yield rates.

 

 

In there test the lower level farmer grew more herbs, Compare my results and bladewing's and the higher level farmer grew more herbs. Very inconsistent.

[Bladewing]

That picture was just to show that there has not been a universal nerf, and you just got unlucky.

 

It has long been established that your herb yield does not increase with level. I still get the same average rate as I did at 40 farming.

 

When, on the goals tab, it says "you will get more yield" or whatever the wording is, it refers to allottments, hops, and the like. I notice a much larger yield in these than I did at lower levels.

[Capone_Sabre]

50 seeds grown:

 

No universal nerf. You just had bad luck.

I never said anything about a nerf..........

 

My whole point is farming level has nothing to do with yield rates.

 

He has 95 farming, you have 87. He gets better yields than you do, and has higher farming.

 

Your move.

 

I have 22m farming xp, at least 15m of that is from farming herbs. Having a higher farming level has absolutely no bearing on your herb yield whatsoever. It's all luck.

[D Jay99]

Besides, 80 seeds and a low average is nothing to complain about. Try 1k seeds and if your average is still under 6.6 when you're done you can complain.

[Robert_R]

That picture was just to show that there has not been a universal nerf, and you just got unlucky.

 

It has long been established that your herb yield does not increase with level. I still get the same average rate as I did at 40 farming.

 

When, on the goals tab, it says "you will get more yield" or whatever the wording is, it refers to allottments, hops, and the like. I notice a much larger yield in these than I did at lower levels.

I know there has been no universal nerf and I never said there was..... :wall:

I'm complaining about the lack of use farming level has in yield rates.

 

50 seeds grown:

 

No universal nerf. You just had bad luck.

I never said anything about a nerf..........

 

My whole point is farming level has nothing to do with yield rates.

 

He has 95 farming, you have 87. He gets better yields than you do, and has higher farming.

 

Your move.

 

I have 22m farming xp, at least 15m of that is from farming herbs. Having a higher farming level has absolutely no bearing on your herb yield whatsoever. It's all luck.

Finally someone who actually knows what I'm trying to say.

 

Besides, 80 seeds and a low average is nothing to complain about. Try 1k seeds and if your average is still under 6.6 when you're done you can complain.

I don't recall asking for permission to complain. And that's not even what I'm really complaining about. And come on 1k seeds.. That's 250 hours at the least amount of time. That's about 13 days doing 19 herb runs a day meaning for anyone but gertjaars it's a lot more than 13 days. If you can find someone that has actually tested that many seeds and kept a record of it I'd love to see it. I'm sure tons of people have farmed 1k seeds, actually I probably have, but I don't know of anyone who kept a record of herb yields doing 1000 seeds

[Omali]

I don't recall asking for permission to complain. And that's not even what I'm really complaining about. And come on 1k seeds.. That's 250 hours at the least amount of time. That's about 13 days doing 19 herb runs a day meaning for anyone but gertjaars it's a lot more than 13 days. If you can find someone that has actually tested that many seeds and kept a record of it I'd love to see it. I'm sure tons of people have farmed 1k seeds, actually I probably have, but I don't know of anyone who kept a record of herb yields doing 1000 seeds

 

50 seeds doesn't produce credible results. Nowhere near close to presentable research.