Dragon crossbow soon?

[3hitm4g3u]

Deflect prayers where a move on the right direcion with a 60% damage reduce you don't have to take much damage if you don't want to.

Same for soul split healing you for more damage you do, allowing less eating to have to take place

unforutatly most kids in pvp refuse to fight prayer/deflects, soul split, safers, anyone with better gear(barrows etc),turmoil or anyone not meeling with a whip or d scim(scary hand-cannon noob' or pvp weapon kid) and i have a feeling anything put into place to reduce damage or increase hp would either be far too exspensive (divine) or you will be labled a 'sad noob' for using these new features because they either take a small amount of questing or stops peoples ags's they spent bank on wrecking you.

The combat triangle isn't the problem the general whiny pkers are. Upsetting meele dominance will cause much nerd-rage

 

Hmm, you sound like one of those kids who doesn't actually PK but still thinks you know alot about it and the people who do PK.

Actually I'm one of those kids who has pked over 1bil in NEW bh, has a main a range tank a claw pure a dfs pure and a mauler. I was pking (though not that much) even in classic with my iban Mage tank , I proberly have been pking before you started playing so I think I know what I'm talking about

I know what I'm talking about k?

 

76ks don't count as pking.

 

I was also pking, on a pure, in classic so I highly doubt you were pking before I started playing. And I have alot of different accounts as well, what's your point? The number of accounts you own isn't proportionate to your pking ability, but then again I'm not surprised that you believe it is.

 

It's just annoying when people tell lies about pkers/pking on here because other tip.iters who don't pk (a majority) believe it.

[999134]

76ks don't count as pking.

 

I was also pking, on a pure, in classic so I highly doubt you were pking before I started playing. And I have alot of different accounts as well, what's your point? The number of accounts you own isn't proportionate to your pking ability, but then again I'm not surprised that you believe it is.

 

It's just annoying when people tell lies about pkers/pking on here because other tip.iters who don't pk (a majority) believe it.

you just cannot accept anyone with the abiltiy to contrust more than a one line flame is a pker, I'd ask you to do a dm but you would moan about my superior stats, gear an skill.

[Demario]

I have a feeling that they meant something much bigger for rebalancing the combat triangle than adding one expensive mage item :^_^:

 

 

i agree with you

[Sutty]

Dragon crossbow would probably just be another item to unbalance the combat triangle.

 

cb triangle seems pretty good atm.

 

The you need to take another look at ranged because it is far more underpowered than melee or mage atm.

 

Dragon crossbow is something range needs to become part of the combat triangle again. (and if it fails like the hc i will will blow up Jagex ) :twisted:

 

I obviously have or i wouldn't have said it, range is fine atm, if it was sooo underpowered why do so many people still use range for pvm activities?

 

Because you find a stafe spot and stay there until you're done/run out of arrows, have to bank. If you melee, you gotta bring food or other stuff. Let's face it, ranging without safespots sucks. I don't think that has ever been brought up.

 

you need to mage in safespots also, so face it range/mage/meele are quite equal atm. nice try :thumbup:

 

Yes, but Mages can also freeze you. Rangers are entirely dependent on safe spots, at least as it relates to PVM and honestly, that's all I care about.

 

In case you didn't realise the freezes do not last long, mages use safe spots as they're easier and you dont need to keep moving around.

[brunokiller]

I've then seen pictures of people like Bruno taking people out in a couple of hits using void and handcannons.

 

You realise those are rare right? :razz:

 

Ranged is almost on par with melee dps wise....luckely there aren't any really lethal ranged combo's yet. A dragon claws like range weapon would be a disaster lol.

[Zepheras]

Considering that crossbows do not affect the max damage you can deal, and if there's dragon metal bolts it would be too expensive for everyday use, and the fact that almost every standard rune weapon has a dragon counterpart, a dragon crossbow wouldn't be that bad, nor surprising. It's just going to have a special attack, is all. Let's see.....

 

A special attack that creates four sillouettes of your avatar and fires 2 rapid rounds of 4 x 50% damage shots, and turns your opponents auto retaliate off, after which you carry on firing 1 x 100% shot while he looks for the real target to hit?

 

 

:twisted:

[Sutty]

Let's see.....

 

A special attack that creates four sillouettes of your avatar and fires 2 rapid rounds of 4 x 50% damage shots, and turns your opponents auto retaliate off, after which you carry on firing 1 x 100% shot while he looks for the real target to hit?

 

 

:twisted:

 

Lol, woot 100% support :thumbup:

[glasscube]

I've then seen pictures of people like Bruno taking people out in a couple of hits using void and handcannons.

 

You realise those are rare right? :razz:

 

Ranged is almost on par with melee dps wise....luckely there aren't any really lethal ranged combo's yet. A dragon claws like range weapon would be a disaster lol.

They need to bring back two specs on the MSB, just like good ol times.

[brunokiller]

I've then seen pictures of people like Bruno taking people out in a couple of hits using void and handcannons.

 

You realise those are rare right? :razz:

 

Ranged is almost on par with melee dps wise....luckely there aren't any really lethal ranged combo's yet. A dragon claws like range weapon would be a disaster lol.

They need to bring back two specs on the MSB, just like good ol times.

 

20-20 20-20 in 2 seconds is big if you are a lvl 60.

[howbadisbad]

Dragon crossbow would probably just be another item to unbalance the combat triangle.

 

cb triangle seems pretty good atm.

 

The you need to take another look at ranged because it is far more underpowered than melee or mage atm.

 

Dragon crossbow is something range needs to become part of the combat triangle again. (and if it fails like the hc i will will blow up Jagex ) :twisted:

 

I completely disagree. Ranged hasn't gotten any updates lately, but it's far from underpowered. Morrigan's weapons, dragonstone bolts, and handcannons are all heavy hitters. Ranged is still a big contender.

 

Wrong, you sound like you have never ranged in your life. Don't mention dragon bolts because 95% of people use antifires. Cannon is just lolfail, inaccurate and weak compared to a godsword with a fail special that you must be disconnecting to get killed by. And Javs are just terrible in many ways, they are very inaccurate even if your wearing full armadyl or void, and when they actually do hit, they often hit low.

[999134]

Hand cannon spec is amazing on rapid, most people don't see you charging it and even if they do without void it's still like 100 damage with attacksless than a second apart.

D fire bolts suck as the special is so rare.

Dark bow just isn't as good as hand cannon

morrigan javlins can be amazing comboing but morrigan axes are a little phail.

And at that person complaining Mage too slow to train barrgaing ape atoll or rock lobbies is epic fast.

[Dormado]

Hand cannon spec is amazing on rapid, most people don't see you charging it and even if they do without void it's still like 100 damage with attacksless than a second apart.

D fire bolts suck as the special is so rare.

Dark bow just isn't as good as hand cannon

morrigan javlins can be amazing comboing but morrigan axes are a little phail.

And at that person complaining Mage too slow to train barrgaing ape atoll or rock lobbies is epic fast.

 

agreed on all aspects, I ahev fought the handcannon in the duel arena, wow, it owns hard, its a little slow, but I think the average damage is something like 2,5 times greater.

 

And battlemaging isnt slow, its one of the rare ways to level magic with gaining money, and HP experience,

[howbadisbad]

Hand cannon spec is amazing on rapid, most people don't see you charging it and even if they do without void it's still like 100 damage with attacksless than a second apart.

D fire bolts suck as the special is so rare.

Dark bow just isn't as good as hand cannon

morrigan javlins can be amazing comboing but morrigan axes are a little phail.

And at that person complaining Mage too slow to train barrgaing ape atoll or rock lobbies is epic fast.

 

agreed on all aspects, I ahev fought the handcannon in the duel arena, wow, it owns hard, its a little slow, but I think the average damage is something like 2,5 times greater.

 

And battlemaging isnt slow, its one of the rare ways to level magic with gaining money, and HP experience,

 

 

The special is not rare, people just use pots.

Dark bow is better than the hand cannon.

Morrgain's axes are better than javs.

 

Handcannon spec is never amazing and is much easier to see coming than any other rushing weapon.

You wouldn't 1v1 with void and a handcannon in bh.

Handcannon is not good dps.

You need to go to bh and try to use it to understand.

[brunokiller]

Handcannon makes quick work of any mage.

[Robert_R]

Handcannon makes quick work of any mage.

True but that's how the combat triangle is designed, range>mage.

[Madouge]

Yes, but Mages can also freeze you. Rangers are entirely dependent on safe spots, at least as it relates to PVM and honestly, that's all I care about.

 

I range without safespots all the time. I use safe spots when I can but if there aren't any, or they're inconvenient to use, I just tank with a bunyip and get by fine.

[howbadisbad]

Handcannon makes quick work of any mage.

 

Assuming the mage has mismic barrage he will kill Any Ranger.

[glasscube]

20-20 20-20 in 2 seconds is big if you are a lvl 60.

Just like the good ol days. :)

 

Lol.

[Guest TensuUesugi]

I think atm the combat triangle is pretty even but there is a lack of crossbows with spec attacks for a reason thats because you can have many specs with one crossbow if you have more than one kind of bolt on you so if they made a dragon crossbow the spec couldnt be to powerful w/o upsetting the triangle. Im not against one though having a spec that fires two bolts at once wouldnt be way over powered.

[fragg]

not even close to being rebalanced. melee still hits wayyyyyy too hard, mage is still underpowered, but still overpowered at the same time. i think once defence gets reworked, and they tweak mage around(mainly f2p) that a d crossbow will be released to help boost range up a bit since it hasnt had a decent update in a long time.

[Saru Inc]

not even close to being rebalanced. melee still hits wayyyyyy too hard, mage is still underpowered, but still overpowered at the same time. i think once defence gets reworked, and they tweak mage around(mainly f2p) that a d crossbow will be released to help boost range up a bit since it hasnt had a decent update in a long time.

 

 

recoloring of d bow. nice research der.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

sarcasm if u kant tell.

[Turnpike]

That would be really cool, but I don't think it would be too fair.

[Guest TensuUesugi]

not even close to being rebalanced. melee still hits wayyyyyy too hard, mage is still underpowered, but still overpowered at the same time. i think once defence gets reworked, and they tweak mage around(mainly f2p) that a d crossbow will be released to help boost range up a bit since it hasnt had a decent update in a long time.

I agree with you reworking defence is probly the answer but the crossbow shouldnt have dmg % increase i think it should fire 2 bolts at once do you think that would be over powered still though? Magic does need tweaked alot for f2p. Since p2p has surge spells would wave spells be to over powered for f2p if they changed that? Just suggestions i want no negetive comments.

[howbadisbad]

not even close to being rebalanced. melee still hits wayyyyyy too hard, mage is still underpowered, but still overpowered at the same time. i think once defence gets reworked, and they tweak mage around(mainly f2p) that a d crossbow will be released to help boost range up a bit since it hasnt had a decent update in a long time.

I agree with you reworking defence is probly the answer but the crossbow shouldnt have dmg % increase i think it should fire 2 bolts at once do you think that would be over powered still though? Magic does need tweaked alot for f2p. Since p2p has surge spells would wave spells be to over powered for f2p if they changed that? Just suggestions i want no negetive comments.

 

Well too bad.

 

Max hit with range is about 45ish with a crossbow and no void. (assuming your not fighting a failure)

Max hit with ags is 86+ claws 80+ dds 92+ whip 50+

Max with mage is like 40 or something (lol cant remember)

 

Melee's whip hits higher and faster and is cheap and protects over common armor.

Range has a slower, weaker weapon that is cheaper (even though rangers protect a dfs or something else over it)

 

Good job, range needs DCB.