How has racism effected you?

[Saru Inc]

[quote name=Saruman44' date='15 March 2010 -

 

10:02 PM' timestamp='1268704960' post='4161007]

Yeh WBC was here lmao. May I ask what city?

Norfolk :P I actually just realized we got the worst place ever. We got PETA, we got Pat Robertson, and that's about it.

 

 

Yea, my friend went to PETA once and put a bunch of rat traps and pro-cruelty to animal fliers on their doorstep, it was funny as [cabbage]. But never stop reppin the 757, s0n.

[fakeitormakeit2]

I hate when people call middle eastern people "abdul" it's grammatically incorrect because it is a prefix and I'm a grammar nazi.

[OldJoe]

I hate when people call middle eastern people "abdul" it's grammatically incorrect because it is a prefix and I'm a grammar nazi.

And i hate it when foreigners call me "f'ing Swede".

The ground for any form of hatered/dislike or even as far as racism, comes from all kinds of people.

[Guest Mrmegakirby]

[quote name=Saruman44' date='15 March 2010 -

 

10:02 PM' timestamp='1268704960' post='4161007]

Yeh WBC was here lmao. May I ask what city?

Norfolk :P I actually just realized we got the worst place ever. We got PETA, we got Pat Robertson, and that's about it.

 

 

Yea, my friend went to PETA once and put a bunch of rat traps and pro-cruelty to animal fliers on their doorstep, it was funny as [cabbage]. But never stop reppin the 757, s0n.

 

I don't see what's so bad with the PETA. Well, I do, but they have the right idea, they just go a bit way extreme.

[stan18]

Well, from personal experience, blacks I meet seem to be treated better by the system, then whites. Most are also more lazy.

 

However, I have a very strong defense against anyone calling me a racist. 2 of my brothers and 1 of my sisters have been adopted from Ethiopia, as well as I have one brother adopted from Bulgaria. Thus, I don't have a "bias", all that i feel is based off experience.

 

And if someone plays the race card, I'd tell them to go to hell. They are the ones spreading racism far more then others.

 

I joke around against and for all races. I tell black jokes, but also white jokes. People are too damn sensitive. In America, you have the right to freedom of speech, not the freedom to not be offended.

 

And to the idiot above me, I say sir, learn you history. I don't think that the Jews killed 6 million people, and I also don't think that Israel is the country threating to blow another country into the sea.

 

Terrorizing the Arabs...You go to public school, correct?

 

I don't know you personally, but your attitude seems very militant, so it seems you put emotions over logic. I say that because I don't agree with what you say and how you reason it out.

 

Experience with a diverse crowd does not make you diverse in experience. I am referring specifically to your siblings. You may have a different set of experiences than others in terms of race because of how you grew up (with your siblings), but what makes you diverse will be how you understand their experiences, not the fact that you had more black people in your life than others. I say that because the experience of growing up for a non-white child is not even remotely close to that of an equivalent white child (if I can say that). They have different expectations of themselves, as well as expectations from others. They have a different motivation to fit in, and more difficulty doing so. If you understood this and felt this, I don't think you'd have the same attitude as you do now.

 

I have to personally ask you how those who notice racism are spreading racism, and more importantly, how you define racism

 

My last point is, personally, the most important one to me. You say, "People are too damn sensitive. In America, you have the right to freedom of speech, not the freedom to not be offended. "

 

I agree that we absolutely need free speech. But you also say we do not have the right to be offended. And I hear this a lot. And I have to say, why is that what you focus on? The *other* person being offended, instead of why that person is offended? Why being offended is not a viable emotion to feel? Why can't you just own up to what you say? Let me put this from my perspective.

 

I am racially asian. The rest of my history is relevant but I will not give more details for fear of blurring my intent. My white friends joke to me and say, "all asians look the same, right, Stan? (or any other stereotype followed by right, stan? as to affirm their statement)" I tell them, "no, I don't think so". That is, literally, all I say. Why so little? Because I've been asked this before, and I know that if I elaborate my disagreement any more, I will be labeled oversensitive. But its not over yet. Because with just that statement, sometimes I get, from the entire group, a mix of: "way to ruin it(the joke)", "you've ruined the mood" or, "dude its just a joke, stop being so sensitive", or any other trend of statements putting the blame on me. I "ruined" the "joke". Did I really? Or was I the joke itself? Not that they were all going to walk away and laugh at me when I'm out of earshot. No, I mean, the joke centered around my response to their stereotype. Its funny when I agree with it, because hey, an asian guy agrees with the stereotype and no one feels bad. But if I don't agree, if I think their joke is stupid, then I'm calling them out, and then I am the only one losing out. Either I give in and make fun of my own race at the expense of perpetuating a stereotype while giving them the resource to tell other asians that they tell the stereotype to that "stan thinks its funny, why can't you be like him", or I disagree, in even the most banal and uncharged way, and I get labeled as the fun-ruiner, the oversensitive guy, the asian who can't laugh at himself. Is it fair to me, to be put in this situation? Is it really an issue of my not having a right to be offended, or is it your right to get called out for being a [puncture] and putting me in a situation like that?

 

The above happens most of the time. Sometimes, though, the response I get after expressing my disagreement is,"but you know we're just kidding, right?", as if they were caught by surprise by my response, having expected me to agree with them. The couple times this happened it happened shortly after I met someone for the first time. They're worried they're going to be labeled racist, and they want to save themselve(s) lest that asian guy tells everyone else how that white kid down the hall told an asian kid he looks like the rest of his continent.

 

Did you just read that last sentence? Tell me, who looks, feels, like the victim? The asian kid, or the white kid shaking in fear of being written up for a bias incident the second day of freshman year in college? To a white kid straight out of a white high school in a white town who has never met a person darker than himself and learns about the bias policy during college orientation and gets told horror stories of ethnic minorities reporting other students for little things like name calling and playing on stereotypes, who will look like the victim? It was probably by accident, right, the asians-look-alike joke? He didn't mean any harm, but now hes on academic probation? If only that asian kid weren't so sensitive!

 

Thats how this fear develops. I have access to all the reported bias incidents reported at my University. Do a lot happen freshman year? Yes. Are they because of first experiences with different people? No, they're about death threats being written on your door's whiteboard, or being given nicknames like "[racist term]y". Is that too oversensitive?

 

The point of my story is that it is absolutely cowardly to call others out on their response because they don't match with what you expect from them. Did my white friends know why I would get offended by their statement? I could tell them, if they asked. It has a very emotional and personal history that spans to kindergarden, when I first started learning english. But do they know that? Do you know other people's full context when they get offended? You don't. Because if you did, you probably wouldn't say it. But its easier to call them out as oversensitive than for you to own up to your words, isn't it?

 

So when people tout their right to free speech, its not actually about free speech at all. Its about people being [wagon] because they want to or they realize they might be labeled one, and defending (if you could even call it that) their actions with free speech while putting the blame on the other.

 

I'm not calling you an [wagon]. But I am going to call you out for your actions. Are people oversensitive, or do you just say that because you would be insensitive otherwise?

[stonewall337]

Well, from personal experience, blacks I meet seem to be treated better by the system, then whites. Most are also more lazy.

 

However, I have a very strong defense against anyone calling me a racist. 2 of my brothers and 1 of my sisters have been adopted from Ethiopia, as well as I have one brother adopted from Bulgaria. Thus, I don't have a "bias", all that i feel is based off experience.

 

And if someone plays the race card, I'd tell them to go to hell. They are the ones spreading racism far more then others.

 

I joke around against and for all races. I tell black jokes, but also white jokes. People are too damn sensitive. In America, you have the right to freedom of speech, not the freedom to not be offended.

 

And to the idiot above me, I say sir, learn you history. I don't think that the Jews killed 6 million people, and I also don't think that Israel is the country threating to blow another country into the sea.

 

Terrorizing the Arabs...You go to public school, correct?

Please keep quiet, do not judge him and say based on his opinion he must have received a public education. You have been poisoned by American media bias. I condemn the PLO as a terrorist group and they constantly unjustly bombard Israel with missiles which puts them in fault. However, I also personally know many innocent Palestinians, some Christian, some Muslim, who were just citizens are were forcibly removed from their houses by israeli soldiers, so please do not speak because the media has told you something and you have no person experience. Israel also forcibly invaded Lebanon, an ally at the time, who was trying to put down Hezbollah, an enemy of Israel, but instead they decided to just bust right in. They wrongly hold Golan Heights from Syria and they held the Sinai Peninsula. I will not even touch the matter of them occupying land they should not be in, and the European Jews treat the Mizrahi Jews poorly, and if any Jew should be in the Holy Lands it should be the Mizrahi because they've actually been living there.

 

And if you would like to challenge me as someone who was educated in a public system, my family has been attending only private institutions as far as we can prove with record (which is my great great grandfather who attended an academy funded by the sultan of the ottoman empire) and I have one-on-one tutors for Arabic, writing composition, drawing, violin, guitar and fencing (and formerly Italian & Aramaic which I've sufficiently learned). I have been profusely educated and I hold the position you scoff at. Besides, I have no doubt there are probably people who have attended public schooling all their lives and they're more intelligent then me because of their great desire to learn.

 

Even a textbook can lie to suit the victor and listening to only what the media feeds you creates racism and bigotry that you aren't even aware of.

Hell, I don't watch mainstream media. How am I biased? You see, you are far worse then my assumption. I have a valid basis for guessing he had a public education both 1.) by what he said and 2.) by the simple fact that MOST people in the US go to public school.

 

Also, lets see. If I remember correctly, land that those countries lost was lost WHEN THEY DAMN DECLARED WAR ON ISRAEL. Seems just to me. You attack a country because your "religion of peace" tells you too, and you lose land, and you are a victim...

 

Religion of peace my [wagon]. I've read the Koran.

 

Lets see why Israel took the Golan heights, shall we?

 

From 1948-67, when Syria controlled the Golan Heights, it used the area as a military stronghold from which its troops randomly sniped at Israeli civilians in the Huleh Valley below, forcing children living on kibbutzim to sleep in bomb shelters. In addition, many roads in northern Israel could be crossed only after probing by mine-detection vehicles. In late 1966, a youth was blown to pieces by a mine while playing football near the Lebanon border. In some cases, attacks were carried out by Yasir Arafat's Fatah, which Syria allowed to operate from its territory.

 

Israel's options for countering the Syrian attacks were constrained by the geography of the Heights. "Counterbattery fires were limited by the lack of observation from the Huleh Valley; air attacks were degraded by well-dug-in Syrian positions with strong overhead cover, and a ground attack against the positions...would require major forces with the attendant risks of heavy casualties and severe political repercussions," U.S. Army Col. (Ret.) Irving Heymont observed.

 

Israel repeatedly, and unsuccessfully, protested the Syrian bombardments to the UN Mixed Armistice Commission, which was charged with policing the cease-fire. For example, Israel went to the UN in October 1966 to demand a halt to the Fatah attacks. The response from Damascus was defiant. "It is not our duty to stop them, but to encourage and strengthen them," the Syrian ambassador responded. Nothing was done to stop Syria's aggression. A mild Security Council resolution expressing "regret" for such incidents was vetoed by the Soviet Union. Meanwhile, Israel was condemned by the UN when it retaliated. "As far as the Security Council was officially concerned," historian Netanel Lorch wrote, "there was an open season for killing Israelis on their own territory."

 

After the Six-Day War began, the Syrian air force attempted to bomb oil refineries in Haifa. While Israel was fighting in the Sinai and West Bank, Syrian artillery bombarded Israeli forces in the eastern Galilee, and armored units fired on villages in the Huleh Valley below the Golan Heights.

 

On June 9, 1967, Israel moved against Syrian forces on the Golan. By late afternoon, June 10, Israel was in complete control of the plateau. Israel's seizure of the strategic heights occurred only after 19 years of provocation from Syria, and after unsuccessful efforts to get the international community to act against the aggressors.

 

Six years later, in a surprise attack on Yom Kippur, the Syrians overran the Golan Heights before being repulsed by Israeli counterattacks. After the war, Syria signed a disengagement agreement that left the Golan in Israel's hands.

[fakeitormakeit2]

Well, from personal experience, blacks I meet seem to be treated better by the system, then whites. Most are also more lazy.

 

However, I have a very strong defense against anyone calling me a racist. 2 of my brothers and 1 of my sisters have been adopted from Ethiopia, as well as I have one brother adopted from Bulgaria. Thus, I don't have a "bias", all that i feel is based off experience.

 

And if someone plays the race card, I'd tell them to go to hell. They are the ones spreading racism far more then others.

 

I joke around against and for all races. I tell black jokes, but also white jokes. People are too damn sensitive. In America, you have the right to freedom of speech, not the freedom to not be offended.

 

And to the idiot above me, I say sir, learn you history. I don't think that the Jews killed 6 million people, and I also don't think that Israel is the country threating to blow another country into the sea.

 

Terrorizing the Arabs...You go to public school, correct?

Please keep quiet, do not judge him and say based on his opinion he must have received a public education. You have been poisoned by American media bias. I condemn the PLO as a terrorist group and they constantly unjustly bombard Israel with missiles which puts them in fault. However, I also personally know many innocent Palestinians, some Christian, some Muslim, who were just citizens are were forcibly removed from their houses by israeli soldiers, so please do not speak because the media has told you something and you have no person experience. Israel also forcibly invaded Lebanon, an ally at the time, who was trying to put down Hezbollah, an enemy of Israel, but instead they decided to just bust right in. They wrongly hold Golan Heights from Syria and they held the Sinai Peninsula. I will not even touch the matter of them occupying land they should not be in, and the European Jews treat the Mizrahi Jews poorly, and if any Jew should be in the Holy Lands it should be the Mizrahi because they've actually been living there.

 

And if you would like to challenge me as someone who was educated in a public system, my family has been attending only private institutions as far as we can prove with record (which is my great great grandfather who attended an academy funded by the sultan of the ottoman empire) and I have one-on-one tutors for Arabic, writing composition, drawing, violin, guitar and fencing (and formerly Italian & Aramaic which I've sufficiently learned). I have been profusely educated and I hold the position you scoff at. Besides, I have no doubt there are probably people who have attended public schooling all their lives and they're more intelligent then me because of their great desire to learn.

 

Even a textbook can lie to suit the victor and listening to only what the media feeds you creates racism and bigotry that you aren't even aware of.

Hell, I don't watch mainstream media. How am I biased? You see, you are far worse then my assumption. I have a valid basis for guessing he had a public education both 1.) by what he said and 2.) by the simple fact that MOST people in the US go to public school.

 

Also, lets see. If I remember correctly, land that those countries lost was lost WHEN THEY DAMN DECLARED WAR ON ISRAEL. Seems just to me. You attack a country because your "religion of peace" tells you too, and you lose land, and you are a victim...

 

Religion of peace my [wagon]. I've read the Koran.

 

Lets see why Israel took the Golan heights, shall we?

 

From 1948-67, when Syria controlled the Golan Heights, it used the area as a military stronghold from which its troops randomly sniped at Israeli civilians in the Huleh Valley below, forcing children living on kibbutzim to sleep in bomb shelters. In addition, many roads in northern Israel could be crossed only after probing by mine-detection vehicles. In late 1966, a youth was blown to pieces by a mine while playing football near the Lebanon border. In some cases, attacks were carried out by Yasir Arafat's Fatah, which Syria allowed to operate from its territory.

 

Israel's options for countering the Syrian attacks were constrained by the geography of the Heights. "Counterbattery fires were limited by the lack of observation from the Huleh Valley; air attacks were degraded by well-dug-in Syrian positions with strong overhead cover, and a ground attack against the positions...would require major forces with the attendant risks of heavy casualties and severe political repercussions," U.S. Army Col. (Ret.) Irving Heymont observed.

 

Israel repeatedly, and unsuccessfully, protested the Syrian bombardments to the UN Mixed Armistice Commission, which was charged with policing the cease-fire. For example, Israel went to the UN in October 1966 to demand a halt to the Fatah attacks. The response from Damascus was defiant. "It is not our duty to stop them, but to encourage and strengthen them," the Syrian ambassador responded. Nothing was done to stop Syria's aggression. A mild Security Council resolution expressing "regret" for such incidents was vetoed by the Soviet Union. Meanwhile, Israel was condemned by the UN when it retaliated. "As far as the Security Council was officially concerned," historian Netanel Lorch wrote, "there was an open season for killing Israelis on their own territory."

 

After the Six-Day War began, the Syrian air force attempted to bomb oil refineries in Haifa. While Israel was fighting in the Sinai and West Bank, Syrian artillery bombarded Israeli forces in the eastern Galilee, and armored units fired on villages in the Huleh Valley below the Golan Heights.

 

On June 9, 1967, Israel moved against Syrian forces on the Golan. By late afternoon, June 10, Israel was in complete control of the plateau. Israel's seizure of the strategic heights occurred only after 19 years of provocation from Syria, and after unsuccessful efforts to get the international community to act against the aggressors.

 

Six years later, in a surprise attack on Yom Kippur, the Syrians overran the Golan Heights before being repulsed by Israeli counterattacks. After the war, Syria signed a disengagement agreement that left the Golan in Israel's hands.

You assumed by what he said he attended public schooling, that is pretty bad. And it is readily available media and American textbooks, etc. that portrays Israel as a valiant defender while they are no more then big budget bullies. I presume you have direct communications with a reliable neutral military source that you do not listen to a mainstream media source?

 

First of all, don't you dare say YOUR religion of peace, because I have no adherence to the Koran. If by your mean one's own, then that's a different story.

 

Second of all I already recognized the PLO which includes pro-Syrian factions committed unjust acts, but just because one party commits wrong doesn't mean you respond with wrong. And just to let you know, when Israel invaded Lebanon they were attacking both the Kataeb (Christian factions, neutral to Israel, fighting Hezbollah) and Hezbollah, Hamas, etc., they made no distinction. This was happening while Lebanon was also being invaded by Syria and being popped like a pimple because they had the Israelis from the South and the Syrians funded by the US from the East. Lebanon was also the only country around Israel that did not send Invasion forces during the 6 Day War and yet Israel along with Syria helped change it from "Le Petite Paris" to rubble that they're still rebuilding.

 

And most of all Zionists have no right to occupy Israel. The Mizrahi Jews who lived there had as much right as the Palestinians who lived there, sure. In fact the Jews and Arabs mixed nicely pre-40s. However, when you throw in a bunch of foreigners, seize land and have foreigners fund these foreigners to take your land, the only option your left with is have everything taken from you or fight. The government of Israel now is comparable to American settlers; they originally befriended the Natives, and then more and more they pressed until they asserted that the Native's land was there land. Is that what you call just? So the countries deserved to lose their land because they waged war with Israel? Did Palestine wage war with Israel before Israel even existed?

 

 

Edit: I also rather enjoy how you copied most of your argument word for word from the first website you found on the matter.

[Giordano]

I love Tip.It, where nothing can be racism. <_<

[The Dark Lord]

I love Tip.It, where nothing can be racism. <_<

 

I don't see your point?

 

We're not arguing that racism doesn't occur; we're just stating the obvious. The majority of the claims of "racism" are either some other form of discrimination (i.e. ethnocentrism -- discrimination based on ethnicity, not race), ignorant claims that people are racist (i.e. Someone criticizes a black man for wearing his trousers around his ankles, and some bystander accuses the person of being racist.), or simple misunderstandings.

 

Racism is defined as the belief that one's race is superior to another person's race. In today's society, people incorrectly use the term to refer to most kinds of discrimination, and it is also just used as a personal attack in order to discredit someone (and usually has no validity).

[Saru Inc]

[quote name=Saruman44' date='15 March 2010 -

 

10:02 PM' timestamp='1268704960' post='4161007]

Yeh WBC was here lmao. May I ask what city?

Norfolk :P I actually just realized we got the worst place ever. We got PETA, we got Pat Robertson, and that's about it.

 

 

Yea, my friend went to PETA once and put a bunch of rat traps and pro-cruelty to animal fliers on their doorstep, it was funny as [cabbage]. But never stop reppin the 757, s0n.

 

I don't see what's so bad with the PETA. Well, I do, but they have the right idea, they just go a bit way extreme.

 

 

Basically, yerp.

[Aliath]

I'm white.

 

See, there's this girl at my school. She's middle-eastern, and I find her to be very beautiful. Now, she's always hanging out with other middle-eastern girls who wear head-scarves, though she wears none herself. This leads me to assume that they're Muslim, and that maybe she is. Now, I'm agnostic, and I honestly don't care what her religious faith is, because I'm not prejudiced. Now, the other day we were in gym and some guys were saying racial slurs against her because she didn't understand the game we were playing (She couldn't hear them, though, or else I would have intervened). I was very angry, but too afraid to say anything in her defense. That's how racism has affected me.

 

There has also been other incidents in the fifth and sixth grade against my friend, who is black.

 

Personally, I've been affected by discrimination, though not racism. I'm not an anglophone, so I get crap from people at school. I live in Quebec.

[EFG]

I am totally a racist. I love racing games.

[The Dark Lord]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35959810/ns/us_news/?GT1=43001

 

 

WASHINGTON TOWNSHIP, N.J. - A 16-year-old boy who police said made an announcement at Walmart ordering all black people in a southern New Jersey store to leave was charged with harassment and bias intimidation, authorities said Saturday.

 

The boy, whose name is not being released because he is a juvenile, grabbed one of the courtesy phones at Walmart's Washington Township store Sunday evening and calmly announced: "Attention, Walmart customers: All black people, leave the store now," police said.

 

The teen was arrested Friday and released to the custody of his parents; police did not know whether he had a lawyer.

 

"This was an extremely disturbing event on many levels," Gloucester County Prosecutor Sean Dalton said at a news conference. "Any statements like these that can cause harm or grave concern must be addressed as quickly we possibly can."

 

Dalton said the case would be handled in juvenile court in neighboring Atlantic County, where the boy lives. He would not say whether the boy has a criminal record, citing the teen's age, and would not disclose the teen's race, saying that did not factor into the investigation.

 

The 16-year-old has been charged with harassment and bias intimidation.

 

Authorities would not say whether the announcement was planned or made impulsively. Police said they were also investigating a teenage boy who accompanied the suspect to the store, but the other boy has not been charged.

 

Officials for Bentonville, Ark.-based Wal-Mart Stores Inc. said the announcement was "unacceptable," and Dalton praised the company for its strong cooperation in the investigation.

 

"We're pleased this matter is resolved," Walmart spokesman David Tovar said in a statement issued after the news conference. "We have updated our intercom system at this store to prevent this from happening again. We again apologize to all of our customers and associates who had to listen to something so offensive."

 

Although a manager quickly went on the intercom system and apologized for the remark, many customers expressed their anger to store management. Some community members said Saturday that they've heard reports of similar incidents happening at the store in recent months that were not reported to police.

 

"We are concerned about that, and we're looking into these incidents. We want to work with the community to make sure these types of incidents don't happen," said Loretta Winters, president of the Gloucester County chapter of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People.

 

Winters said she hopes the boy will get counseling and be educated about sensitivity so he can understand the consequences of his actions.

 

"I'm assuming this person didn't realize how hurtful his comments were," she said.

 

The incident was the latest in a series of problems the retailer has had in its dealings with minorities and women.

 

There have been several past instances of black customers claiming they were treated unfairly at Walmart stores, and the company faced lawsuits alleging that women were passed over in favor of men for pay raises and promotions.

 

In February 2009, the retailer paid $17.5 million to settle a class action lawsuit alleging racial discrimination in its hiring of truck drivers.

 

And the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission sued the company in May 2009, claiming some Hispanic employees at a Sam's Club subsidiary in California were subjected to a hostile work environment. That suit alleges managers failed to stop repeated verbal harassment, including the use of derogatory words, against employees of Mexican descent.

 

However, the NAACP has said the company has worked hard in recent years to show it cares about diversity.

 

Seriously? Are we that damned sensitive? Sure, what he did was mean and uncalled for, but he's a kid, and kids do these sorts of things. Was it really severe enough for him to get arrested and get a criminal record? They're not even telling the full side of the story. Maybe some blacks were mistreating him in some way or another and he reacted to it. Who knows?

 

Also, we already know what race this child is. We can tell by the way the police and everyone else freaked out. :roll:

[Saru Inc]

^^! LOL! Don't get your white sorry, Caucasian panties in a bunch LOL. I shoulda been there, hehe. It just sounds so random, the kid was prolly goofing around. Who says race has anything to do with it (what I mean is, who says he was racist? Maybe he was in line to get something and lots of black ppl were in the line. Maybe he was being sarcastic. who knows.)

[The Dark Lord]

^^! LOL! Don't get your white sorry, Caucasian panties in a bunch LOL. I shoulda been there, hehe. It just sounds so random, the kid was prolly goofing around. Who says race has anything to do with it (what I mean is, who says he was racist? Maybe he was in line to get something and lots of black ppl were in the line. Maybe he was being sarcastic. who knows.)

 

Yeah, that's what I was thinking, hehe. He should have been kicked out or scolded (the former being the worst that could happen and the latter being what at least should have happened) for misusing their intercom system, but I think that it's a tiiiiny biiit of an overreaction to arrest the kid. It reminds me of the South Park episode where the FBI stormed Kyle's(?) house when he was downloading music over the Internet.

 

He could have been goofing around, pissed off, or a variety of other things. When kids do Nazi salutes and start marching around like they're German soldiers, it usually means they're just goofing around, not actual Nazis. A friend could have even dared him to say that over the intercom.

[Saru Inc]

I loved that episode.

[Giordano]

Seriously? Are we that damned sensitive? Sure, what he did was mean and uncalled for, but he's a kid, and kids do these sorts of things. Was it really severe enough for him to get arrested and get a criminal record? They're not even telling the full side of the story. Maybe some blacks were mistreating him in some way or another and he reacted to it. Who knows?

 

Also, we already know what race this child is. We can tell by the way the police and everyone else freaked out. :roll:

No, that [wagon] should get a criminal record. I know those types; he's not really racist but he's an idiot who thinks rudeness is funny. Yeah, y u so cool. :roll:

[The Dark Lord]

Seriously? Are we that damned sensitive? Sure, what he did was mean and uncalled for, but he's a kid, and kids do these sorts of things. Was it really severe enough for him to get arrested and get a criminal record? They're not even telling the full side of the story. Maybe some blacks were mistreating him in some way or another and he reacted to it. Who knows?

 

Also, we already know what race this child is. We can tell by the way the police and everyone else freaked out. :roll:

No, that [wagon] should get a criminal record. I know those types; he's not really racist but he's an idiot who thinks rudeness is funny. Yeah, y u so cool. :roll:

 

Rude people should get a criminal record?

[Giordano]

Seriously? Are we that damned sensitive? Sure, what he did was mean and uncalled for, but he's a kid, and kids do these sorts of things. Was it really severe enough for him to get arrested and get a criminal record? They're not even telling the full side of the story. Maybe some blacks were mistreating him in some way or another and he reacted to it. Who knows?

 

Also, we already know what race this child is. We can tell by the way the police and everyone else freaked out. :roll:

No, that [wagon] should get a criminal record. I know those types; he's not really racist but he's an idiot who thinks rudeness is funny. Yeah, y u so cool. :roll:

 

Rude people should get a criminal record?

To teach him a lesson? Sure why not. You can't go around doing whatever the hell you feel like.

 

And also, are you just taking this stance because if you think otherwise you'll be an anti-racist PC soccermom?

[The Dark Lord]

To teach him a lesson? Sure why not. You can't go around doing whatever the hell you feel like.

 

I'm appalled if you cannot grasp the ridiculousness of your statement.

 

Likewise, you are trying to argue that I am a racist. You have not read and understood anything that I have said. Are you just too simple-minded and unable to comprehend simple concepts, or are you just going out of your way to piss people off?

[Giordano]

To teach him a lesson? Sure why not. You can't go around doing whatever the hell you feel like.

 

I'm appalled if you cannot grasp the ridiculousness of your statement.

Don't get sidetracked with everyone else now, we're talking about THIS ONE KID at the Walmart. And how is it ridiculous?

[The Dark Lord]

To teach him a lesson? Sure why not. You can't go around doing whatever the hell you feel like.

 

I'm appalled if you cannot grasp the ridiculousness of your statement.

Don't get sidetracked with everyone else now, we're talking about THIS ONE KID at the Walmart. And how is it ridiculous?

 

It's ridiculous because you think that every rude person in the world should be arrested and charged with a crime.

[Giordano]

To teach him a lesson? Sure why not. You can't go around doing whatever the hell you feel like.

 

I'm appalled if you cannot grasp the ridiculousness of your statement.

Don't get sidetracked with everyone else now, we're talking about THIS ONE KID at the Walmart. And how is it ridiculous?

 

It's ridiculous because you think that every rude person in the world should be arrested and charged with a crime.

Oh hahaha, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE KID. Each case is individual, not subjected to a whole.

[Saru Inc]

Umm no offence to both sides, but y'all are overreacting. The kid should get scolded. Thats it, haha. And if you think its rude, then you really need to loosed up, to be honest.

[Giordano]

Fine, not "rude". A joke in a (horribly) bad taste. Is that better? :roll:

 

*EDIT* And don't think I want this kid to spend years in jail over this. NO, just some sort of punishment to make him think otherwise in the future. Stop over-reacting to what little I say.