a_bert Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 Oh man, I don't want to spam but I spat out my squash reading that. Really Icu. :P 'Tis I, 'tis Vindice, 'tis I! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icuownage Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 Mehhhhhh, we can all have our moments. Anywho, can this actually get locked now, we'll see who is dumb in the medieval hegemony ;). It's a REALLY big shaft.I didn't catch fire, I used the can of hairspray as a flamethrower and pointed it at my arm.how are you going to ignore my posts when I'm offering to let you live as my vassal in two weeks time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icuownage Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 Haha, peasents are also a bad choice. It's a REALLY big shaft.I didn't catch fire, I used the can of hairspray as a flamethrower and pointed it at my arm.how are you going to ignore my posts when I'm offering to let you live as my vassal in two weeks time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iconic Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 Wow, that music on the front page is really annoying; I need to manually turn it off. And what more, the music is [cabbage].Shouldn't we move this to 'ye old hegemony' if we are discussing it here. [Falador tavern] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retech Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 Crossbowmen are good especially against knights, and in city defence. Charging them forward in the attack can only probaly give you a 1:1 ratio at the best. Master of your domain? I am Lord of the manor, Queen of the castle, King of the county! Former moderator of the original DungeoneeringFormer moderator of Ye Olde HegemonyModerator of the remake of DungeoneeringFormer Empress of the Lichten Empire (Hegemony)Former President of the United States (Hegemony)Former Emporer of Imperial Japan (Hegemony)Czarina Catherine of Imperial Russia (Hegemony The only difference between a disagreement between friends, an argument between strangers, and a feud between enemies is the ability to reconcile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icuownage Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 Knights are free, and as my nation is a feudal governemnt, the houses getting extra power just makes me more powerful. And not really, you had a huge casuality list, when I had only 4,000 losses, which probably cost me around that million, and those units were basic trained. It was actually quite lucky your peasents didn't give up. It's a REALLY big shaft.I didn't catch fire, I used the can of hairspray as a flamethrower and pointed it at my arm.how are you going to ignore my posts when I'm offering to let you live as my vassal in two weeks time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iconic Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 Please post in this thread when your talking off topic, this isn't the place to discuss another thread in the forum. [Falador tavern] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icuownage Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 Shush Edel, this thread is dead, we're waiting for someone to lock it, so it doesn't matter. Meh, I guess if it works it works. It's a REALLY big shaft.I didn't catch fire, I used the can of hairspray as a flamethrower and pointed it at my arm.how are you going to ignore my posts when I'm offering to let you live as my vassal in two weeks time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim_ Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 Shush Edel, this thread is dead, we're waiting for someone to lock it, so it doesn't matter. Meh, I guess if it works it works.You know what peasants are good for? Breaking cavalry charges and being trap monkeys. Aside from that.... I guess you could zerg rush with 'em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icuownage Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 Peasents would be HORRIBLE for breaking up calvalry. They have zero military training, and generally fear a group of horses charging at them at high speeds, they'd either run or shakely stand their ground, they'd get massacred by the calvalry who would just charge straight through them, as they don't know how to guard either. What they're good for is a large defense you can use, you could also put them on top of your walls and get them to drop and chuck stuff at the enemy I guess. They also serve great at keeping people busy as you flank them. It's a REALLY big shaft.I didn't catch fire, I used the can of hairspray as a flamethrower and pointed it at my arm.how are you going to ignore my posts when I'm offering to let you live as my vassal in two weeks time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim_ Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 Peasents would be HORRIBLE for breaking up calvalry. They have zero military training, and generally fear a group of horses charging at them at high speeds, they'd either run or shakely stand their ground, they'd get massacred by the calvalry who would just charge straight through them, as they don't know how to guard either. What they're good for is a large defense you can use, you could also put them on top of your walls and get them to drop and chuck stuff at the enemy I guess. They also serve great at keeping people busy as you flank them.You keep them slightly away from your army. Then they act like meat shields to slow the cavalry charge down enough that it is not as devastating. While the cavalry charge is slowed down you can pump arrows into the knights as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icuownage Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 If it comes to that, I'll help out. It's a REALLY big shaft.I didn't catch fire, I used the can of hairspray as a flamethrower and pointed it at my arm.how are you going to ignore my posts when I'm offering to let you live as my vassal in two weeks time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphi Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 Pikemen are designed to stop cavalry... Seriously, that is literally the only thing they had in mind when they armed people with 10 foot long poleaxes. You point them forward to stop a cavalry charge. I have some tactics of my own to stop a cavalry charge, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icuownage Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 Other things that come to mind would be scaring the horses, distraction and siege weaponry (ballistae) longbowmen crossbowmen and other calvalry It's a REALLY big shaft.I didn't catch fire, I used the can of hairspray as a flamethrower and pointed it at my arm.how are you going to ignore my posts when I'm offering to let you live as my vassal in two weeks time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphi Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 Warhorses were trained not to be scared of spears or loud noises, and they had some plates to the side of their eyes so they could only see forwards, I believe, so no distractions from the side... I guess fire could do the trick though. Seige weaponry would pretty much suck against cavalry. Other cavalry was often used, yes, and crossbowmen are pretty much a staple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icuownage Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 Ballistae would be alright against calvalry, would insta kill what it hit and send them flying into a person behind, It's a REALLY big shaft.I didn't catch fire, I used the can of hairspray as a flamethrower and pointed it at my arm.how are you going to ignore my posts when I'm offering to let you live as my vassal in two weeks time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphi Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 Aiming them would be absurdly difficult, since cavalry are generally used on flat, plain like terrain, and ballistae need to be fired in an arc in that situation. It just isn't worth it, in my eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icuownage Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 Calalry work best going down hill, complete massacre of anything except pikeman really, but even they get hurt quite a bit from it, even if they stab the horse or rider, it is still coming their way. It's a REALLY big shaft.I didn't catch fire, I used the can of hairspray as a flamethrower and pointed it at my arm.how are you going to ignore my posts when I'm offering to let you live as my vassal in two weeks time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Mather1 Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 Try scopions, they're a sort of in between balistae and c'bows. Twitter: @TheMather1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 Calalry work best going down hill, complete massacre of anything except pikeman really, but even they get hurt quite a bit from it, even if they stab the horse or rider, it is still coming their way.Worst. Tactician. Ever. -- And to the numbskulls trying to say that ballistae are an effective anti-cavalry weapon: They're slow as [cabbage] and fire a single gigantic bolt. So, you kill one or two horsemen every 1-2 minutes. Not effective at all. Vienna Raszyn Warsaw Klushino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icuownage Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 How? I didn't actually say delibretely send calvalry at pikemen, I just said that a down hill charge is better than flat, as they pick up momentum Obviously I wouldn't use calvalry on pikemen, but it was just an example.. Also I love how I'm the worst tactician, and yet I have suffered the least casualities compared to my kills out of both you and Rocco. It's a REALLY big shaft.I didn't catch fire, I used the can of hairspray as a flamethrower and pointed it at my arm.how are you going to ignore my posts when I'm offering to let you live as my vassal in two weeks time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 No, cavalry charging downhills breaks the horses legs and causes all kinds of mess. There's a reason open plains are always written as a horseman's dream. Oh yes, because battlefield casualties determined arbitrarily by a moderator are an accurate depiction of people's tactical abilities. That and the fact that we have used more troops than you, hence more casualties. Derp. Vienna Raszyn Warsaw Klushino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icuownage Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 Really? I used 15,000 EDIT, 12,000, I forgot some of the pre planned troops weren't actually used, nor trained. And I don't think Retech would go into so much details about the leg breaking, if he does then it's a lesson learned by me. Also terrain isn't used to much in my tactics, I just look at the terrain map and just think the entire area looks like that. (Sounds more stupid than it is) And fine, have it your way. It's a REALLY big shaft.I didn't catch fire, I used the can of hairspray as a flamethrower and pointed it at my arm.how are you going to ignore my posts when I'm offering to let you live as my vassal in two weeks time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 Fine, then tell me all the things wrong in this scene from a military standpoint: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpwsKRpKS_M Vienna Raszyn Warsaw Klushino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icuownage Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 Uhh, firstly Horses inside of a keep... The [bleep]? I think horses travel down some stairs, which is weird Horses travel in single line while surrounded on all sides, should of lead to their massacre, as they weren't exactly going fast enough to needle through The bridge scene, it started out fine until the bodies started to pile up ON the bridge, the horses should of tripped. Gandelf charges pikemen. I can actually see where you're coming from now, about the charging pikemen, but I guess I should use better examples, but it is common sense that a horse picks up momentum, and gravity helps a lot with that, and troops find it harder to fight up hill. It's a REALLY big shaft.I didn't catch fire, I used the can of hairspray as a flamethrower and pointed it at my arm.how are you going to ignore my posts when I'm offering to let you live as my vassal in two weeks time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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