Delta V

[The_Mather1]

Grim, it is too small to be properly crushed by something else than a projectile.

 

Lol and my race can be killed by stepping on them, it doesn't matter; I'm tactically better than Mather.

 

Also, Mather's race litterally can't touch my race without his race falling to bits lol.

Why? Your race dismantles nanobots, my race is made out of nanites, they're like nanobots except they are one part and look (and behave) like cells. If anything then the replicator would loose whatever limb touched you but the loose nanites could mess up your physique or take control of you.

[Iconic]

You would loose your limb, yes but taking control of me would be impossible due to the same reason you loose your limbs, if you try to move forward you just fall out, and now you have a load of un-coardinated and ungripping nanites, unless you used a weapon me just throwing my people at you could kill you.

[The_Mather1]

The nanites are all but un-coordinated, they each contain a mind only over-ruled by that of their collective form, and they each have a conection to the replicators' knowledge base.

Think of it like this; a single nanite has a mind and is able to survive on its own or in a host, several nanites have a collective mind and are able to take control of and kill a host, enough nanites have a collective mind and may form a full replicator, all replicators are connected to a sort of database containing their collective knowledge as well as updating their base code to change their goals, commands and behavior.

 

Mather, despite the fact that your race as you've described it is impossible (you say they are living cells that have no moving parts whatsoever, but are also able to "eat" stuff), a bullet is going to destroy a tiny chunk of metal regardless of how tiny it is. At the very least it would push the nanites it hit out of their position, and in the case of a high caliber rifle like an M95, the shockwave from the bullet would either crush them or move them as well, basically blasting a 6" hole in the form.

A bullet would destroy the nanites it came in contact with, no more, no less, shockwaves do not form.

[Iconic]

The nanites are all but un-coordinated, they each contain a mind only over-ruled by that of their collective form, and they each have a conection to the replicators' knowledge base.

Think of it like this; a single nanite has a mind and is able to survive on its own or in a host, several nanites have a collective mind and are able to take control of and kill a host, enough nanites have a collective mind and may form a full replicator, all replicators are connected to a sort of database containing their collective knowledge as well as updating their base code to change their goals, commands and behavior.

Regardless of that if they attack the zygons they will fall to pieces and if they try to control me they will slip out of me, its a win-win for me.

[The_Mather1]

You must have some bodily fluids, the nanites would just slip into it and flow around, replicating until it can take controll of all bodily functions, including vital organs.

 

Rocco, nanite ~ metal bacteria, replicator ~ android. And they prefer to stay away from enemies (shooting instead), they only probe to read minds or torture.

[Iconic]

Funny thing is I don't, and even if I did you would just slip off them, I have a brain and nerves, the brain is powered by protein delivered by microscopic tubes, but with the slippyness it would take an act of masterpiece for you to stay in the same place for more than a couple of seconds, and if the zygon truly does become engulfed it will eject its brain and find and produce some more slime.

[The_Mather1]

Rocco, superconductive and ferrometalic. :thumbsup:

 

Edel, it is neutrally bouyant, and it is not supposed to stay still but just float around, it is so small that the density does not matter, why do you think our iron isn't all in our feet?

[Iconic]

Which means that it would just slip through the zygons.

[Nexaduro]

The nanites are all but un-coordinated, they each contain a mind only over-ruled by that of their collective form, and they each have a conection to the replicators' knowledge base.

Think of it like this; a single nanite has a mind and is able to survive on its own or in a host, several nanites have a collective mind and are able to take control of and kill a host, enough nanites have a collective mind and may form a full replicator, all replicators are connected to a sort of database containing their collective knowledge as well as updating their base code to change their goals, commands and behavior.

 

Mather, despite the fact that your race as you've described it is impossible (you say they are living cells that have no moving parts whatsoever, but are also able to "eat" stuff), a bullet is going to destroy a tiny chunk of metal regardless of how tiny it is. At the very least it would push the nanites it hit out of their position, and in the case of a high caliber rifle like an M95, the shockwave from the bullet would either crush them or move them as well, basically blasting a 6" hole in the form.

A bullet would destroy the nanites it came in contact with, no more, no less, shockwaves do not form.

What "host?" I do not recall that being specified when you mentioned the advantages and disadvantages of Replicators. Also, you did not answer the question of how they "eat."

[The_Mather1]

They are not "alive" alive, they are nanoelectric cells that are artificially produced by eachother and each have a fully developed AI.

 

Nex, they can live inside other creatures in order to survive and E=MC₂.

[The_Mather1]

How do they produce each other without having any moving parts?

Artificial mitosis.

[The_Mather1]

They use any material, and if you won't accept that then they can also extract it from that base mineral that is everywhere and made up of everything.

Any more questions look here: http://stargate.wikia.com/wiki/Asurans

-History and technology not included in the game.

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Advantages:

[quoe]Largely temperature resistant[quot]

 

Check

 

[quoe]Does not breath (Atmosphere doesn't matter)[quot]

Check, though this means you don't get the oxygen bonus...and since Flourine will bind with most anything you will still need to build domes on those planets.

 

[quoe]

Metal bodied (Harder to kill)

[quoe]

Check

 

[quoe]

Lower moral effects (They weren't created, so were never given anything resembling emotion. I guess it developed to a limited extent, but not much)

[quoe]

Since they naturally evolved they have laws rather than emotions...but work in roughly the same way...IF X THEN Y UNLESS Z...ect.

 

[quoe]Purely logic abiding (Efficiency increase I suppose)[quoe]

Research penalty for lack of imagination.

 

[quoe]

Semi-Hivemind (A few AIs, but each one controls a lot of individuals as an extension of themselves. I guess each AI would be allocated it's own settlement)

[quoe]

Ok...

 

[quoe]Technologically advanced (Better at learning to use technology and any effects which come with that)[quoe]

Ok, if you see a weapon or tech in action(unless it defys the laws of physics) you get a bonus in reseaeching it.

 

[quoe]

Disease resistant (Mechanical body)

[quoe]

Check.

 

Disadvantages:

[quoe]Higher average colonisation costs (As stated above)[quoe]

Check

 

[quoe]

Semi-Hivemind (If one AI rebels, the entire settlement does.)[quoe]

Hmmm, I would say concenus rules...Sort of like pure democracy, everything is checked with all the AIs in a settlement and then a decision is reached.

 

[quoe]

Lower moral effects (No glorious war speeches rallying troops to victory)

[quoe]

Check

 

[quoe]

EMP vulnerability

[quoe]

Check

 

[quoe]

New settlements need a new AI[quoe]

Extra building needed, check.

 

[quoe]

When he means troop strength, is that how effective troops are or how muscular they are? Like would it matter for a psionic race? [quoe]

Higher gravity = more muscle and faster metabolism...So they are mildly more efficent all round.

 

[quot]Mine don't count as mechanical right? Since each nanite does neither contain heating or moving parts.[/quoe]

Nanites generally aren't effected by heat, unless it melts them.

And nanites have multiple moving parts....

 

[quoe]

But streptococci don't interact with each other (as far as I can tell), but your nanothings do.

 

Also streptococci still have all the basic organelles, which means they do in fact have moving parts.

 

And as Ross mentioned, they still need to respire and would require fuel.

[quot]

OMG! Rocco and Science!

Hehe, but yeah, Nanites compared to blood cells:

 

They basically eat everything, they use any available substance to replicate, so I guess they either consume some of it or they use "waste" energy from their surroundings (possibly why they shut down in empty space).

Check

 

Can you affect them Psionically?

Yup.

 

My humans are now able to breathe underwater and in high altitudes, immune to energy and ballistic weapons, and can kill people by reaching inside of them.

Genetically Modifed humans account for the first two...Other three are a no.

 

Oh Archi, there was something you might have missed. Since they're plants with no vital organs except the brain, they should have high resistance to ballistics (being riddled with bullets is probaly less damaging for a plant than a human) and low resistance to energy weapons? So if we use 5 as average resistance on a scale from 0-10, the Lichten "slightly increased resistance" would be a 6, with ballistic weapons as 8 and energy weapons as 4? (Arbitrary numbers, but it helps explain)

As with humans, it depends where you shoot them.

You shoot them in their hydraulic leg sacs then they are immobile...

 

 

Grim, it is too small to be properly crushed by something else than a projectile.

Crushing is crushing.

 

Think of it like this; a single nanite has a mind and is able to survive on its own or in a host, several nanites have a collective mind and are able to take control of and kill a host, enough nanites have a collective mind and may form a full replicator, all replicators are connected to a sort of database containing their collective knowledge as well as updating their base code to change their goals, commands and behavior.

A nanite is a tiny robot.

If they think they have processors.

If they eat they have graspers/manipulators.

If they communicate they have transmitters.

 

 

Rocco, superconductive and ferrometalic

Except for the fact that you don't have the resources to do that(probably)

 

Nex, they can live inside other creatures in order to survive and E=MC2.

Yes to the first bit.

No to the ability to change matter into energy at will...

 

 

Where do they find this specific metal that all nanites are made of?

Nail on the head.

[Seraphi]

Righto Archi.

 

Why the code, though?

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New rules stop you using more than a ridiculously small number of quotes....

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Anything which has a high enough velocity or high enough mass will destroy a nanite made of a weak enough material...

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Pretty much.

 

Say you had a Uranium Nanite land on a big lump of Iron...It could make Iron copies of itself to its heart's content, but it couldn't make uranium copies of itself unless it had a supply of uranium.

[The_Mather1]

Those components (with the exeption of graspers) are parts of the actual insides of the nanites, physically included in the nanoelectric circuits.

It was just an attempt to explain a way they fueled themselves, i have no idea how they do, only that they do.

[Grim_]

Well then it looks like this problem like all others can be solved with MORE DAKKA! (Seriously though a storm of lead would rip the [cabbage] out of the nanites not even counting what crushing melee weapons would do to them [and then possibly EMPS])

[Nexaduro]

Things with no moving parts have moving parts? :blink:

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Requesting a full write up of Mather's race (by that I mean advantages and disadvantages) because I'm clearly not understanding.

Seconded.

[Grim_]

Requesting a full write up of Mather's race (by that I mean advantages and disadvantages) because I'm clearly not understanding.

Seconded.

Thirded.

[Nexaduro]

Requesting a full write up of Mather's race (by that I mean advantages and disadvantages) because I'm clearly not understanding.

Seconded.

Thirded.

Fourthed!

[Iconic]

Fifthed!!!

 

 

Name: Zygons

Description: The actual zygon is a brain in a shell.

[hide]?2cm? Zygon with slime is roughly size of fist.

[/hide]

Within the shell is the brain of the zygon, the shell cannot move at all its just a brain in a shell, on its own it pretty much can't do anything, on its own it basically sits there and thinks. Although the brain is extremly small it is extremly powerful and a lot more powerful than humans, infact it is hundreds of times more powerful than than the human brain and has roughly the equivelant processing power of fifty Earthen supercomputers (so maths and logical thought and memory is extremly powerful). Creative thought is impossible to measure but it is a huge time more powerful than the human creative complex.

Due to the evolution of the Zygon it is very effective at tactics, complex puzzles, and mimicry (due to being able to remember every aspect of a persons mannerisms). All zygons have eidatic memory, absoloute pitch and a number of other intellgent things.

The outer shell of the zygon is on average 1.2 cm thick and works as a natural psionic-damper.

 

The zygon brain secretes an extremly oily slime from, it is so oily that on a scale of oilyness from one to ten it would be twelve. The transparent slime seeps through small holes in the shell and creates a body for the zygon.

If you look closely you can see the brain.

As the brain secretes slime it also releases a couple of other things suh as nerves and tubes.

Green - The actual slime

Blue - Nerves (can tense and relax and send electrical signals through the slime basically making the slime the zygons muscle)

Purple - Slippyness and oilyness, I didn't know how to convey it.

Red - Small microscopic tubes which can suck protein out of anything that the zygon eats.

 

Zygons usually eat small rodents, they will probably take a dead mouse and suck it dry, leaving the fat and bones and collecting all the nutrients; especially protien which is the only required one, the rest are just a bonus. You will probably see Zygons with mice or other animals floating around in their slime, these are expelled later on.

 

P.S

Slime can be tensed as hard as rubber.

Life span twenty years.

Tensing of slime in a line succession can push items out at extremly fast speeds like an arrow.

Tensing allows jumping .5 metres in the air.

Brain can be ejected.

Slime and nerves regrow.

Birth is done by growing another brain assexually which is than ejected out and left to grow new slime.

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In short, a shell that secretes a slime which they can control if connected to the slime, extremly intellegent, extremly weak, senses using vibration

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If your wondering what would happen if two were put on top of each other, the answer is that they would merge but could be pulled apart due to meat tubes and nerves connecting them.

Advantages

 

Genius

ten percent of normal cost and times of research.

better tactics.

good at learning languages and stuff.

better theory of objects and can therfore reverse engineer things that can not usually be reverse engineered.

 

ejection

brain can be ejected if in imminent danger, Archi please PM me I have some stuff to tell you about this.

 

oilyness

Weapons that don't hurt the brain will just slip through, nanobots will just slide through and if connected as an nanite they will all fall apart.

 

psionics

No psionics can touch there brain.

 

Disadvantages

Weak

peforms badly in wars

killed easily

 

slow

takes longer to get to places.

 

liquid composition

freezes, melts easily.

 

small stature

Can't reach things.

 

Can anyone who thinks of anymore advantages or disadvantages please tell me in this thread.

[Retech]

Zey look funny. :)

 

 

Did you draw the picture?