Delta V

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To be honest, I think copying should be banned.

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Banning stuff is not gonna happen.

Mather can copy stuff from StarGate, but the stuff will obey more realistic rules than found on StarGate.

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Its just not fun, you have to agree with me on that one; no-one wants to play with stargate, otherwise I might aswell call my race the Dranei warlocks.

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Pshhhht, no one wants to play with virus bombs, laser death rays and complexy sciency stuff, they are all involved though.

 

Mather has used Stargate tech in EVERY Hegemony game where it was mildly allowed. If I ban it then he will research it in various ways and it will keep coming back and people will keep whining(Which is far more annoying than Mather using Stargate tech :angry: ).

 

Thus the tech is allowed within certain parameters.

 

 

 

 

Added to that you have Hex's Legacy:

Banning means he or someone else can complain to an admin and the admin freak out, shut the thread down or tell me I have

to allow it because otherwise it is barbaric and other various terms which show shortsightedness on their behalf.

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IMHO, the admins should stop worrying about defending the troublemaker and instead turn to things like "The Last One to Post Wins!" which has to be the most disturbing thread on the entire forum. :blink:

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People want to hurt other people with Laser bombs, planet busters and laser death rays, they just don't want to be a victim of them. Its not like there is anything that they could be replaced with.

 

I am happy with Mather using a couple but its not that; he's trying to live as a stargater. His technologys are all stargate, his race is stargate, his plans are stargate: everything is stargate and it just doesn't appeal to everyone!

 

Banning a person because you dislike them and using the guise of them ruining the game for others (by attacking other players) is completly barbaric, I've heard you turn your nose up at the admins a couple of times in my short time here and to be honest its just unpleasent.

Hex was banned because he attacked another player, I've read the latest hegemony thread and this is the reason given, other reasons were given after he was banned but they seemed to all be excuses; he was said to be banned for ruining the game for other players (by attacking them) which makes no sense at all because the game is about warfare so my conclusion is that you don't like him and neither do some other people, therfore he was banned.

The hegemony thread died way after Hex's expulsion, therfore you couldn't have had to close down the thread because of it. Whatever the admins did I believe it is justified. The admins are doing there job by stopping what they could percieve as bullying and therfore they are doing there job extremly well. I'm respectfully asking you to stop turning your nose up at the admins descision, even if you have an opinion you are constantly reffering to it as if the admins had acted wrong "Freak out"; people have different opinions; that doesn't mean that when I have a different opinion to you I'm "acting stupid".

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As an outsider, what I saw was Hex trying to kick out a player before the game got going at a point when no one had a military, even him, and later he didn't listen to the mod and essentially went AFK during a war. Correct me if I'm wrong?

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Hey Edel, guess what? Your opinion is irrelevant, the mod has spoken.

I just agreed with a higher power the admin, its like telling me that the duke has spoken when the king has overided the dukes words.

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Except that the king hasn't overridden the dukes words at all. This argument is about mather being allowed SG tech, if you can please bring me an admin who points out a rule against SG tech then I will oblige you.

I thought you were talking about my opinion on Hex's banning.

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Edel, agreeing with the admin does nothing if they're completely unrelated to the current situation. I believe Rocco was referring to Delta V.

 

EDIT: Ninja'd.

 

But seriously, about the Hegemony thing? I never actually understood what happened there.

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Your opinion doesn't matter in that case either.

Neither does anyones opinion on what happened in the past, its irrelevant; Archi had an opinion and I was countering his opinion which I believed wrong: usually this is called debating, arguing or 'discussion'.

 

Why are you being argumentative?

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Because, he's Rocco. A bit more of him is generating flames every day, he's better at catching fire than Mather.

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1. Hex attacked / threatened (the records are unclear on this matter) Ross before anyone even had an army.

2. We all invaded Hex, and sent the battle report to Archi.

3. (here's the part that got him banned) He stopped posting and basically ignored all requests for a battle plan from him, since he knew he would get owned and was trying to buy time to get nukes.

4. We voted and he got banned.

5. Admins came in and QQ'd when they barely understood the situation at all.

1. Its a combat game, its allowed.

2. Its a combat game, its allowed.

3. Apparently there was some discrepancy in the time limit Archi had given, two days meaning 1 day with the limit ending on the second day or actually 2 days with the time limit ending at two.

4. He attacked someone, you banned him.

5. Not sure about that at all.

 

Rocco, I have my opinion, you have yours; I am a little annoyed by the way your acting like the admins are wrong and how you banned him but I don't have as much experience as you. Either way whatever you or I say isn't going to change anything. I sense that we will never agree with each other therefore this is just creating bad feelings between us.

I think it was bad but it can't be changed now so there is no point of arguing.

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Okay, let's think of it in a slightly more abstract way.

 

Ten friends get together to play some football. One of the friends decides that he should slide tackle everyone he can and injure 2 or 3 people so they wont be a threat to him in the game.

 

Is it fair that the other friends should want him to stop playing? I'd say yes, but I'm also willing to bet that a lot of people think differently.

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Meh. He annoyed us, we annoyed him. He called the admins on us, they annoyed us too. All he had to do was present a reasonable argument as to why he should stay when he was making the players unhappy, and there wouldn't have been a problem. Did he do that?

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Okay, let's think of it in a slightly more abstract way.

 

Ten friends get together to play some football. One of the friends decides that he should slide tackle everyone he can and injure 2 or 3 people so they wont be a threat to him in the game.

 

Is it fair that the other friends should want him to stop playing? I'd say yes, but I'm also willing to bet that a lot of people think differently.

 

Its more like a load of friends who all decide they want to have a brawl, one person injures two people, he is justified because they are brawling.

 

Also Hex was kicked out of hegemony v2.

Did Hex play v1? I just see him ask if he can play; no-one replies and than he appears a couple of pages later complaining about something.

 

Rocco, number 3 is an opinion and not a fact so it doesn't matter.

 

 

Getting back to Delta V, do we make our own advantages or disadvantages?

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Getting back to Delta V, do we make our own advantages or disadvantages?

 

A bit ago, Archi made them but people have been making there own.

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Edel, did you read all of Hegemony or something? All the hegemonies...

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Edel Hex played for a bit (he would have been ripped to shreds if dusty had not protected him) you are probably missing posts from the forum transfering gap. (On a completely un related note I have edited in a bit more friendly set up for my post in Dungeons and dragons [should I create a new thread?]).

On topic: As for delta V who do you think has the best chance of surviving race wise (and race adaptation towards playing style)

 

EDIT: Edel you give yourself a large set of overpowered advantages and underpowered disadvantages and archi balances it out (general idea)

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Yeh Dooms, it sounds like a big task but I just did a little bit every night before joining, and Hex never played he just talked a bit and requested joining the second thread.

 

Grim, I will read it but I can't comment because its 3:00!

I like what you said about peoples playstyles, a person with an aggresive race will play bettter if they play agressivelly. I haven't really worked out my playstyle yet but I think my intellegent but weak race will give me some time to work out what playstyle I am.

 

I think Ross has the most likelyness of surviving in this game, he has a really balanced race that would fit to him, he will probably get a pretty large empire.

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Waste of time too, you probably noticed that Hegemony is 85% arguments :P

Yes it is!

But it was a lot more minimal in the first hegemony in comparison to Archi's Hegemony and Hegemony V2; they were arguefests.

 

Hex isn't in the hegemony thread at all, has his posts been removed for some reason?

 

A lot of players like Walka and That guy from FG and Racheya and Blackdawn don't play here anymore.

 

 

You really had something going there, all these other hegemony things you've tried to do (with the exception of Dungeoneering, Manifest Destiny and This (this looks great)) seem to be just pale imitations of the perfect first one, I think the problem is that now that we know a limitless experience we will never be able to go back to the original hegemony unless tight rules are in place. I wish I'd have managed to find out about this forum earlier so I could've played the original, you can notice people enjoying things but nowadays I just notice "Next update? oh... yeh, I mobolise my army" instead of an indepth description of there creations.

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In the first one we were caught in the false delusion that there was something to do other than kill each other, which there isn't.

 

I'm going to do a full write up of my race.

You can do lots of other things.

 

I have an idea.......

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Yes, but the only way to win is to kill the opponents.

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• Then you should just add other ways to win, what about having a place in the center of the map (holy lands) that once owned for one hundred years you win (or to keep the game going you get loads of money)
  
• What about first person to get to a certain planet.
  
• Conquering thirty countrys.
  

 

I suppose your right but within the game there is lots you can do, infact fatortoise let you make up your own things it seems, you would probably be able to add things as you go.

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Yes, but the only way to win is to kill the opponents.

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• Then you should just add other ways to win, what about having a place in the center of the map (holy lands) that once owned for one hundred years you win (or to keep the game going you get loads of money)
  
• What about first person to get to a certain planet.
  
• Conquering thirty countrys.
  

 

I suppose your right but within the game there is lots you can do, infact fatortoise let you make up your own things it seems, you would probably be able to add things as you go.

The first one would just be a giant war, the second one would be pointless, and people arguing over whose semi made up tech is better, third would be a giant war.

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I haven't been paying attention to the thread, anyone wanna summarize what's happening with stuff?