Delta V

[Iconic]

Ahhh what ever, I'm just going to be holding grudges, and who ever is human hegemony, they have the worst disadvantage of all.

 

Sector Limited- Can not leave their sector.

I'm pretty sure that the "Long dead" disadvantage is worse...

Meh, if you die you die. Its not that bad.

 

Icu, by what you explained it can't be realistic because you would need to teleport electrical charges to the brain from thousands of miles away continuously.

[Seraphi]

You guys have made a big enough deal about this yet?

 

You have voiced your complaints (In an extremely loud, long and drawn out fashion) and Archi has heard them.

 

ARCHI CAN DO THIS. LET HIM HANDLE IT.

[Icuownage]

Still hate how my race and tech has to be nerfed cause I decided to specialise..

[The_Mather1]

Lets just do it like this, we who feel like Icu should be able to keep it as it was voice our opinion and then let Archi decide wether to proceed with his current action by listening to two people who complain because everyone made races and techs that actually are of any use or to listen to those who feel that Icu's stuff is balanced and let him keep it.

 

I think Icu's stuff is perfectly balanced.

 

And below you can read one of the world's most incorrect acusations and a perfect example of incoherent logic.

[Nexaduro]

Hrm, is tech that allows me to create a massive swarm of controllabe flying pointed boulders with lazers/missiles/explosive interiors and warp developments into another sector OP?

Not in my opinion, of course it would probably take a long time and a lot of research and it would be easily defendable from.

 

And its detectable, realistic (providing manipulation of gravity), limited and doesn't proxy control your race in a couple of seconds.

 

Mather, we can talk about whatever we like and complain about whatever we like, if there is a problem it needs to be fixed.

 

I don't think anyone is playing as human hegemony, its just a lore thing.

Theoretically, it's easy to defend against.

Theoretically, it's detectable.

Theoretically, it's limited.

Theoretically, it doesn't proxy control your race in a couple of seconds.

 

They're basically more intricate, adaptable and useful versions of Mather's drones. And more realistic as well, because they will run out due to the fact that I CANNOT PRODUCE INFINITE MASS IN THE SHAPE OF COMPLICATED DRONE MISSILES.

[Iconic]

People who call other people trolls are [developmentally delayed]ed, from my research a troll is someone who disagree's with people, there real life counterpart is devils advocate.

Call it spamming or being a douche but lets forget this trolling business.

[Icuownage]

*Thinks Iconic needs to look up the definition instead*

 

Trolling goes WAY beyond just simple disagreeing, you get some proffessional trolls out there, didn't you know trolling is a art?

[Iconic]

I'm backing you up.

 

So a troll isn't all that bad, just call someone a generic insult instead of labelling someone as a troll when they're not. Your trolling.... No your trolling.... No your trolling!

[Icuownage]

I'm done arguing too, I agree in certain aspects they're really powerful, but I designed them to be specialised, which apparently is not the thing to do, so I guess I just did it wrong. But the fact is if I get another disadvantage, I'll just work another way out to get past that one.

[Icuownage]

It's not a race tech, you can have one if you REALLY want.

 

Fine I'll not use the loyalty gun, but I will research one throughout the course of the game. That sounds fair to me.

[Icuownage]

There's things that exist that just don't make scientific sense, I mean there is a possiblity this COULD be real. And that REALLY limits the game.

[Nexaduro]

Hrm, is tech that allows me to create a massive swarm of controllabe flying pointed boulders with lazers/missiles/explosive interiors and warp developments into another sector OP?

Not in my opinion, of course it would probably take a long time and a lot of research and it would be easily defendable from.

 

And its detectable, realistic (providing manipulation of gravity), limited and doesn't proxy control your race in a couple of seconds.

 

Mather, we can talk about whatever we like and complain about whatever we like, if there is a problem it needs to be fixed.

 

I don't think anyone is playing as human hegemony, its just a lore thing.

Theoretically, it's easy to defend against.

Theoretically, it's detectable.

Theoretically, it's limited.

Theoretically, it doesn't proxy control your race in a couple of seconds.

 

They're basically more intricate, adaptable and useful versions of Mather's drones. And more realistic as well, because they will run out due to the fact that I CANNOT PRODUCE INFINITE MASS IN THE SHAPE OF COMPLICATED DRONE MISSILES.

False. Anything is possible when you're Norwegian.

 

Also Mather please revise your definition of troll.

You do know that I am Norwegian. :P

[Icuownage]

Same way as magnets... [bleep]ing miracles.

 

And I dunno, but I just feel like limiting me is just a teensy bit mean.

[Iconic]

Whats the point of having something you won't use?

And thats like me saying (in a game where bioweapons are banned) "I have bioweapons I just won't use them :shifty:"

[Nexaduro]

^ exactly why I said it.

Oh, I get it. That joke is now at least twice as funny. :D

[Icuownage]

Oh well it's more years on weapon research that actually makes me a larger threat.....

[a_bert]

50 pages of whining and the game hasnt even started yet

 

-mather dungeonal out

[Icuownage]

Look I said I am not going to have it anymore, Jesus, I will use my 150 years on something else... That makes me a larger threat...

 

And that was a thing from the Internet, otherwise known as a joke.

 

And cause people are being lazy and have not given Archi everything he needs to start.

[Nexaduro]

My race is primarily psionic, but it's more computer-assisted telekinesis and doesn't do anything involving the enemy mind. Kademi are psionic in the same kind of way as the Orkz, their tech wouldn't work without a driving mental force.

[Icuownage]

Well I can almost see a pattern emerging here, once someone gets ahead, Edel and Rocco will instantly call OP and say they have to be at their level to make things balanced. Mod will be forced to nerf the people until all of their work is all for naught. Oh and when either of them will get ahead, which it will if everyone else is nerfed, then no one else will scream OP, cause no one else seems to care, cause it is all part of the game. They will freely get ahead and thus win.

 

If that happens I swear to god I'll just go and quit right as it does.

[Icuownage]

*Plays victim even though they were the one who instigated it*

 

I just love how you believed that it WOULD solve all of my problems, seriously... It probably wouldn't solve them but just make them less likely to happen. Like people are less likely to be unhappy cause I lost ships. The diplomat one I don't even care about, nor do I care about the weakness one cause I just plan to enslave a power race anyway.

[Icuownage]

Already am.....

[paul191600]

I think Illuminate is a pretty cool guy. eh uses mind control rays and doesnt afraid of anything

[archimage_a]

Dusty Race:

Check.

Will redo disadvantages.

Merge first two into weakness against toxins/virus/such, since population is too complicated to keep track of.

Third one is fine.

Adding:

Varga's Promise: To get the rebels to fight, Varga promised a dozen reforms above average, amounting to 5% production penalty.

 

All techs except asteroid mining are basics, but you can improve them if you like.

 

 

You know when people yap on about something, the moderator normally listens because he doesn't want a [cabbage]storm to continue, so it was probably all of you screaming OP! That he did it, cause he was the one who gave me all my disadvantages in the first place.

 

Nah, you were the second race I did, I was pretty easy going, where as other people got a harsher deal.

 

Disadvantages:

Zero-Gs- Development on a low Gee world and in Space, has rendered them especially weak, even compared to other low gravity dwellers.

OH THE HUMANITY!- If more than twelve ships are destroyed within a single battle (Enemies don't count) then there will be a morale penalty.

You let THEM on the ship!- Alliances with races less technologically advanced create a morale penalty.

Koniophobia- Manned Fighters are all but outlawed.

No Ship Is Left Behind!- If a ship is not destroyed, it must be towed back or defended until repaired enough to carry on.

 

Hrm, is tech that allows me to create a massive swarm of controllabe flying pointed boulders with lazers/missiles/explosive interiors and warp developments into another sector OP?

Should hope not...Sounds like a space fleet...

 

 

 

Please be aware that disadvantages and advantages will change over time.

[Nexaduro]

Only one of the things has to be manned, and the ship section spontaneously break off and...

 

*Sigh* Ok, now it just seems like a useless waste of resources. Goddamnit... I guess I should just go with damned giant lazers or nukes or some other stupid thing that every frickin' other person has.