Exclusive Content

[i_trollz_u]

Serously, rewarding people who have 104M hits xp and raising level caps for the purpose of appealing to the egos of high levels is different from releasing content that requires like 70-85 in a skill.

 

wrong thread bro, that thread is called "120 constitution"

 

Oh yeah, content that is avaibale to like, 65 people on the HP highscores is definately not considered exclusive content. And examples are bad, because they don't support arguments. teach me plz.

>every person in favor of more high level content supports the requisites of hundreds of millions of xp

 

because im sure everyone on here that supports it, who oddly are all maxed or nearly maxed players, consideres level 70-85 in a skill exclusive content.

[Golvellius]

I don't have problems against high level content, I do however, have problems with high levels who continuously complain for more content.

Quoted because I agree with it.

I just want level 80 armour at the moment to match my level 80 shield and sword.

I've given up on 120 skills, the one they gave us is cabbage and you know the next one they would give is runecrafting....

[Den]

Let's say, 70 dunge. If you have a questcape but have, oh 30 dunge perhaps, your going to be very mad that you can't do the quest, nor will you be able to for a while.

 

70 Dungeoneering hardly takes long to get.

 

God forbid Jagex release something people actually have to work towards in order to access.

[Obtaurian]

I find it humorous that everyone AGAINST high-level content can only come up with "but i ddun wannaa!!@!@@" as a reason. Grow up.

[All_Is_Great]

I don't have problems against high level content, I do however, have problems with high levels who continuously complain for more content.

 

Makes you wonder why they complain.

 

It does make me wonder. I have, before, given a list of updates in the past several months, and on it, there were plenty of exclusive high level content. So, pray, tell me why these elitists continue to ask for more bosses, more high end equipment, etc?

[i_trollz_u]

I don't have problems against high level content, I do however, have problems with high levels who continuously complain for more content.

 

Makes you wonder why they complain.

 

It does make me wonder. I have, before, given a list of updates in the past several months, and on it, there were plenty of exclusive high level content. So, pray, tell me why these elitists continue to ask for more bosses, more high end equipment, etc?

 

Because people who are low levels are obviously just lazy. duh. anyone can get exclusive content easily with a little bit of work, thats why its called...oh wait.

[Golvellius]

Tl;dr: Constructive criticism towards the author is better and more effective than continuous arguments about the same thing amongst the fanboys.

Okay, so you don't want to discuss the lack of updates beyond 80.

So, let's talk about how many different looking rune armours we have the game.

Keep in mind thats a level 40 item and the number of level 80 armour we have.

 

Rune Armour

Rune Trimmed

Rune Gold Trimmed

Rune Solid Gold

Rune with Guthix Trim

Rune with Saradomin Trim

Rune with Zamorack Trim

Rune with Zaros Trim

Rune with Bandos Trim

Rune with Armadyl Trim

Rock Shell

Rune Heraldic Set1

Rune Heraldic Set2

Rune Heraldic Set3

Rune Heradic Set4

Rune Heraldic Set5

Sacred Clay Armour

Castlewars Profound

 

Only sacred clay and castlewars profound do anything special.

Everything has the same stats.

[Jehosaphat]

Tl;dr: Constructive criticism towards the author is better and more effective than continuous arguments about the same thing amongst the fanboys.

Okay, so you don't want to discuss the lack of updates beyond 80.

So, let's talk about how many different looking rune armours we have the game.

Keep in mind thats a level 40 item and the number of level 80 armour we have.

 

Rune Armour

Rune Trimmed

Rune Gold Trimmed

Rune Solid Gold

Rune with Guthix Trim

Rune with Saradomin Trim

Rune with Zamorack Trim

Rune with Zaros Trim

Rune with Bandos Trim

Rune with Armadyl Trim

Rock Shell

Rune Heraldic Set1

Rune Heraldic Set2

Rune Heraldic Set3

Rune Heradic Set4

Rune Heraldic Set5

Sacred Clay Armour

Castlewars Profound

 

Only sacred clay and castlewars profound do anything special.

Everything has the same stats.

And, oddly enough, only sacred clay, rockshell, heraldic helms, and castlewars profound look different aside from a little bit of Palette Swapping. So... not sure what your point is here besides that Jagex has been doinitrong when proportioning unique items for low levels and those for high levels.

[All_Is_Great]

I find it humorous that everyone AGAINST high-level content can only come up with "but i ddun wannaa!!@!@@" as a reason. Grow up.

 

If tomorrow Jagex released an armour set that required 120 dungeoneering to aquire and use, I wouldn't hate it. I wouldn't be against it either. It won't affect me at all.

 

I find it humorous that everyone who wants high-level content complains on a daily basis. Hey, I want exclusive content too, namely for construction, but you don't see me going around telling everyone how much I deserve to have a 50 room dungeon with all the coolest monsters and traps in it, and putting it everywhere. So why don't YOU grow up?

[Obtaurian]

I find it humorous that everyone AGAINST high-level content can only come up with "but i ddun wannaa!!@!@@" as a reason. Grow up.

 

If tomorrow Jagex released an armour set that required 120 dungeoneering to aquire and use, I wouldn't hate it. I wouldn't be against it either. It won't affect me at all.

 

I find it humorous that everyone who wants high-level content complains on a daily basis. Hey, I want exclusive content too, namely for construction, but you don't see me going around telling everyone how much I deserve to have a 50 room dungeon with all the coolest monsters and traps in it, and putting it everywhere. So why don't YOU grow up?

 

I believe that all players should have content tailor-made for their level range. As it stands, low and mid-level players are totally inundated with content while high-level players have very, very little. I believe this should be rectified so that ALL of us have something to do at our levels. I don't see how this completely reasonable and logical viewpoint could be immature in the slightest. However, opposing this viewpoint is very obviously an extremely childish way of thinking. This is irrefutable.

[SirIzenhime]

The Enchanted robes from Clue scrolls have the same stats as the mystic equivalents, but there are no enchanted boots or gloves, so there's only 3 pieces to the set as opposed to 5 when you compare it to full mystic

[Jehosaphat]

The Enchanted robes from Clue scrolls have the same stats as the mystic equivalents, but there are no enchanted boots or gloves, so there's only 3 pieces to the set as opposed to 5 when you compare it to full mystic

Ah.

[PereGrin]

Tl;dr: Constructive criticism towards the author is better and more effective than continuous arguments about the same thing amongst the fanboys.

[hide]Okay, so you don't want to discuss the lack of updates beyond 80.

So, let's talk about how many different looking rune armours we have the game.

Keep in mind thats a level 40 item and the number of level 80 armour we have.

 

Rune Armour

Rune Trimmed

Rune Gold Trimmed

Rune Solid Gold

Rune with Guthix Trim

Rune with Saradomin Trim

Rune with Zamorack Trim

Rune with Zaros Trim

Rune with Bandos Trim

Rune with Armadyl Trim

Rock Shell

Rune Heraldic Set1

Rune Heraldic Set2

Rune Heraldic Set3

Rune Heradic Set4

Rune Heraldic Set5

Sacred Clay Armour

Castlewars Profound

 

Only sacred clay and castlewars profound do anything special.

Everything has the same stats.[/hide]

And, oddly enough, only sacred clay, rockshell, heraldic helms, and castlewars profound look different aside from a little bit of Palette Swapping. So... not sure what your point is here besides that Jagex has been doinitrong when proportioning unique items for low levels and those for high levels.

I am pretty sure that is what he is getting at. I mean, we do have 15 different sets of ranger armor for levels 1-70, and nothing after 70 besides morrigans. And all of the best normal armor in the game requires defense level 70 and under. And the best weapons in the game are at level 80 attack, and even so, the whip is still 3rd best, and best non-degradable. So why is it that 19 levels of attack and strength have no good weapons, and 24 levels or more of defense unlock no more armor?

[Lep]

Oh, so that means Dagonhi isn't the exact same stats as Mystic? I see.

 

Okay, let me rephrase myself - level 40 magic armors with exact/almost exact same stats. Some of which isn't even used at all because it's harder to get than the other crap armors that are even better than them yet are still crap.

 

Dagonhi

Mystic blue

Mystic red

Mystic white

Skeletal

Enchanted

Splitbark

Sacred clay

 

And Infinity might as well be on that list too even though it's 50. (HUGE difference)

[Jehosaphat]

Tl;dr: Constructive criticism towards the author is better and more effective than continuous arguments about the same thing amongst the fanboys.

[hide]Okay, so you don't want to discuss the lack of updates beyond 80.

So, let's talk about how many different looking rune armours we have the game.

Keep in mind thats a level 40 item and the number of level 80 armour we have.

 

Rune Armour

Rune Trimmed

Rune Gold Trimmed

Rune Solid Gold

Rune with Guthix Trim

Rune with Saradomin Trim

Rune with Zamorack Trim

Rune with Zaros Trim

Rune with Bandos Trim

Rune with Armadyl Trim

Rock Shell

Rune Heraldic Set1

Rune Heraldic Set2

Rune Heraldic Set3

Rune Heradic Set4

Rune Heraldic Set5

Sacred Clay Armour

Castlewars Profound

 

Only sacred clay and castlewars profound do anything special.

Everything has the same stats.[/hide]

And, oddly enough, only sacred clay, rockshell, heraldic helms, and castlewars profound look different aside from a little bit of Palette Swapping. So... not sure what your point is here besides that Jagex has been doinitrong when proportioning unique items for low levels and those for high levels.

I am pretty sure that is what he is getting at. I mean, we do have 15 different sets of ranger armor for levels 1-70, and nothing after 70 besides morrigans. And all of the best normal armor in the game requires defense level 70 and under. And the best weapons in the game are at level 80 attack, and even so, the whip is still 3rd best, and best non-degradable. So why is it that 19 levels of attack and strength have no good weapons, and 24 levels or more of defense unlock no more armor?

Because Jagex has been doinitrong.

 

My question is: why are we all arguing about it almost continually on a fansite board instead of taking our arguments to those who could actually change it?

[Kimberly]

Because Jagex has been doinitrong.

 

My question is: why are we all arguing about it almost continually on a fansite board instead of taking our arguments to those who could actually change it?

 

1) This is a fansite where we discuss runescape and all aspects of said game.

 

2) Very few suggestions are actually passed on to the Developement team and because of their inefficent forum structure it's likely a hard-working, thoughtful topic can be lost if you're not vigilant. And Jagex reads fansites as well, so discussing it here is arguably more effective than posting on the RSOF.

 

3) This isn't like a bug report that you can file and it's automatically passed to the right people who can fix it.

 

Because discussion will be diverse, you're not going to always encounter opinions you agree with. Saying, "Go whine about it somewhere else" is not only a useless gripe, but it only serves to derail threads. It just doesn't really work out. You're better off hiding those individual's post if you don't like them, by using this board's ignore feature. Then, everyone wins.

[green9090]

My question is: why are we all arguing about it almost continually on a fansite board instead of taking our arguments to those who could actually change it?

PFFFFFFHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

 

Are you joking? Okay, like, 4 years ago I was an avid supporter of high level content. I made several iterations of a thread basically inventing extreme potions as well as similar content for every single skill. I got pages and pages of support and very little hate. I bumped like crazy.

 

Not one Jagex mod posted, ever, over the course of several months of this. I looked around and saw that the other threads in suggestions with brilliant, game-changing advice were also invariably left untouched and ignored. Meanwhile, especially in that time period, Jagex just kept pumping out the most inane garbage you can imagine while these brilliant and not at all difficult concepts with pages of community support were discarded without thought.

 

Not much has changed. If you have an idea or an opinion that the majority of RS agrees with, you can bet that Jagex will ignore your concerns unless you're a PKer whining about something harming your precious PvP experience.

 

Trying to get Jagex's attention is an exercise in frustrating, rage-inducing failure. They're so spectacularly incompetent and closed-minded. There is no way I'm trying that again.

[Kimberly]

Trying to get Jagex's attention is an exercise in frustrating, rage-inducing failure. They're so spectacularly incompetent and closed-minded. There is no way I'm trying that again.

 

It's kind of funny you would say that because just by posting on such a popular fansite your opinions are probably more noted than they ever had with your previous efforts.

[Sir_Squab]

Let's say, 70 dunge. If you have a questcape but have, oh 30 dunge perhaps, your going to be very mad that you can't do the quest, nor will you be able to for a while.

 

70 Dungeoneering hardly takes long to get.

 

God forbid Jagex release something people actually have to work towards in order to access.

 

You have lvl 1 Dunge. It would take time. Do it in say... 20 hours of RS time. I doubt you could, and most people couldn't.

 

Look. I'm not saying 70 DG for a quest is bad. I actually have, what, 73 atm? I'm saying that releasing it say with the monkey quest this month is rather unfair for someone with a questcape and lvl 1 dunge; if they did 30, then 45, 52, 58 64, 70 or something....okay. Or gave warning. Because, frankly, God forbid Jagex releases a quest with requirements much higher then that of the quest with the next highest requirements. They have to face reality and accept that too many questers would be annoyed. This is also exactly why, ages ago, somewhere that I'm not going to look for, they said they wouldn't have a cape for completing all the diaries.

 

Frankly, you could say that a lot of questers are immature because of this, who are too attached to their questcape, throw in a comment about e-peen, instant gratification, etc, and probably be correct. Doesn't chance the fact that Jagex can't release a quest with requirements significantly higher then the previous max requirements, because too many questers will rage. Bad PR move.

 

Frankly, if they give warnings for significantly increasing the requirements, remind people enough, maybe "token" quests just to build it up (example, new quest comes out tommorow, you have to do floor 12 of dunge. Rewards: Zip. Questpoints award: zip. Forces people with questcape to raise Dunge.)

 

Oh, so that means Dagonhi isn't the exact same stats as Mystic? I see.

 

Okay, let me rephrase myself - level 40 magic armors with exact/almost exact same stats. Some of which isn't even used at all because it's harder to get than the other crap armors that are even better than them yet are still crap.

 

Dagonhi

Mystic blue

Mystic red

Mystic white

Skeletal

Enchanted

Splitbark

Sacred clay

 

And Infinity might as well be on that list too even though it's 50. (HUGE difference)

 

Lesse. Splitbark actually has fairly different stats, more defence, less offence. Infinity IS a step up from mystic actually Wait, it's not that much higher is it o.O. Dagonhai has a +1 pray bonus on each piece; although I'll still give you that one because otherwise its about identical to mystic. Still, I'd say there are 2 different sets at lvl 40, the more defensive one such as splitbark or skele (which appears to be -1 on like every stat then splitbark lol) and the mystic stuff.

 

You know, range/mage needs a few more sets of armour UNDER 40, particularly mage. Well, range at least needs more under 40 armour compared to melee (1,1,5,10,20,30,40) all levels which you can get better armour at. Listed 1 twice because of bronze and iron.

[All_Is_Great]

I find it humorous that everyone AGAINST high-level content can only come up with "but i ddun wannaa!!@!@@" as a reason. Grow up.

 

If tomorrow Jagex released an armour set that required 120 dungeoneering to aquire and use, I wouldn't hate it. I wouldn't be against it either. It won't affect me at all.

 

I find it humorous that everyone who wants high-level content complains on a daily basis. Hey, I want exclusive content too, namely for construction, but you don't see me going around telling everyone how much I deserve to have a 50 room dungeon with all the coolest monsters and traps in it, and putting it everywhere. So why don't YOU grow up?

 

I believe that all players should have content tailor-made for their level range. As it stands, low and mid-level players are totally inundated with content while high-level players have very, very little. I believe this should be rectified so that ALL of us have something to do at our levels. I don't see how this completely reasonable and logical viewpoint could be immature in the slightest. However, opposing this viewpoint is very obviously an extremely childish way of thinking. This is irrefutable.

 

I know what you guys believe, and I'm not even against it :rolleyes:. High level content is great, but still, high levels are the minority. Jagex has to cater to the masses, and they're doing a good job of that. But it's not like Jagex has completely left high levels in the dark, right? So why do high levels continuously complain/whine about Jagex efforts?

 

I'm not saying your ideas are childish and immature, I'm saying the amount of constant complaining and whining seems that way, doesn't it? When you think of people who complain alot, the first you think about is spoiled kids. That's the impression I get from high levels on this board.

 

Also, judging from the posts comparing different rune/mystic sets, am I correct in assuming you want different versions of the chaotic rapier, bandos armour? Why is that even necessary? You have the best equipment in such a catagory, isn't that enough?

[green9090]

I know what you guys believe, and I'm not even against it :rolleyes:. High level content is great, but still, high levels are the minority. Jagex has to cater to the masses, and they're doing a good job of that. But it's not like Jagex has completely left high levels in the dark, right? So why do high levels continuously complain/whine about Jagex efforts?

 

I'm not saying your ideas are childish and immature, I'm saying the amount of constant complaining and whining seems that way, doesn't it? When you think of people who complain alot, the first you think about is spoiled kids. That's the impression I get from high levels on this board.

If we stop being vocal, we'll be that much easier to ignore. The fact is, most skills have nothing interesting to do in the top 50-70%, which is ridiculously poor game planning. Imagine a console game with kickass bosses and new weapons for the first couple of levels, and then you have to spend over double that amount of time doing pointless fetch quests without gaining meaningful new abilities or items all the way to the anticlimactic end. This is an issue that will affect everyone that doesn't quit in a few months of playing.

 

We complain because this is the most pressing problem in the game at the moment, and Jagex needs to face that eventually. If years of complaining is what it takes, so be it. It's not like we're hurting anyone.

[Obtaurian]

Really? When I think of a large group of people complaining with legitimate concerns, I think of unsatisfied customers. When we're talking about customers that have been around for years and have given Jagex hundreds of dollars, I'd say they're more than entitled to more than one update every year.

 

When I see players who complain because they can't access content that they didn't work for, that's when I think of spoiled children.

[All_Is_Great]

I know what you guys believe, and I'm not even against it :rolleyes:. High level content is great, but still, high levels are the minority. Jagex has to cater to the masses, and they're doing a good job of that. But it's not like Jagex has completely left high levels in the dark, right? So why do high levels continuously complain/whine about Jagex efforts?

 

I'm not saying your ideas are childish and immature, I'm saying the amount of constant complaining and whining seems that way, doesn't it? When you think of people who complain alot, the first you think about is spoiled kids. That's the impression I get from high levels on this board.

If we stop being vocal, we'll be that much easier to ignore. The fact is, most skills have nothing interesting to do in the top 50-70%, which is ridiculously poor game planning. Imagine a console game with kickass bosses and new weapons for the first couple of levels, and then you have to spend over double that amount of time doing pointless fetch quests without gaining meaningful new abilities or items all the way to the anticlimactic end. This is an issue that will affect everyone that doesn't quit in a few months of playing.

 

We complain because this is the most pressing problem in the game at the moment, and Jagex needs to face that eventually. If years of complaining is what it takes, so be it. It's not like we're hurting anyone.

 

It's not like they're done with the game. It's not like they'll NEVER add new content, you'll just have to wait. You know who have waited even longer than you and the rest of elitist boss hunters? People who enjoy smithing! That skill has basically remained the SAME since the beginning of time. But hey, I don't see them creating topics all over Gen. Discussion complaining about how there isn't an update to smithing. I know there are rumors going around about a big uphaul, and that's long overdue. Then take a look at all the content you've gotten during that time. GWD, Corp, TDs, frosties, all these great moneymakers (esp the last 2) so you can buy those top class equipment. What more could you want?

 

Really? When I think of a large group of people complaining with legitimate concerns, I think of unsatisfied customers. When we're talking about customers that have been around for years and have given Jagex hundreds of dollars, I'd say they're more than entitled to more than one update every year.

 

When I see players who complain because they can't access content that they didn't work for, that's when I think of spoiled children.

 

I guess it all depends on how you word it, right? When I think of people who have a handful of content to enjoy, but constantly ask for more, I think spoiled brats. And the problem with your first line is you don't have legitimate concerns. LOL one update every year, just LOL. During the past 3 years, dating back to 2007, there have been GWD, Corp, WGS + TDs, overloads, ancient curses, dungeoneering, elite diaries, warped floors, etc. That's definately one update every year. The warped floors JUST came out, and the complaining already starts again. Why don't you start complaining after you can access warped?

 

Before you start saying "oh well look at how much content low levels have gotten! waaaaah! :cry: !" I go back to the fact the majority of players are low level, therefore they deserve more content. Jagex isn't going to abandon low levels, and cater only to high levels, they have to keep low levels happy, because that's where they get most of their money. You don't pay more for membership because you're 130+, or less because you're only level 50, everyone pays the same.

[Obtaurian]

The only high-level boss is Corp, and even that can be soloed.

[Kimberly]

The only high-level boss is Corp, and even that can be soloed.

 

Well, that's true, but that really speaks to the slow progression of content rather than a lack of it. Corp was nigh impossible to solo until the issue of ovls wasn't it? Or am I getting my timelines wrong?