st0wner Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 This is how we get the fur for those expensive fur coats WARNING VERY GRAPHIC! -- Link removed by mod-- Note: the animal is alive throughout the whole process. Note: they cannot kill the animal before they skin it or they could damage the fur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weezcake Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 Ack, the video seemed a bit inappropriate to me. Way too graphic. (I didn't watch it, but I know what it's like, and it's scary.) You can discuss animal rights and the fact that we use them as clothing here- but please, no graphic videos or images. :) ==================================Retired tip.it moderator.Teaching and inspiring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escape5 Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 Thank you for removing the video. I hate skinning animals :( Its just so sad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anesthesia Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 And so natural. People have been doing it for millennia. Doesn't mean to say unnecessary suffering is good though. Some people are changed by being a moderator. I wouldn't be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbobart Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 For people who didn't see the video yet: Market stale in an asian country, badger-ish kind of animals on the ground (alive). Man takes badger, swings it to the ground. Badger is just merely confused, and is actually still alive. Man takes knife, cuts in the belly of the animal (not deeper than where the fur ends) and rips it off. Animal is still alive, bleeding like a pig, and is thrown on a cart with dozens of other skinned animals. They just have an awful lot of pain, and are still alive. Brutal stuff. Really bothers me those men don't kill the badger immidiately with a hammer or another blunt object. Just a throw towards the floor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kielmccaul75 Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 For people who didn't see the video yet: Market stale in an asian country, badger-ish kind of animals on the ground (alive). Man takes badger, swings it to the ground. Badger is just merely confused, and is actually still alive. Man takes knife, cuts in the belly of the animal (not deeper than where the fur ends) and rips it off. Animal is still alive, bleeding like a pig, and is thrown on a cart with dozens of other skinned animals. They just have an awful lot of pain, and are still alive. Brutal stuff. Really bothers me those men don't kill the badger immidiately with a hammer or another blunt object. Just a throw towards the floor. That is rather sick. But one part of that post I found funny. bleeding like a pig I have never heard "bleeding like a pig" before, care to explain? I am very agains't animal cruelty, but I am not against the skinning of animals that have been killed quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaN Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 There is no reason why they cant kill the animal before hand. ~Dan64AuSince 27 Aug 2002 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightLite Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 you'd think they could just inject the animal or somethin, make it not suffer.. - Only character in Runescape History maxed out in RSC and RS2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hurl Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 I couldn't imagine that happening to any of my pets. :shock: 123 Combat / 1900 Skill Total / 99 HP / 7x 99 Stats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hohto Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 Human kind has skinned animals for thousands of years. Other humans are suffering all the time and now we are here crying for an animal that probably went to a shock pretty fast and didn't even feel anything after that. Btw I find it rather funny that it seems to be ok to kill a snake for example, but killing an animal with a fur is brutal. We seem to judge it by the looks of the animal. I'd rather die for what I believe in than live for anything else.Name Removed by Administrator ~Turtlefemm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete_the_Viscous Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 There's always something that puzzles me about animal rights videos and adverts -- the ones that show animals being badly treated. In order to get their film... they must have stood by and let the animal be mistreated, at least until they've got their filming done. deviantart account Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubsa Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 What's stopping us from skinning alive the people that did this? This is how much you all raised for charity. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
How2PK Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 Human kind has skinned animals for thousands of years. Other humans are suffering all the time and now we are here crying for an animal that probably went to a shock pretty fast and didn't even feel anything after that. Btw I find it rather funny that it seems to be ok to kill a snake for example, but killing an animal with a fur is brutal. We seem to judge it by the looks of the animal. Snakes get killed for skin aswell. Obviously this topic isn't about the killing of the animal for fur, it's the way they handle things that is bad. And I don't see why we shouldn't care for other living creatures other than ourselves, and nobody is crying. When somebody throws your computer out of the window you get mad at them too, right? I bet you don't think of the millions of hungry people suffering from AIDS at that moment and the next hours, maybe days. And then it's only a computer, it doesn't even have feeling. Skinning is okay, but it should be done properly instead of this way. Signature by Maurice SendakWhen the stars make you drool just like a pasta fazool, that's amore! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hohto Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 Snakes get killed for skin aswell. Obviously this topic isn't about the killing of the animal for fur, it's the way they handle things that is bad. And I don't see why we shouldn't care for other living creatures other than ourselves, and nobody is crying. When somebody throws your computer out of the window you get mad at them too, right? I bet you don't think of the millions of hungry people suffering from AIDS at that moment and the next hours, maybe days. And then it's only a computer, it doesn't even have feeling. Skinning is okay, but it should be done properly instead of this way. When have you seen a video of a snake being brutally killed and then people have cried about it at internet? For me nature is a really important thing and it shouldn't be hurt, but I find it rather funny how we only care when an animal with fur and big eyes get tortured. I don't think it suffered any more than those bugs you poison. Yet you care about that animal and not about those bugs. And to be honest, I couldn't care less about people suffering from AIDS or hunger at Africa. That's what overpopulation gets you, it's just a good thing that we get rid of "few" people. I wrote a bit bigger essay of it at some thread, but can't find it atm. I'd rather die for what I believe in than live for anything else.Name Removed by Administrator ~Turtlefemm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 Oh my god........thats horrible........What kind of freak would actually wear something that they took from a living creature like you and I, and then wear it!!!!!!! Ahrim has huge thighs?Lego's would be a nice addition to Construction. ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverSurrender Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 Noone ever asked cotton if it wanted to be picked, did they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hohto Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 Oh my god........thats horrible........What kind of freak would actually wear something that they took from a living creature like you and I, and then wear it!!!!!!! To who did you point that? I'd rather die for what I believe in than live for anything else.Name Removed by Administrator ~Turtlefemm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_swat Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 I aint an animal lover..But this is really sad. :( 23 whip pks,3 dhorka,2 ahrims lvl 119 attack 99 strength 99 and defence 92 plus 94 mage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
How2PK Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 When have you seen a video of a snake being brutally killed and then people have cried about it at internet? For me nature is a really important thing and it shouldn't be hurt, but I find it rather funny how we only care when an animal with fur and big eyes get tortured. I don't think it suffered any more than those bugs you poison. Yet you care about that animal and not about those bugs. And to be honest, I couldn't care less about people suffering from AIDS or hunger at Africa. That's what overpopulation gets you, it's just a good thing that we get rid of "few" people. I wrote a bit bigger essay of it at some thread, but can't find it atm. I haven't maybe they just aren't there? Maybe they are there, but on other fora. I don't think you should see this as a protest specifically against this animal, but more as animal skinning in a whole. And I think there is a difference between the bugs we poisen for 'healthier' food (not pers̮̩̉̉ healthier, we eat biological food at home) and an animal brutally skinned because a rich woman/man wants to show off to her friends at a party. And the second part, I don't agree with that but that's not what the topic is about (so let's not get into that), it was merely an example. Signature by Maurice SendakWhen the stars make you drool just like a pasta fazool, that's amore! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JIMMIE Posted December 18, 2005 Share Posted December 18, 2005 Thats sick. I thought some places drowned the animal before skinning, which is bad enough in itself. But this is just worse. ~Jimmie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaN Posted December 18, 2005 Share Posted December 18, 2005 you'd think they could just inject the animal or somethin, make it not suffer.. I pretty sure they can but just choose not to bother ~Dan64AuSince 27 Aug 2002 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy500fan Posted December 18, 2005 Share Posted December 18, 2005 i dont see why it has to be alive, but i guess if thats how they want to do it... theres got to be a ton of ways to kill it without hurting the fur, even a little cut shouldnt hurt it that much. when me and my dad skin deer we kind of just close the hole and sew it together, and you couldnt even tell there was a hole there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zippi08 Posted December 18, 2005 Share Posted December 18, 2005 Yeah, it's horrible the way they do it. I can't believe how people can just cut an animal open and then tear off its skin. It is true that we value animals based on how they look. Like someone said that we don't care about killing insects, but to kill a dog is a horrible crime. Thanks for the sig, Runesmithie :)RIP Steve Irwin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_swat Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 At least drowning them means that they are dead when getting skinned not alive. 23 whip pks,3 dhorka,2 ahrims lvl 119 attack 99 strength 99 and defence 92 plus 94 mage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kane Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 why have soft fur when you can have soft cashmere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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