Quest_Done Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 So I just did some math using the Max hit calc, and i found that with 99 str dragon dagger special hits harder than dragon claws.....WHAT!? why even buy dragon claws then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert_R Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 So I just did some math using the Max hit calc, and i found that with 99 str dragon dagger special hits harder than dragon claws.....WHAT!? why even buy dragon claws then?i've been asking myself the same thing. For lower level monsters I find dds better just because 4 specials typically means 4 kills. But for some reason claws seem to hit more on higher level monsters. And faster. So claws>dds on higher levels. I'm probably wrong on something but that's what I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 I would imagine because claws are faster, and deal more damage in a set amount of time. RIP TET "That which does not kill us makes us stronger." - Friedrich Nietzsche Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladewing Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 claws are far more accurate, and the mean hit is much higher as well. How to Chin Nechyraels for fast XP and profit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirIzenhime Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 With a DDS, if you're first hit is a 300...you're second hit can still be zero. With claws, if you're first hit is a 300...then your total damage will be about 600...no matter what. Claw specs also have a much greater accuracy then dds specs. Yes, the DDS has higher max hits...but honestly...I rarely hit anywhere close to it...with claws, 50% of my specs are good. Fisher/Woodcut------Me-----Miner/crafter----Stabber----Leecher ^Golvellius must be so proud^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quest_Done Posted January 3, 2011 Author Share Posted January 3, 2011 so basically, since they are more accurate, they are good for boss fights, or high level monsters...whereas the Dragon dagger would be better for reg mobs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankit Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Claws for high defDDS for low #Solace | Solace Senior Member | Solace Forums | Solace MemberlistI'm making a killing here, I think I should be on top of the world just chilling here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gremmy Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Claws for high defclaws for low def (assuming the rest of your gear is the best) Dragon drops: 82 (2 claws)Dagannoth kings drops: 73Barrows item count: 51GWD drops: 54 (5 hilts: 1x bandos, 3x saradomin, 1x zamorak)Whips: 4Sigils: 1x spectral (FFA), 1x arcane (FFA) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hegelstad Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 This ^ Claws have another damage formula than DDS hence why it tends to hit higher in almost every single case My lame drops:6 Effigys1 D Med - 1 D Dagger1 Verac's Helmet - 1 Guthan's Platebody Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Korasi's sword is typically better on extremely high defence in single combat (e.g. steels, mithrils, players in barrows). DDs is perhaps better on something with no defence, e.g. LRC, greaters and such. Claws are great on anything, though. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slayer_Jesse Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 yeah, even tho its theoretically possible to 1hit some1 with dds in safe pvp, (maxed gear) it would be extraordinarily rare. by the same token however, claws can hit 960 total, are very accurate, and can do another large dmg spec again right away. [hide=Siggy credits]The Awesome, Epic, Amazing, S3xah A-10 Sig By Unolexi! I wub u Uno!InsanityV2 Did the Franz Ferdinand Sig.Killerwatt is responsible for the Arctic Monkeys sig.Pat_61 did the B-2 sig and the raptor sig.[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elf Spice Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Claws technically aren't much more accurate than DD, it's just that they have fewer accuracy rolls and thus less chance of failure. If you pass the first roll on your claws spec, then the other 3 are bypassed. Whereas you would have to go through 4 accuracy rolls to spec twice with the DD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirIzenhime Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 Claws technically aren't much more accurate than DD, it's just that they have fewer accuracy rolls and thus less chance of failure. If you pass the first roll on your claws spec, then the other 3 are bypassed. Whereas you would have to go through 4 accuracy rolls to spec twice with the DD. I'm pretty sure the special attack of claws is more accurate then the special attack of DDS Fisher/Woodcut------Me-----Miner/crafter----Stabber----Leecher ^Golvellius must be so proud^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teryaki Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 kind of simple in my opinion... The accuracy of dragon dagger is far less than dragon claws... Then again if u have maxed out equipment u might not be hitting 0s on monsters... Far more bettr PvP...Second of all.. sure i guess dragon dagger hits higher... so i just looked at by how much... now lets see : Nothing but your str, the dagger and the skin on ur back u hit 218(x2) with dds... coming out to a total of 436 if u completely hit the max hit. Now the Claws: Again, nothing but ur base str, no pots or prayers, your using Dragon Claws special, (211-105-62-52) qhcih equals 430 6 con Points less, so in hp terms... .6 of one hp point.. Okay now lets add that claws are faster, and much easier to max out, because the claws spec only matters on ur first hit, then ur second is followed by cutting ur first in half, third hit is a third of first hit, and fourth hit is a fourth of ur first hit... So just hit a 200+ with no armor and you are hitting very close to ur max, but not with ur dds cause it matters on both hits, and neither hits are affiliated with eachother, sort of like a gamble... So you decide, easy monster? maybe dds is bettr.. ANY PvP or higher level monsters probably might want the Claws... Again money does matter too :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now