Using Farming JuJu potions, I've lost 426,950 from Farming Torstols. I brought 10 seeds for 2.9m and my 70 herbs sold for 2.56m but one of my patches died. I'm I doing something wrong or was it just because one of my patches died? But thankfully I made about 600k back from the Scroll of Life (making up for loses). Is it just luck?

Yes, keep going at it it should profit although in current situations snapdragons are the best herb to farm

Firstly, 10 seeds is pretty tiny sample size

 

It's also up to you to not buy torstols seeds for too high a price, and sell the herbs for too low.

Because small % changes in torstol herb prices can completely ruin your profits.

Firstly, 10 seeds is pretty tiny sample size

 

It's also up to you to not buy torstols seeds for too high a price, and sell the herbs for too low.

Because small % changes in torstol herb prices can completely ruin your profits.

 

+1

 

also snaps are much lower risk and still decent profit. I've made over 4 mil profit now from 100 seeds and I've still got 30 seeds to go...

Since The juju potions have come out ive been keeping stats on all of my farming runs of torstol. Over 565 herbs planted ive grown 5182 herbs, averaging 9.17 herbs per seed including deaths and gained about 27mil just from selling the herbs (i dont know how many free seeds i got from the scroll of life, but can only assume around 56 from the 1/10 ratio given.)

 

i would say that you just had some less than desirable luck and the small sample size doesnt help, just keep your hopes up and im sure you will have some better luck eventually.

Since The juju potions have come out ive been keeping stats on all of my farming runs of torstol. Over 565 herbs planted ive grown 5182 herbs, averaging 9.17 herbs per seed including deaths and gained about 27mil just from selling the herbs (i dont know how many free seeds i got from the scroll of life, but can only assume around 56 from the 1/10 ratio given.)

 

i would say that you just had some less than desirable luck and the small sample size doesnt help, just keep your hopes up and im sure you will have some better luck eventually.

 

Since the rate of living for herbs if supercompost is used is 90% (I've also heard 85) the 10% chance at seeds back almost perfectly offsets that. It's a little skewed as my arms patch can't die, and even dead patches can give back a seed at random.

 

To add to my other post, another advantage of farming snaps is your ability to use a scroll of cleansing for additional profit in making the unf pots of snapdragon. Torstol you can't do this with because unf torstol pots are used in Zamorak Brews and nothing else while the torstol is wanted for overloads.

On average, I get 9 herbs per patch (including deaths).. this allows me to gain a small profit per patch.

I did two batches of torstol this week of 20 seeds each.

 

One (20 torstol seeds) gave a profit of 1.5M

 

The other (another 20 torstol seeds) a profit of 300k.

 

Sometimes it all works against you. It happens. But in the long run you should have a profit.

Torstol is a seed that if even one patch dies, you will LOSE no matter what. And also, you will also lose on not getting 6+ herb per patch. Generally, torstols are very overrated for farming. You could've made more farming just about any other high level herb. If you still insist on famring torstols, planting it just in the Trollheim patch would be your best bet on not losing.

Torstol is a seed that if even one patch dies, you will LOSE no matter what. And also, you will also lose on not getting 6+ herb per patch. Generally, torstols are very overrated for farming. You could've made more farming just about any other high level herb. If you still insist on famring torstols, planting it just in the Trollheim patch would be your best bet on not losing.

 

Torstol are not overrated.

Without Juju potions, the average yield per seed is 6.5, and this DOES account for dead herbs.

With Juju potions, this should increase your yield to around 9.75...still accounting for deaths.

You won't make money every trip, but the ones you do far outwiegh those you don't.

 

Without Juju potions, you're right, planting torstol is not good to do. With Juju potions...if you have the level, planting torstol is easily the most profitable.

You didn't lose money, you made around 120k. Scroll of life is part of torstol farming. But yeah, you still were unlucky. Should be 300k+ a run on average.

This is the way farming is.

I have been posting for years about how little you make on farming in reality.

Everybody works the spreadsheets and never considers stuff dieing.

So if nothing dies then you make some money but for most stuff its what 100k-200k every 2 hours.

Thats pretty junky in my book and I'm not a gp factory like some people claim to be.

 

My word of advice for you is never plant torstols outside of My Arms joint.

This is the way farming is.

I have been posting for years about how little you make on farming in reality.

Everybody works the spreadsheets and never considers stuff dieing.

So if nothing dies then you make some money but for most stuff its what 100k-200k every 2 hours.

Thats pretty junky in my book and I'm not a gp factory like some people claim to be.

 

My word of advice for you is never plant torstols outside of My Arms joint.

 

Actually in the example I gave I included the patches that died.

 

the effect of dead patches is countered by the scroll of life.

 

You can't farm torstols without supercompost, magic secateurs, scroll of life, and juju farming pots and make profit.

 

But with all of the above you do make a profit.

This is the way farming is.

I have been posting for years about how little you make on farming in reality.

Everybody works the spreadsheets and never considers stuff dieing.

So if nothing dies then you make some money but for most stuff its what 100k-200k every 2 hours.

Thats pretty junky in my book and I'm not a gp factory like some people claim to be.

 

My word of advice for you is never plant torstols outside of My Arms joint.

 

Facepalm. How can you be maxe and be so uneducated? Stuff dieing can easily be incorporated, and it already is. I've been farming torstols for quite some time, and I've been making enormous profits. You mention 2 hours of farming, while the actual farming takes 5 minutes... Just stop posting if you don't know what you are talking about, please.

This is the way farming is.

I have been posting for years about how little you make on farming in reality.

Everybody works the spreadsheets and never considers stuff dieing.

So if nothing dies then you make some money but for most stuff its what 100k-200k every 2 hours.

Thats pretty junky in my book and I'm not a gp factory like some people claim to be.

 

My word of advice for you is never plant torstols outside of My Arms joint.

 

The average yield of 6.5 (9.75 with Juju) DOES taking dieing herbs into account.

At least now that Golvellius told us farming sucks for money we know for sure that farming is totally worth doing. :thumbsup:

This is the way farming is.

I have been posting for years about how little you make on farming in reality.

Everybody works the spreadsheets and never considers stuff dieing.

So if nothing dies then you make some money but for most stuff its what 100k-200k every 2 hours.

Thats pretty junky in my book and I'm not a gp factory like some people claim to be.

 

My word of advice for you is never plant torstols outside of My Arms joint.

 

 

Don't give ultra bad advice. If you disagree this being bad advice, I will be needing some proof from your part, as many others have proven mathematically that farming herbs(ESPECIALLY torstols) IS very profitable.

 

And it's pretty obvious that farming herbs(5 minutes per run) requires very little effort and time. + it's a cool activity to do in between slayer tasks or really, training almost anything.

 

If you don't like farming, don't give bad advice.

It is true though that farming torstol is more unfavourable than ever. Seed prices are still semi high, while herbs have dropped quite a bit. You still make good profit, but it's been better.

The average yield of 6.5 (9.75 with Juju) DOES taking dieing herbs into account.

Hah, every year that average herb yield per patch climbs.

Last time I tried to give this community a reality check I was bombarded with its 6 herbs not 5!

5 of course being my personal experience time and time again.

But, hey glad to see the number is climbing, too bad Jagex actually didn't change the code.

 

It is true though that farming torstol is more unfavourable than ever.

What do you call it when somebody claims something is awesome then a few lines later say "its more unfavorable than ever"?

I call it a disclaimer for that somebodies opinion.

Even though it is more unfavourable than ever, torstol is still awesome. You have missed the good time to farm them, but they'll come again.

The average yield of 6.5 (9.75 with Juju) DOES taking dieing herbs into account.

Hah, every year that average herb yield per patch climbs.

Last time I tried to give this community a reality check I was bombarded with its 6 herbs not 5!

5 of course being my personal experience time and time again.

But, hey glad to see the number is climbing, too bad Jagex actually didn't change the code.

 

I've always noticed around a 6.5, that's my average. Ever since farming came out (well...a few months after I guess :P), I've always had the same average yields, and it's always been around 6.5.

Apparently the code likes me more then you.

The average yield of 6.5 (9.75 with Juju) DOES taking dieing herbs into account.

Hah, every year that average herb yield per patch climbs.

Last time I tried to give this community a reality check I was bombarded with its 6 herbs not 5!

5 of course being my personal experience time and time again.

But, hey glad to see the number is climbing, too bad Jagex actually didn't change the code.

 

It is true though that farming torstol is more unfavourable than ever.

What do you call it when somebody claims something is awesome then a few lines later say "its more unfavorable than ever"?

I call it a disclaimer for that somebodies opinion.

 

Considering as you see farming herbs a waste of time, I seriously doubt you have conclusive data to support the "5 herbs per patch average" theory.

It may very well be 5 for you, and you may have gotten a bit unlucky, but unless you have some data, lets say... 2000 seeds farmed, and 10k herbs picked, then your statement of 5 being the average is not valid.

The average yield of 6.5 (9.75 with Juju) DOES taking dieing herbs into account.

Hah, every year that average herb yield per patch climbs.

Last time I tried to give this community a reality check I was bombarded with its 6 herbs not 5!

5 of course being my personal experience time and time again.

But, hey glad to see the number is climbing, too bad Jagex actually didn't change the code.

 

It is true though that farming torstol is more unfavourable than ever.

What do you call it when somebody claims something is awesome then a few lines later say "its more unfavorable than ever"?

I call it a disclaimer for that somebodies opinion.

Learn to read the full sentence, idiot. It has been better but it still is very good/profitable. (pretty sure you aren't that stupid to not understand and that you're just trying to annoy me, but oh well, I'll just fall for it).

 

I personally stopped farming torstols (or anything else) cause I'm already 99 farming and cba doing it when it's not super duper uber good, but IF you decide to farm herbs, they're still easily the best, and they still make you 2-3m+ an hour (being conservative here). It's just that it used to be 5m+ (500k pofit per run which takes 5 min).