Slayer question.

[Unhesitating]

Is full bandos worth the cash for slayer? There's not much else I need/can afford atm, so I don't know if I should buy it or save for something better. Thoughts?

[Illicit_Fun]

I'd go for it.

 

Efficient Outlook:

Save up for 95 Prayer for Turmoil. Once you can afford that (including the value of the Bandos set), sell the Bandos and buy the level. I see you can already make extremes, but Overload should eventually be one of your priorities.

[JPMC Mate]

Stats?

If you have extremes/turmoil/ss/yak, get it. Otherwise, get those first as stats for those items > armour (since the armour can be lost).

[Unhesitating]

I have ext's, i'm slaying to make money for 95 pray, and i'm working on charms for 96. I have 30m to spend on armor or skills, what should I go for first? is 96 summoning possible with 30m?

[JPMC Mate]

You will need a lot more than that. Are you able to spend more time getting $ for aforementioned levels? If not, Bandos would be worth it. Otherwise, it is not.

[Unhesitating]

Right now, i'm doing abby demons for whips/ashes, but it's not as fast as I would like it.

[jrkerr]

16m slay xp here.

 

I felt like I wore Karil's 50% of the time for its mage def,

Proselyte 25% for its prayer bonus, or 25% Verac/Guthan/Torag for

the more challenging slayer tasks like Kalphite Queen (verac) or Terrordogs/goraks (guthan).

 

I didnt use Bandos once and I never felt like +6 strength wouldve sped it up.

I did use the hell out of extreme potions, combat familiars, prayers and the

sgs special attack.

 

sgs > bandos.

[JPMC Mate]

EE > SGS. I find SGS not worth it anymore.

[Unhesitating]

I have an sgs, but I use ee for healing on harder to hit monsters because that way i get guaranteed healing.

[Uzamak1]

Fighter Torso, Verac's Skirt, DDef, Super/Extreme Set or OvLs, Piety/Turm flash.

 

I'm close to 1k rank in all BA roles, if you need a pro BAer :P

[jrkerr]

oh sure. ee is great. but thats... free.

 

he is saying I have X amount of money to spend on accelerating slay xp - if I can extrapolate that from his first post

and then... with ge the way it is today... sgs is suddenly much cheaper and bandos is kinda stable/high

 

maybe resource dungeon ranarr spawns drove pray potion cost down so much that an sgs takes longer to

pay for itself in prayer potion saving, but... spec'ing dark beats with sgs in proselyte is clearly more useful

than... taking damage from dark beasts in bandos and using ee special to heal.

[Th e Doctor]

Inb4queynax(however the hell you spell her name)slayerpost.

 

If you have turmoil/extremes/and a yak then buy it. Personally I would get it before a yak. The 6 strength saves a good number of hours off of 99 slayer. But since you don't need the defense you can also go with a fighter torso and veracs skirt to save cash.

 

Don't slay for profit. Do something that profits well for profit, use that money to slay better.

 

Don't ever buy a godsword. BGS is semiuseful for corp and nothing else.

 

Edit

 

Ignore that jrkerr didn't "feel" like+ 6 str would have sped things up. It will. You can certainly do it without, but you could also do it with a bronze dagger. Doesn't mean its a good idea.

[Goldenjkered]

16m slay xp here.

 

I felt like I wore Karil's 50% of the time for its mage def,

Proselyte 25% for its prayer bonus, or 25% Verac/Guthan/Torag for

the more challenging slayer tasks like Kalphite Queen (verac) or Terrordogs/goraks (guthan).

 

I didnt use Bandos once and I never felt like +6 strength wouldve sped it up.

I did use the hell out of extreme potions, combat familiars, prayers and the

sgs special attack.

 

sgs > bandos.

 

50% of the time you used Karils? I not calling you a liar or anything, but the only tasks I use Karils on are Waterfiends and Mithril Dragons. I do have Bloodvelds and Aquanites blocked, but still, theres only around five tasks you could possibly need to use Karils on, and even then, Abby Spectres should be prayed due to cannon, and Aquanites hit pretty rough when it comes to tanking. SGS is kind of outdated now. The prayer restore can be nice on certain tasks, but for the most part, the EE outshines it, not to mention the EEE blows it away considering it doesn't cost 30 odd million and they both give a nice defense boost.

 

Bandos is nice if you don't like blowing your money on skills, and you already have everything else you need. By the looks of things your already pretty well off in the herblore department, so if you want to, you could invest that money in prayer or summoning, both are very useful when it comes to slayer. It's really a personal choice, whether you want to spend the money on skills or a nice set of armour.

[jrkerr]

Er... no... really.

 

I would get a task for 100+ black dragons and go do KBD.

Its not "max slay an hr!!!111" like those swedish guys who put a cannon on baby black dragons, but... um...

I also have a POH with every single slayer head mounted.

 

Idk. I'd have got bored doing easier monsters for my tasks, so yeah... I advise changing gear for every task and

not minmaxing slayer like it was one of those goofy minigames like pest control or soul wars that you dont want

to spend any money on - where bandos would be more attractive (since you can buy, use it a week, and sell it back without losing money).

 

yeah I wouldnt get lazy and kill with an sgs, but its special that restores prayer points does mean you get more kills between banking.

 

so yeah. 50% of my slayer tasks were done in Karil's top/bottom. I think I was at like... +150 mage def w/ karil, firecape, dfs, etc.

karils is really great, of course, because its +0 stab, slash, crush. you can't really sub armadyls back in.

 

edit/reminder: I have... everything. I've been playing a long time and I like collecting cool stuff.

but this guy at 85 slayer sayin I have X amount of money to spend... I'd use that amount of money

to buy things in this order:

sgs, karils top/bottom, dfs (and whip)(for attack/def focus), zamorak spear, sara sword (for str focus), verac top/bottom, full guthan, and then bandos last.

[SirIzenhime]

sgs, karils top/bottom, dfs (and whip)(for attack/def focus), zamorak spear, sara sword (for str focus), verac top/bottom, full guthan, and then bandos last.

:blink:

 

 

To answer OPs question...I'd get the bandos, but sell it once you have enough for turmoil.

It'd be easier to answer if we knew what all the items you have already are as far as slayer equipment goes.

[Lose No Hope]

 

50% of the time you used Karils? I not calling you a liar or anything, but the only tasks I use Karils on are Waterfiends and Mithril Dragons. I do have Bloodvelds and Aquanites blocked, but still, theres only around five tasks you could possibly need to use Karils on, and even then, Abby Spectres should be prayed due to cannon, and Aquanites hit pretty rough when it comes to tanking. SGS is kind of outdated now. The prayer restore can be nice on certain tasks, but for the most part, the EE outshines it, not to mention the EEE blows it away considering it doesn't cost 30 odd million and they both give a nice defense boost.

 

Bandos is nice if you don't like blowing your money on skills, and you already have everything else you need. By the looks of things your already pretty well off in the herblore department, so if you want to, you could invest that money in prayer or summoning, both are very useful when it comes to slayer. It's really a personal choice, whether you want to spend the money on skills or a nice set of armour.

You unlocked Aquanites???

 

OP as many others have said, get bandos and sell it when you have enough cash+bandos to get the levels.

[Goldenjkered]

 

50% of the time you used Karils? I not calling you a liar or anything, but the only tasks I use Karils on are Waterfiends and Mithril Dragons. I do have Bloodvelds and Aquanites blocked, but still, theres only around five tasks you could possibly need to use Karils on, and even then, Abby Spectres should be prayed due to cannon, and Aquanites hit pretty rough when it comes to tanking. SGS is kind of outdated now. The prayer restore can be nice on certain tasks, but for the most part, the EE outshines it, not to mention the EEE blows it away considering it doesn't cost 30 odd million and they both give a nice defense boost.

 

Bandos is nice if you don't like blowing your money on skills, and you already have everything else you need. By the looks of things your already pretty well off in the herblore department, so if you want to, you could invest that money in prayer or summoning, both are very useful when it comes to slayer. It's really a personal choice, whether you want to spend the money on skills or a nice set of armour.

You unlocked Aquanites???

 

OP as many others have said, get bandos and sell it when you have enough cash+bandos to get the levels.

 

Haha ye, I very much regret unlocking them, didn't know what they were at the time.

[Bladewing]

sgs, karils top/bottom, dfs (and whip)(for attack/def focus), zamorak spear, sara sword (for str focus), verac top/bottom, full guthan, and then bandos last.

why are you giving such bad advice

 

i have more slayer xp get under me

 

OT: get bandos, sell it once you can afford 95 prayer

[homer205]

Ignore j r's list of order to buy things for slayer. While 95 prayer is better than bandos, if it's out of your reach for the time then bandos will remain relatively stable. I should make a note that it is likely to drop before the bonus xp weekend and rise after it though.

[hide=quyneax's standard slayer gear response]

The base slayer gear is as follows (alternatives in brackets):

 

•[For all slayer monsters except those mentioned under other weapons] Chaotic rapier (whip)

 

•Bandos body + legs (Verac's skirt with either fighter torso or proselyte top)

 

•[Depending on prayer/accuracy needs] Fire cape/Soul Wars cape/Ardougne cloak 3

 

•Barrows gloves (your best rfd gloves, at least rune)

 

•Dragon boots (rune boots)

 

•Amulet of fury (glory)

 

•Dragon defender (rune defender)

 

•Berserker ring (i)/ferocious ring if slaying in Kuradal's Dungeon (berserker ring, warrior ring)

 

•[Most important] Full slayer helmet.

 

•[For magic defence on waterfiends/aquanites] Karil's top and elite void skirt (black dragonhide body and chaps)

 

•[Crush attacks to use on waterfiends] Chaotic maul (Saradomin sword, Zamorakian spear)

 

•[stab attacks for higher-levelled dragons, when not using rapier] Korasi's sword (Zamorakian spear, leaf-bladed sword)

 

•Task-specific items such as mirror shields, antifire shields/potions, elemental shields, rock hammers, crystal chimes

 

•Cannon (optional, up to personal preference)

 

Slayer setups generally emphasise strength bonus, which increases the average damage of each succesful hit (slayer monsters usually having rather low defence, hitting is not a problem). Secondly, prayer bonus is important to keep the cost of prayer potions down (as you slay with piety on, to increase the speed of your kills. This is cost-effective and highly recommended). As a rule of thumb, +15 prayer bonus or above is good, but don't overdo it (anything above +25 is a waste). Defence and accuracy bonus are usually not fretted over (any defence bonus over 200 will do; if you get hit too often you should be using a protection prayer). Dagganoth, black demon, black dragon, lesser demon, hellhound, bloodveld and abberant spectre tasks should be cannoned, as it dramatically increases xp rates (although it costs a bit).

 

Some notes on gear: You'll want a fury and a berserker ring before you get bandos plate, and get that before tassets. You'll want accuracy bonus on higher-levelled dragons; if using stab attacks (which you should) you can use the Ardougne cloak 3 which provides you with +6 stab and +6 prayer bonus. Torso + sw cape and fire cape + proselyte are common cheap top/cape combinations; the former is better.

 

Some levels to get for slayer (in approximate order but I'm not sure on the summoning):

 

•68 summoning - bunyip

 

•81 dungeoneering (you need 2 million xp, which takes you to level 80, but allowing some tokens for the scroll of life) - rapier

 

•89 herblore (85 with a +4 stew boost) - extreme potions, superantifires

 

•95 prayer - turmoil and soul split

 

•88 summoning - unicorn

 

•96 herblore (91 with a +5 stew boost) - overload

 

•99 summoning - steel titan

 

I'm sure I missed something but this is most of it.

 

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[Aiel]

edit/reminder: I have... everything. I've been playing a long time and I like collecting cool stuff.

but this guy at 85 slayer sayin I have X amount of money to spend... I'd use that amount of money

to buy things in this order:

sgs, karils top/bottom, dfs (and whip)(for attack/def focus), zamorak spear, sara sword (for str focus), verac top/bottom, full guthan, and then bandos last.

sgs is an out dated piece of [cabbage], any task you can do in karils, you can do in black dhide, a dfs is worth it for a few tasks, but should be nowhere near the top, you need a zs OR SS and a rapier, whip is mostly unnecessary. Verac's top should be subed for a fighter torso or any other barrows body. Verac's skirt should be the first thing you buy. As we can assume OP isn't playing like its 2007, he doesn't need guthans, and bandos should be bought then resold when OP could get 95 prayer if he sold it. If you don't know what your talking about, please do not post in H&A. Also, using SGS so you need to bank less? How are you managing to need to bank less then exactly 0 times per task?

[jrkerr]

'bank more than once a task'

uhm... because you'll fill up with gems at goraks, herbs at spectres, bars at mithrils if yer bag fulla food and potions you dont need?

yeah I'd yak scroll home 64 red hides for a sumona red drag task or 50 wyvern bones so yknow... ok... I didnt use sgs there.

 

'cannon spectres'

uhm... unless you hate wearing robes and get yer mage xp from a wolpertinger as often as possible

 

'more slay xp blah blah'

mmk. I have all the slayer heads and a couple slay pets in my poh.

 

'guthans is so 2007'

ok block goraks and terror dogs then. I did 'em because they're not bad loot for gems/blue charms.

guthans is the easy way to grind em out while you eat pizza and watch subtitled Japanese gangster movies from the 60s.

 

hey not sure if I have activated the i-love-my-bandos defence feature on you guys or what... I own bandos too.

but I really got more use out of sgs/karils as I caped slayer... and thats before homegirl's cave, so...

I surrender that her tasks in that little cave with that funny blue ring might make more of a mini game out of slayer these days.

[Obtaurian]

Jrkerr,

 

It sounds like you got 99 slayer before "power-slaying" was the standard. You should read Zarfot's Mega Slayer Guide before you try to offer slayer advice to people on these forums.

 

As for OP - do what everyone else said and buy Bandos till you can afford to sell it for 95 prayer.

[Aiel]

'bank more than once a task'

uhm... because you'll fill up with gems at goraks, herbs at spectres, bars at mithrils if yer bag fulla food and potions you dont need?

yeah I'd yak scroll home 64 red hides for a sumona red drag task or 50 wyvern bones so yknow... ok... I didnt use sgs there.

oh wait, banking because your invent is full has nothing to do with a SGS

 

'cannon spectres'

uhm... unless you hate wearing robes and get yer mage xp from a wolpertinger as often as possible

what does this even mean?

 

'more slay xp blah blah'

mmk. I have all the slayer heads and a couple slay pets in my poh.

cool story bro, that doesn't make your right

 

'guthans is so 2007'

ok block goraks and terror dogs then. I did 'em because they're not bad loot for gems/blue charms.

guthans is the easy way to grind em out while you eat pizza and watch subtitled Japanese gangster movies from the 60s.

so is a unicorn

 

hey not sure if I have activated the i-love-my-bandos defence feature on you guys or what... I own bandos too.

sense when do you need defense for slayer?

 

but I really got more use out of sgs/karils as I caped slayer... and thats before homegirl's cave, so...

I surrender that her tasks in that little cave with that funny blue ring might make more of a mini game out of slayer these days.

change happens m8, sounds like your just made I can get slayer xp 3-5x faster then you could when you got your cape

[SirIzenhime]

'bank more than once a task'

uhm... because you'll fill up with gems at goraks, herbs at spectres, bars at mithrils if yer bag fulla food and potions you dont need?

yeah I'd yak scroll home 64 red hides for a sumona red drag task or 50 wyvern bones so yknow... ok... I didnt use sgs there.

Gem bag works wonders, it's a reward from dungeoneering that can hold 100 uncut gems from sapphire-diamonds, I take it to almost all tasks :thumbsup:

I can understand Herbs before you have a yak, but once you have a yak, leaving a task of spectres should never be needed, even if you're cannoning them. For Bars, it's not really worth the time going out of your way to bank those from miths. If you really want them, take a tortoise and fill them up in that. Since you get so few Miths in a task, you should be able to bank almost all of them without leaving just with a tort.

What does a full inventory have to do with an SGS? :unsure:

 

 

'cannon spectres'

uhm... unless you hate wearing robes and get yer mage xp from a wolpertinger as often as possible

I'm confused...what does magic have to do with a cannon at aberrant specters?

 

 

 

'more slay xp blah blah'

mmk. I have all the slayer heads and a couple slay pets in my poh.

I've gotten 2 abyssal heads, 2 basalisk heads, 6 kbd heads ( -.- ) and a kurask head. What's your point?

Everyone else's point with the more xp was about getting more xp/hour.

 

'guthans is so 2007'

ok block goraks and terror dogs then. I did 'em because they're not bad loot for gems/blue charms.

guthans is the easy way to grind em out while you eat pizza and watch subtitled Japanese gangster movies from the 60s.

I've actually never had Goraks, so I have no idea what kind of defense is needed there, but I've never had trouble at Terror Dogs with a unicorn there. Nowadays I just take a prayer pot, and use soul split when I start getting low (I use steel titan for a familiar, fast free point task ftw \:D/ )

 

 

hey not sure if I have activated the i-love-my-bandos defence feature on you guys or what... I own bandos too.

but I really got more use out of sgs/karils as I caped slayer... and thats before homegirl's cave, so...

I surrender that her tasks in that little cave with that funny blue ring might make more of a mini game out of slayer these days.

You got your slayer cape awhile ago, that's fine. It doesn't change the way slayer works now. With summoning, more special weapons and other abilities, items like Guthans just aren't need anymore. After I got 68 summoning, my guthans just started collecting dust, I just never needed it anymore. I slayed in Torag for the longest time as well until I had a lot of money just saved up. I finally bought bandos, and haven't turned back since. You just don't need the defense anymore on slayer tasks like you used to. Staying at a slayer task for the full time only takes one simple 2k pouch now, not a full set of barrows.

Karils isn't only needed for 2 tasks now btw (at least once you can use Kuradal), waterfiends, and mithril dragons.

 

Your advice isn't bad....if it was 2007. But things have changed quiet a bit with how combat and slayer work. Read up a bit on the newer methods of slaying before you start giving advice. In today's setting, you're advice just doesn't cut it.

[Quyneax]

@ jrkerr: you're not taking into account many things when suggesting your gear, opportunity cost being one of them

 

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The base slayer gear is as follows (alternatives in brackets):

• [For all slayer monsters except those mentioned under other weapons] Chaotic rapier (whip)
  
• Bandos body + legs (Verac's skirt with either fighter torso or proselyte top)
  
• [Depending on prayer/accuracy needs] Fire cape/Soul Wars cape/Ardougne cloak 3
  
• Barrows gloves (your best rfd gloves, at least rune)
  
• Dragon boots (rune boots)
  
• Amulet of fury (glory)
  
• Dragon defender (rune defender)
  
• Berserker ring (i)/ferocious ring if slaying in Kuradal's Dungeon (berserker ring, warrior ring)
  
• [Most important] Full slayer helmet.
  
• [For magic defence on waterfiends/aquanites] Karil's top and elite void skirt (black dragonhide body and chaps)
  
• [Crush attacks to use on waterfiends] Chaotic maul (Saradomin sword, Zamorakian spear)
  
• [stab attacks for higher-levelled dragons, when not using rapier] Korasi's sword (Zamorakian spear, leaf-bladed sword)
  
• Task-specific items such as mirror shields, antifire shields/potions, elemental shields, rock hammers, crystal chimes
  
• Cannon (optional, up to personal preference)
  

Slayer setups generally emphasise strength bonus, which increases the average damage of each succesful hit (slayer monsters usually having rather low defence, hitting is not a problem). Secondly, prayer bonus is important to keep the cost of prayer potions down (as you slay with piety on, to increase the speed of your kills. This is cost-effective and highly recommended). As a rule of thumb, +15 prayer bonus or above is good, but don't overdo it (anything above +25 is a waste). Defence and accuracy bonus are usually not fretted over (any defence bonus over 200 will do; if you get hit too often you should be using a protection prayer). Dagganoth, black demon, lesser demon, hellhound, bloodveld and spectre tasks should be cannoned, as it dramatically increases xp rates (although it costs a bit).

 

Some notes on gear: You'll want a fury and a berserker ring before you get bandos plate, and get that before tassets. You'll want accuracy bonus on higher-levelled dragons; if using stab attacks (which you should) you can use the Ardougne cloak 3 which provides you with +6 stab and +6 prayer bonus. Torso + sw cape and fire cape + proselyte are common cheap top/cape combinations; the former is better.

 

Some levels to get for slayer (in approximate order but I'm not sure on the summoning):

• 68 summoning - bunyip
  
• 81 dungeoneering (you need 2 million xp, which takes you to level 80, but allowing some tokens for the scroll of life) - rapier
  
• 89 herblore (85 with a +4 stew boost) - extreme potions, superantifires
  
• 95 prayer - turmoil and soul split
  
• 88 summoning - unicorn
  
• 96 herblore (91 with a +5 stew boost) - overload
  
• 99 summoning - steel titan
  

I'm sure I missed something but this is most of it.

[/hide]

 

Homer posted it but this is without the spaces ;). If you can explain the reasoning behind all of this, jrkerr, then you can discuss it.