amitoz Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 ^ What? It's free, so it's great for those who do not have enough for an initial amount for the investment required for a BCP. Unless you already have the Torso, or just REALLY like BA, the torso isn't worth it. The time it takes to get the torso could be used to make money to buy better gear.So you're saying if you already have a torso, it's worth it to get another one? That just makes no sense. ...if you already have it...then you don't need to get it...so then it'd be worth it to use. You're providing juxtaposing antithetical statements. You missed the UNLESS word, buddy. Here, let me explain it to you in lamens terms. If he has torso, it's worth it. If he does NOT have torso, it is not worth it. Make sense yet?Yes, there you go. Next time, try to not use double negatives. Come to my Clan chat (I'm there if I'm online) if you wish to borrow a Green H'ween mask, Blue H'ween Mask, Red H'ween Mask, or Santa for a reasonable price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulxai Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Next time, try to not use double negatives. Where did I use double negatives? You seem to be the only person that got confused, as I stated it very clearly the first time. Double negatives means that there are two negative words in the same sentence... ~ Proud Father ~ Proud (Currently Deployed) Army National Guardsmen ~ Proud Lakota ~ Retired Tip.It Crew ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Stop arguing with amitoz on this thread and others, he can't be reasoned with. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amitoz Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Unless you already have the Torso, or just REALLY like BA, the torso isn't worth it. I'm pretty sure a comma separating two parts of a sentence doesn't count as two separate sentences. Come to my Clan chat (I'm there if I'm online) if you wish to borrow a Green H'ween mask, Blue H'ween Mask, Red H'ween Mask, or Santa for a reasonable price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amitoz Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Stop arguing with amitoz on this thread and others, he can't be reasoned with.I just want to expand my knowledge, for I fail to understand his reasoning. Come to my Clan chat (I'm there if I'm online) if you wish to borrow a Green H'ween mask, Blue H'ween Mask, Red H'ween Mask, or Santa for a reasonable price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LitterBug Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Unless you already have the Torso, or just REALLY like BA, the torso isn't worth it. I'm pretty sure a comma separating two parts of a sentence doesn't count as two separate sentences. I'm sorry Quyneax - but I couldn't resist. Vulxai is using the comma to set off parenthetical elementsMeaning: "Unless you already have the Torso, or just REALLY like BA, the torso isn't worth it. " can also be read "Unless you already have the Torso, the torso isn't worth it." Either way, since when was grammar such a large part of Tip.it forums that you felt the need to correct (although you were incorrect ironically) a non-existent mistake?Are you trying to wage a war on all of the internet? EDIT: I PROMISE not to reply on a thread Amitoz has replied to from now on :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amitoz Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Unless you already have the Torso, or just REALLY like BA, the torso isn't worth it. I'm pretty sure a comma separating two parts of a sentence doesn't count as two separate sentences. I'm sorry Quyneax - but I couldn't resist. Vulxai is using the comma to set off parenthetical elementsMeaning: "Unless you already have the Torso, or just REALLY like BA, the torso isn't worth it. " can also be read "Unless you already have the Torso, the torso isn't worth it." Either way, since when was grammar such a large part of Tip.it forums that you felt the need to correct (although you were incorrect ironically) a non-existent mistake?Are you trying to wage a war on all of the internet? EDIT: I PROMISE not to reply on a thread Amitoz has replied to from now on :/A use of parenthesis would have played a much better role in this grammatical situation. I thought that's what grammar was there for? To provide a sense of structure, so that ideologies could be better understood? THATSWHYNOONETYPESLIKETHISFORITPROVIDESADIFFICULTSTRUCTUREINWHICHTHEREADERCANOBSERVEANDCOMPREHENDSAIDIDEOLOGIES. Come to my Clan chat (I'm there if I'm online) if you wish to borrow a Green H'ween mask, Blue H'ween Mask, Red H'ween Mask, or Santa for a reasonable price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrAnoS_eVo Posted March 16, 2011 Author Share Posted March 16, 2011 Ok, i have vercas skirt and working on slayer points and dung. What else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPMC Mate Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 Ok, i have vercas skirt and working on slayer points and dung. What else?For a long-term goal, you could aim for 88 herblore for extreme atk and def pots. They greatly aid a slayer. You should ultimately, in prayer, aim for turmoil as it boosts tremendously and is also drains prayer slower than Piety. Until then, however, stick to regular prayer book. 88 summoning is great, but not required in slayer as a bunyip is plenty for most tasks. If you want, you can get a berserker ring (i) by playing Mobilizing Armies. Speaking of berserker ring, get one as soon as you are able to, along with a fury of course. A fire cape is also beneficial to have as it gives +2 prayer, +4 str, +1 to all offense and +11 to all defense. Really? Cause as I recall it was you who was the one cussing me at base. Also, re-read what you just said: one 15 second delay (which is an exaggeration to begin with) ruins floor times? You are beyond ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrAnoS_eVo Posted March 17, 2011 Author Share Posted March 17, 2011 Ok, i have vercas skirt and working on slayer points and dung. What else?For a long-term goal, you could aim for 88 herblore for extreme atk and def pots. They greatly aid a slayer. You should ultimately, in prayer, aim for turmoil as it boosts tremendously and is also drains prayer slower than Piety. Until then, however, stick to regular prayer book. 88 summoning is great, but not required in slayer as a bunyip is plenty for most tasks. If you want, you can get a berserker ring (i) by playing Mobilizing Armies. Speaking of berserker ring, get one as soon as you are able to, along with a fury of course. A fire cape is also beneficial to have as it gives +2 prayer, +4 str, +1 to all offense and +11 to all defense.Am i strong enough to do fight caves or should i get range up first? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPMC Mate Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 Get 70/75/80 ranged, 75 def, and 60 prayer. Really? Cause as I recall it was you who was the one cussing me at base. Also, re-read what you just said: one 15 second delay (which is an exaggeration to begin with) ruins floor times? You are beyond ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaaps1 Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 ^ What? It's free, so it's great for those who do not have enough for an initial amount for the investment required for a BCP. Unless you already have the Torso, or just REALLY like BA, the torso isn't worth it. The time it takes to get the torso could be used to make money to buy better gear.So you're saying if you already have a torso, it's worth it to get another one? That just makes no sense. ...if you already have it...then you don't need to get it...so then it'd be worth it to use. You're providing juxtaposing antithetical statements. You missed the UNLESS word, buddy. Here, let me explain it to you in lamens terms. If he has torso, it's worth it. If he does NOT have torso, it is not worth it. Make sense yet?Yes, there you go. Next time, try to not use double negatives. I'm sorry, but Vulxai said the exact same thing both times. Only difference is adding the clause that "or you really like BA", which, btw, is equally acceptable with parenthesis and commas. EDIT: On the topic of the torso's defense. Yes, it's nothing spectacular, but coupled with Verac's Skirt, you'll generally get all the defense you'll need for melee slayer, provided you have bunyip. It won't do anything at boss monsters though, except maybe TDS, where you could argue using it if you didn't have void. Of course, when I was melee slaying with my torso, I was just about maxed melee, so take this with a grain of salt. ~It's Super Effective! (The Zaaps Blog)~My YouTube Channel, where you get to watch me go around and make a fool out of myself and all comp capersGuides:~Yeah I wrote them once~Suggestions:~Yeah I made those once~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsboutin2 Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 I'd say just grab a barrow's set. (Torag is pretty cost-efficient, last I checked), a black mask, and slay until you have cash for the better stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrAnoS_eVo Posted March 17, 2011 Author Share Posted March 17, 2011 Fire cape wis, i can't do the pits with 60 range or just mage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirIzenhime Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 You can do it with that range level, but it will be slow and painful. A higher prayer level would also be MUCH more desirable, as with your low prayer level now, the potions will not restore that many points, and you'll feel short of prayer the whole way I'd say wait until 70+ range and 70+ prayer (both for piety and more restoration from potions) before trying the fight cave. In fact, if you're good at understanding tactics (like kiting), all you're missing is the prayer. The fight cave is quiet fast with melee compared to range at any level. All you'd really need is an Enhanced Excaliibur or SGS to keep you alive assuming you don't mess up too often. Fisher/Woodcut------Me-----Miner/crafter----Stabber----Leecher ^Golvellius must be so proud^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrAnoS_eVo Posted March 17, 2011 Author Share Posted March 17, 2011 You can do it with that range level, but it will be slow and painful. A higher prayer level would also be MUCH more desirable, as with your low prayer level now, the potions will not restore that many points, and you'll feel short of prayer the whole way I'd say wait until 70+ range and 70+ prayer (both for piety and more restoration from potions) before trying the fight cave. In fact, if you're good at understanding tactics (like kiting), all you're missing is the prayer. The fight cave is quiet fast with melee compared to range at any level. All you'd really need is an Enhanced Excaliibur or SGS to keep you alive assuming you don't mess up too often.If i can't get the fire cape yet what cape should i wear? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sado Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 SW cape, Ardy cape 3, Skillcape, obsidian cape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrAnoS_eVo Posted March 17, 2011 Author Share Posted March 17, 2011 Can you use assist to get tasks done? Also is using assist worth to use on effigy's then just get the lamp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirIzenhime Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 No to the task question Yes to the effigy question. Fisher/Woodcut------Me-----Miner/crafter----Stabber----Leecher ^Golvellius must be so proud^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrAnoS_eVo Posted March 17, 2011 Author Share Posted March 17, 2011 Sorry for asking yet another question but where should i get 70 range and what should i use? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 Use void (get it if you have to) and knives on yaks or chins on skeletal monkeys. Use prayer and potions, too. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrAnoS_eVo Posted March 17, 2011 Author Share Posted March 17, 2011 Use void (get it if you have to) and knives on yaks or chins on skeletal monkeys. Use prayer and potions, too.I already have void so I'll use it Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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