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What are the parents of the 17 year old thinking when he is making more money in a month than they do in a year :blink:


Sure, he's probably not paying any taxes and will be in jail in the next few years for insider trading from applying this sort of logic to the real life stock market, but yeah, he's got a MUCH better quality of life.
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I would also like to know this but I squeezed as much information from the developers as I could. This also being another point. Please show me where all of you have talked to the devs of this bot.


Considering you didnt' actually tell us what bot you use, uh, investigated, it's a bit hard for us to talk to that specific developer, no?

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And once again, people in this forum prove to be jerks...

Some opinions are best kept to yourself. And this applies both to the OP and the people who replied.

@Article: I actually didn't know one could profit that much with bots. Probably explains why so many people are still running bot sites.


And, by the same vein, your opinion of calling people on this forum jerks should be kept to YOURSELF.

Please follow your own lessons.
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And, by the same vein, your opinion of calling people on this forum jerks should be kept to YOURSELF.

Please follow your own lessons.

You could at least read the article. <_<

@Blind: I don't think we're supposed to mention what bots people use on here...

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MISFORTUNE, SINCE THIS THREAD HAS TANKED, PLEASE WRITE A NEW ARTICLE AND REPLACE THIS ONE WITH THAT ONE.

TALK ABOUT THE MACROS'/MACRO DEVELOPERS' EFFECT ON THE RS ECONOMY (or on the U.S. economy if you can do that). PLEASE INCLUDE SOURCES.

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And once again, people in this forum prove to be jerks...

Some opinions are best kept to yourself. And this applies both to the OP and the people who replied.

@Article: I actually didn't know one could profit that much with bots. Probably explains why so many people are still running bot sites.

the only opinions that you should expect people to keep to themselves are those opinions that violate the forum rules.

getting mad over other's opinions is preeeeeetty dumb.

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I would also like to know this but I squeezed as much information from the developers as I could. This also being another point. Please show me where all of you have talked to the devs of this bot.


Considering you didnt' actually tell us what bot you use, uh, investigated, it's a bit hard for us to talk to that specific developer, no?



I consider it pretty funny that just because I did a little research on the topic of botting you think I use them? Look at my stats, I have had my account since 2005, do not think I would have those stats if I used bots. Also I would release the names but it does not comply with Jagex or Tip.it rules.

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MISFORTUNE, SINCE THIS THREAD HAS TANKED, PLEASE WRITE A NEW ARTICLE AND REPLACE THIS ONE WITH THAT ONE.

TALK ABOUT THE MACROS'/MACRO DEVELOPERS' EFFECT ON THE RS ECONOMY (or on the U.S. economy if you can do that). PLEASE INCLUDE SOURCES.

Please and thank you,

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P.S. -- Please do this so others do not flame you anymore for this article, as sitting here and reading these "criticisms" is useless.

That would actually be a really interesting topic to write about. I approve of this comment.

Misfortune, write about botting and the effect on world economy :D

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And, by the same vein, your opinion of calling people on this forum jerks should be kept to YOURSELF.

Please follow your own lessons.

You could at least read the article. <_<

@Blind: I don't think we're supposed to mention what bots people use on here...


Did I ever say I didn't read it?

The reason I'm so vocal about it is because I feel like I wasted my time by READING it, because all it is is a few simple sums and the point that people use bots to make real life money.

Which took like eight paragraphs to write.
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Just to say one thing, Macros =/= Bots. Macros are combinations of keys, such as mapping one key on a keyboard to press multiple keys at once. A Bot in Runescape actively plays the game and reacts to it in real time, while a macro does not.

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Did I ever say I didn't read it?

The reason I'm so vocal about it is because I feel like I wasted my time by READING it, because all it is is a few simple sums and the point that people use bots to make real life money.

Which took like eight paragraphs to write.

Still, making way more money than most jobs by starting a macro company is pretty shocking. Especially if it's $500,000. :blink:

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A bot is technically the same thing just using java instead of mouse keys. I was using Jagex terms.

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Did I ever say I didn't read it?

The reason I'm so vocal about it is because I feel like I wasted my time by READING it, because all it is is a few simple sums and the point that people use bots to make real life money.

Which took like eight paragraphs to write.

Still, making way more money than most jobs by starting a macro company is pretty shocking. Especially if it's $500,000. :blink:


Which isn't even a true number anyway, this does not take anything else into account other than revenue, it doesn't take into account the oppourtunity cost of the time it took to write the program, it doesn't take into account people who defect on their payments, it doesn't take into account any income tax at all, nor the potential losses if this person were to be sued or shut down, or hell, even dragged into jail for tax evasion.

It's just a simple sum designed to get some shock value, when it's REALLY not accurate.
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Did I ever say I didn't read it?

The reason I'm so vocal about it is because I feel like I wasted my time by READING it, because all it is is a few simple sums and the point that people use bots to make real life money.

Which took like eight paragraphs to write.

Still, making way more money than most jobs by starting a macro company is pretty shocking. Especially if it's $500,000. :blink:



After talking to another dev I found out more information(this was written 2 days after I joined). That specific bot is currently run by two people making $238,000 a year on average and increasing each month.

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Did I ever say I didn't read it?

The reason I'm so vocal about it is because I feel like I wasted my time by READING it, because all it is is a few simple sums and the point that people use bots to make real life money.

Which took like eight paragraphs to write.

Still, making way more money than most jobs by starting a macro company is pretty shocking. Especially if it's $500,000. :blink:


Which isn't even a true number anyway, this does not take anything else into account other than revenue, it doesn't take into account the oppourtunity cost of the time it took to write the program, it doesn't take into account people who defect on their payments, it doesn't take into account any income tax at all, nor the potential losses if this person were to be sued or shut down, or hell, even dragged into jail for tax evasion.

It's just a simple sum designed to get some shock value, when it's REALLY not accurate.



Ah once again my research has countered this. The current bot was a source that started from previously shut down bots that took around 2 months to update and get in working condition. They new number I posted in my last post is including all taxes. Also according to the history of previous websites, Jagex gives them an opportunity to shut down BEFORE they take them to court and sue.

THEREFORE, my information is correct.

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Did I ever say I didn't read it?

The reason I'm so vocal about it is because I feel like I wasted my time by READING it, because all it is is a few simple sums and the point that people use bots to make real life money.

Which took like eight paragraphs to write.

Still, making way more money than most jobs by starting a macro company is pretty shocking. Especially if it's $500,000. :blink:



After talking to another dev I found out more information(this was written 2 days after I joined). That specific bot is currently run by two people making $238,000 a year on average and increasing each month.


If you choose to believe people who's key business is deception and lying basically, then sure, that figure is 100% accurate.

It's not like they'd be grandstanding to make them look like a big shot :shock:
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Did I ever say I didn't read it?

The reason I'm so vocal about it is because I feel like I wasted my time by READING it, because all it is is a few simple sums and the point that people use bots to make real life money.

Which took like eight paragraphs to write.

Still, making way more money than most jobs by starting a macro company is pretty shocking. Especially if it's $500,000. :blink:



After talking to another dev I found out more information(this was written 2 days after I joined). That specific bot is currently run by two people making $238,000 a year on average and increasing each month.


If you choose to believe people who's key business is deception and lying basically, then sure, that figure is 100% accurate.

It's not like they'd be grandstanding to make them look like a big shot :shock:


I 100% believe them as my estimations based on users and botting programs sold(publicized information) match this almost exactly.

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guys i want some feedback on my idea for a new discussion topic before i post it:

people use bots cuz they r lazy and one bot developer makes 500K a year

discuss



wat do u think


Sounds like a tip.it times article babe


I think Jagex should make an in-game statue of Blade in the middle of Varrock with this engraved on the plaque on it.

It's pure literary genius.
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Do macro purchasers get their money back if their macro doesn't work and the developers have a hard time updating it? Surely they sign some liability agreement.
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