Doomsayers

[Grogthurk]

In every thread about...well, every thread in Gen. Discussion, users seem to always fall on the old "argument" that Jagex is greedy and Runescape is dying.

 

I defy you morons to prove that. I know it sounds harsh, but here's the harsh reality. You guys don't know [cabbage] about Jagex, it's business model or it's future plans. I'm not saying what Jagex is doing is perfect. But, niether is any other MMO company. Yeah, there is a huge botting problem. Does that mean the game is dying?

 

No. If anything, it's proof Runescape is thriving. You would honestly have to be slow to not understand that. If there are bots, then there must be a demand for the supply. I shouldn't have to explain that any further. But I will.

 

Grog: I have dozens of apple trees and people keep buying my apples. People must like these apples. I'll grow more and see if more people will buy!

 

Maybe not the best example, but if you could sign into these forums, you should be able to understand.

 

If Runescape were going to be phased out, why would they continue to provide updates? Doesn't matter about the quality. You know, this game is the source of a lot of Jagex employees jobs? Phase it out to risk on a new game that probably will never be as popular as Runescape? Of course that sounds logical. Inb4jagexisntlogical.

 

As I said in another topic, if you think Jagex sucks so much and you know so much about business, go start your own business. If it isn't as successful as Jagex, you fail.

 

I know there is going to be tons of butthurt, but if one person realizes that they were wrong about Runescape is dying, then I have done my job.

 

I know there is going to be posts by people assuming they KNOW what is happening. Im just saying you're wrong unless you're on Jagex pay.

 

Inb4butthurt

[Sy_Accursed]

I think people insisting on putting a paragraph break between every single sentence, thereby making their post appallingly difficult to read, for no good reason are a sign of the apocalypse of written language.

[Grogthurk]

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[Sy_Accursed]

No it doesn't.

Too many breaks is just as bad as a wall of text.

[Grogthurk]

I'm posting from my phone. For me, it isn't too bad. I'll fix when I get to a computer.

[Fairness]

Jagex isn't dying yet. They're just making less and less valuable content, caring less and less, testing how far they can go before they actually start profiting less. In the end, of course, people will start leaving in masses when Jagex finally stoops too low for the general crowd (or starts banning bots, I suppose) and RS will slowly fall apart, but by that time, all the original owners will have enough money to live rich until the end of their lives without ever needing to work or do a damn thing.

 

All bots mean is just that the players don't find (parts of) the game to waste their own time for it. Instead they assign a bot to do it while they go find better things to do. For example, someone wants to boss hunt and wants 99 melees, so he has a bot get it for him. Then he boss hunts as long as he finds it fun. After this, the process repeats, except that eventually Mr. Botter will fail to find any more fun in RuneScape at all, and decides to leave. In the end, all that will remain are addicts, gold farmers and a few of those strange people who enjoy grinding above everything else.

 

I know there is going to be posts by people assuming they KNOW what is happening. Im just saying you're wrong unless you're on Jagex pay.

 

You're not above anyone else, either - you have nothing special that differentiates you from the average Tip.it doomsayer, except that your opinion is the opposite. So, are you wrong or on Jagex pay?

[Grogthurk]

Fair play. I'm not on Jagex pay.

 

I will say that my botting point holds, and your view reinforces it. Obviously there is interest in the game if people are willing to RWT or bot themselves a good account. The point of my topic is that common sense is much stronger than silly speculating. Sure, we have had a fair share of lackluster updates, but there are updates. There are also, in my opinion, earnest attempts from Jagex mods to give good updates.

 

I can't be convinced that Runescape is dying, without Jagex coming forward and saying it. Jagex exploring other opportunities to make new games is 100% in accordance with being a successful business. Blizzard has WoW, Starcraft, Diablo and the rest of the Warcraft games. Jagex is different, they only have the one cash cow. Why change that? Why even risk shutting down Runescape? The logic isn't there.

 

There is no answer to the botting problems in any online game. They're just going to be there and it's up to the players to figure out how to best them. I do get frustrated that I can't cut Yews anymore. Yeah, ivy is better. But I like cutting Yews. But it is hardly an option anymore. But what can I do? I can go to remote locations or just do something else. It is frustrating, but I'll take Jagex at their word when they say that they're combating the bots.

[All_Is_Great]

I know who you're talking about, he-who-shall-remain-unnamed has been posting the same damn thing on just about EVERY single topic, and it is getting very annoying to read them.

[Helm_Lardar]

For me? It's jsut that the game originally designed has several big flaws which can no longer be gone back on. Things like the weird combat triangle, and the firemaking skill.

[Sir_Squab]

For me? It's jsut that the game originally designed has several big flaws which can no longer be gone back on. Things like the weird combat triangle, and the firemaking skill.

 

Yeah, I still enjoy RS, but it has some fundamental flaws in it because it originally started out as a fun project in someones basement. As thus, some parts can be very simple, and other things weren't planned out well (looking at you smithing.)

[Obtaurian]

Runescape is not dying. However, a large portion of the content in this game is poorly balanced, glitchy, and straight-up [developmentally delayed]ed.

[krimi]

I'd say there's more than one consistent "he-who-shall-remained-unnamed."

[FooK-A-Ji]

Hi.

I have nothing constructive to add in this debate.

 

Just came here to say that you can't use the term "inb4" in the original post, hahaha.

[Synthox]

I love how the first post in a rant is almost never constructive. I can only think of one or two rant's I've read that actually contained some sympathy. If people came here to be bullied by elite tipiters, then this would be called the bully forum.

 

As for the OT, RS is not dying. Yet. I doubt it will last past 2020, simply because all the content worth adding will have been added by then.

[Bladewing]

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAH I HATE ELITIST PEOPLE ALSO EVERYONE MUST BE AN ELITIST IF THEY ARE RANTING IN A RANTS FORUM

 

indeed, but how is this relevant to the OP

[SirIzenhime]

I know who you're talking about, he-who-shall-remain-unnamed has been posting the same damn thing on just about EVERY single topic, and it is getting very annoying to read them.

who is oalnddjlgror?

[Synthox]

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAH I HATE ELITIST PEOPLE ALSO EVERYONE MUST BE AN ELITIST IF THEY ARE RANTING IN A RANTS FORUM

 

indeed, but how is this relevant to the OP

That's not at all what I said. I merely observed that the first post in a rant is usually condescending. By the way, you're guilty of this too.

 

So if we could not have this ruin the rant that would be great. Thank you for your cooperation.

[Obtaurian]

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAH I HATE ELITIST PEOPLE ALSO EVERYONE MUST BE AN ELITIST IF THEY ARE RANTING IN A RANTS FORUM

 

indeed, but how is this relevant to the OP

That's not at all what I said. I merely observed that the first post in a rant is usually condescending. By the way, you're guilty of this too.

 

So if we could not have this ruin the rant that would be great. Thank you for your cooperation.

 

There's something ironic happening here, but I can't put my finger on it . . .

[Dragonlordjl]

I know who you're talking about, he-who-shall-remain-unnamed has been posting the same damn thing on just about EVERY single topic, and it is getting very annoying to read them.

who is oalnddjlgror?

Me.

 

He thought he was being clever by creating a thinly-veiled anagram of my username. ;)

 

And FWIW, if you think I am so annoying, put me on your [bleep]ing ignore list. It's what it's there for.

[SirIzenhime]

Oh I see..

 

Well then I agree with him. :thumbup:

[Dragonlordjl]

Oh I see..

 

Well then I agree with him. :thumbup:

:-(

[Crocefisso]

What I find particularly funny is that Doomsayers, which have long been an established part of the game, don't seem to change. Five years ago, after that glitch/massacre in Falador which Durial spearheaded, there were people claiming that Construction was going to be the death of RuneScape - I remember running into them in Falador on one of my long lost accounts quite regularly.

 

People said the same thing, too, when the PVP Wildy was removed and again when, less than a month later, trade limits were imposed. Once again, they were wrong. And now people are saying the same of the reversal of the aforementioned features of the game.

 

Doomsayers follow the same model: they choose an update, and start telling anyone stupid enough to listen that this update alone is a cataclysm which will single-handedly deter newcomers and drive away all current players. Naturally, they overestimate their own prophetic ability and underestimate the patience of humankind - one update, even if it is unanimously derided by the playerbase - can never have such an effect. PeToople quit out of dissatisfation only after a series of confidence shattering events.

 

There's my two cents on doomsayers; like beggars, they're always there, and no one ought to listen to them for anything other than a laugh.

 

 

P.S. To the person who posted the first reply - "death of the written language etc" - you're a moron. His formatting makes no different to the point he's making and I think you'd be better off refraining from bogging down the forum with such pettiness.

[Sy_Accursed]

Well done on comprehending how a sarcastically formed comment about the badly formatted post is created by drawing on the context of the post to make it slightly ironic and greatly hyperbolic.

Next week we have metaphors for you to take too seriously and make stupid comments about.

[Crocefisso]

Well done on comprehending how a sarcastically formed comment about the badly formatted post is created by drawing on the context of the post to make it slightly ironic and greatly hyperbolic.

Next week we have metaphors for you to take too seriously and make stupid comments about.

 

Perhaps the week after that we could have a lesson, especially for you, on how to make sure a post is actually relevant to the topic of the discussion. That way, you'll know where such posts belong.

 

Poor use of irony and hyperbole to try and make your 'correction' - if we can call it that - even vaguely relevant to the topic of this rant does not change the fact that your post was out of place and, for the record, sarcasm is something which can only, with very few exceptions, be portrayed through tone of voice. A "sarcastically formed comment" doesn't apply to your post which, as you go on to say, is closer to being ironic, though really it is not ironic either; your comment was neither oblique in its approach to the subject matter, nor was there any duality of meaning per se, nor is there anything deceptive in the comment. Thus it is irony on only the most basic level.

 

So, your comment is only really hyperbolic. This doesn't change anything. It wouldn't change anything if you wrote a set of quatrians, in something of a pastiche to Omar Kháyyam, and a selection of colloquial Persian metonyms so as to ensure authenticity - your post still does not relate to this and was thoroughly out of place.

[Sy_Accursed]

It wasn't out of place as it comment on the thread and the fact the way it was written made it hard to read while also satirising the fact of taking something relatively minute and turning it into a doomsday type proclamation.

 

It is perfectly justifiable to point out a thread is hard to read due to the way it is formatted as it allows the OP to edit and make it easier to read for future viewers thus rendering it easier to discuss and more productive; plus anyone with a decent grasp of satire and the English language can deduce a secondary meaning to my post that perfectly gave an on-topic response to the thread.