Sgs-Full Bandos-Claws-Dfs

[Guest Roast]

I have 44m at the moment and I'm considering buying either full bandos, claws or a dragonfire shield. I already have a saradomin godsword but I don't know which one to get. I had full bandos a little while ago but I sold it because I don't know which one of these things is the best for me. My stats are: 87 attack 84 strength 81 defence 84 constitution 70 prayer. Which one would be the best for me for all types of fighting, not just one specific type? I have a 44,000,000gp budget to spend on this, and I need to know which is the best thing to buy and that I will get the most use of. I would use this for all combat that I do. I'm slightly leaning towards the sgs but I don't know, I have one at the moment but if any of the other items are better I'll sell it and get that. If you could advise me on which one to get I would be very grateful for your reccomendation.

 

Thanks.

[Jmmy]

Sell SGS buy Bandos + Claws

 

Edit: Godswords are outdated. Even if you hate DG, slash with whip, crush with ZS/SS. SGS spec is also largely redundant, due to healing familiars, eee, ss etc. Plus your spec is much better used on DPS than healing.

 

Edit2: If you dont have a Fury or Zerker ring, those come first. 85+ Herblore is also a big priority.

[Hegelstad]

Sell everything you have, buy a fury and a berserker ring, use a verac skirt and fighter torso, spend the rest on herblore to the extremes.

[WizardStorm]

Bandos + claws, thats what I do, I use d defender & rapier with it tho, I don't use sgs/dfs much nowadays.

[Hegelstad]

Why not train herblore? Not doing so is just plain stupid. I also assume you have a berserker ring and a fury necklace? After that, get claws which you can lend out pretty easily.

[Hegelstad]

and considering that I'm not maxed, stuff like extremes wouldn't really help me as much as a good piece of equipment.

 

Wrong wrong wrong, combat skill boosts are a lot more efficient than the best piece of equipment. Quyneax has covered that many many times.

 

You also have enough money for 85 herblore as of today's price, and in the making of getting the levels you can also stew, so that when you are done training you will have a lot of extreme potions to use.

[Jmmy]

Maybe they are more efficient to you, but consider this: If I were to purchase 85 herblore, I would have no money or items left. Having nothing isn't exactly what I call efficient, plus, I don't want a herblore level, I just want to know which of these items is the best for me to buy and which I will get the most use out of for general combat. If I do ever go for a herblore level like that I'll do it later when my stats are better and I can afford it. I really don't want to go into a herblore efficiency argument here, just to find out which of these items I've listed is the best for me.

 

You're being ridiculous. He is giving you (correct) advice and you're giving any sort of real reason to counter it.

 

Anyway. Of those items you mentioned, probably claws. Bandos is also a good choice though. DFS is useless except at Wyverns, do not get one.

[pulli23]

for generic slaying claw is worse than eee normally (at least once you have a good combat familair and don't use bunyip). And even then korasis is very, very near in claw for usefullness (dmging spec).

 

You might even want bandos top instead of claws, not sure which of those is more usefull.

[LitterBug]

Maybe they are more efficient to you, but consider this: If I were to purchase 85 herblore, I would have no money or items left. Having nothing isn't exactly what I call efficient, plus, I don't want a herblore level, I just want to know which of these items is the best for me to buy and which I will get the most use out of for general combat. If I do ever go for a herblore level like that I'll do it later when my stats are better and I can afford it. I really don't want to go into a herblore efficiency argument here, just to find out which of these items I've listed is the best for me.

 

You're being ridiculous. He is giving you (correct) advice and you're giving any sort of real reason to counter it.

 

Anyway. Of those items you mentioned, probably claws. Bandos is also a good choice though. DFS is useless except at Wyverns, do not get one.

 

I didn't mean to sound ungrateful for the advice, I'm just saying that herblore really isn't an option for me. If claws are the best of those items, I'll get them, thanks. I presume I'd use them with a whip and some other item in the shield slot? If not a dfs then what would I use as a shield? A dragon defender?

 

It's kind of hard if you think about it to give up so much gear for just potions.

However, these potions will give you MORE of an increase in DPS then any one item.

 

If you absolutely don't want to spend all your money on extreme - you can just level up to super potions.

Then you can buy full bandos/ferocious ring.

 

A claw is decent but 20+ mil for just a spec weapon isn't a great idea when you have so many other things to work on.

Don't get a DFS, and I would sell the SGS for extra money.

[Hegelstad]

Maybe they are more efficient to you, but consider this: If I were to purchase 85 herblore, I would have no money or items left. Having nothing isn't exactly what I call efficient, plus, I don't want a herblore level, I just want to know which of these items is the best for me to buy and which I will get the most use out of for general combat. If I do ever go for a herblore level like that I'll do it later when my stats are better and I can afford it. I really don't want to go into a herblore efficiency argument here, just to find out which of these items I've listed is the best for me.

 

You're being ridiculous. He is giving you (correct) advice and you're giving any sort of real reason to counter it.

 

Anyway. Of those items you mentioned, probably claws. Bandos is also a good choice though. DFS is useless except at Wyverns, do not get one.

 

I didn't mean to sound ungrateful for the advice, I'm just saying that herblore really isn't an option for me. If claws are the best of those items, I'll get them, thanks. I presume I'd use them with a whip and some other item in the shield slot? If not a dfs then what would I use as a shield? A dragon defender?

If you absolutely don't want to spend all your money on extreme - you can just level up to super potions.

Then you can buy full bandos/ferocious ring.

 

Super pots are buyable mate, level up to extremes, it is cheaper than prayer at the moment. And also, do you have a fury and berserker ring, yes or no???

[Jmmy]

No I don't have a fury or a berzerker ring. I'll post a screenshot of my current gear and stats in a sec.

 

Zerker is same str bonus as BCP, but 15m cheaper.... There is no point in getting BCP if you dont have zerk.

 

Fury, is again cheaper than Bandos armour, and again gives better bonuses.

[EmileHeskey]

You might want to get a fighter's torso to go with the fury and zerker ring.

 

Fighter's torso + verac's skirt/bandos tassets + fury + slayer helm is good enough for slayer.

 

And maybe void too if you're just training normally without slayer.

[Hegelstad]

Fighter torso isn't worth the time spent getting it unless OP really loves Barbarian assault.

[pulli23]

Get a whip + dragon defender too..

As well as verac skirt + proselyte top (or maybe bandos/fighter)

[Obtaurian]

Slayer helm

Fury

Proselyte top

Verac's skirt

Dragon boots

Zerker ring

Fire > ardy cape (if rapier) > soul wars

whip

dragon defender

 

If you can afford it, replace proselyte top with BCP.

[Vex]

Berserker Ring > Amulet of Fury > Bandos Chest > Bandos Tasset

 

Dragon Claws become a LOT better once you have access to Kuradels dungeon as the +40 from ferocious ring effects all 4 hits. Prior to that you may aswell use Korasi's (if you have access to it, also you can borrow claws fairly easily off people)

 

Proselyte Top & Verac skirt will allow you to use Piety easily & at current prices costs about 40k an hour to maintain. Yet will speed up anything you kill by 20-25% which will earn you MORE than 40k per hour.

 

However I will reiterate previous points just for the sake of it. Unlocking Extremes (aside from turmoil) is the biggest Damage boost you can give your character.

 

Extremes + Glory/Proselyte is > No Extremes & Fury/Bandos/Zerker Ring etc

 

However at current prices it is easily possible to own a berserker ring/amulet of fury & get ~87 herblore.

[Hegelstad]

Slayer helm

Fury

Proselyte top

Verac's skirt

Dragon boots

Zerker ring

Fire > ardy cape (if rapier) > soul wars

whip

dragon defender

 

If you can afford it, replace proselyte top with BCP.

 

This sums equipment up very nicely.

[JPMC Mate]

OP, you may think selling your armour for potions is stupid, but think about this: Right now, herb supplies are much lower than usual. If you don't get Extremes asap, you will end up paying higher prices for herblore if you ever decide to get it up in the future. Also, Extremes will speed up slayer tasks even more than Supers. If you are really concerned with being broke, you can just get Dung up later and kill Frosts to make the $ back. Selling everything except Fury and Zerker, though, is not sacrificing much at all. I'm sure if you sell all your gear except the aforementioned items, buy a V Skirt and Prosy Top, you will still have good slayer and fighting gear.

[pulli23]

OP, you may think selling your armour for potions is stupid, but think about this: Right now, herb supplies are much lower than usual. If you don't get Extremes asap, you will end up paying higher prices for herblore if you ever decide to get it up in the future. Also, Extremes will speed up slayer tasks even more than Supers. If you are really concerned with being broke, you can just get Dung up later and kill Frosts to make the $ back. Selling everything except Fury and Zerker, though, is not sacrificing much at all. I'm sure if you sell all your gear except the aforementioned items, buy a V Skirt and Prosy Top, you will still have good slayer and fighting gear.

Well I have to say I suspect the herb ingredients to keep slowly falling: as of now there come more and more bots which farm herbs (especially the sorcerers garden bots seem to be the new "hit" in botland).

[JPMC Mate]

That may be true, but also this: the sooner he gets Extremes, the sooner he gets his $ back.

[Hegelstad]

OP, you may think selling your armour for potions is stupid, but think about this: Right now, herb supplies are much lower than usual. If you don't get Extremes asap, you will end up paying higher prices for herblore if you ever decide to get it up in the future. Also, Extremes will speed up slayer tasks even more than Supers. If you are really concerned with being broke, you can just get Dung up later and kill Frosts to make the $ back. Selling everything except Fury and Zerker, though, is not sacrificing much at all. I'm sure if you sell all your gear except the aforementioned items, buy a V Skirt and Prosy Top, you will still have good slayer and fighting gear.

Well I have to say I suspect the herb ingredients to keep slowly falling: as of now there come more and more bots which farm herbs (especially the sorcerers garden bots seem to be the new "hit" in botland).

 

I'm rather sure Jagex will at some point stand up against the botters for real, lately they have been running live banning sessions at various popular bot sites, and a report at RSOF says that over 6000 accounts have been banned by this method very lately. I'd say get it now when its cheap, better safe than never.

[Nifflin]

Look at my stats and consider this, I own none of the items you mentioned.

 

They are a waste, at this point in the game skills boost combat capabilities much more then gear does. The only thing on your list that might be worth owning is claws.

 

Sell the SGS, it is horrible as a primary weapon and as a special weapon. I think I remember reading that dragon scimitar has better dps.

 

Extremes >>>>>>>>>>>> Fury + zerker ring > claws > bandos

 

Edit: If you sold SGS you would probably be able to afford extremes and a zerker ring.

[JPMC Mate]

I agree completely with the above post. Buying Extremes is a worthwhile investment as it increases dps more than Supers.

[Quyneax]

The base slayer gear is as follows (alternatives in brackets):

• [For all slayer monsters except those mentioned under other weapons] Chaotic rapier (whip)
  
• Bandos body + legs (Verac's skirt with either fighter torso or proselyte top)
  
• [Depending on prayer/accuracy needs] Fire cape/Soul Wars cape/Ardougne cloak 3
  
• Barrows gloves (your best rfd gloves, at least rune)
  
• Dragon boots (rune boots)
  
• Amulet of fury (glory)
  
• Dragon defender (rune defender)
  
• Berserker ring (i)/ferocious ring if slaying in Kuradal's Dungeon (berserker ring, warrior ring)
  
• [Most important] Full slayer helmet.
  
• [For magic defence on waterfiends/aquanites] Karil's top and elite void skirt (black dragonhide body and chaps)
  
• [Crush attacks to use on waterfiends] Chaotic maul (Saradomin sword, Zamorakian spear)
  
• [stab attacks for higher-levelled dragons, when not using rapier] Korasi's sword (Zamorakian spear, leaf-bladed sword)
  
• Task-specific items such as mirror shields, antifire shields/potions, elemental shields, rock hammers, crystal chimes
  
• Cannon (optional, up to personal preference)
  

Slayer setups generally emphasise strength bonus, which increases the average damage of each succesful hit (slayer monsters usually having rather low defence, hitting is not a problem). Secondly, prayer bonus is important to keep the cost of prayer potions down (as you slay with piety on, to increase the speed of your kills. This is cost-effective and highly recommended). As a rule of thumb, +15 prayer bonus or above is good, but don't overdo it (anything above +25 is a waste). Defence and accuracy bonus are usually not fretted over (any defence bonus over 200 will do; if you get hit too often you should be using a protection prayer). Dagganoth, black demon, lesser demon, hellhound, bloodveld and spectre tasks should be cannoned, as it dramatically increases xp rates (although it costs a bit).

 

Some notes on gear: You'll want a fury and a berserker ring before you get bandos plate, and get that before tassets. You'll want accuracy bonus on higher-levelled dragons; if using stab attacks (which you should) you can use the Ardougne cloak 3 which provides you with +6 stab and +6 prayer bonus. Torso + sw cape and fire cape + proselyte are common cheap top/cape combinations; the former is better.

 

Some levels to get for slayer (in approximate order but I'm not sure on the summoning):

• 68 summoning - bunyip
  
• 81 dungeoneering (you need 2 million xp, which takes you to level 80, but allowing some tokens for the scroll of life) - rapier
  
• 89 herblore (85 with a +4 stew boost) - extreme potions, superantifires
  
• 95 prayer - turmoil and soul split
  
• 88 summoning - unicorn
  
• 96 herblore (91 with a +5 stew boost) - overload
  
• 99 summoning - steel titan
  

I'm sure I missed something but this is most of it.

 

I agree that extremes > gear. Look at the max hits for +122 strength bonus and no extremes (466 with whip on task, no fire cape/imbued ring, piety) versus 114 strength bonus with extremes (470).

[gixer66]

My 2 cents worth:

 

Get EE / 68 Summon > Sell SGS. Godswords are truely awful main weapons.

 

Dont worry too much about getting Uni as the above heals well enough for most tasks. realistically 96 Summon should be your goal, as the Yak is THE best fam in the game.

 

Buy Fury>Zerker>Extremes.

 

Tasseys are a waste of money for the +2 Strength Bonus. Use V skirt with BCP. I 'd rather have the extra Defence and Prayer Bonus the V skirt gives.

 

D defender is better than A DFS against nearly every melee monster, I only use a DFS on Wyverns, and when Range / Mage tanking.

 

Claws are next to useless, EE is a much better option as a spec weapon.

 

Gix