Wow, just wow. I'm not sure whether to be angry at the police, smack the mother, or smack the girls in the face. That is pathetic.

I think his mom is trying to hush it up so hes not gonna say a thing.

 

Or the fact she's trying to not make it a national incident.

 

Too late for that. The fact that it was not acted upon made it even worse.

Apparently Anonymous has been harrasing the police and the three girls after they tracked down their information. One of the few times I agree with Anon...

 

Seriously though, as a high schooler who often associates with middle schoolers (bus rides ftl...), I CAN say that kids, by that age, understand certain consequences, especially when it is a case of nudity, molestation, etc. The double standard stems, I think, from a deep current of puritanism that has existed in this country since the Puritans themselves lived here. Nobody wants to touch the topic of sex, gender identity, gender roles or what ever else might be considered "sexual" and therefore "indecent." Therefore, boys (who see, from the time they are old enough to watch TV, the strong, idealized male as one who can get laid every night) percieve and are perceived differently than girls (who, by the same channel of communication, see that the idealized woman is one who both is chaste AND promiscuous). This has been beaten into us since we were little. Everything from the clothes we are made to wear (see here for more information), to the toys we play with (G.I. Joe as the ideal man, Barbie as the ideal woman) enforce these gender norms. These then manfiest themselves at an older age. Boys are considered "pathetic," "nerdy," etc. if they aren't banging some girl; yet, girls are "[bleep]," "[bleep]s" and what have you if they do and "prudes" if they don't. On a hormonal level, this is caused by the difference in testosterone levels, which have been linked to overt sexual actions and sexual aggresiveness, as well as risk taking.

 

Considering all of this, it is really no surprise this happened like it did. Many phsycologists believe that women do, in fact, rape and molest, but not quite as frequently as men. This is because men tend to: one, be more directly aggresive in sexual endeavors; and two, are more willing to take the risk that is molestation, rape, or even consentual sex.

 

As far as the legality goes, I think that the girls are old enough to warrant legal action (again, this goes back to my personal experience with children that age; they DO know). I know boys at my school that have been prosecuted and sentenced for possesion of child pornograhpy (pics of their girlfriends, their friends' girlfriends, etc.). I've yet to see one case ANYWHERE that a girl has been prosecuted for production and distribution; or a boy for the same should he send the images (which does happen rarely; men are visual creatures, however, and desire images of nudity more than women).

 

It's a sad, disgusting quagmire that exists in our culture that needs to be adressed...I personally always make a point to view any sexually active girl that is honest about her activies and desires with respect; and any girl that is what I call a "closet [bleep]" (I use the offensive term intentionally here) with disrespect. Also, I have no respect for the guys that brag about the girls they've had, or disrespect "prude" or "[bleep]ty" girls; but respect guys who are honest and, most importantly, RESPECTFUL of their partner(s).

 

Would it be too much to ask for every other person to do the same?

Time to organize over 9000 people to call in the police station reporting the crime and child protective services reporting the mother.

Time to organize over 9000 people to call in the police station reporting the crime and child protective services reporting the mother.

 

Glad to hear Anon is on the case tbh. Hope it comes to something :mellow:

Those damn girls always!

I kind of don't see the logic in charging a CHILD for possessing CHILD porn... I mean, that's a VERY hefty charge I'm pretty sure. And if the naked pictures or whatever are of people the same age as the owner of these pictures... that just seems really illogical, I'm not sure how to word it. >.< If it comes to distributing it on the internet, that should definitely be charged with SOMETHING, but not child porn in that case...

 

As for this particular case, I really think something more needs to happen than them being punished by their own parents. That sounds very lax. However I also don't think they should be held accountable for the REST OF THEIR LIVES for something they did when they were 13.. I'm not sure how littler kids these days, or their parents, perceive the internet. They likely didn't think ahead about how big of a deal posting a video on the internet can be. And unless someone impressed the vastness of the internet on them, they wouldn't have had any way to know.

 

I don't really know what I think. I think some people are overreacting on this thread. Yes it was terrible. But they're still just kids.

I'm 15, those girls would have been barely a year younger than me. I promise you they knew fully well what they were doing. I honestly can't think of anyone my age who wouldn't have realized that doing something like that was a huge deal. The whole "They didn't know what they were doing" point is really invalid here.

I'm 15, those girls would have been barely a year younger than me. I promise you they knew fully well what they were doing. I honestly can't think of anyone my age who wouldn't have realized that doing something like that was a huge deal. The whole "They didn't know what they were doing" point is really invalid here.

 

Exactly (I feel like I've said this a lot on this thread) I'm about 1 year younger than them and i knew that you can't really go around doing that a looong time ago.

Yeah, I'd have known that stripping someone and video taping it was wrong since I was about 6. I probably knew it was illegal and had hefty charges by the time I was 11. (As most people would)

Just because you all matured quickly doesn't mean everyone does.

Just because you all matured quickly doesn't mean everyone does.

 

At what age do we stop and say 'these girls should know better"? 18?

Just because you all matured quickly doesn't mean everyone does.

 

At what age do we stop and say 'these girls should know better"? 18?

Of course! Afterall, 18 is the magic age where you can live on your own and join the military.

 

But don't try to drink, that'd be illegal.

Just because you all matured quickly doesn't mean everyone does.

Everybody my age that I could possibly think of would also know that's wrong. Really, it doesn't take much to realize.

Just because you all matured quickly doesn't mean everyone does.

Everybody my age that I could possibly think of would also know that's wrong. Really, it doesn't take much to realize.

 

Knowing you shouldn't do something doesn't mean you have the self control or forethought to not do it in every case.

 

Anyway, I do agree they knew what they were doing, I just think some are being a little harsh.

Just because you all matured quickly doesn't mean everyone does.

Everybody my age that I could possibly think of would also know that's wrong. Really, it doesn't take much to realize.

 

Knowing you shouldn't do something doesn't mean you have the self control or forethought to not do it in every case.

 

Anyway, I do agree they knew what they were doing, I just think some are being a little harsh.

 

If they were guys imagine the outcry that would exist if they didnt get punished.

 

There would be tons of feminists groups saying we allow this cause of "rape culture" [something i hear them say anyways]. I can just imagine the outcry.

 

I know, but we can't sink to their level.

Asking for fairness and charging the girls isn't going down to their level at all. It is asking for justice and equality between both sexes to happen.

Asking for fairness and charging the girls isn't going down to their level at all. It is asking for justice and equality between both sexes to happen.

The only way now would be to have all future cases have minimal punishments, but we already know that if we ask for that then we're "rape apologists" flexing our egos in a male dominated society...

Just because you all matured quickly doesn't mean everyone does.

Everybody my age that I could possibly think of would also know that's wrong. Really, it doesn't take much to realize.

 

Knowing you shouldn't do something doesn't mean you have the self control or forethought to not do it in every case.

 

Anyway, I do agree they knew what they were doing, I just think some are being a little harsh.

 

If they were guys imagine the outcry that would exist if they didnt get punished.

 

There would be tons of feminists groups saying we allow this cause of "rape culture" [something i hear them say anyways]. I can just imagine the outcry.

 

I know, but we can't sink to their level.

[cabbage]. Any criminal we punish is going to be "swooping to their level" now? They were in 8th grade, ONE YEAR FROM GOING INTO HIGH SCHOOL. How can you tell me and all of us, when I SEE 8TH GRADERS EVERY DAY TO SCHOOL that they 'don't know it was wrong'.

 

Let them suffer everything they rightfully deserve to, slap the mother on the face for not pressing charges, and kick the police chief out of office for not pressing charges himself.

Just because you all matured quickly doesn't mean everyone does.

Everybody my age that I could possibly think of would also know that's wrong. Really, it doesn't take much to realize.

 

Knowing you shouldn't do something doesn't mean you have the self control or forethought to not do it in every case.

 

Anyway, I do agree they knew what they were doing, I just think some are being a little harsh.

 

If they were guys imagine the outcry that would exist if they didnt get punished.

 

There would be tons of feminists groups saying we allow this cause of "rape culture" [something i hear them say anyways]. I can just imagine the outcry.

 

I know, but we can't sink to their level.

[cabbage]. Any criminal we punish is going to be "swooping to their level" now? They were in 8th grade, ONE YEAR FROM GOING INTO HIGH SCHOOL. How can you tell me and all of us, when I SEE 8TH GRADERS EVERY DAY TO SCHOOL that they 'don't know it was wrong'.

 

Let them suffer everything they rightfully deserve to, slap the mother on the face for not pressing charges, and kick the police chief out of office for not pressing charges himself.

 

Did I say they didn't know it was wrong? No. I said that due to their age and immaturity, it is likely that they do not have the self control/forethought to keep themselves from doing stupid stuff. I never said they shouldn't be charged, only that some were being a little harsh on them.

 

I did not say any criminal we punish is sinking to their level. I implied that ANY person, no matter the gender, should not be punished with such serious charges at that age.

 

Let them suffer everything they rightfully deserve, slap the mother in the face for not pressing charges, and fire the police chief - all agreed. All I am saying is that I don't think they should be charged quite as seriously as most people seem to think they should be.

 

Just because you all matured quickly doesn't mean everyone does.

Everybody my age that I could possibly think of would also know that's wrong. Really, it doesn't take much to realize.

 

Knowing you shouldn't do something doesn't mean you have the self control or forethought to not do it in every case.

 

Anyway, I do agree they knew what they were doing, I just think some are being a little harsh.

 

If they were guys imagine the outcry that would exist if they didnt get punished.

 

There would be tons of feminists groups saying we allow this cause of "rape culture" [something i hear them say anyways]. I can just imagine the outcry.

 

I know, but we can't sink to their level.

[cabbage]. Any criminal we punish is going to be "swooping to their level" now? They were in 8th grade, ONE YEAR FROM GOING INTO HIGH SCHOOL. How can you tell me and all of us, when I SEE 8TH GRADERS EVERY DAY TO SCHOOL that they 'don't know it was wrong'.

 

Let them suffer everything they rightfully deserve to, slap the mother on the face for not pressing charges, and kick the police chief out of office for not pressing charges himself.

 

 

Did I say they didn't know it was wrong? No. I said that due to their age and immaturity, it is likely that they do not have the self control/forethought to keep themselves from doing stupid stuff. I never said they shouldn't be charged, only that some were being a little harsh on them.

 

I did not say any criminal we punish is sinking to their level. I implied that ANY person, no matter the gender, should not be punished with such serious charges at that age.

 

Let them suffer everything they rightfully deserve, slap the mother in the face for not pressing charges, and fire the police chief - all agreed. All I am saying is that I don't think they should be charged quite as seriously as most people seem to think they should be.

In defense of that stance, here's an article about how juvenile sex offenders are unlikely to repeat their crimes in comparison to adults committing similar crimes, and the harm that full prosecution can do to a young person's life.

In defense of that stance, here's an article about how juvenile sex offenders are unlikely to repeat their crimes in comparison to adults committing similar crimes, and the harm that full prosecution can do to a young person's life.

 

This is exactly in line with what I was thinking. Surely someone this young can receive help rather than be charged for the rest of their lives as being sex offenders. And someone on the thread said they should be EXECUTED? For flips sake, is that ever an over reaction.

In defense of that stance, here's an article about how juvenile sex offenders are unlikely to repeat their crimes in comparison to adults committing similar crimes, and the harm that full prosecution can do to a young person's life.

 

This is exactly in line with what I was thinking. Surely someone this young can receive help rather than be charged for the rest of their lives as being sex offenders. And someone on the thread said they should be EXECUTED? For flips sake, is that ever an over reaction.

Why shouldn't they be charged? If it were boys doing that to a girl, they'd be facing multiple charges and be marked as sex offenders for the rest of their lives.

In defense of that stance, here's an article about how juvenile sex offenders are unlikely to repeat their crimes in comparison to adults committing similar crimes, and the harm that full prosecution can do to a young person's life.

 

This is exactly in line with what I was thinking. Surely someone this young can receive help rather than be charged for the rest of their lives as being sex offenders. And someone on the thread said they should be EXECUTED? For flips sake, is that ever an over reaction.

Why shouldn't they be charged? If it were boys doing that to a girl, they'd be facing multiple charges and be marked as sex offenders for the rest of their lives.

 

Which means what they and I are saying is NOBODY should be charged with child porn anything, regardless of gender. That's what my sinking to their level remark was about.

In defense of that stance, here's an article about how juvenile sex offenders are unlikely to repeat their crimes in comparison to adults committing similar crimes, and the harm that full prosecution can do to a young person's life.

 

This is exactly in line with what I was thinking. Surely someone this young can receive help rather than be charged for the rest of their lives as being sex offenders. And someone on the thread said they should be EXECUTED? For flips sake, is that ever an over reaction.

Why shouldn't they be charged? If it were boys doing that to a girl, they'd be facing multiple charges and be marked as sex offenders for the rest of their lives.

 

Which means what they and I are saying is NOBODY should be charged with child porn anything, regardless of gender. That's what my sinking to their level remark was about.

 

There still needs to be justice done here. Granted, not "sex offender registry" extreme, but they need to be punished for their actions in some way. I don't care who does it, whether it be the police or parents, but someone needs to invoke justice.