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[Tui]

Yes, at least it did a couple months ago when I actually played.

 

 

This looks like it hurts:

 

[Quyneax]

Lol, ouch.

 

Incendiary shot got changed to a damage value similar to Meteor Strike I think, Jagex has slowly been removing all %health effects in favour of %weapon damage. So yeah, there goes that idea :(.

[Thai_tong]

Ranged is great in dg, get a high tier bow

Hardly.

Having both an attack range over one, and dps equal to primal 2h, and frag shot/ricochet?

 

Unless there is some weird calculation going on, you have your 2h at 2360 damage, average speed (393/tick) and shortbow at 1967 damage, fast speed (393/tick). Given that there's tons of ranged weak stuff in dg that is also very annoying (entangle, summons) I'd say it's certainly worth using a bow along with 2h. As always if you have unequal tiers it's different.

Melee has better abilities and builds adreneline faster. 2h accuracy on range weak monsters is almost 100%. You really can just ignore accuracy in dg when comparing same-tier weapons.

[Bxpprod]

Selling stupid crew I don't need or want

[Quyneax]

Melee has:

+Slice - 125% +10% crit

+Sever - 188%

Dismember - 200%

Smash - 125%

Cleave - 125% per target

Assault - ??? not given in-game in % weapon damage, very high anyway

Whirlwind - 188%

(Berserk)

 

Ranged has:

Piercing Shot - 125%

Dazing Shot - 120%

Frag Shot - reduced damage in PvM (hits only 3x), still hits ~950 min, ~5k max depending on movement. Piercing shot hits 2239 crit, which is about what I average with frag, so like a faster Dismember.

Ricochet - 100% per target - easier to hit targets than with Cleave

Snap Shot - idk, over 250% I think?

Rapid Fire - 94% per 2 ticks? description says seconds but that seems wrong

Bombard - 219%

(Deadshot)

 

So overall, melee has a little better basic dps, ranged has a bit better tresholds. My preferred strategy in dg is to use the best dps basics of each (So frag shot > richochet > sever) and for example alternate rapid fire and assault on Behemoth etc.. It's pretty good.

 

@Bxp: I recently dismissed my 5th tiger, now I'm buying all Pincers crew hunting for traits :P.

[Saradomin_Mage]

Assault is 219% per 2 ticks, 4 times. Rapid fire is 94% per 1 tick, 8 times.

[Sinkhan]

Are the combat scrimshaws worth using outside of bossing? If not I'll probably just use all my bones to make tradeable scrims and finally get some money lol

[Quyneax]

Well, you have Vampirism which is purely defensive so by definition limited to bossing. Cruelty and Elements increase dps, but are probably too costly (cruelty also requires that your target has a ton of health for the full bleed damage to take effect). The crit scrimshaws increase dps as well, but again cost, and overkill.

[Thai_tong]

According to dgs, to maximise hex's dps you should alternate between auto attacks and abilities. This makes you gain adreneline slowly and use fewer thresh holds. Rapid fire's effect is exaggerated because the monster will probably die before you finish the ability.

[Tui]

Hex nerf. Sag you shouldn't do that iirc. So adren is the same.

Melee thres are easier to use. Whirlwind is more likely to hit more targets. Cleave is not great for melee but (apparently) the basics are better overall. Pre-hex nerf I was using hex as basically my sole weapon for a few weeks after dg monster's def was lowered which made hex the highest dps almost always, even with difficulties in using. But I don't think it's really worth using ranged much anymore.

 

Dismember's "damage %" varies as it depends on whether you use things like overloads, pray, etc. for the other abilities, since none of those affect dismember. But 200% sounds about right.

[Quyneax]

200% is no pot/pray, equivalent (it hits 125%, which is equal to 50-200%, all abilities having a 25% of max min hit). I have no problems using bombard really, nor frag shot or ricochet, some gds are definitely faster with ranged due to the range of the weapon as well. Nobody's debating that melee basics are better, but the difference isn't big enough that ranged is worse than more defensive binds. Not like bind slots are useful otherwise :( (now if there were blood bracelets...). Plus with your necro/astea/behemoth/kal'ger it pays to have a ranged weapon :P.

 

@Thai: same goes for Assault really, most things die before it finishes. Not the t10-t11 things though, and not bosses. Very good abilities overall.

[Quyneax]

Wooo 800k to 116, might get it today. Also got a tiger with slayer trait (yay for recruiting all crew!). No luck getting primal knives (super ninja binds = daggers knives hood bn, buying composite bind for dw). Also no scroll today, but finally a plate mission (not even a special -.-).

 

Really all boot+glove combos should be one bind, all weapon + shield/oh combos as well. Longbow users get free shield binds, 2h users get free dps binds, so why not 1h weapon users?

[Saradomin_Mage]

(super ninja binds = daggers knives hood bn, buying composite bind for dw)

Oh shit ... I *need* to get these now ffs

[Quyneax]

Been hunting for a while but no luck :(.

 

(p.s. 179 samid glove charges left, rank 1 esteem getting closer)

 

Edit: oh primal dagger, woot.

[Quyneax]

Fair bit of dg today, got 116 :). Also hit 1m tokens, and 70m xp ofc.

 

About Incendiary Shot: managed to hit a 4300something with it (not gulega), definitely neither cap nor 40% health, definite proof it's not 40% anymore :(.

[Quyneax]

 

Yay ninja binds complete. Thanks to everyone hunting with me :P. The off-hands are soloed.

 

 

Edit: Might as well add idea for runecrafting. So:

 

- Increase xp gain from altar-based runecrafting including ZMI. Bring the xp/rune up to whatever is needed for a decent xp/h - 80k and up for nature, law, death, blood and soul.

- Remove floating essence from the runespan.

- Allow noted essence to be used in place of the current stackable runespan essence (virtual npc runners). Require pure essence to siphon higher nodes and essence creatures.

- Runespan provided regular runes.

- Add soul altar.

- Reduce runespan xp by 20%.

- Award magic xp for using platforms.

- Mining essence awards noted essence (virtual npc runners again).

 

Essence creatures still provide essence.

 

The idea is that some people afk at span (which means they produce more essence than they use up) and some people do high-attention rcing at altars which is higher xp and profit per hour.

 

There may/will be a need for a rune sink to keep profits decently high. Runes could be used to enchant armour, for example, and removed mostly from spellcasting.

[Abdulla]

You know what I'm just going to make an app for you for the jagex dev team, you can't stop meeeeee.

[Hedgehog]

http://www.jagex.com/careers/jobs/oidGWfwR

 

I plan to apply once I graduate (assuming RuneScape is still around). We can be work buddies :D

[Thai_tong]

No dont you'll go insane from the incompetent coding thats already in place. On the bright side you might not have to use java after the html5 update and you can do research easily.

[Quyneax]

- Good programming or game scripting skills (basic C++ or Java or game scripting).

- Proven track record of content development within the games industry.

 

Lol :D. My programming is abysmal and I've never built a game, just done some minor modding on M&B which is ages ago.

 

I don't want to work at Jagex anyways, if I went into the MMORPG world (which would be cool) I'd go for a sort of M&B melee + ranged & mounted combat system + dragons (in the air and underwater as well) + text-based magic in instanced language system (copyright please, my idea!).

 

Edit: posted rc suggestion on hlf [qfc]260-261-882-64867308[/qfc].

[brunokiller]

- Good programming or game scripting skills (basic C++ or Java or game scripting).

- Proven track record of content development within the games industry.

 

Lol :D. My programming is abysmal and I've never built a game, just done some minor modding on M&B which is ages ago.

 

I don't want to work at Jagex anyways, if I went into the MMORPG world (which would be cool) I'd go for a sort of M&B melee + ranged & mounted combat system + dragons (in the air and underwater as well) + text-based magic in instanced language system (copyright please, my idea!).

 

Edit: posted rc suggestion on hlf [qfc]260-261-882-64867308[/qfc].

 

 

Can try to start in QA and move up. many jmods seem to have done that

[Abdulla]

- Good programming or game scripting skills (basic C++ or Java or game scripting).

- Proven track record of content development within the games industry.

 

Lol :D. My programming is abysmal and I've never built a game, just done some minor modding on M&B which is ages ago.

 

I don't want to work at Jagex anyways, if I went into the MMORPG world (which would be cool) I'd go for a sort of M&B melee + ranged & mounted combat system + dragons (in the air and underwater as well) + text-based magic in instanced language system (copyright please, my idea!).

 

Edit: posted rc suggestion on hlf [qfc]260-261-882-64867308[/qfc].

 

 

Can try to start in QA and move up. many jmods seem to have done that

Yep. Companies always want to hire from within than from outside.

[Hedgehog]

Not to mention that a proven track record isn't even necessary. "Requirements" like that are just used to scare away a lot of applicants. Just show that you know what you're doing when you get an interview.

[Fallstar]

<3 Mount and Blade Warband :D

 

I spent about 2 months playing that last summer when I 'quit' RS, mostly the Native Expansion mod.

[Quyneax]

I must admit I never got into the multiplayer much, but it has a combat system that is at once simple, intuitive and still pretty hard to do well (manual blocking is soo much harder than shield, there's an incentive to use shields RS will *never* be able to compete with), plus you can make it as complex as you want with more possible swings etc.. I think the animations may need a Prince of Persia-style makeover though, and I'd like to be able to, idk, actually climb ladders? Still an excellent base for an MMORPG imo.