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[Quyneax]

Got hybrid boots :). Much earlier than expected, but then I lost count (twice). ~1400 points in now, since the first time I lost count?

 

Sent the last scroll for rocktail soup at 95%. Hoping I can send these spice missions without wasting the resources again soon. Soups aren't that profitable, maybe 2k each, but that's still 60k/voyage (compare bones at ~450k, chi at ~750k).

[chenw]

Where are you getting that 600k from Q? 30*2k = 60k, unless you know something I dont? :P

[Quyneax]

Wait... I think I might've borrowed a zero from somewhere.

 

Edit: fixed. So caught up in the prices for bones/chi I never noticed how worthless spices are by comparison. We really need hp-boosting spicy overloads :(.

[brunokiller]

Got hybrid boots :). Much earlier than expected, but then I lost count (twice). ~1400 points in now, since the first time I lost count?

 

Sent the last scroll for rocktail soup at 95%. Hoping I can send these spice missions without wasting the resources again soon. Soups aren't that profitable, maybe 2k each, but that's still 60k/voyage (compare bones at ~450k, chi at ~750k).

 

I got them way earlier than I expected them to, took another 300ish games till I started getting them like candy.

[Miss Lioness]

Hi Q!

How is the universe running?

[Quyneax]

On time ;).

 

@Bruno: I fear this may be the same.

 

Woo data dump:

[hide]867 main hand

433 off hand

No other boosts

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1624 slice crit

410 min hit no equi

Havoc/decimate too

 

1300 punish crit

1754 punish crit on stun

 

1221 *3 frenzy crit (comboable)

 

712 slice min hit w/ equi

1317 slice max hit w/ equi noncrit

 

2846 *4 assault crit

 

2444sever crit

 

1040 frenzy crit

 

2444 *4 destroy crit

 

2340 first frenzy crit

2600 second frenzy crit

2860 third frenzy hit

3120 last frenzy crit

 

260*4 slaughter bleed min

647*4 slaughter bleed max

 

270 * 6 dismember bleed

 

5*850 massacre bleed

2550 massacre crit

 

5200 overpower crit

3261 min hit w/ equi

2927 w/o equi

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(pre-analysis conclusions)

Equilibrium does not affect ability critical hits.

It does appear to affect % weapon damage non-crit hits, but it does not change the range by 25% of the critical hit. Maybe it changes the range by 25% of the variable part.

It does not appear to affect things that hit a certain range the same way it affects % weapon damage hits. It does not affect Dismember (always the same hit), it does not affect Slaughter minimum hit (but I didn't test many slaughters, did get fairly close to predicted max of 2.5*260=650 with equi but not without), and it does appear to affect Overpower though I only tested a few dozen so that's easily wrong.

Furthermore, it appears that Havoc and Decimate are 125% damage abilities, not 100% as is suggested by the description.

[chenw]

Expected, since equilibrium doesn't affect dps of your hits (assuming an extremely large HP pool ofc) and Ability crits do not vary, which makes it better than expected actually.

 

btw Q

1. would it be ok if I steal your data for my own analysis? :P

2. could you kindly do one for Chatoci longs/rapiers? :D

[Quyneax]

You may borrow it, and I may or may not do that, depending on boredom and general availability for dg etc.. No promises, but I'll see.

 

Edit: For overpower you'd expect 2600-5200, and 3250-4550 with equilibrium, which actually matches what I got pretty well, except for the lower hit without equi, which is the least tested. The data doesn't tell, but I recall hitting a 5000something noncrit w/o equi but none with.

 

For slice, you have 410-1624 w/o and 712-1317 with equi, which actually matches the expectation:

 

(1624 - 410) / 4 = 303.5

 

410 + 303.5 = 713.5

1624 - 303.5 = 1320,5

 

If the min hit is exactly 25% of the max:

406 + 304.5 = 710.5

1624 - 304.5 = 1319.5

 

Which matches slightly better. Lowest hit I got was 712, which doesn't really match the 410 min hit.

 

So yeah, 25% of the variable part seems accurate.

 

That means massacre with equilibrium and 10% crit deals at least 4250 bleed damage, plus 1115-2071 initial and 2550 crit, for an average of 4250+1688 which is 5938. That's very, very reliable, especially with drygores to drive them. Note that the initial hit is 850 + 2550 max, so lower than overpower, but your second hit can be with Sever which would be 850 + 2444 max, basically twice the same. Meteor would be 3575 - 4225.

 

O and frenzy is like another Assault. So you have your Destroy > Assault > Adren pot > Frenzy combo I guess?

 

 

 

Ports: Finished soup scroll. Made 250 soups.

[chenw]

Your value on Punish basically confirmed, at least for Chaotic Claw, that Fastest weapon damage are like clockwork, the actual damage match up exactly with theory, which was what I found for Rune Claws and Dragon Scimitars as well (give or take 1 point for rounding error).

 

I'd be interested in seeing if Chaotic Long/Rapier will show the same anomoly as Rune/Dragon Longs. (Just the crit for punish will be enough).

[Quyneax]

I think that since 4-tick weapons get no speed multiplier to ability damage, the rounding and adding strength level doesn't change things.

 

1632 Slice crit with rapiers. 1079 main hand 539 off hand.

1305 Punish crit.

272 Dismember hit.

5224 Overpower crit.

 

1088 Slice crit with only rapier. 1079 main hand.

870 Punish crit.

181 Dismember hit.

3484 Overpower crit.

 

1640 Slice crit with maul. 1936 two hand.

1321 Punish crit.

273 Dismember hit.

5248 Overpower crit.

 

Don't forget that my strength level is 19 higher than the weapon tier.

 

Also hit a 2.6k something Overpower hit with rapiers. Quite a bit lower than the previous lowest. Suggests that equilibrium definitely works on Overpower.

[Hedgehog]

 

- MCL

[Quyneax]

Woooooooooooooooooooooooo :D.

[Miss Lioness]

 

- MCL

 

So you mean slayer task rates?

[Hedgehog]

Yep

[Miss Lioness]

Epic! Then we'll finally know what list is best to block right?!?

 

Sorry for offtopicness, but at the same time this is not because Q is everywhere and has to do with everything!

[Fallstar]

Mod Chris L #2

[Hedgehog]

Epic! Then we'll finally know what list is best to block right?!?

 

Sorry for offtopicness, but at the same time this is not because Q is everywhere and has to do with everything!

We already do :P This will just allow us to be more certain when new tasks are released.

[Miss Lioness]

Epic! Then we'll finally know what list is best to block right?!?

 

Sorry for offtopicness, but at the same time this is not because Q is everywhere and has to do with everything!

We already do :P This will just allow us to be more certain when new tasks are released.

 

Ooh shoot =d... mind Pm'ing me a recent slayer guide then ;d? But Perhaps that will get outdated again in 2 weeks =/

[Hedgehog]

Thai posted the XPW slayer model in H&A, it's a little out of date though.

[Miss Lioness]

Thai posted the XPW slayer model in H&A, it's a little out of date though.

 

I'll probs wait till after the next combat update =/. Things probs going to change then again =S

[Ambler]

(The void *may* have been with torva boots)

Void isn't actually that much better... :blink:

Dual drygore maces, no prayer/potion boosts.

 

Unarmed (Bar crit boosters)

2713 w/ Destroy

3161 w/ Assault

 

Frenzy:

3465 crit with last hit (Unarmed)

3427 crit with penultimate hit in torva (So crit will be 3769(.7)? Ended up Critting 3738... :blink:

3199 crit with second hit in void 3810 last hit. (No Torva boots)

[Quyneax]

Thanks Ambler :).

 

Finally rolled the plate mission I need for tetsu helmet & all armour sets. Also at 46 scrolls now :).

 

In my quest for supercrew, I rolled a harem with multi-talented and a really sucky 10k combat captain.

[Quyneax]

 

Full superior armour sets :).

[chenw]

As Tycho would say "Die a painful, slow, pitiful death".

 

Congratulations!

[Sinkhan]

Full superior armour sets :).

 

Now if they were only useful