Investigating the Wise Old Man

[1alebcay]

Just a thought, you know how kingdom management works, well maybe JAGeX is going to do something like that here. From what I can tell the first gods (Armadyl and Zaros) were not any certain type of being. The current gods seem to be Mahjarrat. Maybe the next set of gods will be humans. The WOM will be the good god and some one else will rise up to be the bad god. Perhaps even the player can rise up to do that. (Ok, that would be a little far fetched.)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edit: Just a thought, maybe we could try meeting in world 96 today. That is the world where the TET event is going to be held. Just a reminder the meeting is at 7pm GMT. (2pm EST, 1pm CST, 12pm MST and 11am PST)

[mememe513]

Guthixians (we really need a better word for them)

 

 

 

Followers of Guthix? Guthixi? Guthixans? Guthans(lol)?But this one makes some sense considering the proposed connection between the Barrows bros and WOM.

[1alebcay]

By the way I finaly got around to uploading the meeting one March 3. If you need any more info about it you can talk to KC... Watch the video to find out about what I am talking about. http://files.filefront.com/3_3_07rar/;7 ... einfo.html

[Randox]

I do hope were not basing Saradomin being a mahjaraat all on him being from frenaske. If you are than were definatly drwing false conclusions. Freneskea is just another rewalm, proboly with its own gods and there has to be atleast 1 other realm out there because I know at least 1 of the gods is not from frenaskea (It might be Guthix). Also, and am deeply under the impresin that most of the Gods are also from freneskea yet are not mahjaraat. I think that the mahjaraat are a group of higher humans/superior humans that live longer, cast better magic, and the ones that used dragon armour and weapons proboly had greater strenth.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Note: I do not know if any mahjarrat actualy used dragon items, I do know however that dragon armour and weapons came here fom frenskea. Also, maby all humans in freskae are like the mahjarrat (explaning why there called a tribe not a race maby), and there all superior to the humans inGielenor.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'll be at the meeting today, unless my computer decides to blow itself up.

 

 

 

And I don't expect you all to agree with me but I am compelled to tell you what I know and what I think I know. Now I must go walk the dog.

[KCHughes]

I looked back through the old letters and found that Zaros was probably not a Mahjarrat at all. It said that the Mahjarrat, when they first came to Gielinor, decided to follow Icthlarin. Then Zaros arrived from Freneskae (doesn't mention him being a Mahjarrat) and the Mahjarrat abandon Icthlarin and follow Zaros, whom they think will not enslave them the way Icthlarin did. However, Zaros *did* enslave them, during the first God War, and many of the Mahjarrat revolted, led by Zamorak. Zamorak slew Zaros with the Staff of Armadyl and Zaros, as he was dying, put a curse of immortality on Zamorak. So, Saradomin may not have been a Mahjarrat, but he still came from Freneskae. Guthix came from somewhere else, I imagine.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I still want to find out from members the story behind the Mourners and what they're doing.

[Randox]

 

 

 

Edit: Just a thought, maybe we could try meeting in world 96 today. That is the world where the TET event is going to be held. Just a reminder the meeting is at 7pm GMT. (2pm EST, 1pm CST, 12pm MST and 11am PST)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Those times are wrong (except GMT). The north american times and were in daylight savings now so there 1 hour later than posted. Personaly I wish everything had been moved back an hour at DLST because im in AST time zone, so the meeting is at 4pm and the TET event is at 5pm when most people have supper.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Im fine with whatever world but I think KC should anounce it, otherwise ill be waiting on what ever world we normaly use (not 7)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Topic:

 

 

 

I'm glad someone agrees with me (I think) on a God related issue, as no of us seem to agree in thta area. Hopefully we shall have a productive meeting on whatever world. And I wont be leveing 10 minutes early (or i dont expect to) because im really just interested in that wildy fight.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So KC, would you please confirm the world were meeting at?

[KCHughes]

Sure, we can try world 96 this time, and the times are the same as last week, too!

[Randox]

I hope some people read this before the meeting. I suggest we take the 3 books from the WOM's house, just incase we need info on them. They are fairly usefull recorces and if we get around to elder dragons they prety much are the only resorce, so having a copy of the books might be useful. I'll bring them of couse but everyone should have there own copies.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Just an idea.

[Randox]

Well, KC and KingWenlock alredy know, but the 3 of us (that would be me, KC and KingWenlock), decided to take a trip into the wildy after the meeting, and we found some neat stuff, got attacked, and what not. I was the photographer for the trip so here are the pictures of interesting things.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm the one with a weapon, KingWenlock is the one with the wizard hat, and KC is the one with nothing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I would draw special attention to the floor. The tileing makes a patern, namly the symbol of ancient magic, Zaros symbol!. Also the chaos alter would suggest that zamorack took over this (former) temple after Zaros dissaperance.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This is the other chaos alter we visated. The others couldnt see this being on low detail, but I draw your attention to the carpets, mainly the little ones. Notice the black symbol of saradomin. Either TB@JT are using that symbol as a general decoration, or that symbol has a knack of turnign up in the most inaproriate places. The windows we belive might resemble the ones in the monestary, so I shall head over and get pics of 1st and 2nd story windows soon. The shape is also veary odd, being reminicent of a mace IMO.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This is my first picture of the ruins located just north of the gravyard full of zombies and planks. This was once populated, as you can see from the 2 beds and sink. That sink still has working plumbing as you can use it to fill buckets. My guess is that this was a city (a veary tiny one) demolished during the God wars (reminding everyone that the wildness comprises the grounds on which most of the God Wars were fought).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The others didnt get to see this on the trip either. Its a former temple(I know this because I examined the pillers and they said "a ruined temple". The ladder going up was broken, like the ones at mezars maze. Nothing to interesting, just took pic so others could see.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Why are there black knights here. I took mainly incase anyone recognizes the banner.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thats it for pictures, though we explored the demonic ruins and the ruins to the east. When I think about it the demonic ruins were proboly once like the chaos alter (the one in the second pick), as there about the right size. The ruins to the east I belive are the remains of a castle, proboly a stronghold for zamakorian forces during the god wars.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

We tried to examine the dark knight fortress, but were unable to find one empty enough to allow investigation.

[Trobigod]

Oh yeah, just dropped by to tell you people that in the newest quest, namely The Great Brain Robbery, in the part when you learn of fake cats you use in the quest, you see none other than Elfinlocks, as our friend, Darkluniux stated before.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Elfinlocks had a blue phat, yes she had that on, alongside a whip and a legend's cape and some leg armor/clothing which I don't regonize.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That's all.

[Randox]

Here we go, the picture I expected to have about 2 hours ago. The window from the chos temple is a little small, but i'm not going to lvl 47 wildy for a better one, at least not tonight. Anyway the picture outlined in black is from the chaos temple/alter and the other 2 are from the monestary. Personaly I think the sword one from the monestary would have been more suting to a chaos alter than a nice tree and vice versa, but, no matter. Heres the picture.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I am actualy quite curioius as to why a sword would be a symbol in a window of a building dedicated to peace? I would say an iron long sword but it might be an iron short. The little round one is obviously a symbol of saradomin, and if you can't tell, the one from the chaos alter is a butiful tree. Weird :-k :ohnoes:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Oh and if anyone wants me to go back into the wildy for more adventures and pictures, tell me and Ill see what I can do, and maby King Wenlock and KC Hughes will come with me...who knows?

[KCHughes]

I'm not going back until my combat level is 126. :P For some reason, when people go into the wildy, they leave their rationality behind.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anyway, that sword looks remarkably similar to the sword in the Runescape logo in the log in screen. Probably just a Jagex cookie. The Lumbridge church also did not have any similar windows. I might look around at the Port Sarim church and the Varrock church, too. I swear, I've seen that window somewhere outside of the wildy.

[Randox]

I'm not going back until my combat level is 126. :P For some reason, when people go into the wildy, they leave their rationality behind.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anyway, that sword looks remarkably similar to the sword in the Runescape logo in the log in screen. Probably just a Jagex cookie. The Lumbridge church also did not have any similar windows. I might look around at the Port Sarim church and the Varrock church, too. I swear, I've seen that window somewhere outside of the wildy.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I know the feeling and its almost creepy. if you check the churches in varrock make sure you cheack both, it is a window in a chaos alter after all so maby the chaos alter in varrock ha sthose windows.

[Randox]

I have found something interesting at the chaos alter in south varrock.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

These are the windows from the lumbrige church should anyone be intested. Varrock church has the same windows. The chaos alter has none. KC I think will cheack the church south of port sarim and the one with wine of zammorack.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Heres a pic of the priest in the varrock church. Whats that symbol on his chest?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And last but not least, what looks familiar in this picture?anyone? look back a page or 2 to see the pics I got of the one at the black knight fortress, now seen here outside the chaos alter in varrock :ohnoes:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[skreeran1]

So, am I part of the team? I did introduce the Dorgeshuun theory... I just want to know if I'd be safe, if I were to investigate the Wilderness with ya'll.

[Randox]

So, am I part of the team? I did introduce the Dorgeshuun theory... I just want to know if I'd be safe, if I were to investigate the Wilderness with ya'll.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I cant speek for everyone but I think you could be a part of the team sure. I don't attack WOMDA members, though whats your combat? The 3 of us are combat 65/66, 77, and 86 I think.

[skreeran1]

 

So, am I part of the team? I did introduce the Dorgeshuun theory... I just want to know if I'd be safe, if I were to investigate the Wilderness with ya'll.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I cant speek for everyone but I think you could be a part of the team sure. I don't attack WOMDA members, though whats your combat? The 3 of us are combat 65/66, 77, and 86 I think.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm lvl 76, F2P ;)

[skreeran1]

Hey, this doesn't have much to do with anything we've discussed before, but, what is this symbol on the Varrock Dark Wizard Circle?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And remember, it doesn't neccesarilly, have anything to do with Delrith, because it was stolen from the Druids.

[skreeran1]

Oh, major realiseation *not neccesarily relating to WOM*!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

WOM has a globe of Gielinor, but Runescape (according to the World Map) does not appear to be a sphere. That menas there's more land that we have not found yet!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edit: To save the space of an extra post, but can anyone translate this?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Vidi, volui, mihi est! It sounds like Latin, but when I ran it through the translator, and only the last two words worked and it was something like "Me is".

[KingWenlok]

Well, I finally managed to break into the Dark Knight's Fortress, and I have two images for you. Both come from the top floor. Sorry for the bad quality, my computer isn't all that great. I had to be quick with the photography, as there were three player killers downstairs fighting amongst themselves.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Here we have a suit of armour. Look closely and you will see a distinctive pattern of red lines on the shield. The same suits of armour are found in Lumbridge castle. Curious.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Look very closely, and you can see a symbol of Saradomin, this time in red on a black background! Why would Dark Warriors have a Saradomin symbol in their fortress, a fortress dedicated to chaos?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That looks very similar to this eye rock. Didn't we say that it was Death?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Oh, and Randox- that priest is wearing dark wizard robes. Now, why on Earth would a Saradominist priest be wearing the robes of evil wizards, who practice the magic of Zamorak? Should he not be wearing black priest robes?

[1alebcay]

Here's a picture of the zamorock temple just outside the wildy on the western side.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It also has the same carpet as the other temple...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

By the way, if any one feels like making any ventures into the wilderness just contact me... I might get some pking in.... (I will not PK any one in WOMDA though.)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Off topic. You should have come to the TET event, there were tons of spoils. (I personally got a rune 2 hand)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edit: Oh wow, it is sorta scary what can happen when people are bored...

 

 

 

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[Randox]

I didnt realise the dark circle has had a graphic update, I dont think i've actualy looked at it in months. Now the only church left to examine is that one south of port sarim, unless anyone else knows where there is a stainglass window that is the picture of a tree?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Im more interested in the symbol of the priests chest than the colour of his robes. Unless im mistaked and dark wizard robes have that symbol on htem now...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I might try to break into that wildy fortress myself, but i'll go alone, I have a second account that might be useful for this and I cant reveal its identity. Or i'll just take my main and assume i'll havev about 5 minutes until a force shows up looking for me, which has happened more than once when I have been there.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Oh, and I suggested this at the meeting but of course ill put this here for people to think about: What if the WOM is not strictly human, but of the same race and origan as the mahjarrat. I'm not saying that he is or ever was mahjarrat, but that he is the same race as there tribe (I belive there to be multiple tribes in freneskae that are the same race as the mahjarrat). I think this could explain his power with magic and why he can take so much damage. (from what i'vee heard of the damage he takes and the effect of his health bar, he might have a 4 digit hp level).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I might also propose that we make ourselves our own clan (WOMDA of course), mainly so we can say were in a clan, and maby make a list of us on the first post....just a thought.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I too was only able to translate the last 2 words, and the meaning I got was something like 1. Give me lots of land, it is right. or 2. me, and it is right.

[Xewleer]

OKay! I'm back! Anyway...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Welcome aboard Skeeran (or whatever your name is, bad with names you see,)!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I had noticed that pattern before, just never really connected the dots with Saradomin symbol. Also, the Black knight place below Taverly at least have this patttern too. Now, I know that Black knights are generally evil/lazy (read March's letters) and not really into building Dark Citadels!!! Bwa ha ha ha (evil Xewleer separates from main body and causes Havoc!) Also, I think I have seen it else where. Also, I plan on doing some investigating into member's wildy... I'll do it secretly, I can't do screenies 9compy problem) and so you'll have to trust me... Also... if the Chaos elemental gets me... my hally goes to JK

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I hate clans, had a bunch of really bad experiences, even though this will probabely be different, I don't want to affiliate myself.However, you have a willing scout to investigate all member's territory! Also, KC, I'm beginning to train for Underground pass, then regicide etc...

[skreeran1]

 

 

 

Oh, and I suggested this at the meeting but of course ill put this here for people to think about: What if the WOM is not strictly human, but of the same race and origan as the mahjarrat. I'm not saying that he is or ever was mahjarrat, but that he is the same race as there tribe (I belive there to be multiple tribes in freneskae that are the same race as the mahjarrat). I think this could explain his power with magic and why he can take so much damage. (from what i'vee heard of the damage he takes and the effect of his health bar, he might have a 4 digit hp level).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

However, the only Majarratt we've actually seen is Lucien (and Maybe Azzandra, I haven't completed Desert Treasure) and he had dark grey skin, so either the WOM would have to alter his appearance (maybe a connection to the makeover mage?) or the Majarratt all look different. ;)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

EDIT: Hazeel is another Majarratt, and he is white with horns and black markings, so it is possible that the Majarratt do look different. However, we cannot tell whether Lucien has horns due to his helmet.

[skreeran1]

OKay! I'm back! Anyway...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Welcome aboard Skeeran (or whatever your name is, bad with names you see,)!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I hate clans, had a bunch of really bad experiences, even though this will probabely be different, I don't want to affiliate myself.However, you have a willing scout to investigate all member's territory! Also, KC, I'm beginning to train for Underground pass, then regicide etc...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks, and just thought I'd let you know (I never miss out on an opportunity to gloat) I have completed Underground pass. It's really fun (and hard, and frightening).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But I would definitely like to join the clan. Here's what I look like just in case you run into me: