Investigating the Wise Old Man

[KingWenlok]

The Postbag from the Hedge has come...

 

 

 

*Considers sticking Postie Pete at gunpoint and forcing him to make an answer to KCHughes' letter and add it to the current edition*

[quantumkik]

I did the new quest (Great Brain Robbery) yesterday. In it appears Elfinlocks, the fake player that gets killed in the WOM movie and drops the party hat. In the new quest you see Elfinlocks walking by with a player made cat. A very short movie, that in the quest gives you the idea to put wooden cats in a crate instead of real cats. I realized it too late, so I didn't get a good look. If I remember it right, Elfinlocks was not wearing a party hat.

[Randox]

I agree with KingWenlok's last statement, but I'll stick to a rune 2 hander in his face (seeing as he has no neck). Anyway, resubmit the letter...and my next post will definatly have more substance than this one... :anxious:

[1alebcay]

As far as elfinlocks being in there that could be a major thing, or maybe she is just one of JAGeX's accounts that they use for filming cut scenes.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edit: This is really off topic, but KC, regarding your location why would the FBI have a listening post in Siberia. After all they are the Federal Bureau of Investigation, so what would they be doing having a post outside of the US. So, ya that is off topic.

[KCHughes]

Argh. No letters. Curse you, Pete. :wall: I'm going to re-send mine.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The FBI doesn't have a listening post in Siberia, as far as I know. If you look closely it says FSB, not FBI. :wink:

[choasdemo135]

WAIT A MINUTE........................

 

 

 

ive been trying to ask this question for ages... but i keep forgetting

 

 

 

the mysterious heads you see scattered across RS, WHAT DO THEY DO?!

 

 

 

and they all seem to face the same direction, someone (or a group of ppl) should go and see where they all face, pinpointing the middle location

 

 

 

possibly a new HUGE quest coming up? since the heads were since rs1

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

if anyone has posted about the heads b4 or if they were used in a quest please pm me tyvm

[Darkluniux]

WAIT A MINUTE........................

 

 

 

ive been trying to ask this question for ages... but i keep forgetting

 

 

 

the mysterious heads you see scattered across RS, WHAT DO THEY DO?!

 

 

 

and they all seem to face the same direction, someone (or a group of ppl) should go and see where they all face, pinpointing the middle location

 

 

 

possibly a new HUGE quest coming up? since the heads were since rs1

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

if anyone has posted about the heads b4 or if they were used in a quest please pm me tyvm

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

LOL, They are sooo old and they are part of "in search of the holy grail" quest.

[KingWenlok]

Sorry I haven't been posting much folks- me brain went dead.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anyhoo, as far as Elfinlocks goes, I think it's just a throwaway clue to lead up to the big quest. If it's coming then we'll likely end up seeing the WOM wandering around, lots of travelling Black and White Knights, and possibly more of those Falador Stone symbols. A bit of suspense is always good.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So, is the meeting in the same place, same time, World 61? I'm actually stumped as to what we're going to discuss.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I agree with KingWenlok's last statement, but I'll stick to a rune 2 hander in his face

 

 

 

He'd have escaped before you even swung the stupid thing. :P

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Off topic: The Tip.It Times has a very curious title... :lol:

[Wizz]

i just got this out of wikipedia.org

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The Eye of Horus (originally, The Eye of Ra) is an ancient Egyptian symbol of protection and power, from the deity Horus or Ra. In the Egyptian language the word for this symbol was "wadjet" (according to M. Stokstad "Art History").

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The Eye of Horus, originally the Eye of Ra, symbolized royal power. The ancients believed this symbol of indestructibility would assist in rebirth*. The Eye of Horus was found under the 12th layer of bandages on Tutankhamun's mummy. Horus was an ancient Egyptian sky god; one of his eyes was the sun and the other the moon. The eye represents a peregrine falcon's eye and the markings around it, including the "teardrop" marking sometimes found below the eye. This eye also represents feminity, magic, and protection.**

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The Eye of Horus represents the right eye of the Egyptian Falcon God Horus. As the udjat (or utchat), it also represented the sun, and was associated with the Sun God Ra (Re). The mirror image, or left eye, represented the moon and the God Tehuti (Thoth).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*this why when we die we end up back at lumby

 

 

 

**this is why people cant attcks us unless we are in wildy if the WOM burns the tower chaos will havoc :ohnoes: :ohnoes:

 

 

 

and also this is why we can cast magic

[bloody_scife]

Hi all. I don't think I will be able to attend today's meeting, or I will at least be pretty late.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My brother is a total computer hog. Argh.

[KCHughes]

I was travelling this weekend so I coudn't make it. I just got home not too long ago. I wooudn't have had much to talk about, anyway. :P It's been a slow couple of weeks. Jagex must really be testing this thread's endurance. I will not let it die.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Off topic: The Tip.It Times has a very curious title... :lol:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm all for making Alebcay change his avatar to Eli Wallach. He IS ugly, after all. :mrgreen:

[1alebcay]

Args... I forgot to come to the meeting... Oh well. Just wondering did anything come up?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

By the way you are right... I do need a new avatar, exept I don't need an ugly one. Any ideas?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Also if WOM is trying to become a god why did he rob the bank?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edit: I made this Avatar, but of course it is to big.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I hope I can find ways to get the size down this time... but I doubt it. Oh well, it was fun to make.

[KCHughes]

Make this your avatar:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And the trio shall be complete. :lol: *whistles Ennio Morricone music*

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As far as WOM robbing the bank (I need to make this post relevant in some other way than to glorify the best movie ever), my thoughts were that he robbed the bank partly to decorate his house but mostly to fund his army. He robbed a bank; my estimate is that there were upwards of several hundred million GPs in the bank before he robbed it. All he did with his decorations was to just gild a few items. Since gold bars only cost about 650-700 GPs each, that would only be a fraction of what he probably robbed. What did he do with the rest?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Since we're pretty confident that he's going trigger another God War and use summoning to create a massive army that he will use to win the war for Saradomin, thus making Saradomin favor him enough to appoint WOM a god, he will have to arm his army somehow. If we look back at the letters he sent to the various NPCs, he wanted to learn more about a "revolutionary new smithing technique" (AKA blast furnace, we believe) from Reldo, and he wanted information on how Thurgo's ancestors created the Shield of Arrav. If he were to employ Thurgo and many other dwarven smiths in the blast furnace, he could churn out enough weapons and armor to arm...well, an army. And since he'll need resources to make the weapons out of, he'll probably go about hiring more dwarves to mine material and more dwarves to smith the material. Then he simply summons up his army, gives them the weapons, and wins the God War.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you remember how many of the letters he sent were to or mentioned people who were very close to the Black Knights' positions: the Oracle overlooks the Black Knight fortress, Father Lawrence is really close to that one Black Knight north of Varrock (plus his church has a huge tower that can easily be used to spy from), and Father Uhrney is close to that other lone Black Knight south of Draynor (who is in a perfect position to be blamed for the destruction of the Wizard's Tower and thus trigger the war, I might add).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think, among all of our fun little rumors about WOM eventually taking over Runescape/destroying Runescape, we've really overlooked the fact that if WOM DOES get involved in a God War, he will ultimately be destroyed. Zamorak can simply summon as many soldiers as WOM could, but because Zamorak is immortal, and WOM is not (yet), WOM would just get killed in the course of the war. It's bound to happen, I think. Although Jagex doesn't have the time nor the effort to make something like that happen, we'll settle for a quest series that can stop WOM before he does anything stupid.

[Randox]

So, I got the time, what world and where in that world is the next meeting (my hope is to make it to atleast 1 before the apocolypse :oops: )?

[1alebcay]

Humm... I was thinking do laws of physics apply in Runescape? If so than the first law of thermodynamics would apply to summoning. (It basically says no new matter or energy can be made or created, but it can be changed from one type to another.) If so than the WOM would have to have the matter already there, or else he would have to be stealing matter from other parts of Runescape.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Just wondering to all you members out there is there anything said in the new quest about having to have matter there for summoning to happen?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Side note: I don't think that this law would apply to necromancy though because you are just reanimating dead things.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Also why do I have to be the ugly one? I'm not that ugly in real life... :-s :-$

[KingWenlok]

Make this your avatar:

 

 

 

 

 

 

:lol: It's Tuco! But if you ask me, I found him more stupid than ugly.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And the trio shall be complete. :lol: *whistles Ennio Morricone music*

 

 

 

Coincidentally, I'm listening to 'The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly' right now on my media player. :mrgreen: The man was a genius I tells ya!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As far as WOM robbing the bank (I need to make this post relevant in some other way than to glorify the best movie ever), my thoughts were that he robbed the bank partly to decorate his house but mostly to fund his army. He robbed a bank; my estimate is that there were upwards of several hundred million GPs in the bank before he robbed it. All he did with his decorations was to just gild a few items. Since gold bars only cost about 650-700 GPs each, that would only be a fraction of what he probably robbed. What did he do with the rest?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Since we're pretty confident that he's going trigger another God War and use summoning to create a massive army that he will use to win the war for Saradomin, thus making Saradomin favor him enough to appoint WOM a god, he will have to arm his army somehow. If we look back at the letters he sent to the various NPCs, he wanted to learn more about a "revolutionary new smithing technique" (AKA blast furnace, we believe) from Reldo, and he wanted information on how Thurgo's ancestors created the Shield of Arrav. If he were to employ Thurgo and many other dwarven smiths in the blast furnace, he could churn out enough weapons and armor to arm...well, an army. And since he'll need resources to make the weapons out of, he'll probably go about hiring more dwarves to mine material and more dwarves to smith the material. Then he simply summons up his army, gives them the weapons, and wins the God War.

 

 

 

Well, Thurgo did make the Blurite Sword. But I think the WOM will be aiming for weapons with a sort of magical property so his troops will withstand anything. Of course, this would be bad for both Saradominists and Zamorakians, as you don't exactly see them wearing the greatest armour, do you ('cept for the White Knights)? Of course, knowing Zamorak, he'll probably unleash a host of demons and powerful mages, which might crumble normal armour. So therefore, the WOM needs protection from all three types of attack. Say, you don't think he might be trying to get them to remake Barrows armour? We said earlier that he may try obtaining this legandary armour, but I doubt he wants his troops slaughtered by an angry Guthan the Infested. So, he might try to get the dwarves to remake the armour, even though it'll cost him a tad more than if he were to get it, but in the long run it would be easier- not everyone who goes to the Barrows gets a piece of Barrows weaponry/armour.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you remember how many of the letters he sent were to or mentioned people who were very close to the Black Knights' positions: the Oracle overlooks the Black Knight fortress, Father Lawrence is really close to that one Black Knight north of Varrock (plus his church has a huge tower that can easily be used to spy from), and Father Uhrney is close to that other lone Black Knight south of Draynor (who is in a perfect position to be blamed for the destruction of the Wizard's Tower and thus trigger the war, I might add).

 

 

 

It could be possible that our little Black Knights may rush in and aid the WOM, as they would see it as a prime opportunity to get back at the wizards (and the possible Opus Saradomin).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think, among all of our fun little rumors about WOM eventually taking over Runescape/destroying Runescape, we've really overlooked the fact that if WOM DOES get involved in a God War, he will ultimately be destroyed. Zamorak can simply summon as many soldiers as WOM could, but because Zamorak is immortal, and WOM is not (yet), WOM would just get killed in the course of the war. It's bound to happen, I think. Although Jagex doesn't have the time nor the effort to make something like that happen, we'll settle for a quest series that can stop WOM before he does anything stupid.

 

 

 

Ah, but the WOM is a very over-confident being. He'll do it without a second thought. That's the downfall of villains in the end- they always underestimate the opposition. And the WOM is stupid enough to underestimate us... :twisted:

 

 

 

Well, even if the WOM does get killed, we have forgotten about one hugely important thing- Zaros. The WOM may use Zaros to destroy the gods, as he is one of the most powerful. But if the WOM does die, Zaros is hardly going to cry beside the WOM's body is he? He's going to blow Zamorak's head off and rip out Saradomin's eyes. But Guthix will escape before he does any of this, that's for sure, because if Guthix dies, Gielinor is destroyed.

[Grimnirwher9]

:idea: It might be just one of my legendary Crazy Thoughts, but maybe there is a small chance it helps...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Fact one: The king of Asgarnia is not in Falador, the capital. Actually, he seems to be missing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Fact two: Nobody knows who the WOM actually is, or where he comes from, or why he likes wealth so much he even robbed the bank to get it. It is clear that he was heroic once, but who did he fight for? Just himself? tha should he have loads of money by now...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Fact three: The WOM lives in Draynor. Seen from Asgarnia, it's just acrass the border with Mysthalin.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Conclusio: it maybe might not be impossible that the WOM is actually the expelled or fled king of Asgarnia... :?: :?: :?:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But if it is like that,... What the bleep does he keep under his bed???

[Xewleer]

never thought of that... but then why do the white knights just leave him be? After all... loose ends trip people up.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anyway... I think Jagex might be doing something besides runescape at the moment... the updates are fewish and far between... they didn't really update much on the area guides.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

(off topic: give me a good sci-fi anyday)

[KCHughes]

I guess no one wants to be Tuco. :cry:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I've heard some wildly varying theories about the King of Falador. The most popular one at the moment is that the King is really sick and living away from Falador while he heals, and the White Knights are really in control of the city with the king as a figurehead. If that's true, then WOM probably isn't the king.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Another one is that there realy isn't a king at all, and the Temple Knights control the city's functions.

[ThruItAll]

Im just guessing this. The lines on your chart thingie which come from the WOMs house also lead to the chaos altar in varrock. It is possible he may be working with the Zamorack Mage in the wanted quest. Or the connection is also farely near to the Dark Wizard Circle. The circle is a circle of guthix because in druidic ritual they had the other circle. Possible he might be trying to destroy Saradomin by Allying with Guthixand Zamorack then taking Sardomins place as a god.

[Randox]

Hmmm. To ally with both guthix and zamorak, Saradomin would have to be up to something as well, otherwise Guthix wouldn't be involved as it balences the actions of its brothers (if you wondering, Guthix is an it nto he, it is gender nutral). But now im also wondering what the WOM will do if his actions bring about the attentions of the gods, all I know is I wan't to be on whatever side Guthix is on, cause Guthix's side will likly win considering hes the most powerful of the trio.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Maby this will lead to more inclusion of the many other Gods of Runescape as well?...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Also would someone please tell me where the meetings are held, I thought they were by the entrance to the water alter but either im wrong or I had the wrong world. As far as I know its still world 7 but I know there have been lag issues so: What world? Where? and 7pm GMT.

[KCHughes]

We've moved to world 61 recently because of lag issues on world 7. And we're actually in the altar, not outside of it.

[KingWenlok]

Oooh, 1alebcay changed his avatar! Now we have the full set. :P

 

 

 

"There are those with loaded guns my friend, and those who do the digging. You dig."

 

 

 

Go on 1alebcay! Dig! Dig into the WOM's life! Dig to victory! :mrgreen:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As for the King of Falador, I do get the feeling he has been kidnapped. Hmm... the supposed king is on Saradomin's side isn't he? Well, what if the WOM has him locked away? If the Wise Old Man were to execute him, then that would get Saradominists (White Knights) angry, would it not (especially if he made it look like the work of Zamorakians)? And then after they find the dead body of the king, kaboom! Bye bye Wizard's Tower! And what will they find? Some mark of Zamorak I would imagine, carefully planted by the WOM. They'd fight each other without a second thought.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And speaking of rulers, I'm off to hunt for that poll about the secret rulers of RuneScape. I doubt it was penguins, as why would they be trying to take over if they already were the rulers? Not sure if any of this will end up relating to the WOM, but it's worth a try I suppose.

[1alebcay]

I was forced to do it... Ok maybe not.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

While I was digging I found this...It is a little bit familiar... At any rate this is what will happen to all traitors. (I have a question, if your allegiance lies with Zamorock then why are you siding with another god that could bring about the downfall of your god?)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That could be a plausible idea that the WOM kidnapped him, but it never really has been confirmed that there ever was a ruler or ever will be a ruler. If you look back at history, most of the time when there were great monarchies there was also some type of Democracy like Athens, and France before Napoleon took over, and England since 1200 something.

[mega_vegeta6]

maybe he is making a way to craft soul runes, and somehow use them to summon undeads. maybe an undead army? :-k :uhh:

 

 

 

that would lead to the release of summoning skill! ftwpwnz0rmg1337nub13ts!

 

 

 

and maybe an penguin is the first thing to summon? :ohnoes:

 

 

 

adn anew quest to unlock summoning skill, something similar to the quest that unlocks herblore.... #-o

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

pm me f you want me to come and discuss this, im reading guides..(oh, an playing RS. lmao)