Cheefoo Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 Hey I'm going to try the two-Nomads-in-a-row challenge, and I was wondering if I could have some pointers when it comes to gear to bring. Here are my stats: 99 attack98 strength93 defence98 constitution99 magic85 ranged85 prayer91 summoning88 herblore I have a chaotic rapier as well as Karil's armor, a fire cape, amulet of fury and some other stuff... Any ideas on what I should bring, or if I could do it at all with my stats (no overloads or ss/turmoil)? Any hints would be much appreciated, but keep in mind I can't afford really expensive gear like Torva, Pernix etc. P.S. Is it possible I could only beat the first Nomad in the special challenge and it would still unlock goliath gloves? P.P.S. Oh, and I don't have dragon claws... but I'd gladly accept donations (or just a borrow)! [spoiler=I LOVE MY STATION] 01001001001001110110110100100000010101000111011101100101011011000111011001100101001000000110000101101110011001000010000001110111011010000110000101110100001000000110100101110011001000000111010001101000011010010111001100111111 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 Void, max strength gear, rapier + defender, bgs for specs. You must beat both Nomads for it to count. You should pray protect from melee on Nomad's berserker stage only. Since you do not have good fighting familiars, go with war tortoise and unicorn. Bring brews and restores, 3:1. That's all. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossed_Body Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 I did it all in full void melee + rapier, ovl, turm and ss, with no familiar and a single inventory of brews and super restores. I had some to spare afterwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladekill133 Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 You can practice by just aiming to kill the first nomad, with, say, a few brews/restored and a lot of scorpion meat. Once you can do that, fill up on brews and restores including a tort as Enaid said and go for both. I did it all in full void melee + rapier, ovl, turm and ss, with no familiar and a single inventory of brews and super restores. I had some to spare afterwards. Useful, given that he doesn't have overloads, turmoil, or soul spit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheefoo Posted November 5, 2011 Author Share Posted November 5, 2011 Thanks for the advice! I think I'm pretty confident I could do this with my stats. I'll probably start trying tomorrow morning, wish me luck! And about overloads, exactly how useful are they really? Seeing as you're going to be chugging down brews against Nomad, does the full overload boost really come in effect all that often? Of course having overloads is better than not, but I'm thinking it might not have as much an impact on the fight against Nomad as people believe? [spoiler=I LOVE MY STATION] 01001001001001110110110100100000010101000111011101100101011011000111011001100101001000000110000101101110011001000010000001110111011010000110000101110100001000000110100101110011001000000111010001101000011010010111001100111111 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerfrog Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 If it were me, i'd swap the uni for a spirit kyatt and plenty of ambush scrolls. It may not be more efficient in terms of suriving, but the increased killspeed will make a fail take a lot less time so you can see if you get close and try again. Melee void > karils for the same reason. If you're doing it just to unlock the gloves and don't want a challenge, bring help horns. Each one = 1100hp of healing per inventory slot without draining stats and would really give you a huge advantage over not having them. Soulsplit the entire fight, i don't believe protection prayers work on any stage. (If they do, it's difficult to see, so it may be even less helpful than SS anyway) Oops just noticed you don't have SS, just use piety then. BGS for spec. If you hit poorly on your first spec i'd recommend just dieing and starting again until you get a decent hit, as it really does help and you don't lose anything by doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladekill133 Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 Thanks for the advice! I think I'm pretty confident I could do this with my stats. I'll probably start trying tomorrow morning, wish me luck! And about overloads, exactly how useful are they really? Seeing as you're going to be chugging down brews against Nomad, does the full overload boost really come in effect all that often? Of course having overloads is better than not, but I'm thinking it might not have as much an impact on the fight against Nomad as people believe? Overloads boost stats every 15 seconds. If you time your brews to be 1 second before overload boost comes in, then you''d always be at full stats unless you drink 3 brew doses. Of course, that's really hard, but you get used to timing it so that your stats are full most of the time. And either way, it means you don't need restores except for prayer, and the occasional 3-brews-in-15-second-span. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHappySeeker Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 If it were me, i'd swap the uni for a spirit kyatt and plenty of ambush scrolls. It may not be more efficient in terms of suriving, but the increased killspeed will make a fail take a lot less time so you can see if you get close and try again. Melee void > karils for the same reason. If you're doing it just to unlock the gloves and don't want a challenge, bring help horns. Each one = 1100hp of healing per inventory slot without draining stats and would really give you a huge advantage over not having them. Soulsplit the entire fight, i don't believe protection prayers work on any stage. (If they do, it's difficult to see, so it may be even less helpful than SS anyway) Oops just noticed you don't have SS, just use piety then. BGS for spec. If you hit poorly on your first spec i'd recommend just dieing and starting again until you get a decent hit, as it really does help and you don't lose anything by doing it. Protect melee works on last stages. Melee void is shit here without ovls and turm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelic Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 If it were me, i'd swap the uni for a spirit kyatt and plenty of ambush scrolls. It may not be more efficient in terms of suriving, but the increased killspeed will make a fail take a lot less time so you can see if you get close and try again. Melee void > karils for the same reason. If you're doing it just to unlock the gloves and don't want a challenge, bring help horns. Each one = 1100hp of healing per inventory slot without draining stats and would really give you a huge advantage over not having them. Soulsplit the entire fight, i don't believe protection prayers work on any stage. (If they do, it's difficult to see, so it may be even less helpful than SS anyway) Oops just noticed you don't have SS, just use piety then. BGS for spec. If you hit poorly on your first spec i'd recommend just dieing and starting again until you get a decent hit, as it really does help and you don't lose anything by doing it. Protect melee works on last stages. Melee void is shit here without ovls and turm. How is melee void shit without them? Considering your defense doesn't affect his attacks in the slightest until his berserker mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHappySeeker Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 Considering your defense doesn't affect his attacks in the slightest until his berserker mode. You don't know what you're talking about at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelic Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 Considering your defense doesn't affect his attacks in the slightest until his berserker mode. You don't know what you're talking about at all. No. You don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlowinRedM Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 Magic soak helps on his all-but-one-HP attack and mage def seems to make his hits less frequent The corp beast, is, well, just a corp beast. He doesnt even have any friends.[spoiler=Other Quotes]tbh idk why this makes me laugh so hardAll DFS threads turn into efficiency flame wars >.>>OP asks "why use DFS?">everyone says "there is no reason">someone says "stop bashing people who use DFS, efficiency troll ass clown">thread is now a flame fest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHappySeeker Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 Considering your defense doesn't affect his attacks in the slightest until his berserker mode. You don't know what you're talking about at all. No. You don't. You're an idiot. Compare brews used on this... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atcCjk47urk And brews used on this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tK4AiQqut8Q Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelic Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 Considering your defense doesn't affect his attacks in the slightest until his berserker mode. You don't know what you're talking about at all. No. You don't. You're an idiot. Compare brews used on this... You're an idiot. Because we all know one fight means everything. I destroyed a guy with a Cmaul while I used Goliath Gloves, with more than half my food left. Guess that means Goliath gloves are twice as good as Cmaul using your logic. Actually watched the video...how can you can compare a rapier fight with a "spork" fight? Also, the second one used a full inventory from the Yak, and he was using armour. Get some valid videos next time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saradomin_Mage Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 Go fight Nomad with Karil's, then with Rune, and tell us your results.In the two videos Happy gave, you can compare brews consumed over time, which really shouldn't be too hard to do. In real life MMO you don't get 99 smithing by making endless bronze daggers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHappySeeker Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 you also have to account for the lower SS healing due to the spork being somewhat inferior to the rapier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheefoo Posted November 6, 2011 Author Share Posted November 6, 2011 Hey, I managed to beat them yesterday morning, using a void setup. I tried Karils, but it kinda sucked. Also, the soak didn't seem to work on any of his attacks. Thanks to A Local Girl (Guy?) for letting me borrow a Bandos godsword. I probably couldn't have won without it! I kinda got down to the wire with a few brews left. P.S. Sorry I couldn't respond earlier, I kinda sprained my ankle later that day and didn't get much of a chance. You can all stop bickering now and lock this thread. Thanks for all the advice, though! [spoiler=I LOVE MY STATION] 01001001001001110110110100100000010101000111011101100101011011000111011001100101001000000110000101101110011001000010000001110111011010000110000101110100001000000110100101110011001000000111010001101000011010010111001100111111 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHappySeeker Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 It works on his lp-1 attack and significantly reduces damage compared to void. As in -25% brews consumed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelic Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 (edited) Go fight Nomad with Karil's, then with Rune, and tell us your results.In the two videos Happy gave, you can compare brews consumed over time, which really shouldn't be too hard to do. I've fought him with Void and with Karils, no difference. The only thing that does make a noticeable difference is defense level. Not armor, which is why you go for max offensive bonuses. And no, you really cannot compare the two, maybe give them both the same weapons and have everything minus the armor the same. Even then like I said, one example means nothing. I destroyed a guy with a Cmaul while I used Goliath Gloves and had more than half food left, therefore, by the logic of comparing one item, Goliath Gloves must be twice as good. Edited November 9, 2011 by obfuscator flaming removed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saradomin_Mage Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 (edited) Go fight Nomad with Karil's, then with Rune, and tell us your results.In the two videos Happy gave, you can compare brews consumed over time, which really shouldn't be too hard to do. I've fought him with Void and with Karils, no difference. The only thing that does make a noticeable difference is defense level. Not armor, which is why you go for max offensive bonuses. And no, you really cannot compare the two, maybe give them both the same weapons and have everything minus the armor the same. Even then like I said, one example means nothing. I destroyed a guy with a Cmaul while I used Goliath Gloves and had more than half food left, therefore, by the logic of comparing one item, Goliath Gloves must be twice as good. Yup, because slinging disparging comments like that makes you the epitome of genius.Happy knows his MHing stuff, so you really should pay attention when he talks.Thank you very much. Edited November 9, 2011 by obfuscator flaming removed from quote In real life MMO you don't get 99 smithing by making endless bronze daggers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown_Warrior Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 I know for a fact damage soaking works as I did the Double Nomad challenge earlier this week and I got hit roughly 820s on his Freeze attack, whereas I should normally be hit 929's as my constitution level is 93 (I was wearing Armadyl's as I was pure ranging him). @OP: You're going to have a lot of trouble if you either don't have a Yak or don't have Soul Split. I was Soul Splitting both Nomad's non-melee forms and I only just barely made it out alive killing the second. And that was with roughly 40 brews (barely as in 200 LP and not a single brew dose left - my heart was pounding). Still, I can happily say I maintain my track record of never having lost to Nomad. Dragon Drops : 5 Dragon Medium Helmets, 3 Dragon Claws, 3 Dragon platelegs, 2 Dragon plateskirts, 2 Dragon Hatchets, 2 Dragon Spears, 7 pairs of Dragon Boots, 1 Dragon pickaxe, 10 Dragon defenders, 3 Dragon 2h swords, 1 Dragon armour Slice, 1 Dragon armour Lump, 1 Dragon chainbody, 1 Dragon kiteshield, 1 Dragon hasta, 1 Dragon ward, 25 Dragon knives pairsThe Warrior's Blog , Herblore Habitat - Efficient and profitable[hide=Stats and logs].:Adventurer's Log:.[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHappySeeker Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Ignoring evidence is quite cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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