is selling RuneFest codes considered RWT?

[ixfd64]

As we all know, the RuneFest hoods and the golden scythe isn't tradable in-game. However, the scratch-off cards can obviously be given to another person in real life. In fact, I've already seen people trying to "trade" these items.

 

For one thing, this could be considered RWT because the code "exists" in the real world. On the other hand, it becomes useless once the code is redeemed. A couple of days ago, I saw someone trying to sell a golden scythe code (I think) for $500 on the RSOF. A Jagex mod posted in the thread but didn't say anything about it being against the rules. The thread was later locked, and I think the main reason for it was that trust trades aren't allowed on the official forums.

 

So my questions are:

 

1. Is it considered RWT to trade RuneFest codes for RS items?

2. Is it considered RWT to sell RuneFest codes for real money?

 

By the way, I'm not trying to "sell" any RuneFest items. I'm just asking of of curiosity.

[Blutters]

1. No. It's an item for an item.

2. Yes. It's an item for real money...

 

I thought this was straightforward but I suppose others may have differing opinions.

[gago]

Trying to sell Golden scythe "code" is a scam as there are only 25 of the golden scythes in the game and no more can be gotten at the moment.

[Alg]

I thought this was straightforward but I suppose others may have differing opinions.

Indeed. I would say yes to both.

[RU_Insane]

Short answer, yes. Long answer, no. It's real world trading in the sense that the transaction takes place in real-life outside of RuneScape. The problem I find that leads me to say no, is that the item is only generated after the code is redeemed. That means it's Jagex's property (as an in-game item) after the code is redeemed. No actual Jagex property was involved in the transaction itself. Rather, what was traded was a means to generate an in-game item which is consequently Jagex property.

 

Real world trading is defined as a transaction involving already existing in-game items for real-world payment. A code printed on a ticket isn't an in-game item, it's an external means for generating an in-game item. In addition, there's no actual item transfer, since the item is placed with the user who redeemed the code. In short, the item is generated, not transferred.

 

And so I can't see Jagex punishing a player since no actual Jagex property is involved in the transaction. Presumably, the code that generates the item belongs to the player, not Jagex, since he/she bought the RuneFest ticket that came with it. And as you know, once you buy something, it's yours. (In fact this isn't true, I'm just citing this as a general example). So I'd say the person's free to sell that code as they wish. I'm not absolutely certain though, since I'm questioning whether or not Jagex legitimately owns the code (depending on how they market the ticket sales) or if the player in fact owns it. I'd say 80% certainty it's not real-world trading for two reasons:

 

1. No actual Jagex property was transferred in the transaction

2. The player should be free to sell the code as it's their property and not Jagex's considering they bought it

 

The only exception I'm thinking of for #2 is if there were any terms the players agreed to when they bought the ticket which stipulated against reselling the included code for profit.

[RU_Insane]

Its not rwt if Jagex does it ;)

 

Of course not, that's because Jagex is the only one authorized to sell their product. The fact the transaction takes place in real-life isn't the issue. It's who the item legally belongs to that's important.

[Carl]

Its not rwt if Jagex does it ;)

 

Of course not, that's because Jagex is the only one authorized to sell their product. The fact the transaction takes place in real-life isn't the issue. It's who the item legally belongs to that's important.

 

Im obviously selling souvenir tickets which come with a complementary auth code for runefest item. Old event tickets are quite the collectables and I cant help it if an unused auth code comes with it :lol:

 

Much like the people who used to sell jokes on Ebay which just so happened to come with a free RuneScape account. :P

[highlanders]

Meh, code or no code doesn't make any difference. I wouldn't be surprised if some months or years down the road some of these 25 accounts end up being sold on the black market for big money for owning the second rarest item in the game. People are already doing it with accounts that have bunny ears and scythes, just because an item is untradable doesn't make it impossible to sell. It boils down to Jagex being idiots for releasing an item to only 25 people. They should have given the 25 winners actual physical prizes that they could take home, an event in-person calls for physical prizes, they shouldn't mix it with virtual prizes, that's unfair to people who don't have the luck of living nearby, money or the luxury of putting their life on hold to go there.

[spooferfish]

1. No. It's an item for an item.

2. Yes. It's an item for real money...

 

I thought this was straightforward but I suppose others may have differing opinions.

 

Thats what I was thinking.

[Zaaps1]

I'm sure most players would rather complain about not having a golden scythe than actually devoting time and money towards getting one.

[gspbeetle]

It boils down to Jagex being idiots for releasing an item to only 25 people.

 

Second that and pretty much the reason why the Jmod hesitated to label it as "RWT" but "trust trade".

[Blutters]

I'm sure most players would rather complain about not having a golden scythe than actually devoting time and money towards getting one.

I'm willing to occasionally go to Target with spare change and buy a new skin color for about $8.

I'm unwilling to pay someone $500-1500 for a Golden Scythe that I might not even end up actually receiving.

 

Laziness huh

[999134]

I'm sure most players would rather complain about not having a golden scythe than actually devoting time and money towards getting one.

I'm willing to occasionally go to Target with spare change and buy a new skin color for about $8.

I'm unwilling to pay someone $500-1500 for a Golden Scythe that I might not even end up actually receiving.

 

Laziness huh

I might be unwilling to pay 500-1500$ for a golden scythe as well.

But I would happily pay bils for one of the rarest items in the game, and I am sure many others would as well.

These auth codes instantly are worth far more than crackers.

 

Its probably is rwt though so I doubt jagex are going to allow it any time soon <_< .

[Nero]

Lolwtf, these things are being sold for like 200m+. What utter retardedness. The hoods...

 

The scythe codes...man alive.

[Dire_Wolf]

1. Is not RWT but leads to RWT (Codes will then be rare - and people will use real cash instead of game currency for it)

2. Yes, it's RWT.

 

I agree you should be able to sell the codes for real money if you like. AFterall you BOUGHT it.

[Mercifull]

I would say yes. As would trading a prize such as lifetime membership for ingame items or rl money.

[Jadinko]

Pic of the items in game?