jetset516a Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Which do you think is better for the triple charm drop? I average between 150-170 at Waterfiends. Dust Devils don't drop crimsons nearly as often but they're WAY faster to kill... Thoughts? <a href=http://runetrack.com/profile.php?user=Jetset516><img src=http://runetrack.com/sigs/stat/green/3_male/353/Jetset516.png border=0></a> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lose No Hope Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 waterfiends dusties are a waste of your time [hide]unbinding green's kidneys for ltk's heartdo you farm guam like me sir ltk[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Delu Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 With your stats waterfiends would be much better. 2496 total achieved June 30, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPMC Mate Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Dust Devils aren't really good droppers of Crims as much as Waterfiends. Even if they are FASTER to kill, that doesn't mean you will get more Crims/hr. Waterfiends are one of the best Crim droppers in the game. I'd say you could use the triple charm bonus on Wyvern tasks too. Really? Cause as I recall it was you who was the one cussing me at base. Also, re-read what you just said: one 15 second delay (which is an exaggeration to begin with) ruins floor times? You are beyond ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troacctid Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 If you had less than 70 attack (i.e. no access to decent crush weapons), there might maybe be a case for dusties, maybe, I dunno, would need to test it. That's not the case here, though, aye? Waterfiends are gonna be better. Read my blog | Follow me on Twitter | Track my XP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Be sure to do chaos tunnels waterfiends. 150-170 crims in 40 minutes with triple charms works out to about 80/hr without triple, which is really really really low. At your stats, considering your dungeoneering level and assuming no goliaths, you should be getting 120/hr at least simply meleeing, 150/hr with your iron titan in the chaos tunnels. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymous Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Do waterfiends in the Chaos tunnels whilst using turmoil, an iron titan, extreme potions and a saradomin sword or a zamorakian spear (crush mode). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetset516a Posted December 26, 2011 Author Share Posted December 26, 2011 Kewl! Thanks for the replies. I'll try it out tonight. <a href=http://runetrack.com/profile.php?user=Jetset516><img src=http://runetrack.com/sigs/stat/green/3_male/353/Jetset516.png border=0></a> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerfrog Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Piety is better than turmoil due to waterfiends having no attack/strength bonus, but i recommend using curses anyway so you can use soulsplit to stay there longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetset516a Posted December 28, 2011 Author Share Posted December 28, 2011 LOL I must have dome something wrong. I got my a$$ kicked. I lasted about five minutes before I was out of food. I was wearing Karils, and when I had on deflect magic, I got nailed with ranged. When I had deflect missiles, I got pummeled with magic attacks. Turmoil only served to speed up my demise. Yes I used extreme defense and strength and a Zammy spear. I wound up in the ancient cavern and ended with 133 crims. Not bad... <a href=http://runetrack.com/profile.php?user=Jetset516><img src=http://runetrack.com/sigs/stat/green/3_male/353/Jetset516.png border=0></a> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Fray Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 LOL I must have dome something wrong. I got my a$$ kicked. I lasted about five minutes before I was out of food. I was wearing Karils, and when I had on deflect magic, I got nailed with ranged. When I had deflect missiles, I got pummeled with magic attacks. Turmoil only served to speed up my demise. Yes I used extreme defense and strength and a Zammy spear. I wound up in the ancient cavern and ended with 133 crims. Not bad...You are supposed to use soul split the entire time they are aggressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 133 crims is really bad, that's like 65/hr. You should just keep soul split on and kill fiends ASAP. You don't need food. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Delu Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 ideally you should be flashing soul split with range prayer. It's not too hard once you get used to it. 2496 total achieved June 30, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetset516a Posted December 28, 2011 Author Share Posted December 28, 2011 133 crims is really bad, that's like 65/hr. You should just keep soul split on and kill fiends ASAP. You don't need food. I got a late start since I left the chaos tunnels and then went to the cavern. Not sure how much more than an average of 60-70 an hour you think would be realistic. My best was 170 or so but I usually average 150. Granted that may *seem* low but I don't believe for a minute that the average is much higher. I'm sure people have POSTED they do 100+ an hour or something, but it's pretty common knowledge there's bs factored into most people's posted stats. I also tried soul split. with no protection from mage or range my health bar went down faster than I could replenish it with food. No doubt I just need some practice. <a href=http://runetrack.com/profile.php?user=Jetset516><img src=http://runetrack.com/sigs/stat/green/3_male/353/Jetset516.png border=0></a> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerfrog Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 133 crims is really bad, that's like 65/hr. You should just keep soul split on and kill fiends ASAP. You don't need food. I got a late start since I left the chaos tunnels and then went to the cavern. Not sure how much more than an average of 60-70 an hour you think would be realistic. My best was 170 or so but I usually average 150. Granted that may *seem* low but I don't believe for a minute that the average is much higher. I'm sure people have POSTED they do 100+ an hour or something, but it's pretty common knowledge there's bs factored into most people's posted stats. I also tried soul split. with no protection from mage or range my health bar went down faster than I could replenish it with food. No doubt I just need some practice.I get about 140/hour in the ancient caverns... It's not hard to achieve. (Maul extremes void) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 My average was 130/hr and slightly going up starting at ~85 melees with turmoil/extremes/void/sw cape/berserker (i)/fury/dragon boots/maul, I haven't done pure off-task cavern fiends since 90ish melees w/ ovl/turm/void/fcape/maul/dboots/berserker (i)/fury but then I got about 130 as well, maybe another 3/hr extra. Since you are 99 melees with turmoil and extremes, you should be easily able to get 120/hr, if not 130/hr, even with zspear. Should be noted that Karil's may be better offensively if you do not have a maul. My best triple charm trip was over 400 crims in 40 minutes using iron titan + overloads + cmaul on task + max strength gear with Karil's top + bottom. I got quite lucky with crims though (and few blues) but that doesn't change that you are doing something really wrong. Common things:Waiting for a fiend's death animation to finish and looting before attacking the next fiend.Not drinking a new set of boost potions until the previous has worn off entirely.Not using the turmoil prayer at all times.Fighting entirely on auto-retaliate and/or afking. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetset516a Posted December 28, 2011 Author Share Posted December 28, 2011 My best triple charm trip was over 400 crims in 40 minutes using iron titan + overloads + cmaul on task + max strength gear with Karil's top + bottom. I got quite lucky with crims though (and few blues) but that doesn't change that you are doing something really wrong. So you're telling me you killed on average 3-4 waterfiends PER minute? One every 15-20 seconds? <a href=http://runetrack.com/profile.php?user=Jetset516><img src=http://runetrack.com/sigs/stat/green/3_male/353/Jetset516.png border=0></a> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Fray Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Sorry for thread hijacking but with my stats and soul split, can I manage in void? Last time I went I got hit pretty hard in void but managed to hang on, but that was with rapier. I am guessing it will be easier with maul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 You should be able to survive if you don't draw aggro. Void however isn't worth it since you lose helmet scrolls. @ Jetset: Yes I did. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Paul Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 To second what Quyneax said, I was able to get ~250 in 40 mins of familiarisation at 90 melees with ovl/turm/black d'hide/z spear/iron titan. Working on max and completionist capes. 2435/2475 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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