OrAnoS_eVo Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 I have a question should i get 70 prayer or bandos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellac Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Moved to Help and Advice from General Discussions. Thanks to Iglw for the amazing signature! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lose No Hope Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 70 prayer [hide]unbinding green's kidneys for ltk's heartdo you farm guam like me sir ltk[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Fray Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Get the prayer levels. Piety is far better than bandos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 70 prayer is going to increase your dps a lot more than bandos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerfrog Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Prayer. How do you make money though? If it involves using money (such as merching) i'd recommend just saving it up till you can afford turmoil, overloads, bandos... etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bxpprod Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Short answer: piety The long answer involves a long winded skills breakdown etc [bleep] OFF HOW ARE U SO [bleep]ING LUCKY U PIECE OF [bleep]ING SHIT [bleep] [bleep] [wagon] MUNCHER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Paul Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Bandos is one of the last things to get. The def isn't needed and the money would be better spent on a fury, zerker, extremes, turm, claws, etc. Working on max and completionist capes. 2435/2475 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinkhan Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Do claws come before BCP? Something to fill my sig with until I find a replacement.Also check out my blug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Fray Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Do claws come before BCP?I will say yes. I sold my BCP and never missed it, but I can never let go of my claws. If you train slayer at all claws are a must buy just because of the damage boost in Kuradal's dungeon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Paul Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Do claws come before BCP?I will say yes. I sold my BCP and never missed it, but I can never let go of my claws. If you train slayer at all claws are a must buy just because of the damage boost in Kuradal's dungeon. OP is only 69 slayer... but anyway, I made a mistake. BCP should come before claws. Dragon dagger (and korasi's in a few cases) is quite good. Working on max and completionist capes. 2435/2475 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Bcp before claws for slayer but way after claws for bossing. You wouldn't use bcp at Nex, tds, Bandos god wars (unless crashing), glacors etc. which are the good money/effigy/charm bosses. You need claws at Nex/Graar/Tds for max gear (glacors is a bit iffy). Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrAnoS_eVo Posted December 27, 2011 Author Share Posted December 27, 2011 I mainly do green dragons right now while working on 85 dung. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinkhan Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 I don't think claws over DDS beats out BCP over whatever you're currently using (so long as it's not a fighter torso) if you're mainly killing dragons. Something to fill my sig with until I find a replacement.Also check out my blug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrAnoS_eVo Posted December 27, 2011 Author Share Posted December 27, 2011 I don't think claws over DDS beats out BCP over whatever you're currently using (so long as it's not a fighter torso) if you're mainly killing dragons.That's what i usually do for money, but right now I'm focusing on getting 85 dung and doing more quests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Fray Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Bcp before claws for slayer but way after claws for bossing. You wouldn't use bcp at Nex, tds, Bandos god wars (unless crashing), glacors etc. which are the good money/effigy/charm bosses. You need claws at Nex/Graar/Tds for max gear (glacors is a bit iffy).Wouldn't you say that claws especially in Kuradal's dungeon and the effect of the ferocious ring make it a must have for slayer? Especially considering the sheer amount of tasks that can be done in the dungeon. Combine with spec restores and I would put it well ahead of BCP even for slayer. I know this doesn't exactly work for the OP but I still feel claws over BCP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 I've done the math on this before and bcp is still superior to claws unless you have a torso. Tassets are superior as well. Consider that two dds specials instead of one claw special + one rapier hit is very powerful as well. I believe Grimy Bunyip has done the math on that and concluded that dds > claws on tasks below a certain defence. I don't remember the number but it was like 200-300 I believe, which is higher than the defence of for example bloodvelds, abberant spectres, black demons, dark beasts, dagannoth, hellhounds etc. So where bcp is an upgrade over no strength bonus at all (assuming no torso), claws have to compete with other spec weapons. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghjkl Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 I've done the math on this before and bcp is still superior to claws unless you have a torso. Tassets are superior as well. Consider that two dds specials instead of one claw special + one rapier hit is very powerful as well. I believe Grimy Bunyip has done the math on that and concluded that dds > claws on tasks below a certain defence. I don't remember the number but it was like 200-300 I believe, which is higher than the defence of for example bloodvelds, abberant spectres, black demons, dark beasts, dagannoth, hellhounds etc. So where bcp is an upgrade over no strength bonus at all (assuming no torso), claws have to compete with other spec weapons.that test assumed that slayer helm affects specials even though it did notthat test also assumed that dragon claw hits are distributed uniformly but that is not truegrimy's conclusions about dds and dclaws are inaccurate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troacctid Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 that test assumed that slayer helm affects specials even though it did notthat test also assumed that dragon claw hits are distributed uniformly but that is not truegrimy's conclusions about dds and dclaws are inaccurateThat's not entirely true. For reference, original source here. Read my blog | Follow me on Twitter | Track my XP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghjkl Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 read the rest of the thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 The thread shows that dds > claws off task, and rapier > dds on task, with claws being only a minute increase anyway. Pretty sure Korasi's sword still competes & is affected by slayer helm. I don't think you can hit 840s (base hit of 560) without fsh boost. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerfrog Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 The thread shows that dds > claws off task, and rapier > dds on task, with claws being only a minute increase anyway. Pretty sure Korasi's sword still competes & is affected by slayer helm. I don't think you can hit 840s (base hit of 560) without fsh boost.I've maxed (orange splat) with 515 korasi no spec in max strength-1 void deflector. (-1 was b gloves instead of goliath) So if you've hit 560s on task, slayer helm works. Anyway for the thread, i'd recommend claws over bcp. Because if you don't have enough money for both, you need to make some money. Now days, slayer is not a good way to do that. Bossing however, is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 This screenshots proves you can hit 841 in Kuradal's, translating to a base max higher than what should be possible in that gear without fsh effect. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinkhan Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 I'm led to believe that the max hit splats are still not 100% accurate. Something to fill my sig with until I find a replacement.Also check out my blug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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