The Back Room

[Nexaduro]

3.1 If you are ever unsure whether or not to post, ask yourself these questions:

Does it Improve on the Silence?

Is what you saying True?

If it isn't True, is it at least Kind?

:rolleyes:

 

What is that image anyways, Mather?

[archimage_a]

It was actually about Mather's picture...started to respond and got 'There is no reason for me to say anything'

[Vixion]

/troll

haha jk jk

[Nexaduro]

Hi again Vix!

 

Hey, do you play any multiplayer games?

[The_Mather1]

3.1 If you are ever unsure whether or not to post, ask yourself these questions:

Does it Improve on the Silence?

Is what you saying True?

If it isn't True, is it at least Kind?

:rolleyes:

 

What is that image anyways, Mather?

It is improving on the silence and kind, since it is funny amd it sais still swesome, implying that fencing is awesome and thus that you are awesome.

[archimage_a]

Archimage has been kicked out of the computer room (Boo) and is now operating out of the Cat Room (...), using a chest of drawers as the base with the laptop in one of the drawers(Prevents overheating and I don't like Laptops).

Of course Archimage will have the last laugh as the Computer room is now stripped of its Flat Monitor, USB Mouse and Keyboard, and Headphones.

In its place is a PS/2 Mouse and Keyboard(With way to many functions), a cathodic ray tube Monitor and no speakers.

Also, Archimage currently has an obession with the word 'Practicable'.

 

 

 

Nah, it just didn't do it for me...Posting what I am doing and thinking just isn't fun.

[Iconic]

Hex, quit acting like you're a valuable part of this subforum when it could be argued that you are a huge part of its death.

How am I a part of its death. Death comes from people who are saying "I'm not playing another game until X"

1. Your initial joining during the first Hegemony pissed everyone off, you subsequently acted like a child and were one of the main reasons for the formation of the NWO which lead to the demise of that game.

2. In Sere's Hegemony, which actually showed promise, you acted like a jerk to Ross and when we were pissed off and kicked you out the admins were called, marking the beginning of the admin interference in the tavern.

3. You start garbage games that nobody wants to play and continuously complain about every god damn thing related to the activity level of this subforum.

[archi]

4. You have quit three or four times and then comes back whenever the Tavern picks up.

5. You continually waste time by making comments which bare no relation to the post you are replying to.

6. You enter games, tell people how they to play and argue, persistantly, with everyone who disagrees...including the mod.

[/archi]

1)NWO was formed before I joined.

2)That was Archi's hegemony, I never played Sere's Hegemony but all countrys are free to display jingoism if they feel free, the fact that I was kicked out by Archi was utterly ridiculous (lets not argue about this, we've argued for pages and pages and never really reached and agreement, it ultimately comes to the idea that there are people that dont like me and thought I should be banned or people who regardless of whether they liked me or not or regardless of whether I did something wrong they think that Archi made huge libertys as the game moderator.

3)All my games were better then the games you've started.... wait a minute! A game that a small couple of people play is better then none at all.

Thats a good thing.

4)If theres no activity theres no point on being active, its not even.... its not even a problem.

5) I don't understand, please post an example and point out the things that I am specifically doing wrong.

6) If the games [cabbage] I'm just trying to make it better as a whole for everyone or playable for me, I can't bear stupid systems.

 

Quit acting like you're some sort of authority here. We wanted those game stickied, and as far as I can tell you are the only one who didn't.

You can't always have what you want.

 

Archi, too many rules and guidelines. They front page is filler (lovely people)

[The_Mather1]

Lol, I just managed to create an infinite sound feedback loop by turning on listening to mic and shutting the computer halfways, it went through a series of tones continously echoing into another before eventually reverting back into the original tone. It also makes an epic yet eerie sound after opening it when I type, though I can't keep it on, it souds like a horror movie on full volume.

[Iconic]

You know what's funny, as Edelweiss I was great but when revealed as Hex everyone is unpleasent to me.

(did Wisp tell everyone?)

[The_Mather1]

Actually, Sere told me of his suspicion via [wierd game we all played with 2d graphics] when you joined as him. But it's not the fact that you're Hex that makes people unpleasant, it's the way you behave. You act as if you speak on behalf of us when all others have the opposite opinion, you act as if you know everything about our games when you do not and you keep hiding between alts and expect us to keep accepting the [cabbage] you're feeding us about how you're not respected.

Here are some guidelines: Respect us first and earn your damn respect!

 

This burst of rage has been provided by an annoyed and tired Mather.

[archimage_a]

1)NWO was formed before I joined.

2)That was Archi's hegemony, I never played Sere's Hegemony but all countrys are free to display jingoism if they feel free, the fact that I was kicked out by Archi was utterly ridiculous (lets not argue about this, we've argued for pages and pages and never really reached and agreement, it ultimately comes to the idea that there are people that dont like me and thought I should be banned or people who regardless of whether they liked me or not or regardless of whether I did something wrong they think that Archi made huge libertys as the game moderator.

3)All my games were better then the games you've started.... wait a minute! A game that a small couple of people play is better then none at all.

Thats a good thing.

4)If theres no activity theres no point on being active, its not even.... its not even a problem.

5) I don't understand, please post an example and point out the things that I am specifically doing wrong.

6) If the games [cabbage] I'm just trying to make it better as a whole for everyone or playable for me, I can't bear stupid systems.

 

1. I will let Rocco answer that.

2.

7.1 It is the Moderator's Responsibility to run the game in a manner that is coherant and user friendly. If they forgo this responsibility then players may choose not play the game any longer.

 

7.2 It is the Player's Responsibility to play the game is a manner that is coherant and sensitive to the Moderator. If they forgo this responsibility then the Moderator may choose to give the player penalties or may even decide to give up the game altogether.

 

3. In your own words:

I also fear that however hard I try games won't ever be liked, Blitzkrieg and my Dungeoneering wasn't really as full as it was when Retech started up his or was a perfectly reasonable game that but I am nearly a hundred percent sure that people didn't join because of who I am.

 

4. http://forum.tip.it/topic/277722-official-quit/

I am not annoyed that you left and came back...I am annoyed that you made a thread stating that you quit and then you came back...

 

5.

For reference:

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03[19:35] * Edelweiss ([email protected]) has joined #space8

03[19:35] * Edelweiss ([email protected]) has left #space8

03[19:35] * Granzi ([email protected]) has joined #space8

[19:35] <Granzi> Hey, anyoen remember me?

[19:36] <Granzi> [bleep]

03[19:36] * Granzi is now known as Edelweiss

[19:36] <Edelweiss> lol.

[19:37] <Edelweiss> Don't you remember

[19:37] <Edelweiss> In hegemony

[19:38] <Edelweiss> Sorry if this is advertising but if anyone wishes to play Dungeoneering

[19:38] <Edelweiss> for twenty three minutes

[19:38] <Edelweiss> http://forum.tip.it/topic/275133-dungeoneering/page__st__360 I'm hosting it

[19:39] <Edelweiss> It has, create a bioform

[19:39] <Edelweiss> and be on your way.

[19:39] <Edelweiss> The body.

[19:40] <Edelweiss> Ah, ok

[19:41] <Edelweiss> The game looks AMAZING

[19:42] <Edelweiss> FSH is a hormone used to inhibit the production of oestregen.

[19:44] <Edelweiss> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHa

[19:44] <Edelweiss> HAHAHAHAHAHAHa

[19:44] <Edelweiss> HAHAHA..... Its not that funny

[19:45] <Edelweiss> Neither is your joke about the chair.

[19:45] <Edelweiss> Theros, do you wish to join the Dungeoneering game, your a member already

[19:45] <Edelweiss> and you are a vampire at present

[19:46] <Edelweiss> who's floating a bit.

02[19:46] * Edelweiss ([email protected]) Quit (Quit: Tip.It Java User)

03[19:57] * Unknown40390 ([email protected]) has joined #space8

[19:59] <Unknown40390> Is this still not on?

[19:59] <Unknown40390> If so does anybody want to have a quick go at retrying my old version of dungeoneering?

[19:59] <Unknown40390> If not I'll run with to.

[19:59] <Unknown40390> *two

[20:00] <Unknown40390> Yes but I'm asking anyway, captain obviousl.

[20:02] <Unknown40390> hAS THIS STARTED?

[20:02] <Unknown40390> Has this started?

[20:02] <Unknown40390> Theres so much off topic discussion I can't tell who's meant to be talking.

03[20:03] * Unknown40390 is now known as edelweiss

[20:04] <edelweiss> I need to register first

[20:04] <edelweiss> I'm away, I'll read it after

03[20:05] * edelweiss is now known as Edelweiss|AFK

[20:13] <Edelweiss|AFK> Just an idea, how about using /me commands when posting an act, that way it'll be coloured and easier

[20:13] <Edelweiss|AFK> to see

06[20:13] * Edelweiss|AFK this is what happens when you use the /me command

[20:13] <Edelweiss|AFK> Cooms?

[20:13] <Edelweiss|AFK> Comms?

06[20:14] * Edelweiss|AFK communicates with ss kirby "yadda yadda yadda"

[20:15] <Edelweiss|AFK> poor system, me should be used for everything.

[20:16] <Edelweiss|AFK> I can never join, I've been watching and its to cofusing.

[20:17] <Edelweiss|AFK> At least try.

02[20:18] * Edelweiss|AFK ([email protected]) Quit (Quit: Tip.It Java User)

03[20:30] * Edelweiss ([email protected]) has joined #space8

03[20:31] * Edelweiss is now known as Unknown22399

[20:31] <Unknown22399> if this is what the tavern has amounted to I don't want to be a part of it. I came back for a couple of seconds and all I see is chaos, ununderstandable chaos.

[20:31] <Unknown22399> So, I'm actually quitting this time

[20:31] <Unknown22399> bye.

03[20:32] * notetaker sets mode: +b *!*@tipit-A3D4987A.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com

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http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12603519/Space/Logs/%23space8.Tip.It.log

 

Advertising, Spamming and Quiting should, in my humble opinion, qualify for a ban.

Also:

6) If the games [cabbage] I'm just trying to make it better as a whole for everyone or playable for me, I can't bear stupid systems.

 

Quit acting like you're some sort of authority here. We wanted those game stickied, and as far as I can tell you are the only one who didn't.

You can't always have what you want.

You claim that you are free to post constantly that you should have what you want, but other people are not allowed to have what they want.

 

6. Mather sums this up best:

You act as if you speak on behalf of us when all others have the opposite opinion, you act as if you know everything about our games when you do not and you keep hiding between alts and expect us to keep accepting the [cabbage] you're feeding us about how you're not respected.

Here are some guidelines: Respect us first and earn your damn respect!

[Seraphi]

5) I don't understand, please post an example and point out the things that I am specifically doing wrong.

6) If the games [cabbage] I'm just trying to make it better as a whole for everyone or playable for me, I can't bear stupid systems.

Sorry, just pitching in to address these two points in particular.

 

People have told you time and time again why you may not be the most likeable person in the world. In fact, when you did the /archi thing up there, you made it abundantly clear that you have been listening, so why not try and do something about it?

 

And opinions are wonderful things, aren't they. We don't come into your clubhouse and then demand to be accomodated, so if everyone is perfectly fine with a system which you happen to dislike, don't start yelling at people to fix things which, in their eyes, are not broken in the first place. The fact that you would call a game (which somebody probably put a lot of time and effort into) [cabbage] in the first place goes a long way into explaining why people don't respond well to your "arguments", however valid they may be.

 

Also, I tend to see it differently. When you rejoined as Edelweiss, people were okay with you because something was different. We almost guessed from the start that you were Hex, but we ignored it because we thought it'd finally clicked that you can be a little aggrevating at times, so you legitimately tried to change your ways. Clearly we were wrong, because a few weeks down the line, and all those wonderful qualities reared their ugly heads like a bile spitting hydra. You are casting yourself as the wronged innocent once again, and shutting your eyes to the faults. I've seen you do the same thing countless times before, and I'm sure you'll do it many times again in the future. I suppose that's only natural, and I'm sure I've done it before as well, but all I'm asking you to do is look at things from a different perspective for a while.

 

I know it's hard to change. I used to be a bit of an ass pushing my own beliefs and opinions on everyone around me, but I saw that it was doing me no favours and tried to be more accepting of those around me. I think it helped, I feel a lot more calm most of the time than I used to. If this were me two years ago I'd probably have joined this argument four pages earlier and resorted to making all caps lock posts by now. Basically, what it comes down to is this: If I actually saw you taking on board things people said, I would probably respect you a whole lot more.

 

I try not to hold a grudge against anyone, I really do, but I find it very difficult with you, and for that I can only apologise.

[Earth]

Let me add my two cents when i'm not tired and pissy due to lack of sleep.

Hex, i actually think you're friggen hilarious, but things need to come down a bit. You don't seem to recognize the need to actually hear/read both sides of the argument before going all troll. If you got banned, then you got banned. See what you did wrong. Don't do it again. I really think it's as simple as that.

[Seraphi]

Way to invoke Godwin's law.

 

I'm not even sure you're allowed to post that.

[Iconic]

I think it makes perfect sense Rocco.

 

You said:

 

• 
   
  
• I do nothing bad game related but am not a personality you like.
  
• You attack me.
  
• Other people attack me.
  
• Alliance fails because of people attacking me.
  
• I get blamed.
  

 

Thats like saying that I get stabbed and its my fault for the person who stabbed me getting arrested.

[Seraphi]

you're doing it again. You are unable to see why people may not like you. Try to look at it from Rocco's perspective here.

[Iconic]

I was intending on making a passive agressive apology but this is the one thing that I am 100% sure that I am right with. I know I have wronged before and I'd say there is a chance of me being wrong then but this is definately an argument favouring me.

[Retech]

Okay, first of all, Hegemony is a game. You can attack whoever you want. You can also blame whoever you want, but that doesn't really mean anything unless people agree with you.

 

Applause on the passive aggressive apology though. They're my favorite. :)

[Iconic]

Ah, how terribly droll to see you poor, sad wretches blithering on about how "sad" and "pathetic" I must be to be posting on this forum.

[Iconic]

• I do nothing bad game related but am not a personality you like.
  
• The alliance attacks me
  
• Alliance gets stronger
  
• Alliance gets too strong, wrecks the game
  
• I get blamed.
  

[Iconic]

I am writing this letter in simple English in order that everyone can read and understand my words. Let's review the errors in Mr. Rocco / /'s statements in order. First, I, for one, am growing weary—and wary—of Rocco's longiloquent demands. Rocco's comments are often appallingly wrongheaded, sometimes bleeding-heart, frequently off-point, and occasionally otiose. Nevertheless, they do tell us something important about Rocco. They tell us that Rocco intends to fuel the fires of hatred.

 

Rocco's apparent nature is due to his constantly fuelled freudian complex, he feels he has to take out his anger on the weakest of the group, as an example Hextriplet and Iconic, two people who have made no attempt to hurt him in any way, infact go out to help him; they see him as a potential friend and allie and would wish to patch relations with him.

 

Given the destructiveness of Rocco's repressive exegeses, I propose that we implement a long-range survival plan. For starters, this plan should acknowledge that ageism is a plague upon us all, a pox that will likely not be erased in the lifetime of any reader of this letter. To Rocco, however, it's merely a convenient mechanism for shaming the poor into blaming themselves for losing the birth lottery and bullying the young an inexperienced. In the simplest of terms, he has written more than his fair share of lengthy, over-worded, pseudo-intellectual tripe. In all such instances Rocco conveniently overlooks the fact that he claims that an open party with unlimited access to alcohol can't possibly outgrow the host's ability to manage the crowd. That story is full of more holes than a hole factory.

 

Here's some news for people who are surprised by sunrise: Each day, I see the world becoming more silly as a determined Rocco carries out his vexatious plans. He claims to be supportive of my plan to pursue virtue and knowledge. Don't trust him, though; he's a wolf in sheep's clothing. Before you know it, he'll initiate a reign of nasty, impetuous terror. Not only that, but I no longer believe that trends like family breakdown, promiscuity, and violence are random events. Not only are they explicitly glorified and promoted by Rocco's despicable, insipid warnings, but his cold, analytical approach to materialism doesn't take into account the human element. In particular, those who have been hurt by materialism know that Rocco's tirades may have been conceived in idealism, but they quickly degenerated into balmy gnosticism. While this country still has far to go before people are truly judged on the content of their character, Rocco's brainless plaints are my biggest pet peeve. In this case, one cannot help but recall that he is careless with data, makes all sorts of causal interpretations of things without any real justification, has a way of combining disparate ideas that don't seem to hang together, seems to show a sort of pride in his own biases, gets into all sorts of morally questionable speculation, and then makes no effort to test out his speculations—and that's just the short list!

 

Rocco, you are welcome to get off my back this time and stay off. Be forewarned: The baneful nature of his half-measures is not just a rumor. It is a fact to which I can testify. Anyone who follows today's debates on vandalism and, by happenstance, is also familiar with Rocco's addlepated endeavors is struck by that old truism: Rocco serves up his truculent form of irreligionism as intellectual fast food for his conceited thralls. Get that straight, please. Any other thinking is blame-shoving or responsibility-dodging. Furthermore, Rocco's compeers get a thrill out of protesting. They have no idea what causes they're fighting for or against. For them, going down to the local protest, carrying a sign, hanging out with Rocco, and meeting some other stroppy adulterers is merely a social event. They're not even aware that Rocco's shenanigans are merely a stalking horse. They mask his secret intention to cripple his foes politically, economically, socially, morally, and psychologically.

 

While the question of who is right and who is wrong in this case is an interesting one, it is also something that I cannot and will not comment on, and not just because whenever I turn around I see Rocco bowdlerizing all unfavorable descriptions of his ballyhoos. To deny such a truth would be to deny the evidence of our own senses. In this land which has befriended repulsive rotters, he has conspired, plotted, undermined, prostituted, and corrupted, and—hiding to this hour behind the braver screen of unsophisticated, vicious swindlers—dares to contrive and scheme the death of every principle that has protected him.

 

Rocco's crafty tractates are intended to rot out the minds of all freedom-loving, free-thinking people. Once that's accomplished, he can replace such people with compliant, Rocco-controlled, and, above all, obedient robots who would never think to rebuild our communities. These automata will undermine the basic values of work, responsibility, and family in the blink of an eye. If you want a better opportunity to get a job, raise a family in a safe neighborhood, have a better chance at a good education, and lower the taxes on the money you earn, then I ask that you help me expose his malversation. He plays ducks and drakes with a native battery of idioms that prescribes such egregious collocations of vocables as the basic "put up with" for "tolerate" or "put at a loss" for "bewilder". I explained the reason for that just a moment ago. If you don't mind, though, I'll go ahead and explain it again. To begin with, it's our responsibility to embrace the cause of self-determination and recognize the leading role and clearer understanding of those people for whom the quintessential struggle is an encompassing liberation movement against the totality of simplism. That's the first step in trying to look into the future and consider what will happen if we let him teach the next generation how to hate—and whom to hate—and it's the only way to seek some structure in which the cacophony introduced by his perorations might be systematized, reconciled, and made rational.

 

When Rocco hears anyone say that he is a mythmaker, an illusion builder, or to put it less politely, a trickster, his answer is to promote mediocrity over merit. That's similar to taking a few drunken swings at a beehive: it just makes me want even more to begin the invigorating, rejuvenating process of building a true community of spirit and purpose based on mutual respect and caring. If the past is any indication of the future, he will once again attempt to create a new fundamentalism based not on religion but on an orthodoxy of officialism. Rocco shouldn't transform fear and its inculcation into the preeminent force ruling human existence. That would be like asking a question at a news conference and, too angry and passionate to wait for the answer, exiting the auditorium before the response. Both of those actions poke and pry into every facet of our lives.

 

Sure, Rocco talks the talk but does he walk the walk? This can be answered most easily by stating that Rocco has frequently been spotted making nicey-nice with hidebound, benighted segregationists. Is this because he needs their help to woo over obtuse oafs by using tactics such as scapegoating, reductionist and simplistic solutions, demagoguery, and a conspiracy theory of history? Apparently, even know-it-all Rocco doesn't know the answer to that one. It wouldn't matter much if he did, given that he's often accused of gagging the innocent accused from protesting tribalism-motivated prosecutions. His cheerleaders usually respond I'm sorry for everything I've ever done Rocco with a message along the lines of, "So what? At least Rocco isn't conditioning the public—or, more precisely, brainwashing the public—into believing that he is able to abrogate the natural order of effects flowing from causes." I suppose there's an argument to be made for that, but aren't we forgetting that Rocco's jokes have earned him opprobrium, suspicion, resentment, and hatred?

 

Whether or not Rocco should overthrow the government and eliminate the money system ought to be a simple question, far beyond the realm of debate. However, he has allied himself with the devil and serves him faithfully. There are several logical contradictions in Rocco's position on this matter. For example, he is right about one thing, namely that fear is what motivates us. Fear of what it means when the most obdurate skivers I've ever seen fuel the censorship-and-intolerance crowd. Fear of what it says about our society when we teach our children that the world is crying out to labor beneath his firm but benevolent heel. And fear of feckless conniving-types like Rocco who rip apart causes that others feel strongly about. Can you believe that he once said that odious, picayunish lackwits should be given absolute authority to leave a generation of people planted in the mud of an illiterate world to begin a new life in the shadows of animalism? I have a collection of similar pearls from Rocco, but rather than recite them all I'll simply point out that it has been said that the things Rocco wants to do are unfair, if not illegal. I believe that to be true. I also believe that he believes that exclusivism is the key to world peace. Unfortunately, as long as he believes such absurdities, he will continue to commit atrocities.

 

There are many roads leading to the de I was completely wrong Rocco feat of Rocco's plans to put the prisoners in charge of running the prison. I obviously think that all of these roads must eventually pass through the same set of gates: the ability to halt the adulation heaped upon cuckoo present-day robber barons. Rocco has been pilfering the national treasure. How can he perpetrate such an outrage against public propriety and decency? The only clear answer to emerge from the conflicting, contradictory stances that he and his backers take is that feudalism is something to be prevented, not promoted. I don't know what bothers me most about him. Is it his specious arguments, his illogical reasoning, his obscurantist claims, his unreasonable speculations, or any of the many forms of pseudoscholarship we see in his actions? In any case, the most believable explanation for many of the destructive trends in politics, economics, morality, and other key areas over the past two years is that a secretive, incredibly uncontrollable, well-organized movement has been striving relentlessly to strip the world of conversation, friendship, and love. In the presence of high heaven and before the civilized world I therefore assert that when I first became aware of Rocco's covert invasion into our thought processes, all I could think was how if we let Rocco reduce us to acute penury, all we'll have to look forward to in the future is a public realm devoid of culture and a narrow and routinized professional life untouched by the highest creations of civilization. In closing, please remember that my ultimate goal is to give direction to a universal human development of culture, ethics, and morality. If I advance, follow me. If I stop, urge me on. If I retreat, kill me.

[Vixion]

why yes, yes i do nex :D

[Jehosaphat]

HOLY CARP WALL OF TEXT

You did this with the ragespeech generator Dusty posted a while back, didn't you?

[Earth]

For the love of [bleep]ing god man, don't post a wall of text [bleep]ing about someone in really overcomplicated words. it DOES NOT make you look smart, just makes you look like an [wagon].

[Vixion]

earth! :D hullo buddeh(: