loreal Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 I'm not much of a lore person but I've always wondered if there was an ordered list of the most powerful beings in Runescape. I couldn't find one so I decided to make one. Obviously there's a lot of guesswork and opinions involved in this. In addition, not only are we missing a ton of information but there are some contradictions to resolve as well. Most personalities don't have a combat level so there's only background lore and comparisons with other personalities to go on. Tier 1 Mage Gower??- In one of the God letters back from RSC there was a mention of a Mage Gower. He was never mentioned again so it's not canonical and just a throaway joke. Obviously since Andrew Gower created the game he would be omnipotent. Elder Gods - presumably the most powerful beings in existence as they created the plane that was to become Gielinor. The only known (and perhaps their leader) Elder God is Jas. Tier 2 Guthix- Created Gielinor and is currently the most powerful being. Saradomin/Zamorak- Equally matched but diametrically opposite to each other Armados/Bandos- There's no proof that a god's power is correlated with how many followers they have but that seems to be the case. Armadyl and Bandos have greatly reduced followers compared to Saradomin and Zamorak. Zaros- Ruled over most of Runescape at some point but currently banished. Would probably be the most powerful being (barring Guthix?) if he were to return. Tier 3 Kerapac/Dragonkin - I think these are the most powerful beings in Runescape that directly interfere with anything. Usually the gods let their followers do their bidding. Kerapac created the QBD and three Dragonkin mucked up Lucien pretty badly. Robert the Strong?? - I really don't like this personality and I don't really know where to put him. He supposedly killed off most of the Dragonkin but is supposed to be 100% human. He's only mentioned a few times so it seems Jagex attributed that feat to him and then retconned how powerful the Dragonkin actually are. Wyrms- Said to be ancestors to modern day dragons. Said to be able to level cities by themselves. Not enough information Seren/Marimbo/Desert Pantheon/other minor gods- They don't really fit into the main storyline so it's hard to see how powerful they are but seeing as they seem to only exist regionally, they probably are not as powerful as some of the other personalities who are much older and seemingly operate on a more global scale. Lucien- The most powerful of the Mahjarrat. Derives power from the Stone of Jas Mahjarrat- Presumably Azzanadra, Sliske and Zemouregal are the foremost among them. Lord Drakan- Served Zaros and then Zamorak, so theoretically on the same level as the Mahjarrat. Tier 4 Kuradel??- Strongest human and supposedly killed hundreds of glacors during ROTM. Queen Black Dragon - 2100 Nex- 1001 Har-Aken- 800 Nomad- 699 Corporeal Beast- 785 Jad- 702 Pest Queen- 599 Thoughts? Any notable omissions? Anything clearly in the wrong order? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decebal Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 You're ranking the wyrms a bit high imo. While they were known to level entire cities, so was Kr'il Tsutaroth, which would be ranked under T4. Also, the QBD is the progenitor of the wyrms (which were the first dragons), which were known to be weak, therefore they probably have a lower combat level than you think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IridiumBunny Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 Pretty cool topic :) Would be interesting to see when it is accurately completed. Unfortunately there is a lot of rumour/minor mentions of people who could be powerful but we will most likely never see and are hence hard to gauge - maybe give them their own section. For some reason I want to say Kuradel's mother, I heard a mention of her being more powerful than Kuradel and Duradel, somewhere but can't quite recall. I do know that many speculate her to be a 'final' slayer master. Just my opinion, but combat level might not be a good gauge for 'power' in the sense that this topic is looking for. For example, Dagannoth Supreme (from his examine) is said to have wiped out the Bukalla race (whoever they were), but he is only 303. Another example is the low combat level of several Mahjarrat (Lucien (lvl-14), General Khazard (250) and those in ROTM cutscenes (can't recall but I remember being surprised at how low it was)). Another opinion (feel free to ignore me), Sunfreet might qualify for tier 4, although I am not aware of the lore surrounding him so... Gl with this anyway, look forward to seeing it develop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambler Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 So where does our character come in this? Assuming Quest Point Cape and max combat for things not limited to: defeating lucien, defeating the barrows brothers, Pest Queen, Gwd bosses, including Nex. Also QBD (kind of) ^^My blog of EoC PvM, lols and Therapy.^^My livestream- Currently: Offline :(Offical Harpy Therapist of the Mad[hide=Lewtations]Barrows drops: Dharok's helm x2, Guthan's helm, Ahrim's top, Hood and skirt, Torag's hammers, Karils skirt, Karil's top, Torag's helm, Verac's skirt, Verac's Flail, Dharok's Platebody.Dag kings drops: Lost count! :wall:4k+ Glacors, 7 Ragefires, 4 Steadfasts, 4 Glaivens, 400+ shards![/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randox Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 My understanding has always been that Zaros was a cut above the other gods, in a tier of his own between saradomin, armadyl, bados, and zamorak, but bellow the elder gods. This is evidenced by the combined forces/power of saradomin, armadyl and I think bandos as well only being able to force Zaros into a stale mate. Zamorak is still scared silly of Zaros, so its safe to assume that without the staff zaros can probably beat him up without a lot of trouble. Guthix probably shares the tier with Zaros, and might be even more powerful (hard to say because the two have never been in conflict with each other), since Guthix was able to bring an end to the god wars without even raising an army (granted, he did it by threatening to just destroy the world, and might not have the actual power to take the other gods on directly). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerker_Jane Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 I miss those god letters, I remember waiting ages for the next one that never came....sigh.. 99 farm easy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uade Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 Very interesting topic...I'm going to be checking back on this thread. RuneCrafting addict Divination addict Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RU_Insane Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 Very interesting topic! :) Considering a maxed/near-maxed player can take out the Tier 4 monsters with great effort, I would put a maxed character around Tier 4 (maximum potential). If not in serious combat, then maybe Tier 6-7 (if we made a list to go that low). RIP RU_Insane. August 3rd, 2005 - November 11th, 2012. My Stats on Old School RuneScape: Reform Customer SupportCheck Out My Threads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blutters Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 Just my opinion, but combat level might not be a good gauge for 'power' in the sense that this topic is looking for.I fully agree with this. Our ability to defeat them or a relatively low combat level are not good indicators of their standing overall. Oftentimes we're able to beat extremely powerful beings in the interest of gameplay that we otherwise probably shouldn't have had a chance against. For example, Yk'Lagor the Thunderous and the Sea Slug Queen are both killed with pillars...I would only rank using combat level when it's necessary such as if two beings seem nearly equal. I look forward to seeing this thread expanded. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NukeMarine Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 Very interesting topic! Considering a maxed/near-maxed player can take out the Tier 4 monsters with great effort, I would put a maxed character around Tier 4 (maximum potential). If not in serious combat, then maybe Tier 6-7 (if we made a list to go that low).An NPC with the capabilities (and reasonable reactions) of a player would be insanely tough to beat. On top of that, in time Jagex will likely raise the skill cap to 120 for all skills. Combined with weapons and armor at that level could place players into the Tier 3 level of power. Good thread by the way. Learn how to Learn Japanese on your own - Nukemarine's Suggested Guide for Beginners in JapaneseStop Forgetting Stuff for College and Life - Anki - a program which makes remembering things easyReach Elite Fitness - CrossFit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@Dan3HitU Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 I was always under the impression that of the gods, Zaros was the strongest, despite Guthix been asleep, he won't fight anyway, he's simply keeps the "balance" in order. [-- DYNAMIC SIGNATURES FOR RUNESCAPE 3 & OLDSCHOOL 2007 RUNESCAPE --] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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