Barihawk Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 Well, I've discussed it with some of you as well as various friends from in-game...has anyone noticed that the Rapier is almost useless because of the oddity of its stats? Now, it is confirmed that the Rapier is practically a clone of the rune scimitar...+7 stab, +45 slash or something along those lines... However, the attack styles menu shows that 3/4 of the attack styles are stab attacks?! In fact, any decent fencer knows that a rapier should be used for stabbing as its primary attack. This cripples the weapon, considering the only way to maximize your damage is to use the aggressive slash option. I have sent a bug report to Cambridge, so who knows? This could be fixed down the line, or nothing will come of it. My heart is broken by the terrible loss I have sustained in my old friends and companions and my poor soldiers. Believe me, nothing except a battle lost can be half so melancholy as a battle won. -Sir Arthur Wellesley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_K Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 Good point, I found it odd that the rapier had better slash than stab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maveritchell Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 It may in fact be glitched, but keep in mind, logic is a fickle thing in a world where grown men hit monkeys with axes to get stronger and pick cabbage all day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barihawk Posted February 8, 2006 Author Share Posted February 8, 2006 It may in fact be glitched, but keep in mind, logic is a fickle thing in a world where grown men hit monkeys with axes to get stronger and pick cabbage all day. *Primitive tribesman kill monkeys for practice, and illegal immigrants flock to the US to pick cabbage all day* Logic, wha? :P I'd really like it if it was fixed...would be deadly to rangers. My heart is broken by the terrible loss I have sustained in my old friends and companions and my poor soldiers. Believe me, nothing except a battle lost can be half so melancholy as a battle won. -Sir Arthur Wellesley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caughtjoo Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 It may in fact be glitched, but keep in mind, logic is a fickle thing in a world where grown men hit monkeys with axes to get stronger and pick cabbage all day. *Primitive tribesman kill monkeys for practice, and illegal immigrants flock to the US to pick cabbage all day* Logic, wha? :P I'd really like it if it was fixed...would be deadly to rangers. :lol: See alot of that in Texas :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jessy87 Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 Well, I've discussed it with some of you as well as various friends from in-game...has anyone noticed that the Rapier is almost useless because of the oddity of its stats? Now, it is confirmed that the Rapier is practically a clone of the rune scimitar...+7 stab, +45 slash or something along those lines... However, the attack styles menu shows that 3/4 of the attack styles are stab attacks?! In fact, any decent fencer knows that a rapier should be used for stabbing as its primary attack. This cripples the weapon, considering the only way to maximize your damage is to use the aggressive slash option. I have sent a bug report to Cambridge, so who knows? This could be fixed down the line, or nothing will come of it. lol i dont even think 50% of americans know what fencing is. im american and i know what it is but i got no clue what a rapier is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varda Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 lol i dont even think 50% of americans know what fencing is. im american and i know what it is but i got no clue what a rapier is Rapier Edit: German Rapier This piece dates from 1550-1560.The pommel is large and spherical. The quillons and guard are round in cross-section. The ricasso on the blade is stout and ribbed. The blade itself is diamond in cross-section with fluting. German or Swiss Rapier This sword dates from the late 16th Century. The pommel is diamond shaped and chiselled with lions' heads. The original grip is flutted wood. The guard itself is also chiselled and is symetrical front to back. The blade is a hexogonal and is double edged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Bogs Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 I noticed that, too. Thought it was kind of weird, but I wasn't too sure of what a rapier actually exactly was, with the language barrier and all. And seeing as the animation is the same as for your average sword I thought nothing of it :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeBeaun Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 Yeah, and the battleaxe has two blades yet you only ever use one..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
venedlor Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 Sue_Kitsu That is B-E-A-U-T-F-U-L-L! where did you get it? the dmaskis steel is practly perfict. Very nice. Venedlor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varda Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 Sue_Kitsu That is B-E-A-U-T-F-U-L-L! where did you get it? the dmaskis steel is practly perfict. Very nice. Venedlor :D Quick google search on "Rapier." Third picture or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bflat0 Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 I know exactly what you mean... I fought and killed two tree spirits with a rapier last night and probably would have fought better with a butter-knife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chessmastuh Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 Well, I've discussed it with some of you as well as various friends from in-game...has anyone noticed that the Rapier is almost useless because of the oddity of its stats? Now, it is confirmed that the Rapier is practically a clone of the rune scimitar...+7 stab, +45 slash or something along those lines... However, the attack styles menu shows that 3/4 of the attack styles are stab attacks?! In fact, any decent fencer knows that a rapier should be used for stabbing as its primary attack. This cripples the weapon, considering the only way to maximize your damage is to use the aggressive slash option. I have sent a bug report to Cambridge, so who knows? This could be fixed down the line, or nothing will come of it. lol i dont even think 50% of americans know what fencing is. im american and i know what it is but i got no clue what a rapier is I do, thanks to my good ol' friend Mr. Fire Emblem o'er here sitting in his comfortable silver chair called nintendo DS. And yeah, it's wierd. Maybe Jagex doesn't know what a rapier really is? Stunning signature created by the one and only My Boggy. Just like Columbus he gets murderous on purpose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2g2003 Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 Yeah, you can definitly tell by the real pic supplied that the weapon is made for stabbing. And to say all Americans dunno what fencing is... is pretty foolish. I'm sure we've all herd of it a time or two and have a good idea what it is. Just because we aren't snobs doesn't mean we dunno what it is (sorry, had to go there). R.I.P Shiva Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anonimu Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 Well, I've discussed it with some of you as well as various friends from in-game...has anyone noticed that the Rapier is almost useless because of the oddity of its stats? Now, it is confirmed that the Rapier is practically a clone of the rune scimitar...+7 stab, +45 slash or something along those lines... However, the attack styles menu shows that 3/4 of the attack styles are stab attacks?! In fact, any decent fencer knows that a rapier should be used for stabbing as its primary attack. This cripples the weapon, considering the only way to maximize your damage is to use the aggressive slash option. I have sent a bug report to Cambridge, so who knows? This could be fixed down the line, or nothing will come of it. You mean RuneScape, right?... Losers...Are you blind or ignoring me on purpose?Even though I sometimes side with religious people in some debates, I no longer consider myself religious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barihawk Posted February 9, 2006 Author Share Posted February 9, 2006 Considering Jagex is located in Cambridge, you can assume I was using a play on words. My heart is broken by the terrible loss I have sustained in my old friends and companions and my poor soldiers. Believe me, nothing except a battle lost can be half so melancholy as a battle won. -Sir Arthur Wellesley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_Kak Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 i thought a rapier was a bad man that should be put in jail for a long time currently smithing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indizle Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 i thought a rapier was a bad man that should be put in jail for a long time A rapist is someone who commits the crime of rape. A rapier is a long, thin sword, used mainly for dueling, particularily stab attacks, although it could be used to slash, just not as effectively as other blades due to its slender blade. In addition to being used for fencing, during the age of the Conquistadores, it was oft used by noblemen/gentlemen as a symbol of power and to show that they were on the "higher path"; it was considered a very graceful weapon, and served to be a part of upperclass fashion. It was usually made of steel as it required its streghth to effectively stab with out bending too much, but if the steel had to much carbon, the blade would become brittle. Thus, the swordsmith had to maintain a balance of carbon in the steel so that the blade was strong, yet supple enough to bend slightly and spring back to its original shape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bodder Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 Hah, anyone post pic of it on rs? Off-topic: I have a fencing friend, and I fool around with him sometimes.... Getting slashed hurts alot more than stabbed especially witht he button on the end. But thats my 150 cents... THanks, Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xixxo Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 actually after doing fencing myself in real life A fencer has to swing there sword like you would any other sword with a backhand motion this knocks away attacks.. and is actually the most technical part of the fight the stabbing move is the killer move.. this doesnt do any damage really but it does win you the point but the swinging smash as u may call it is the best bit :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinkydave Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 i always new runescape was kinda messed up in weopons. another example besides this rapier being slashed based is that the scimitar in the game looks like a falshion not a scimmitar. any one who plays dnd would know that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xixxo Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 i always new runescape was kinda messed up in weopons. another example besides this rapier being slashed based is that the scimitar in the game looks like a falshion not a scimmitar. any one who plays dnd would know that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rendon_smug Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 I am a fencer, and an american, and from what I understand, the Dueling Rapier is what the Epee was based on. I am a saber fighter so I only know the basics, like that all points are scored from a poke, about 750 grams (the amount of force required to peirce skn with a rapier). So yes, I would say it should be stabbing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smavey Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 In fact, any decent fencer knows that a rapier should be used for stabbing as its primary attack. Yeah i'm a fencer, and here is how they work. Foils and Epees are used as thrusting attacks because they have the sensors in the tips, and Sabres are used for slashing attacks. But i rapier, although it is not used at all in fencing, i think it's a mix of a sabre and a foil, a weapon that is mostly thrust and a little amount of slash, so yah i agree I'm not sure. Does anybody know what a rapier actually is? I only foil, epee and sabre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varda Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 In fact, any decent fencer knows that a rapier should be used for stabbing as its primary attack. Yeah i'm a fencer, and here is how they work. Foils and Epees are used as thrusting attacks because they have the sensors in the tips, and Sabres are used for slashing attacks. But i rapier, although it is not used at all in fencing, i think it's a mix of a sabre and a foil, a weapon that is mostly thrust and a little amount of slash, so yah i agree I'm not sure. Does anybody know what a rapier actually is? I only foil, epee and sabre. Rapier Edit: German Rapier This piece dates from 1550-1560.The pommel is large and spherical. The quillons and guard are round in cross-section. The ricasso on the blade is stout and ribbed. The blade itself is diamond in cross-section with fluting. German or Swiss Rapier This sword dates from the late 16th Century. The pommel is diamond shaped and chiselled with lions' heads. The original grip is flutted wood. The guard itself is also chiselled and is symetrical front to back. The blade is a hexogonal and is double edged. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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